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" SIMMA (SIR) Meeting Date Change -- Kurt (April 4th 5PM), 07:57:35 04/02/09 Thu (NoHost/12.153.25.242)

We will hold the regular monthly meeting on Saturday April 4th at 5PM for the SIR 1st practice night. If we are rained out on the 4th, the meeting will be held on the 11th.

Hope to see you all there!

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" Sponsorship $$$'s -- Tammy Beam - Will Rogers Raceway, 13:42:27 03/13/09 Fri (adsl-70-234-184-74.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net/70.234.184.74)

I have been trying to get sponsorship $$$'s from my city. They have asked me several questions that I could use some help with. Can anyone help me?

1. How much money does a race team spend on an average 2-day race weekend?

2. Does anyone know of any cities/towns who have sponsored their local race track? If so how much and under what circumstances.

Any help will be appreciated. My email is tamarabeam@sbcglobal.net my # is 918-636-1353

Thank you
Tammy Beam

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" Fred Pate -- W. Pat McGrath, 08:52:23 01/09/09 Fri (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

Pearlie Caudill call to tell me that Fred Pate has lost his battle with canser. Most of you will remember Fred and Becky for the number of years they supported the NMMA, both on the local level and national.

Carol and I would like to send our Thoughts and Prayers to Becky and the family.

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" Tom Corcoran Sr. -- Dave Clements, 15:20:29 10/15/08 Wed (pool-71-98-70-49.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net/71.98.70.49)

Pam & I lost a very good friend yesterday. Tom Corcoran Sr. passed away Tuesday afternoon. We wanted to let those of you who knew him (which I think just about everybody has heard of Corky. We just heard the viewing is Thursday from 4-8 & the service will be Friday at 11:00 at Gundrum Funeral Home here in Logansport, Ind. Our thoughts & prayers go out to the whole family.
Dave Clements

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[> Re: Tom Corcoran Sr. -- Judy & JD Webb, 19:44:15 10/30/08 Thu (75-175-26-233.ptld.qwest.net/75.175.26.233)

I remember the first time I met Tommy, years ago. It was at Camden for the Region 2 race I think...1990?. We didn't know that many people in Indiana at the time and he just took us in :) Treated us like one of the family. I always looked forward to racing in Indiana cause I knew we would get to talk to Tommy. He was a character. We both learned alot about racing from him.

He will be missed.

Judy & JD Webb

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" Tom Corcoran Sr. -- Dwayne, 13:02:01 10/14/08 Tue (dialup-4.224.135.68.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net/4.224.135.68)

Earlier last week, Tom was diagnosed with Acute Leukemia. Today, Tom lost his battle. Tom was the father of Dennis, Ed, and Tommy Corcoran. Grandfather to Steve, Brock, Conner, Tommy, Sheldon, Kaitlin Corcoran. Also Uncle to Dave Culp, great Uncle to myself. Have not heard of any funeral arrangements yet.

Posted By Blane Culp on another board 10/14/08

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" Thanks -- Kiela Martin #44 (happy), 18:12:07 08/31/08 Sun (tuscola-dialup-48.netcare-il.com/12.40.154.50)

I would like to thank al the workers and staff for helping me with my car when i wrecked last night. Thanks for helping me out seeing if i was ok. I'm fine cars fixable and i will c all of you nextsaturday in my uniform.
It was a hard hit im a lil sore but its ok. So i just wanted to thank every body very much for your help...

Thank you,
Kiela

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" Wally Pinkley -- W. Pat McGrath, 09:57:08 08/21/08 Thu (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

Wally Pinkley passed away last we at home in Mt. Home, Ar. with his family around him. Wally worked hard promoting the NMMA and had many friends from Californa to North Carolina. The NMMA family sends our prayer to the family.

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" where is Chuck? -- ps, 18:42:18 08/18/08 Mon (c-98-214-226-32.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.214.226.32)

where is Chuck? what is going on????????????????

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" BAMMA Meeting Tuesday July 22nd -- Kurt, 06:41:44 07/16/08 Wed (NoHost/12.153.25.242)

The Bluegrass Area Modified Midgets will be holding a meeting on Tuesday, July 22nd at the Ponderosa in Draffenville, KY at 7:30PM. All Members and anyone wishing to join are encouraged to attend.

For more information please email schmidtracing@bellsouth.net

Kurt

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" Miami Co. Speedway -- Dwayne, 07:36:43 07/01/08 Tue (dialup-4.252.234.77.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net/4.252.234.77)

BIG BANG WEEKEND!

NO ENTRY FEES!!!!!!!!

July 4th and 5th we will be running a 2 day points race. Each class will pay it's regular payout. After the Saturday race we will total the points for the weekend. Top racers in each class will earn BONUS CASH!!! If a class has an average of 20 or more cars the top 10 drivers get the bonus. If the average is 15 cars the top 7 earn the bonus and with an average of 10 cars the top 5 will get the extra bucks. Bonus money will be the equivalent of feature money. If a driver wins both features as well as the points chase they will earn three 1st place feature payouts for the weekend!!!

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" July 4th $600.00 to Win 600 Outlaw Non Wing Shoot Out -- Jimmy Kemp, 20:13:57 06/29/08 Sun (24-171-75-66.dhcp.mtvr.il.charter.com/24.171.75.66)

After being rained out three weeks in a row the Purse has increased for the 600 Outlaw Non Wing Shoot Out. Friday July 4th we will pay $600.00 to win increasing the purse to $1,740.00. Lets all hope that we can finally get the event ran. Once again we plan to have non wing driver introductions and have the drivers sign a Wayne Co. Speedway tee shirt to throw up into the grandstands. Hope to see everyone there to show Kevin at All-Star Flooring how much we appreciate his support and patience with all the rain outs. Things were looking very good Friday, the track was really taking shape, hamburgers cooking and around 6:00pm the sky turned dark and the rains opened up raining out the show.

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" $500.00 to Win 600 Outlaw Non Wing Shoot Out -- Jimmy Kemp, 20:12:04 06/09/08 Mon (75-129-229-24.dhcp.mtvr.il.charter.com/75.129.229.24)

$500.00 to Win 600 Outlaw Non Wing Shoot Out, Friday June 13th, at the Wayne Co. Speedway, Wayne City, IL. Guaranteed $1,640 Purse paying back 20 places
Presented by:
All-Star Flooring
2601 Veterans Memorial Drive
Mt. Vernon, IL. 618-241-9478.

All-Star Flooring will have a limited number of Free General Admission Passes available. Stop by and see Kevin for the passes and for all of your flooring needs.

All other classes will be running under regular payout.

The club has taken track prep back over and had a very tacky three groove track last Friday, come out and enjoy a evening of fun and good racing. We will be doing driver introductions for the Non Wing Feature and giving drivers a Wayne Co. Speedway Tee Shirt to Sign and throw up into the grandstands.

Gates Open 5pm
Drivers Meeting 7p
Hotlaps 7:15p
Pill Draw Ends 7:30p
Racing at 8p

Friday June 20th Rain Date.

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Thank-You -- Joyce Miller, 08:40:00 05/25/08 Sun (cache-dtc-ae13.proxy.aol.com/205.188.117.17)

I would like to express my appreciation to Miami County Speedway for making the Denny Miller Memorial race special.
The warm welcomes, flowers and the plaque was so much appreciated. Again THANK-YOU for remembering Denny.

Joyce & Amy Miller

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" Thank You!! -- Amanda Day, 08:07:27 05/25/08 Sun (client-67-58-225-14.consolidated.net/67.58.225.14)

I would like to thank all the good people at Coles County for making sure my husband Paul Day was o.k. last night May.24 after his horrible flip. I would also like to thank the dad of the yellow 38 car that ran in the multi class last night for picking me up out of the rocks that I slid into,and for letting me cry on his shoulder. It's not everyday that someone does a nice thing for you,but the way I feel we should all do that for each other at the race track!!!!! We had a great night,of course not my racer,but the workers did a great job!!!!!!

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" Restrictor Plates/Washers -- Rocky Watson, 08:14:28 05/20/08 Tue (NoHost/146.130.125.36)

We here at Garden City Airport Raceway are looking for restrictor plates/washers we need them for r6's and kawasaki 600's www.airportraceway.com

rock

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[> Re: Restrictor Plates/Washers -- Joe Smiley, 18:46:52 05/21/08 Wed (c-68-53-22-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.22.163)

>Rocky try contacting Mary Ellen Harris.She should be able
to help you.
Thanks Joe Smiley

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" Denny Miller Memorial -- Dwayne, 06:58:44 05/15/08 Thu (dialup-4.252.234.83.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net/4.252.234.83)

In September 2007 auto racing lost one of its ambassador's,Denny Miller.
Denny began his racing career in the late 70's in Micro Midgets at what is now US24 Speedway. It was a small asphalt club owned track at which Denny served many positions including club president. In 1985 Denny along with a group of others took on the task of building a dirt race track for Micros in Peru In. called Circus City Speedway(now Miami County Speedway) Denny was also an excellent machinist and fabricator as he built his own car for himself and many others. He also designed and built a small rack and pinion steering used on the Micros and Junior Dragsters. In the mid 90's Denny's racing took a step up as he began building his own Full Midgets and developing a Subaru engine package for the midgets. Denny continued to race and be a friend to the racing world until he was taken from us.

On Saturday May 24th Miami County Speedway will hold the 1st annual Denny Miller Memorial to celebrate Denny's life.

www.miamicountyspeedway.com

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" Nonwings -- mike foreman, 21:58:55 05/12/08 Mon (mhc234.mhc.uiuc.edu/128.174.16.234)

How many Nonwings normally run at wayne co.?

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" Jessie Kiler passing -- Chuck Hamblin, 14:52:11 04/25/08 Fri (adsl-69-105-66-99.dsl.frsn02.pacbell.net/69.105.66.99)

This message is to inform all you older NMMA members that Jessie Kiler passed away this past Saturday at the age of 92...
Jessie was born January 24, 1916 in San Benardino Co.,Ca. and passed away in Visalia, Ca. April 19, 2008.
Jessie and her husband Frank were very involved in the Micro racing from the early 1960's till the middle of the 90's. Jessie could always be found in the scoring tower, while Frank a NMMA Hall of Famer & passed National President would be in the pits working on his race car (s)for Joan or Russell and later his granddaughter. Frank passed away in March of 2006.
Their children Joan & Russell are both in Visalia.

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[> Re: Jessie Kiler passing -- Pat McGrath, 07:57:29 04/29/08 Tue (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

Carol and I send our thoughts and prayers to Joan and Russell and their families.

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[> Re: Jessie Kiler passing -- Joe Smiley, 14:44:02 05/04/08 Sun (c-68-53-22-163.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.22.163)

>Joan mine and LaRaes thoughts and prayers are with you and your family

Joe and LaRae Smiley

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[> Re: Jessie Kiler passing -- Wally Pinkley, 10:35:07 05/29/08 Thu (cpe-24-166-9-93.indy.res.rr.com/24.166.9.93)

>This message is to inform all you older NMMA members
>that Jessie Kiler passed away this past Saturday at
>the age of 92...
>Jessie was born January 24, 1916 in San Benardino
>Co.,Ca. and passed away in Visalia, Ca. April 19, 2008.
>Jessie and her husband Frank were very involved in the
>Micro racing from the early 1960's till the middle of
>the 90's. Jessie could always be found in the scoring
>tower, while Frank a NMMA Hall of Famer & passed
>National President would be in the pits working on his
>race car (s)for Joan or Russell and later his
>granddaughter. Frank passed away in March of 2006.
>Their children Joan & Russell are both in Visalia.

Having done all or most of my racing in California. You could not help but know Frank and Jessie. Being out of the link in Arkansas for 12 years, I was informed of Franks death during this past winter when I talked to Paul Sanford. Now I am a month late finding out about Jessie. I will alway remember her smile and Franks laugh. I wish to pass my wishes to Russ and Joan, Both of which I banged wheels with.

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" Message content -- Chuck Kidwell, 08:42:23 04/15/08 Tue (adsl-69-208-136-233.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net/69.208.136.233)

In the past there have been messages printed on this message board that have contained material relating to the actions and character of people and businesses related to our sport. This Message Board is not for attacking personal behavior or that of businesses that deal with us. With all due respect this type of message will not be posted on this board.This board is for participants to ask questions about rules, upcoming events, decisions made at meetings held by tracks and clubs and give positive critism to the Organization. We have had experiences in the past that have been very detrimental to the well being of the sport and have served no useful purpose. If you feel you need to post such messages please use a Message Board that allows that type of post. The person or business that has unacceptable character will soon get the results by word of mouth.

Chuck Kidwell
President
600 MicroSprint USA

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" LINKS -- Donna, 13:12:23 04/10/08 Thu (adsl-69-208-136-233.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net/69.208.136.233)

I don't know if it is just me but I find it very-very difficult to read the "links" on this web page. For some reason Red on Purple does not stand out, I know as you scroll down they turn yellow but could we just have a font color that is easier for us to see......please

Donna

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" BAMMA Meeting -- Kurt, 08:54:54 04/01/08 Tue (NoHost/12.153.25.242)

The Bluegrass Area Modified Midgets Association has discussed the possibility of disbandment due to lack of membership and interest. We will be holding a meeting on Tuesday April 22nd, 7 PM at Ponderosa in Draffenville, KY. If it is decided that the club should close permanently the current membership will decide where to donate the clubs assets. Any past member may attend and give suggestions on where the donations will go, but it will be the current membership that makes the final decision. All are welcome to attend and help with the decision process

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[> Re: BAMMA Meeting -- Kurt (Please Don't forget!), 08:41:57 04/18/08 Fri (NoHost/12.153.25.242)

>The Bluegrass Area Modified Midgets Association has
>discussed the possibility of disbandment due to lack
>of membership and interest. We will be holding a
>meeting on Tuesday April 22nd, 7 PM at Ponderosa in
>Draffenville, KY. If it is decided that the club
>should close permanently the current membership will
>decide where to donate the clubs assets. Any past
>member may attend and give suggestions on where the
>donations will go, but it will be the current
>membership that makes the final decision. All are
>welcome to attend and help with the decision process

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" New Car Spec's -- Webmasters Office, 01:20:01 03/28/08 Fri (12-202-180-144.client.mchsi.com/12.202.180.144)

Left hand side of front page: Be sure to check out new car specs: look for:

Be Sure to Check Out The Car Specs

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Membership Application on line -- Webmasters Office, 16:03:37 03/27/08 Thu (12-202-180-144.client.mchsi.com/12.202.180.144)

Left hand side of page is new application to:600 Micro Sprints.
Membership Application
Front Page
Second Page

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" 600 Micro Sprint USA News? -- Lynn Grabill, 11:27:47 03/24/08 Mon (72-161-233-121.dyn.centurytel.net/72.161.233.121)

What is the latest news from 600 Micro Sprint USA?

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" Doris (Dory) Taylor -- Ben Taylor, 16:11:54 03/14/08 Fri (12-207-30-251.client.mchsi.com/12.207.30.251)

The wife of long-time racer, Jimmy Taylor, died today (March 14) after battling cancer. Dory Taylor was very active scoring races back in the 60s and 70s. Dory is the grandmother of Kris Knox, who also races and aunt to Joe Taylor. Anyone wanting to send condolences can obtain Jimmy's address by e-mailing Joe Taylor at taylorhome@mchsi.com.

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[> Re: Doris (Dory) Taylor -- Lanny Harvey, 19:20:59 03/20/08 Thu (d043.v53.ksa.wbsnet.net/204.120.195.43)

Would someone email me Jimmy's email address. Known him for lots of years. Thanks.

>The wife of long-time racer, Jimmy Taylor, died today
>(March 14) after battling cancer. Dory Taylor was very
>active scoring races back in the 60s and 70s. Dory is
>the grandmother of Kris Knox, who also races and aunt
>to Joe Taylor. Anyone wanting to send condolences can
>obtain Jimmy's address by e-mailing Joe Taylor at
>taylorhome@mchsi.com.

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" 2008 Race4life -- Wade Huisman, 10:22:32 03/12/08 Wed (74-46-108-4.dr01.ftdd.ia.frontiernet.net/74.46.108.4)

Lastest Race 4 Life News-

The Race4life Foundation is proud to announce partnership with Sweet Springs Motorsports complex to benefit the MRMF on May23-25 www.michaelrossmemorialfoundation.com . The volunteers at SSMC have taken on the task of hosting the 3rd annual Race4life, as it gears up to be the largest in its brief history. Race4life 2008 will have several additions to insure a bigger & better family experience for all. With more prizes, classes, and opportunity to give back, we are looking forward to the holiday weekend of May 23-25 for 3 nights of racing. Too often, we take for granted the health and abilities God has granted us. We hope you and your race family can join us in a weekend of racing and helping others who are less fortunate.

Event information-

Information regarding, everything from Hotel and camping, entry, rules and the Kids helping kids program can be found directly above in the download section. You can also visit www.sweetspringsraceway.com for additional information. All questions and comments are welcome.
2008 and the additions in programs below would not be possible without the help of our sponsors. We sincerely wish to thank all contributors big and small. We ask that you briefly take the time to note the sponsors that have taken the financial burden to make this race possible. Please patronize these companies and thank them for their involvement in an event that brings a positive spin on our sport.

Race 4 Life classes information-

Pay Scales for the classes listed below are available in download section

Ultrashield Singles class - Miller welders Jr's class - Concept Chassis 600's Restricters - Awsome Racewear 600's Stocked Winged

- American Compressed Steel 619 Open Winged - Keizer wheels 600's Stocked Nonwing -

Please Click Here to view rules in the following Race 4 Life Classes

Race 4 Life Auction-

Sponsored prizes and auction items: More to come over the next month
2-New Bell Helmets
2-New Impact Helmets
1-One Custom Awesome Racewear Fire suit
1-Set of Indy pipes
1-Set of Keizer Racing wheels-distributed individually
4-Miller Welding products, Plasma, Wire feed- to be distributed individually
1-Universal Rear Axel APP
10-Misc Ultrashield Race products, Tear off�s & more.-to be distributed individually
1-Set of Ultrashield Race belts
1-Misc Hoosier tires to be distributed individually
4-Pro Shocks- to be distributed individually
20-Misc items donated by the Micheal Ross Memorial Foundation.
1-Guhl injection Certificate
1-Foz Radiator by Speedparts
3-Sprocket Specialties certificates
3-Saldana Racing products Partial gift certificut
?-Misc Ringers Gloves items.
1-Bulter Built Custom Race seat

Kids Helping Kids Program-

The first exciting announcement is the advancement to the Kids helping Kids program. This year more rewards & prizes will be handed out to the youngsters that decide to take it on themselves to make a difference. This pram was developed to help our young drivers realize that what is done off the track influences performance on the track. This year we will be reserving 4 spots in the qualifying trophy dash for the 4 top fund raising youth. This will insure them at minimum a spot in the first 4 rows of the A main on the final night. All participants will receive prizes ranging from Drivers gloves to Brand new helmets. Additional information can be found above in the download section. Start your fundraising today.

Post Race Party Information-

Secondly we are planning a post race party on the Saturday 24th following the race program. Plenty of free food and spirits will be available. At this time we will also have a live auction to distribute prizes provided by our sponsors. Don�t miss out, as we make some lucky bidders some amazing deals on items totaling $8,000 in retail value. Again, please note & thank all of our sponsors for their donations. Anyone wanting to make additional donations, please contact The Race4life foundation listed below. Every gift, large or small makes a difference.

Series Bonus Progams-

Our final addition to the 08 program will be our Series bonus programs. With the additional support from traveling series & national races we have implemented bonus cash for racers supporting these series & tracks. We want to thank all the tracks, drivers & series that support the ideology of this race & have shown their support in the past. We apologize to those racers who�s series have decided not to support our venue; they have made the decision for you not to be able to attend. We look forward to a growing relationship with all our supporters.
Series Bonus/Bounty Opportunities *All bonus money will be paid by Race4life foundation-Checks will be mailed.

Miniakota - *$1,000 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Powri - $250 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Badlands Mini sprints - $1000 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Jayhuskers Racing Inc. - $500 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.
Indiana Microsprint series - $250 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.
Sow6 -*$500 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Microspints of Florida -*$500 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Brazo Mini Sprints -*$500 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
NewYork M.Midgets -$1000 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is paid.
Austrailian Microsprint club - $2500 to win any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.
Port City Raceway/NW nationals - $1000 to repeat any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.
Colorado 600 Micro sprints - $1000 to repeat any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.
Arizona 600 Mini sprints - $500 to repeat any class. If double classes are won by single series bonus is split.

Any driver can run any class as long as they follow the rules set by SSMC.

Contact Information

The Race4life foundation
4041 390th street
Hospers Ia 51238
1-712-441-5390

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" Major Flaw in rules -- Shaun Brandt, 08:03:00 03/04/08 Tue (NoHost/199.173.226.229)

There is a major flaw in your rules! The problem, as I see it, is this: You only have weight limits based on bore and stroke (and wing size). That is good in theory, but you have overlooked a MAJOR detail! If I go out and mill my head, degree my cam, add a timing advancer and a power commander box, I have spent more money on my motor and I'm still at 600cc and therefor can weigh 750. Now the budget racer is at a disadvantage, which is exactly what you're trying to avoid! Just my thoughts, please correct me if I'm wrong!

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[> Re: Major Flaw in rules -- Butch Frantz, 19:25:15 03/04/08 Tue (12-214-236-223.client.mchsi.com/12.214.236.223)

What you are saying is all true, in part, but you have the same advantage as everybody else. The 10 sq. ft. wing, and only one cockpit adjuster will limit your ability to hook up the car. I can also tell you that on three different tracks that we have raced on repeatedly, that when the A class and multis ran there was less than a tenth of a second difference in track records between them. Please feel free to also read the gentleman from NY post below. It is working there for a extended time with good results. It is also working well in other locations.

thanks butch frantz

>There is a major flaw in your rules! The problem, as I
>see it, is this: You only have weight limits based on
>bore and stroke (and wing size). That is good in
>theory, but you have overlooked a MAJOR detail! If I
>go out and mill my head, degree my cam, add a timing
>advancer and a power commander box, I have spent more
>money on my motor and I'm still at 600cc and therefor
>can weigh 750. Now the budget racer is at a
>disadvantage, which is exactly what you're trying to
>avoid! Just my thoughts, please correct me if I'm
>wrong!

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[> [> Re: Major Flaw in rules -- Shaun Brandt, 07:50:46 03/06/08 Thu (NoHost/199.173.226.232)

Well I race in the class formerly known as the A-class at Sweet Springs now. I have NO cockpit adjusters now and I hit my set-ups quite often. And when I'm off, the one adjuster would be all I would need to dial it in most of the time. Plus any tire helps hook up all the extra motor! Put a hard tire on them and it would help level the playing field. It doesn't need to be stamped, just needs to pass a durometer test. Plus we race for 30 laps, which in a race with no yellow flags (which happens often enough) that 0.10 adds up to a 3 second advantage on a track that 12 seconds is a lap, that means a quarter of a lap advantage. Plus you are just comparing record times, not the times that are consistently posted by these two classes which is closer to 0.30 to 0.50 seconds faster in many cases! I think this is all a huge step in the right direction, it just needs something else to level the field even more. Don't ask me what it is, but there has to be something.

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[> [> [> Re: Major Flaw in rules -- TOM ATHON, 09:58:30 03/07/08 Fri (216-43-39-185.dsl.mcleodusa.net/216.43.39.185)

I agree with Shaun, at Sweet Springs have racers that are big guys that go across the scales at 800+ and they are very fast I think the bigger the motor the harder the right rear should be I dont think the weight handicap is enough but you will find out. If the big motor is what wins everybody will need to buck up to be competitive.Just my opinion TOM

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Link about the NMMA by Joyce Miller, Historian -- Webmasters Office, 09:46:14 02/09/08 Sat (12-202-185-116.client.mchsi.com/12.202.185.116)

This article from the About the old NMMA has been updated by the Historian, Joyce Miller. She plans on trying to do more. Since the NMMA name is gone there will be articles from the old and very soon articles from the New, 600 Micro Sprint USA coming soon as things happen from time to time. But look for the About the NMMA link on the front page and see who did what and when.

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" rules as discussed on maximum dirt.com -- Alan knell (happy), 13:46:49 02/07/08 Thu (mntl-sknell.micro.uiuc.edu/128.174.190.47)

This was a discussion about the rules on Maximum dirt.

Re: why all the discussion about rules
by AHRTeam on Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:11 pm

The rules are there because of drivers like yourself. With the rising costs of racing and fuel prices going higher and higher, low budget teams are having a hard enough time getting to the track. Once at the track they have to compete with their stock 600 engine vs. someone�s bored out 637cc engine all at the same weight is unfair. The rules are in place to let the maximum amount of drivers compete at the same time, and level the playing field. The rules allow for the high end teams to still go out and spend $10,000 on a motor, and at the same time a stock 600 (lower budget teams) can still be competitive with the larger (higher budget teams) allowing for bigger turnouts.

These rules have no been around for a long time. The NYMM Series was the first sanctioned body to try the weight rules and it has been nothing but success. Drivers no longer have to spend thousands of dollars to try and keep up with the high budget teams. I am not sure how they plan on distinguishing the cars, but with us it�s done by adding stickers to the side of the car. S-for stock, O-for open, and 2-for 2mm(637cc) cars. When you come across the scales, the tech insp. knows S=750lbs ect ect. You are given the stickers at the opening tech night, and if you change your motor you change the sticker. If you�re found cheating, you�re gone. Teching for motor size can be done in: 30 seconds once the spark plug is pulled. In 4 years we have yet to have someone cheat. It gives you a piece of mind knowing the motor size of the drivers you're racing against and to know that it will be teched. We tech every race at least the top 3.

It works folks, give it some time. Most of the posters here are drivers I�m sure. What you need to do is step out of the drivers point of view and into a promoter/president point of view. I heard this same grumbling that�s going on now 5 years ago when we introduced these rules here in NY. Talk to any of our drivers and they will tell you how good it�s been.NYMM Series
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[> Re: rules as discussed on maximum dirt.com -- jim wilson, 17:51:39 02/14/08 Thu (74-140-5-92.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.140.5.92)

What is the wt. for 2mm motors cars!>The rules are drivers like yourself.
>With the rising costs of racing and fuel prices going
>enough time getting to the track. Once at the track
>they have to compete with their stock 600 engine vs.
>someone�s bored out 637cc engine all at the same
>weight is unfair. The rules are in place to let the
>maximum amount of drivers compete at the same time,
>and level the playing field. The rules allow for the
>high end teams to still go out and spend $10,000 on a
>motor, and at the same time a stock 600 (lower budget
>teams) can still be competitive with the larger
>(higher budget teams) allowing for bigger turnouts.
>
>These rules have no been around for a long time. The
>NYMM Series was the first sanctioned body to try the
>weight rules and it has been nothing but success.
>Drivers no longer have to spend thousands of dollars
>to try and keep up with the high budget teams. I am
>not sure how they plan on distinguishing the cars, but
>with us it�s done by adding stickers to the side of
>the car. S-for stock, O-for open, and 2-for 2mm(637cc)
>cars. When you come across the scales, the tech insp.
>knows S=750lbs ect ect. You are given the stickers at
>the opening tech night, and if you change your motor
>you change the sticker. If you�re found cheating,
>you�re gone. Teching for motor size can be done in: 30
>seconds once the spark plug is pulled. In 4 years we
>have yet to have someone cheat. It gives you a piece
>of mind knowing the motor size of the drivers you're
>racing against and to know that it will be teched. We
>tech every race at least the top 3.
>
>It works folks, give it some time. Most of the posters
>here are drivers I�m sure. What you need to do is step
>out of the drivers point of view and into a
>promoter/president point of view. I heard this same
>grumbling that�s going on now 5 years ago when we
>introduced these rules here in NY. Talk to any of our
>drivers and they will tell you how good it�s been.NYMM
>Series
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" 2008 Wayne Co. Speedway Schedule -- Jimmy Kemp, 20:35:28 02/05/08 Tue (75-129-247-191.dhcp.mtvr.il.charter.com/75.129.247.191)

AFTER LAST NIGHTS CLUB MEETING WE ARE PROUD TO RELEASE THE 2008 WAYNE CO. SPEEDWAY SCHEDULE.

ALL OUTLAW MICRO SPRINT RACING WILL BE RUN ON FRIDAY NIGHTS.

THE CLASS LINE UP FOR 2008 IS, JUNIOR SPRINTS, OUTLAW 600 RESTRICTOR, OUTLAW 600 NON WING, OUTLAW 600 WING, AND 600/1200 UPRIGHT MINI SPRINTS. SAME RULES AS POSTED IN 2007, EXCEPT FOR, NO RIGHT REAR TIRE RULE ON NON WING, RUN WHAT YOU WANT, AND TUNED PIPES WILL BE ALLOWED ON THE YAMAHA JUNIORS AND BOTH ENGINES BRIGGS AND YAMAHA'S MUST BE STOCK APPEARING.

GATES OPEN 5PM, DRIVERS MEETING AT 7:00PM WITH HOT LAPS AND RACING TO FOLLOW. **GATE TIMES WILL VARY WITH SPECIAL EVENTS AND WILL BE POSTED**.

AGAIN IN 2008 WE WILL OFFER TWO SETS OF HOT LAPS IN CASE SOMEONE HAS PROBLEMS AND NEEDS A SECOND SESSION.

APRIL 18th, TEST AND TUNE PRACTICE NIGHT
APRIL 25th, TEST AND TUNE PRACTICE NIGHT RAIN DATE
**PIT PASSES WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE TEST AND TUNE DUE TO INSURANCE COST'S AND COVERAGE**

RACING WILL BE EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT FROM MAY 2ND TILL THE SEASON FINALLY OCTOBER 3RD, 2008.

ANY DRIVER WISHING TO RUN TWO CLASSES WITH THE SAME CAR WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY THE FULL PRICE FOR EACH CLASS. MEMBER CAR/DRIVER $25.00, NON MEMBER $30.00, PIT PASSES
$20.00, KIDS 12 AND UNDER $10.00. **PRICES SUBJECT TO CHANGE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS**

THROUGHOUT THE RACING SEASON WE WILL HAVE GUARANTEED PURSE RACES AND MONTHLY DOUBLE POINTS RACES. FOR THOSE OF YOU WISHING TO CHASE TRACK POINTS YOU MUST BE A MEMBER OF THE WAYNE CO. SPEEDWAY AND RUN AT LEAST FIVE WEEKLY RACES TO BE ELIGIBLE. THE TOP THREE DRIVERS IN EACH CLASS WILL RECEIVE CHECKS AND THE TOP FIVE WILL RECEIVE TROPHIES AT THE YEAR END BANQUET.

THE POINTS FUND IS BASED ON NUMBER OF CARS RUNNING PER CLASS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AT $5.00 PER CAR. THAT NUMBER IS TOTALED AND BROKE DOWN, 1ST PLACE 50%, 2ND PLACE 30%, AND 3RD PLACE 20%.

ANY ONE INTERESTED IN BECOMING A MEMBER OF THE WAYNE COUNTY SPEEDWAY CAN CONTACT ME OR SECRETARY DAVID PARKER FOR A 2008 MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION. MEMBERSHIPS RUN FROM JANUARY TO DECEMBER AT A COST OF $30.00. BECOMING A MEMBER SAVES THE DRIVER $5.00 PER NIGHT, PER CLASS.

2008 WEEKLY PAY OUT.

1-9 cars-- 10-15 cars-- 16-20 cars
1- $60---- 1- $100----- 1- $200
2- $50---- 2- $75------ 2- $150
3- $45---- 3- $60------ 3- $90
4- $40---- 4- $50------ 4- $75
5- $35---- 5- $45------ 5- $60
6- $30---- 6- $40------ 6- $50
7- $25---- 7- $35------ 7- $45
8- $20---- 8- $30------ 8- $40
9- $15---- 9- $25------ 9- $35
----------10- $20------ 10-$30
---------1/15-$15----11/20-$15

The above pay out was effective 08-24-07 for all classes running At Wayne Co. Speedway for Weekly show�s with a 3 car Minimum.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ATTEMPTING TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE AND WILL POST INFORMATION ON SPECIAL EVENTS WHEN THESE ARE FINALIZED.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO 2008 AND HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE FOR SOME GOOD WHEEL TO WHEEL RACING.

JIMMY KEMP, PRESIDENT
jkemp1967@charter.net

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" Answer to Day 1 -- Chuck Kidwell, 09:02:26 01/15/08 Tue (adsl-75-51-224-141.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net/75.51.224.141)

This is answer to Day 1

You said you hope you could get answered�.I hope I can give you and the rest of the interested people those answers.

NMMA�s house was literally burned down. There is no person or group to point to for throwing in the match�.it just self ignited. The membership was down to around 55 from 800 just a few years ago. The rules were too technical, there was no way to accurately enforce them; the drivers were upset with the way they were treated in tech; the tracks and clubs were unhappy with the way they felt they were being treated and above all times and technology was way ahead of the organization. Something had to be done! I had no intent of running for President when I placed a post on the Message Board stating what I thought was wrong and some ideas that might work to get us as the leader in Micro Sprint racing again. A few weeks later I was approached by several members asking me to run for the office. After contacting many track owners, chassis builders, engine builders and drivers, I accepted the nomination. I realize that only 50 or so people voted, but they are the membership and I became their choice.
After a big house fire, about all that is left is the foundation. That is what the NMMA is and we will build new from that. Yes, there is a name change. I was told by many tracks and drivers across the country that as long as it was the NMMA, they would not consider joining ever again. The name chosen by the Board was 600 Micro Sprint USA. Our cars are called Micro Sprints in most areas of the country and the 600 designates our engine size as does 360�s or 410�s do our big brothers. It gives us a new identity.
The old NMMA will not be allowed to die. The new website is under construction and will have stories by the Historian, articles on past National Champions and pictures of the cars that are so much of our valued History. We welcome those �old timers� to share their experiences on the web site. The message board and classifieds will continue and we encourage positive constructive content that is not just personal agenda but for the good of the organization.
The members do have a voice. They just have to use it. Contact the officers. Tell them your feeling. Ask questions. We are always open to fresh constructive ideas.
There is some money left in the treasury. Two thirds is in CD�s and the rest is our operating capital until the organization is up and running again. As a member you can call Mary Ellen Harris and she can give you the amounts. This is open to any member in good standing at any time.
I hope this answers the question you and others have been asking.
Thank you for asking. Please contact me at any time.

Chuck Kidwell President
600 MicroSprint USA

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" Wing rule -- Terry P, 10:25:04 01/12/08 Sat (dial-159-109.shawneelink.net/206.125.159.109)

Better rethink your wing rule!

Just my thought what's everybody else think?

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[> Re: Wing rule -- Jim Miller, 17:07:45 01/13/08 Sun (static-209-107-233-102.consolidated.net/209.107.233.102)

Could you be more specific. What part of the wing rule should we rethink? Thanks for your imput.

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[> Re: Wing rule -- keith, 18:00:57 01/14/08 Mon (71-223-158-124.phnx.qwest.net/71.223.158.124)

>Better rethink your wing rule!
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>Just my thought what's everybody else think?
Give the new association a break man try and see if what they are trying do will work before you cause trouble

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[> [> Re: Wing rule -- Terry p, 07:04:55 01/17/08 Thu (pw1.shawneelink.net/216.240.66.22)

Sorry you think I'm trying to cause trouble, my fault I read the rule wrong.

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" who -- day 1, 15:15:21 01/10/08 Thu (client-67-58-225-14.consolidated.net/67.58.225.14)

I was just wondering when and where all of these great ideas arecoming from.I know that I paid a membership last year and was unable to enjoy the n.m.m.a.I also know that I as a member didn't have a idea about none of these changes.I believe the members of last year should be waived of any membership charges of this new series,if any are in order.I hope that the history of the N.M.M.A is not forgotten.Like posting past champions of everyclass,historians. presidents etc.I have many concerns and do not understand why these changes are being made without say of the membership,I also believe the N.M.M.A had a few thousand dollars??Hopefully I can get a answer.

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[> Re: who -- Chad23, 15:09:00 01/30/08 Wed (74-135-146-40.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.135.146.40)

I agree that those of us that payed last year should get a free ride this year!!!!

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Happy New Year -- Webmasters Office, 07:33:40 01/01/08 Tue (12-202-185-116.client.mchsi.com/12.202.185.116)

Wishing You the Best New Year and Racing Season.
Don and Dorothy Marks

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" JACK VANNEMAN PASSES -- W. Pat McGrath, 13:44:04 12/23/07 Sun (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

Got a note from Sax Wyatt in Lancaster, Pa. with an artical "Remembering Jack Vanneman" by Barry Angstadt from the AREA AUTO RACING NEWS. Jack died on Sept.20.2007 at the age of 92. He was the first Vice President of the National Micro Midget Association in 1956. The last time Jack raced with the NMMA was the 1988 Nationals at Coles County Speedway he was 73 at that time. He last raced at Lanco Speedway in Lancaster, Pa. at age 81 eleven ago. May he rest in peace.

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" Poll of the Week -- Curt, 21:00:56 12/15/07 Sat (NoHost/72.25.61.45)

The latest poll has been posted at www.shredracing.com

A partial 2008 schedule for the team has also been posted.

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" Race4life 2008 -- Freebird, 12:25:25 12/15/07 Sat (74-34-162-134.br2.fod.ia.frontiernet.net/74.34.162.134)

We are proud to announce Sweet Springs Motorsports Complex will be our host for the Race4life 2008 campaign. Memorial day weekend will again be the date for all to gather, race, and have fun for the enrichment of someone else's life. The MRMF http://www.michaelrossmemorialfoundation.com/ will be our target charity for the 08' race. With repeat sponsors in place and new advertisers on board, this years race will truly be a great weekend. We are extremely excited that SSMC http://www.sweetspringsraceway.com/ took the challenge to host our event. With big show experience, professional personnel and a facility that is second to none, SSMC will take this show to the next level it deserves. We see this years event as one you will not want to miss. Changes to this years program will include more classes, more trophy's more cash and more prizes and more importantly, more donations! The "Kids Helping Kids" program will again be in effect, as we will honor multiple winners with prizes. Also reserved for this program are top feature positions and a Young Ambassador award which we consider the highest honors of the weekend.

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" Thank Chuck! -- Wade Huisman, 16:52:32 12/10/07 Mon (74-34-162-134.br2.fod.ia.frontiernet.net/74.34.162.134)

Chuck, Thanks for stopping at our booth last weekend and talking. Chuck was working very hard in Orlando Fl talking to hundreds of suppliers & racers about things to come. Your efforts are appreciated.

Wade Huisman
21w

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" Addresses Needed -- Lisa Hall, 19:55:46 12/09/07 Sun (mo-76-4-164-79.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/76.4.164.79)

I am the Secretary/Treasurer for the Sweet Springs Race Track. If anyone has any info or addresses for the following people, please let me know. These people either have checks that they did not pick up or their feature win stickers. You may email me the info at lrh81273@yahoo.com Here are the people: Jordan Long, Matt Fiala, James Ensley, Ryan Cates, Tony Beam, David Armes, Chris Turner, Andrew Felker, Zach Gigot, Michael Davidson, Garrett Duff, Tanner Mullins, and Austin Rees. Thanks for helping out!!

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[> Re: Addresses Needed -- Brent, 13:41:50 12/10/07 Mon (client-216-176-81-143.consolidated.net/216.176.81.143)

>I am the Secretary/Treasurer for the Sweet Springs
>Race Track. If anyone has any info or addresses for
>the following people, please let me know. These
>people either have checks that they did not pick up or
>their feature win stickers. You may email me the info
>at lrh81273@yahoo.com Here are the people: Jordan
>Long, Matt Fiala, James Ensley, Ryan Cates, Tony Beam,
>David Armes, Chris Turner, Andrew Felker, Zach Gigot,
>Michael Davidson, Garrett Duff, Tanner Mullins, and
>Austin Rees. Thanks for helping out!!

Garrett Duff...Scott Duff (father)

217-736-2610

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" 1200 Upright Sprints -- Randy Foutch, 10:13:05 12/08/07 Sat (NoHost/65.208.235.66)

Need a contact name and phone number for the leader of the Upright Sprints.

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[> Re: 1200 Upright Sprints -- Kelly, 14:27:45 12/17/07 Mon (dialup-4.159.98.192.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net/4.159.98.192)

>Need a contact name and phone number for the leader of
>the Upright Sprints.
Better stay away from the 1200s they have been run off every track they have been to.

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nmma tracks for 2008 -- Alan knell, 11:35:55 12/03/07 Mon (mntl-sknell.micro.uiuc.edu/128.174.190.47)

I was wondering if we would have any national tracks for this coming year ? if there would be a multi day national event ? how many tracks are showing interest in the NMMA at this point?

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[> Re: nmma tracks for 2008 -- Chuck Kidwell, 10:02:04 12/05/07 Wed (adsl-76-214-123-144.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net/76.214.123.144)

Allen,
We usually have little response from tracks until February or March, however, there has been interest from tracks that I have been talking with. We will have a Board meeting On December 15th to finalize a SIMPLIFIED set of rules. I am on my way to the PRI show to meet with Insurance groups to find the best plan available at a reasonable cost that will be attractive to the private promoter and the clubs. More will follow as these items are finalized. The new Board is working very hard to make this a Racer friendly organization. We are also considering a National event to be held at a neutral location.

Thanks for your interest. I hope this will answer some questions that others are also asking.

Chuck Kidwell

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THIS MESSAGE BOARD HAS CHANGED -- Webmasters Office, 10:37:42 12/03/07 Mon (12-202-185-116.client.mchsi.com/12.202.185.116)

AS OF DEC.3RD THIS BOARD WILL BE TOTALLY MODERATED. WHEN YOU POST IT WON'T SHOW UNTIL IT IS OK'ED BY EITHER THIS OFFICE OR THE PRESIDENT. THIS OFFICE WILL CHECK AT APPROXIMATELY 4 PM EVERY DAY TO OK POST AND THE PRESIDENT WILL AS OFTEN AS HE CAN..

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2008 FMSA 600-750cc Shootout / Winternationals -- Jesse-FMSA Pres, 19:57:05 11/30/07 Fri (adsl-074-237-225-224.sip.mco.bellsouth.net/74.237.225.224)

Go to www.flminisprints.com for all the info. on 600-750cc Racing in Sunny Florida. Jan. - Feb. 8-Nights of Racing.
Also go www.microsprintsofflorida.com for all the 2700 Winternationals and if anyone is running 1000cc Uprights you can go to www.midwestminisprints.com for all their info. Together it will be a HOT Event.. In Warm and Sunny Florida

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" ASCS2 -- Service Manager, 12:22:50 11/27/07 Tue (NoHost/198.207.222.130)

A great article is featured in this months Sprint Car and Midget concerning ASCS2. From reading the interviews with Emmitt, looks like ASCS2 is the future of racing for Micro's. Definitely needed since NMMA has died an agonizing death (they just haven't realized that they have passed on. A passing that is certainly not mourned by all. Great pics too of Andrew Felker, JRock, Crawford and the Hahn boys. With Emmitt's backing ASCS2 should be great for the sport.

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[> Re: ASCS2 -- ED (DEAD HORSE), 19:15:12 11/27/07 Tue (client-216-176-88-74.consolidated.net/216.176.88.74)

>A great article is featured in this months Sprint Car
>and Midget concerning ASCS2
If ASCS2 IS SO GREAT PUT IT ON THERE WEB SITE AND STAY OFF THIS ONE . PS IF ITS DEAD NO ONE WILL READ IT HEAR. ED

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[> [> Re: ASCS2 -- Jake, 20:02:29 11/28/07 Wed (NoHost/12.206.243.214)

........dude......

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" HAPPY HOLIDAYS -- W. Pat McGrath, 09:44:17 11/24/07 Sat (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

Carol and I would like to wish everyone a MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR.

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" New EVP -- Webmasters Office, 17:48:01 11/04/07 Sun (12-201-77-34.client.mchsi.com/12.201.77.34)

New EVP -- Joe Smiley EVP, 15:10:23 11/02/07 Fri (c-68-53-108-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.108.118)
Congratulations to Butch Franz your new 2008 Eastern VP.
Good luck I hope you can help get the NMMA back to where it was.
Also congratulations to Chuck Kidwell your new 2008 President.Good luck Chuck I know you will do a fine job.
Congratulations also to Dean Hathman who is now the Senior
VP and incharge of interpreting the Rule Book. Thanks also to all that voted for me.
Joe Smiley EVP
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[> Re: New EVP -- Duffy, 14:08:32 11/12/07 Mon (c-67-181-219-170.hsd1.ca.comcast.net/67.181.219.170)

Joe, Thanks for your years of service. I know it was a thankless job and at times you offended people and were accused of favoritisim. Shrug it off and go on, it's part of the job. You put in long hours doing what you thought best for the organization. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, but you were there, doing the job. Enjoy you time off and pray the organization can recover. Time to let someone else fret over it. Good luck to the new board.
Thanks
Duffy

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" Final KidSprint USA results -- Chuck Kidwell, 17:28:46 11/04/07 Sun (74-133-2-217.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.133.2.217)

The final results are now posted on kidsprintusa.com website. We want to thank all the drivers and their parents and sponsors that participated. Keep watching the website to stay up with the future. Also there will be an entry blank avialable for the Rumble Series race at Ft Wayne in the next few days. The drawing for the KidSprint Car will be held at the Coles County banquet on Nov. 10th. Thanks for the great year and the even greater competion during the past season.

Chuck and Donna

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" ELECTION FIGURES -- W> PAT McGRATH, 15:02:10 11/02/07 Fri (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

THE VOTING WENT AS FOLLOW.

PRESIDENT:

CHUCK KIDWELL 34

DEAN HATHMAN 7

JEFF HORN 1

EASTRERN VICE PRESIDENT:

BUTCH FRANZ 20

JOE SMILEY 16

Good luck in making the NEW NMMA.

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" Did everyone vote? N/T -- Dwayne, 11:33:53 10/30/07 Tue (static-66-14-202-160.bdsl.verizon.net/66.14.202.160)

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[> Re: Did everyone vote? N/T -- W. Pat McGrath, 07:51:22 10/31/07 Wed (adsl-074-182-021-057.sip.jan.bellsouth.net/74.182.21.57)

The attorney does not open the P.O. Box until tomorrow.

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[> [> Re: Did everyone vote? N/T -- Dwayne, 12:33:45 10/31/07 Wed (static-66-14-202-160.bdsl.verizon.net/66.14.202.160)

I knew that Pat, it was just my way to remind people to send their votes in

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" DEAN HATHMAN IS YOUR MAN -- RACERX, 20:07:36 10/08/07 Mon (host-216-76-164-7.owb.bellsouth.net/216.76.164.7)

DEAN IS THE MAN TO VOTE FOR. OR VOTE FOR NONE OF THE ABOVE. THE TITANIC HAS NOT YET GONE ALL THE WAY DOWN YET. STILL WAITING FOR THE BIG FLUSH...

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[> How many can vote in this big election -- past supporter, 20:10:39 10/08/07 Mon (dial-159-229.shawneelink.net/206.125.159.229)

>DEAN IS THE MAN TO VOTE FOR. OR VOTE FOR NONE OF THE
>ABOVE. THE TITANIC HAS NOT YET GONE ALL THE WAY DOWN
>YET. STILL WAITING FOR THE BIG FLUSH...

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[> 1st U have to be a member ! -- Racer 4 God, 05:30:32 10/22/07 Mon (12-201-77-34.client.mchsi.com/12.201.77.34)

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[> [> Re: 1st U have to be a member ! -- Andy Brink, 19:48:29 11/03/07 Sat (12-216-174-232.client.mchsi.com/12.216.174.232)

How many members are there? not much. JMO

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" elections -- Paul, 08:50:11 10/06/07 Sat (74-135-147-156.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.135.147.156)

I think I am going to wright in Butch Frantzs name spread the word

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[> Re: elections -- Paul, 08:51:18 10/06/07 Sat (74-135-147-156.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.135.147.156)

>I think I am going to wright in Butch Frantzs name
>spread the word
for VP

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" Asking for your vote for ReElection as EVP -- Joe Smiley EVP, 17:04:50 10/05/07 Fri (c-68-53-108-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.108.118)

I completly agree with Chuck's ideas and have been trying
for a long time to implement some of his suggestions.
I am asking for your vote for ReElection as your Eastern
Vice President.
If I am ReElected I will give my complete support To who
ever is elected as our new president for the 2008 Racing
Season.
I have been friends and worked with Chuck for a good many
years and have been on the NMMA Board with Dean for many years.I would have no problem working for a New NMMA with
either one.

Thanks Joe Smiley EVP SVP

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[> Re: Asking for your vote for ReElection as EVP -- Ed Carter (What can you do for the NMMA??), 07:03:17 10/06/07 Sat (client-216-176-88-166.consolidated.net/216.176.88.166)

Its time for whoever wants to see the NMMA get back on its feet to stand up and tell us what you yourselves are going to do to promote the sport.I know it takes time and money to get out and go to the tracks put we the racers need to know what and who is going to represent us as a body not just a select few.Everybody said it was the leader ship of the NMMA that caused it to fall.Its easy to blame somebody else instead of blaming ourselves.Some still dont want to see the NMMA come back. They dont want to be governed by anybody so that is going to be a hurdle to jump.If you are not willing to stand up fight, we need to know who is willing to sacrifice their time and energy to promote the NMMA and not thereselves.Tonight is a good nite to start to promote the Rebuiding of the NMMA at a race track nearest you.We will see Chuck at the races . WHERE WILL YOU BE?? PS THATS MY OPINION Ed Carter

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[> Re: Asking for your vote for ReElection as EVP -- Joe Smiley EVP, 17:49:37 10/11/07 Thu (c-68-53-108-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.108.118)

>Ed as I said I will work with who ever gets elected as our 2008 NNMA President and do all that I can to bring the NMMA back to where it used to be.
I have some good ideas but do not think it would be proper to voice them now.We need to let the new President do that
since he will be in full charge.
You ask me where I will be? If ReElected I will visit all of my tracks as I have always done.

Thanks Joe Smiley

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[> Re: Asking for your vote for ReElection as EVP -- Phillip Brimmer, 16:25:59 10/14/07 Sun (75-17-70-240.wimax.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/75.17.70.240)

Hey guys we are in Texas and building a new program, i have been working hard as well as others to Keep an NMMA program we now have over 25 cars in a little under a 17 month promotion program.... we are willing to Look at Working the NMMA and rebuilding the program in this area, since is a new series and program we dont have any of the old ideas in the North Texas area so the guys coming in want a uniform member package and race package. I have spoke to Mary Ellen at length and she knows we are here
to help.... i think we can bring in 3 tracks and about 30 members from the get go...... Lets get this vote over with and move forward lets us know... so we can go to work.. you all have some great ideas in the works and this cause is worth saving and re building.... it can be done.

Phillip

>I completly agree with Chuck's ideas and have been
>trying
>for a long time to implement some of his suggestions.
>I am asking for your vote for ReElection as your
>Eastern
>Vice President.
>If I am ReElected I will give my complete support To
>who
>ever is elected as our new president for the 2008
>Racing
>Season.
>I have been friends and worked with Chuck for a good
>many
>years and have been on the NMMA Board with Dean for
>many years.I would have no problem working for a New
>NMMA with
>either one.
>
> Thanks Joe Smiley EVP SVP

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" Asking for your vote for ReElection as EVP -- Joe Smiley EVP, 16:50:52 10/05/07 Fri (c-68-53-108-118.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/68.53.108.118)

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" Election time -- Chuck Kidwell, 16:51:35 10/04/07 Thu (adsl-76-214-154-207.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net/76.214.154.207)

Well NMMA members, it is time for the bi-annual Presidential election. Earlier this summer I voiced my opinion on the Message Board about what I felt was needed to get the NMMA back to its position as the leader in Micro Sprint racing. As a result I was asked if I would run for President and I accepted with some reservation and stipulations about the job being returned to its form as it was earlier when the President had the authority to make decisions about policy and direction. As it is presently the only thing a President can do is conduct the meetings and break a tie vote. This resulted in an organization that had no place for the buck to stop! I am told that during the last Board Meeting there was general agreement with that. With that in mind the following are what I feel to be some of the most important items to accomplish.

During the last few months I have contacted and met with engine and chassis builders, track owners, drivers, past and current members and participants, insurance venues and these ideas are the result of those conversations. . The one outstanding point all agreed on was that a National Organization is needed to standardize the rules and help declare a true National Champion for the classes in Micro racing. The discouraging point was how many did not think the name �National Modified Midget Association� would attract members or tracks because of past reputation. This bothers me. We need to clean up the rules and our attitude to get members in an organization that will give correct exposure. We must find markets and publications to promote ourselves. There are very few Club tracks left when compared to the past. We must include the private promoted venues in our organization and give them the opportunity to participate and listen to their ideas.

One of the biggest attractions to the NMMA during the growing years of the �80s and early �90s was the insurance that was offered to the tracks. We need to find an insurance program that will offer the track a reasonable and adequate insurance plan. I am currently gathering information and believe we can offer a policy that will fill the need.

We need to replace the rule book with a simplified version and simple Tech!!!! If you can�t tech an item equally among all engines then it cannot be teched. This has been a major item in the past and a solution must be found as soon as possible. We have set our sights on the 600cc engine for all classes but we must also give those presently running
1 or 2 mil over engines the chance to run with us.

There is no overnight fix for the NMMA. It will take a few years but an organization with the right leadership and members working to use the resources available to us without personal agendas being pushed will create an organization that will succeed. If you feel this can be accomplished then give me your support to get this done.

Chuck Kidwell

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[> Re: Election time -- DAVID ROBINSON, 19:23:58 10/04/07 Thu (74-134-107-193.dhcp.insightbb.com/74.134.107.193)

Chuck, I really hope you and your people can get this in order. My question is what classes are you going to have? Thanks for your time David Robinson

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[> [> Re: Election time -- Chuck Kidwell, 05:07:53 10/05/07 Fri (adsl-68-77-206-172.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net/68.77.206.172)

David

The current classes would remain for the present. I would like to see only 4..wing, non-wing, restrictor and Kid (JR) Sprint plus some local option classes (250/70 or sportsman) in the future. Yhis format is in use with weight handicaps for the larger engines at several tracks now and is working well. The important thing is to NOT exclude an engine size now and work to the 600 cc limit in the near future. We need to be racer friendly!

The big thing we face is not pleasing one persons adgenda but trying to get simple rules that will work not only now but for the coming years without making shoot from the hip decisions.

Thanks for asking......See ya at the track.......

Chuck

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[> Re: Election time -- Janie Koebel, 18:18:51 10/06/07 Sat (12-219-169-176.client.mchsi.com/12.219.169.176)

>Well NMMA members, it is time for the bi-annual
>Presidential election. Earlier this summer I voiced my
>opinion on the Message Board about what I felt was
>needed to get the NMMA back to its position as the
>leader in Micro Sprint racing. As a result I was
>asked if I would run for President and I accepted with
>some reservation and stipulations about the job being
>returned to its form as it was earlier when the
>President had the authority to make decisions about
>policy and direction. As it is presently the only
>thing a President can do is conduct the meetings and
>break a tie vote. This resulted in an organization
>that had no place for the buck to stop! I am told
>that during the last Board Meeting there was general
>agreement with that. With that in mind the following
>are what I feel to be some of the most important items
>to accomplish.
>
> During the last few months I have contacted and met
>with engine and chassis builders, track owners,
>drivers, past and current members and participants,
>insurance venues and these ideas are the result of
>those conversations. . The one outstanding point all
>agreed on was that a National Organization is needed
>to standardize the rules and help declare a true
>National Champion for the classes in Micro racing.
>The discouraging point was how many did not think the
>name �National Modified Midget Association� would
>attract members or tracks because of past reputation.
>This bothers me. We need to clean up the rules and
>our attitude to get members in an organization that
>will give correct exposure. We must find markets and
>publications to promote ourselves. There are very few
>Club tracks left when compared to the past. We must
>include the private promoted venues in our
>organization and give them the opportunity to
>participate and listen to their ideas.
>
>One of the biggest attractions to the NMMA during the
>growing years of the �80s and early �90s was the
>insurance that was offered to the tracks. We need to
>find an insurance program that will offer the track a
>reasonable and adequate insurance plan. I am
>currently gathering information and believe we can
>offer a policy that will fill the need.
>
>We need to replace the rule book with a simplified
>version and simple Tech!!!! If you can�t tech an item
>equally among all engines then it cannot be teched.
>This has been a major item in the past and a solution
>must be found as soon as possible. We have set our
>sights on the 600cc engine for all classes but we must
>also give those presently running
>1 or 2 mil over engines the chance to run with us.
>
>There is no overnight fix for the NMMA. It will take
>a few years but an organization with the right
>leadership and members working to use the resources
>available to us without personal agendas being pushed
>will create an organization that will succeed. If
>you feel this can be accomplished then give me your
>support to get this done.
>
>Chuck Kidwell
This is just my opinion I feel that part of the problems with the NMMA were when Chuck was allowed to help make decisions with the board I listened as parents complained about this at the Nationals for 2 years in a row.I guess we see the old saying birds of a feather flock together. This week I have spoke to several past members and they feel there has been some good to come from Chuck but it was to eventually benefit his business, also they feel as I do that I cannot support the NMMA with him in as president and wonder by the time his tenure is up what kind of money will be left in the NMMA. I am sure this will not please all but it is my opinion thanks. m.koebel@mchsi.com 270-898-0573

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[> Re: Election time -- Terry, 16:56:38 10/07/07 Sun (cpe172-91.wireless.dnv.cooketech.net/66.213.172.91)

I agree, and my opinion is anyone who is involved in the micro/Jr.Sprint business should not be an officer in the organization. It would really make no difference if he or she directly or indirectly benefited from a decision but it will come up and the accusations will fly!! I was in the business and now do work for some of the major players in the business and would not be involved as an officer no matter what the circumstances were or are!
Chuck I would seriously think it over, I know you have good intentions to help or to fix it, if it can be done, but I would hate to see it have a negative impact on your business that you have work at building. The impact could be irrecoverable.
With all due respect,
Terry Dines

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[> [> Re: Election time -- NEWGUY, 22:31:52 10/07/07 Sun (72-161-204-249.dyn.centurytel.net/72.161.204.249)

I think there are several ways to look at this. I think it would be good to have someone like Chuck as a leader. My reason for this is that he is involved in the sport everyday. I give anyone credit who would stand up and assume the resposability. Yes, there will probably be conflicts, but I think you will have some anyway. If the leader is someone who is a weekend hobby racer, will the dedication be there, or will the agenda be short sighted and benefit only a few.

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" NEW ONLINE RACE EQUIPMENT SUPERSTORE -- Barry, 17:13:52 10/03/07 Wed (adsl-69-228-90-23.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net/69.228.90.23)

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To celebrate this EVERYTHING is marked down for a 2 week period only!

Please take a look. Feel free to have a ganders. The better this site does the more items in future we can bring you.

this has taken me alot of time and hard work so its a relief that we are finally there.

thanks

Barry

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" I need help with my oil pan on 07 suzuki 600 -- jimmy, 02:01:33 09/26/07 Wed (ip70-185-230-11.ok.ok.cox.net/70.185.230.11)

we dont run these motors around here so i was wondering if anyone could help me out. The pick up tube is in the front left handed corner of the pan. It is also made out of plastic.I built an oil pan i just need to know how the pick up tube stays in the whole. Do you tap it or have clamps to hold it in place. Please help and thanks

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[> Re: I need help with my oil pan on 07 suzuki 600 -- Butch, 14:31:40 09/26/07 Wed (12-214-236-223.client.mchsi.com/12.214.236.223)

jimmy call me at 217 621 8830

Butch Frantz

>we dont run these motors around here so i was
>wondering if anyone could help me out. The pick up
>tube is in the front left handed corner of the pan. It
>is also made out of plastic.I built an oil pan i just
>need to know how the pick up tube stays in the whole.
>Do you tap it or have clamps to hold it in place.
>Please help and thanks

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