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Date Posted: 17:31:05 02/02/14 Sun
Author: chris k
Subject: Excuse my language while I rant
what the hell is wrong with our world
I just read that Philip Seymour Hoffman - An amazing actor- is dead of a drug overdose at 46
Sseriously people-
Hollywood has always had it's insanities- we lost judy garland at an early age- and a slew of other greats
but isn't anyone ever going to learn?
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Apparently not. I never dared even try weed, so I don't get the appeal. But look at Cory Monteath. Did PSH learn from him? Now we see Justin Beiber starting on that road. This is the dark side of Hollywood fame, and there are bodies littered all over its history. -- Cece who is past caring., 03:32:45 02/03/14 Mon [1]
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Actors are people who are, for the most part, very sensitive, souls. Hollywood can be a soul-less place and I just read something that Jim Carrey wrote about the death of his friend when he said: "Dear r Philip, a beautiful, beautiful soul. For the most sensitive among us the noise can be too much. Bless your heart." Yhis really sums it up. Adding to that, some of the 'spiritual gurus' that prey on vulnerable sensitive actors and stars are so full of BS that they lead people down the wrong paths and to even darker places. I pray for him and his family and wish I knew how to stop the madness! -- mj, 12:25:03 02/03/14 Mon [1]
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while not applicable to Hoffman - what ticks me off is the media frenzy that follows the young people encouraging the attitude of no publicity is bad publicity- -- chris k, 13:11:17 02/03/14 Mon [1]
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As someone who appreciates actors (having failed aspirations of being one myself), I just don't buy that actors are more sensitive than the rest of us, particularly as the large majority of actors, famous and otherwise, don't go down the road of hedonistic pleasures just because they can afford to. I used to watch Celebrity Rehab with the kind Dr Drew Pinsky. Drugs made these celebs very unpleasant people, at least while they were still detoxing. (inside) -- Cece, 15:34:59 02/03/14 Mon [1]
I also watch Intervention, both the US and Canadian versions. The addicted person on these shows is never famous and rarely well off. I watch it because I have had guys working for me who have used crack cocaine, crystal meth, heroine etc. and I want to know how to recognize the behaviours and how to deal with the problem.
Most of these people and those on the show have had hard lives, and tough circumstances. Are they, too, move sensitive than other mortals? Maybe. Who knows? All I know is that, while I don't want to see the death of anyone before their time, and while I might miss a favourite artist, the Hollywood cliche of drug and alcohol abuse, not to mention bad behaviour, and multiple broken marriages of many members of the golden set, even given their amaazing good fortune, has inured me to their sad plights. For the most part, these people had far more choices than the poor street people, or for than matter, more choices than any of us.
There are just too many people who I really love and care about, who are presently suffering, or have died early from illnesses they had no control over. For them I reserve my grief.
And there are millions of unknown, unfamous, people in the world, sensitive and otherwise, who have to fight wars, poverty, and hunger. If I can, for the sake of my sanity, distance myself from their tragic reality, I can certainly, from a position of ennui, look at the fate of famous druggies with only a passing, depressing, modicum of interest.
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Well said, Cece. Addiction may be a disease once it gets hold of you, but if you don't take that first hit, you won't getting hooked. -- Deemus, 07:56:03 02/04/14 Tue [1]
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agreed - my favorite thing my mother taught me- that I believed and emparted to my children- If you need drugs or alchohol to have a good time, you're in the wrong place with the wrong people. -- chris k, 10:06:51 02/05/14 Wed [1]
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Something else well said! I agree completely. -- Deemus, 12:39:39 02/06/14 Thu [1]
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Very good advice! -- JJ Ronda, 06:35:58 02/07/14 Fri [1]
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People have been doing this kind of thing for millenia. We just see more of it because of the immediacy of the news cycle. -- The Chief, 00:17:47 02/11/14 Tue [1]
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In the modern world, illegal drug use is far greater than it was in the first 7 decades of the 20thc. When I was in elementary school in the 1950s, we were told about opium and its effects, but it's use was esoteric. Ordinary people did not have to worry about their children using even marijuana. Now the use of recreational drugs is widespread, across all classes. Hollywood glamourises drug use. Even drug overdoses are not blamed on the users. It's always someone else's fault. -- Cece, 12:50:35 02/11/14 Tue [1]
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But people STILL got addicted and still had problems with substance abuse beginning in the 1800s. And there was a time when many drugs were NOT illegal - opium, heroin, morphine, cocaine. There were many addicts but they were not using illeglly (I found a link with brief info - inside). Drugs were finally outlawed, but then the '60s happened. I agree that illegal drug use has been glamorized by Hollywood, the music industry, etc., and the choice to take that first hit is never anyone else' s fault. -- The Chief, 23:07:48 02/11/14 Tue [1]
http://casapalmera.com/the-history-of-illegal-drugs-in-america/
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In the past in Western societies, drug use was prevalent, mostly among the educated (poets, aesthetes, doctors etc). In the past few decades, ordinary working and middle class parents, have to watch out for early drug use by their kids, even in elementary school. Common drug use amongst late teens and up, didn't really happen (outside of the Beat Generation), until the mid to late 60s, and it certainly hadn't hit school kids. Overall, the figures are just not comparable to other centuries in terms of common, general usage. (inside) -- Cece, 16:00:30 02/12/14 Wed [1]
At least up to the end of the 19thc,laudenum, containing morphine and opium, was used as a pain killer, and I believe, even given to children to get them to sleep. (I may be wrong here.)
One of my favourite poems from the Romantics is Coleridge's Kubla Khan, completed in 1797. It was written after an opium induced dream. I also have a 100+ yrs old copy of Confessions of an English Opium Eater, by Thomas DeQuincey first published in 1822. One day I'll get around to reading it, but maybe it requires an ingestion of opium first!
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Julia Roberts's sister was just found dead of an apparent overdose. Sigh. -- Cece, 16:01:12 02/12/14 Wed [1]
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