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Date Posted: 21:24:06 08/08/05 Mon
Author: TastingTheBlood
Subject: Which must come first?
In reply to: Eppy 's message, "Correct Me If I Am Wrong (I'm sure you will if I am or not), But...." on 11:47:21 08/08/05 Mon

"it seems so me that the Constitution was written assuming that most people believed in or held to some natural law."

Which brings up a good question. Do people need to accept natural law in order for the constitution to work? Or do people need to accept the constitution in order for natural law to work?

My main point was that only after making marriage a legal issue, did the issue of GAY marriage ever arise. We were wrong in legalizing marriage. That is where we are standing right now. THere are people that want to fix that wrong by wronging AGAIN and allowing gay marriage to be legal as well. Two wrongs don't make a right. Like I said earlier, we spend too much time trying to find answers, when all we have to do is eliminate the question.

The church has come out in support of a ban on gay marriage. I'm not trying to "lean unto my own understanding" here, but what if the reason for us banning gay marriage is not simply because gay marriage is immoral? There are several things at play here. Realistically, our choices are to either ban it or accept it into the mainstream. It cannot be allowed to be accepted! That would spell disaster for a society. Also consider what I mentioned above. Legalized marriage is wrong, so maybe in a strange, mysterious way, God is protecting gays from legal marriage. It was wrong to legalize marriage, and it is wrong to legalize gay marriage. Two wrongs don't make a right! ( however, following the constitution gives us plenty of rights. )

I shall also bring up something from my own life... I don't mind if the people at my work do drugs. I couldn't care less what they do to themselves. Well, i DO care... but for them, experiencing the horrible things drugs do is the only way they can come to realize that there is a better way. You don't know peace until you've had suffering. But anyways, I don't mind if they do it, so long as I don't have to see it, smell it, or get into trouble for it. In other words, they should NOT bring up to me that they are doing drugs. It should be kept quiet. Only by keeping gay marriage and abortion quiet can we accomplish our REAL goal... reducing the number of gay marriages and abortions as much as possible.

So the both of you were correct in your posts.

I am NOT in favor of a constitutional amendment defining marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. That is as redundant as Hitler coming back to life to tell everyone that he doesn't care for jewish people. Marriage has nothing to do with the constitution and an amendment involving marriage would mean nothing.

The reasons I'm in favor of removing controversial issues from legal status.....

For starters, if abortion is banned, people will stop fighting it. People will give up their picketing and petitioning, etc... clinics and counselors out there with hopes of talking people OUT of having abortions will suddenly have no need to exist.

How would an abortion ban be enforced? The only way for it to be effective ( as far as I have been able to understand ) would be to crack down on it hard. How does government usually crack down on things? Well, lets see... we have the patriot act, national ID cards, international law, licensing, etc, etc, etc... I can just see it now... the patriot acts being extened to abortion and having to register every pregnancy that your wife has.

Of course, if they are made 'legal' and accepted into the mainstream, our wonderful public education system will be quick to put it in text books and teach how tolerance and acceptance of these things must be accomplished for everyone to live in world peace. This, of course, would plague the society in which it occured.

We must also realize that not everyone who has an abortion or who has homosexual feelings are maliciously trying to destroy our culture.

There are plenty of families out there who come to the conclusion that, for them, an abortion would be best. Whether they are wrong or right is none of our business because they have seriously considered it and come to a conclusion.

Many homosexuals become that way because of traumatic events in their past. A girl who was sexually violated as a child by men in her family may get a bad picture of men in her mind. A boy who was continually teased in grammar school may decide to change himself in several ways... Some are just so engulfed with sin that they seriously canNOT help their feelings.

I guess I'm about done for now...

TTB

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