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Subject: Times have changed since student-athletes could take a couple of weeks off for riding trains and getting reporters drunk. San Francisco was so impressed with Gael football, St. Mary's dropped its program. Think Fordam will set aside an Ivy long enough to play an intersectional game? Author: Life, Liberty, and Giuliani [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:27:05 11/26/04 Fri In reply to: JoltinJoe 's message, "This article from today's Contra Costa Times about St. Mary's football during the 1920s and '30s may be of interest. You'll have to regsiter to read the whole thing," on 15:30:41 11/26/04 Fri [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date They can still do it, its called going to St. John's. (NT) Picture Phone 01:51:19 11/27/04 Sat I had advocated here for a long time that we should renew the St. Mary's rivalry. A trip to Moraga every other year would have resulted in the team getting some attention in other media markets, and would have been a recruiting tool too. Unfortunately St. Mary's disbanded its program. I still think an intersectional rival should be considered, but with St. Mary's gone, one does not leap out at me. All of our great intersectional rivals from the past are still playing big-time football. (NT) JoltinJoe 07:25:28 11/27/04 Sat or they've dropped football (NYU, USF, Detroit). It might be time to consider new rivals, but the vibe I get on this board is that potential I-AA opponents are either below Fordham's academic standards, too close to "D3", or some other fatal flaw. Good luck. (NT) -- Life, Liberty, and Giuliani, 18:15:48 11/27/04 Sat What is the status of the Santa Clara program? (NT) -- Joe S. ' 58, 22:43:39 11/27/04 Sat Gone Since 1992 with no hope of return under current administration...boosters have website that looks much like hoyasaxa.com (NT) -- letthemplay.com, 23:06:25 11/27/04 Sat Our conference does include our two most played rivals, Holy Cross and Georgetown, and hopefully both the Crusaders and the Hoyas turn their programs around soon. Meaningful and competitive games against HC and G-Town would be something great. I like the idea of the three teams, each representing a Jesuit college, playing each year for the "Loyola Cup," akin to the Commissioner's Cup series played by the I-A service academies. (NT) -- JoltinJoe, 07:10:19 11/28/04 Sun At their current funding levels, don't expect Holy Cross or Georgetown to be successful soon. Both programs are underfunded. I'd like to see Fordham, Holy Cross and Georgetown go full scholarship 1-AA and compete with Nova, William and Mary, Richmond, Delaware, etc. The scholarships would ensure a level of quality that will excite alums and students and give us a chance to go deep into the playoffs. (NT) -- Rambacker, 10:41:49 11/28/04 Sun Holy Cross Football Is Not Underfunded (more...) -- DFW HOYA, 17:01:16 11/28/04 Sun Is your suggestion that the rest of us feel sorry for or chip in for poor (often arrogant and condecending) Georgetown? (NT) -- As you sow. . ., 17:11:23 11/28/04 Sun Not At All... -- DFW HOYA, 17:19:16 11/28/04 Sun not a flame -- curious, 17:26:14 11/28/04 Sun Response -- DFW HOYA, 18:54:12 11/28/04 Sun The average per male athlete aid amount for Holy Cross and Georgetown is amazingly low. How the hell can you compete. Full schollies in football at the 1-AA level would solve the problem for Georgetown and Holy Cross. Georgetown, Holy Cross and Fordham should all make the move. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:05:07 11/28/04 Sun I guess they have other priorities. Go figure. (NT) -- Ramadama, 08:47:54 11/29/04 Mon It's one thing to fund a program adequately(they don't). It's another to embarass the alums and students at an institution. We did that for 15 years and are still paying the price. If you're going to do it, do it right. If you're not, get out of the game. (NT) -- Rambacker, 09:33:57 11/29/04 Mon Again, they must have other priorities. If they aren't going to do this, they should go play in the MAAC or NEC. I hardly think they are embarrassing students or alumni because they don't want to dump the requisite money into a program they don't care that much about. (NT) -- Ramadama, 14:13:59 11/29/04 Mon Re: Great story...my father often talks about the Ram-Gael games from when he was a kid - the lineups alone merited a whole section of the Daily News, Herald, etc. It was one of the two biggest annual FB games in NYC at that time; the other was ND-Army. It is a tradition like this that makes the PL fortunate to have Fordham as a Football member. (NT) -- Go...'gate, 17:44:37 11/29/04 Mon Wow! What a losing mentality. You're fine with a program that just wallows along each year and causes alums and students to develop a negative attitude about the athletic program. This is the mentality that has kept Fordham mired in mediocrity(and worse) for many decades. (NT) -- Rambacker, 18:41:11 11/29/04 Mon who are you, Rambacker that you know so much on both Boards? Are you even a Fordham graduate and if you are what decade of graduation (NT) -- not impressed, 19:24:00 11/29/04 Mon The question is who are you? Never seen your moniker before. Establish a bit of credibilty and then get back to us. Perhaps you are not from Fordham? I think so. (NT) -- Rambacker, 20:42:57 11/29/04 Mon You dodged the question. You would be surprised to learn who I am, Rambacker. Someone whom you call "Sir" and, yes, one of our own. Now, what about you? How does one person have so many opinions about so many things without being either the smartest man in the world or a blowhard? I am sure you will claim the former but many of us have concluded you are the latter. (NT) -- Still not impressed --aka Sir to you, 18:55:09 11/30/04 Tue You have no credibility whatsoever because you have presented no arguments against my statements. Show some cajones and intelligence by stating your positions in an articulate and persuasive fashion. Otherwise, you're just another useless poster who is probably someone that's been trashed here before and is posting under another name. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:57:57 11/30/04 Tue The word you are looking for is "cojones", not "cajones". The latter is plural for "drawer" or "chest". (NT) -- JóDete93, 09:41:31 12/01/04 Wed I stand corrected. Guess I was spelling it phonetically. Have to assume he already has drawers and/or a chest. (NT) -- Rambacker, 12:38:50 12/01/04 Wed Rambacker , your postings are better to come home to than a martini and a puppy. You are so thin skinned. You say that I “have presented no arguments against [your] position”. Scroll up, genius. I merely asked who you were, what decade did you graduate. You seem to be so knowledgeable. You have many opinions, some of which with which I agree. Maybe you should be the next AD . Let’s play a game, Rambacker, something like Twenty Questions. I’ll start. Are you the basketball coach with the walkie talkie who embarrassed Fordham? Your turn (NT) -- not impressed, 18:31:55 12/01/04 Wed Better than a martini and a puppy? OK, I give. That'll do it on this string. And by the way, have another martini. It'll do you good. (NT) -- Rambacker, 22:57:50 12/01/04 Wed I got your identity on the first guess! Now you are quitting. You are no fun, Rambacker. Good luck tonight. (NT) -- especially not impressed, 11:30:47 12/02/04 Thu Once you recover from the Martinis, find another moniker. The others you've used are more creative. (NT) -- Rambacker, 17:08:21 12/02/04 Thu Good, we are playing again. Your turn. Who am I? (NT) -- a little more impressed, 18:30:20 12/02/04 Thu Couldn't care less and play time is over. (NT) -- Rambacker, 23:12:01 12/02/04 Thu