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Date Posted: 23:18:52 05/07/12 Mon
Author: TF
Subject: CASTLE finale

No. Words. HOLY SMOKES. That is all, i'm dead. Thud!!!

Carry on whilst I look for an alternate oxygen source.

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[> Right there with you. That was amazing, awesone, mind blowing. -- Hope, 23:30:20 05/07/12 Mon [1]


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[> Loved it!! I've already re-watched the best parts several times! (Sound familiar?) -- shygirl, 01:59:11 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> Oh, if I only could, but it's a workday tomorrow and I've got to get up at "0 dark thirty." Do have it preserved in my memory - and on my DVR. -- Dancer - This is me with a silly grin on my face., 02:27:42 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> I'm speechless. Literally. I tried to tweet my thanks to Andrew Marlowe, but can't get the dang thing to send. LOLOL! Must be the shock of the wonderful. :-D -- Dancer, 02:25:33 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Holy ker-rap! Now that was real. I imagined that kind of scene for H and M a million times, but I'm guessing Castle writers actually know about romance and mind blowing sexiness. Wow......! I couln't have asked for more. Where do we go to let the writers know how much we appreciate them? Best shipper scene ever. -- Cece, 03:10:54 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> Here are a couple of good articles from Andrew Marlowe interviews. Click here. and this one Click here. I think AM must have seen what happened to JAG. DPB he ain't. -- Cece., 03:32:34 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> I don't watch Castle, but I read these interviews (thank you, Cece) and all I could think of was what a missed opportunity JAG had and let go! They could've been the forerunners on this and they blew it! JAG would've still be interesting viewing and alot more FUN if Harm&Mac had gotten together. Just mho! -- mj, 07:02:23 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> MJ, get your butt over to the previous seasons and get caught up. This is a fabulous show. Nathan Fillion (another handsome Canadian) is so funny, but oh so sexy too. We want you to join in the fun of discussing really great shipper moments. Bones could have learnt from this, as they completely wrecked the romantic feel. Castle shows them how to do it. -- Cece, 13:49:20 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> LOL! Ok, ok -- I'll look up now when it comes on!! We discontinued our Sky subscription (which still airs JAG, which I DO miss, but it wasn't worth the price of the subscription! lol) and now have BT Vision which has limited shows -- we just don't watch much TV although I LOVE the Danish 'The Killing' and 'Vera' and 'Sherlock', but I just don't watch TV like I used to. I noticed that 'castle' is on one of the channels -- I'll start watching now that I know it won't drag the 'ship' to ad nauseum like JAG did! Haha! -- mj, 17:32:08 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> I love that finally someone has the balls to put the leads together before it gets to late or the show is going off the air. It sounds like that have things planned out and now what doing. It can still be so intersting since there is so much for them to learn together since haven't spent nearly 10 years doing the dance. -- Hope - looking forward to next year, ABC just needs to make it offical they are renewed, 07:06:41 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Loved it! Happy shipper here! -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 06:37:00 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> I will second that. -- Hope - can't stop grinning, 07:07:37 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> So worth getting up at 4 am for...although my plan to sleep for another hour afterwards went straight to the gutter... -- Jam, 07:20:59 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> ROFL Jam! That is an awesome pun (intended or accidental?) ;) -- Colie, 15:36:54 05/10/12 Thu [1]


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[> Writers say they will not skip time, but will show the 'morning after' and the relationship at work. They said it will be 'fun'. FUN. DPB should be ashamed of himself. Here is are writers/directors/etc who (in advance) seem like they know how to ship and keep the show intact. THANK YOU CASTLE CREW!!!! -- BT, 10:42:15 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Holy Moly Batman!! That was just incrediable!! Loved it! Loved it! And I agree with what everyone else said!! Go Castle and Beckett!!!! -- Cathy F., 11:14:47 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> TF, you took the words right out of my mouth!!!! -- Cokie, 11:26:59 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> It was so refreshing to read about the producers talking about how much fun they are going to have exploring the ups and downs of the Castle-Beckett relationship. No mention of 'Moonlighting' at all. Thank goodness. -- SeaBeth, 11:26:27 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Like everyone else, I was OMGGGGGG'd at the end. It was so great. And what DB didn't realize is that when you put them together, it keeps the show fresh. Now, they have a whole new slew of storylines they can portray instead of the tired old, ignore, jealous, looks, etc. Now I'm excited about next season because you know they can't live happily ever after, but at least we know they both love each other and they can get through it together. inside... -- panting judi, 12:46:20 05/08/12 Tue [1]

I remember on JAG, one season ending with a 'look' and how that's what we had to survive the summer with on the boards. How ridiculous was that. That's why I fell off the shipper boat, because there were eps where they barely acknowledged each other, let alone acted like they cared.


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[> [> Yes, can you remember when we went nuts over "Come to me", or a barely perceptible "Yet". I hated what the JAG PTB put us through. They ruined what could have been a fabulous romance story. I think Andrew Marlowe should give Hollywood seminars on how to do it...LOL. -- Cece, 14:31:00 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> [> [> Exactly now instead of having the Moonlighting curse they can look to Castle as to how it can be done sucessfully. -- Hope, 15:16:07 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> Most. Amazing. Love. Scene. On. TV. Ever!! Mind is blown. I still can't think straight thoughts, keep rewatching the scene and the pictures and... *thud. I AM DEAD. The writers gave us, everything, the emotion, the desperation, the, words, the love. PERFECTION -- Colie... still can't get over this, 12:55:04 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> I loved it that Kate was so direct. "Beckett whaddya want?" "You." After that they didn't waste much time. No waiting for as long as it takes. No, "Come to me" [so I can meet you rain drenched at the door and dash your hopes by telling you I have to be with an old girlfriend..] Sorry to keep up with the comparisons with JAG, but this writing is everything we waited for JAG to have, and never got. -- Cece, 13:09:42 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Did you see the TEARS in CASTLE'S eyes are he told her what she meant to him?? OMG!! What about her hushed whispers saying "I'm so sorry". HOT HOT HOT -- BT, 13:03:18 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> How about the door slam, as he put his whole body into kissing her. Ummmm.....about that hand placement!!!!! Phew! -- Cece, still smiling., 13:12:31 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> Oh, yeah, the hand placement. HOLY SMOKES!! -- BT, 14:26:30 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> Certainly give mew meaning the their favorite phrase, "Shut the front door!!". LMAO -- TF...still panting., 20:46:49 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> Rotflol!! -- Cece, 20:50:16 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> Hahahaha! -- JJ (Ronda)--I will never hear that phrase the same way again!, 21:41:38 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> I don't normally watch castle- although I love susan sullivan - After JAG I pretty much had it with the will they won't they crime fighting duos- lol- But - I did happen to catch last nights episode because a houseguest was watching it- While I was reading a book at the same time as the last few minutes- I did notice I'll be darned they didn't walk away- After all the comments y'all have made- maybe I'll watch next season. I've always mixed the crime shows with romantic banter - like McMillan and Wife and Hart to Hart- This could be fun -- chris k, 13:45:40 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Check out this youtube (First Real Kiss Version 2) It plays the kiss in real time, then again in slow mo. Gasp. -- Cece, 19:13:56 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> I couldn’t develop the same passion that I had with H&M for this show but it’s still great to see that they took the plunge instead of dragging it out. Smart move and the scene was great! This is so much better than Bones. I hope I’m not ruining the enthusiasm but I am a little bit disappointed the way they got together. (Inside) -- Sunset, 21:22:56 05/08/12 Tue [1]

How could Castle abandon Beckett and let her face the danger herself because he thought she doesn’t love him the way he loves her? I was hoping that he would back her up once he realized that he couldn’t talk her into changing her mind about the investigation but he gave up! He didn’t try to help her. He went to the scene only because of the call and it could be too late. Maybe he was protecting himself from more hurt but this is life and death situation. How would he feel if she died while he sat on the side line? I would like see that he had the “die trying” attitude because of his love and was willing to help her no matter what.


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[> [> I think it was because she was hell bent on putting herself in a deadly enterprise and he would not be able to save her. He'd always had her back, but in this instance, he would be encouraging her to continue and that would have got her killed for sure. At this point, she thought he'd betrayed her by working the case behind her back. She was being stupidly reckless, and putting the other cop in danger too. Maybe Castle thought she'd see sense if no one backed her up. Just guessing here. I think I'll watch it again, in case I missed anything. -- Cece, 21:32:37 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> Oh and another thing. Castle isn't that good protecting anyone. She is the one who can use a gun. Castle lends his brain to these cases. She's the one who protects him. He's pretty much hopeless at police work. (It always kills me when I see Writer on his vest.....LOL.) -- Cece, 21:35:13 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> Yeah he would have been more a hinderace going up against that guy. I think he was hoping she would give it up for them. -- Hope, 21:51:25 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> She was reckless because she was obsessed (sounds familiar?) but I understand why she would not give up. Castle should know that too. I still hope he would help in some sort of way, tell her to be careful or whatever instead of saying “So this is over, I’m done.” I just can’t give up Harm the “hero” type of character! LOL -- Sunset, 22:05:36 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> IMO and i'm probably wrong, he knew he couldnt make her do something she wasnt ready to do. It was literaaly her epiphany to have. Like he said...he's been RIGHT there all this time. SHE had to want to give up. I think she would have regreted it had she beend forced into it before she was ready. -- TF...hopes that makes sense., 22:29:28 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> It makes sense. She told him clearly that he didn't get to interfere with her life, and she told him essentially, that loving her didn't give him that right. He had no choice but to back off. To do otherwise would have been patronizing. As you said, she had to find out for herself what was important to her. She was wrong, and she owned it. Mind you, if given the choice of a hot relationship with Castle or almost instant death by horrible means, hmmmmmmm.....what to do, what to do? LOL -- Cece, 18:51:37 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> [> Oops, I thought it was Castle who pulled Beckett up but it was the other cop. Castle didn’t go to the scene. He also didn’t take her call after the graduation ceremony. The bad guys are after Beckett. I hope Castle will be more supportive of her pursuit of truth and justice in the future. -- Sunset, 23:16:46 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> He is supportive but knew this was a suicide mission she would not have gotten justice just killed. He could not watch that and was not capable of stopping them. I wish someone would have said this is not what her mother would have wanted for her. She would not want her daughter to obsess to the point of being reckless and not caring if she dies. Harm was larger than life and to compare the impossible things he did to another show will always make the show and leads come up short. -- Hope, 23:26:18 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> Harm was a larger than life hero but in this case, I was thinking more about Mac supporting Harm who was the obsessed and reckless one. Cece is right, I need to remember Castle is a writer and he is not in the military or law enforcement field. I can’t compare them to H or M. That being said, the other cop called back up and saved her. (inside) -- Sunset, 00:21:53 05/09/12 Wed [1]

Castle can’t expect her to give up the quest for truth or shy away from danger, nor can he put her in a bubble or run away so as to protect himself from the pain to see her get hurt when those bad guys go after her. I hope he can use his brain to outsmart the villains or to help her to see other options to minimize the risk without giving up the fight totally.


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[> [> [> [> [> In any other case he does. It is just this one where he knew the bad guys want her dead and had the means to do it. -- Hope, 06:09:00 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> I watched the ep again. Castle kept her safe for a year. He was given an ultimatum: make her stop investigating or they will kill her. (Inside) -- Cece, 12:19:42 05/09/12 Wed [1]

Castle did everything he could to stop her, including telling her why she had survived the year. In the face of direct evidence, Kate still made the choice of plowing right into danger. She got one cop suspended (and nearly killed), because she acted irrationally and went in without backup. The other cop was made to feel bad he wouldn't go in on the scheme. Only by going against Beckett, did he save her life.

Castle could not support her dangerous actions, as now that she knew the truth, she was still not going to stop. Even when she was at the cop's funeral the year before, they almost succeeded in killing her. With all those cops around, Castle couldn't stop that bullet, but he dealt with the bad guys for a whole year to do the only thing he could to protect her. Beckett, with full knowledge, rejected his attempts. She angrilly declared that he had no business interfering with her life. She made that crystal clear, and he finally walked away. (She was wrong, which is why she repeated apologised.)

Now about Harm being the big hero. He was a hero, but he did not like "cowboys". I can't remember exactly what he said to the young hotshot pilot who took unnecessary risks, but it was something about him putting people in danger with his arrogance. Also, although Harm tried to stop Mac from going on that mission with Webb, he didn't go with her. It was only when she was missing, he went looking for her. (We have to remember, these women are professionals, adept at the use of weapons and self-protection.)

Kate wasn't acting as a police woman. She was on a personal, dangerous, quest, and, because she was not thinking straight, she willingly and knowingly put her own colleagues at risk. Harm would not have gone along with that, and neither did Castle. In the end, Castle felt he had lost her to a foolish, dangerous obsession. Fortunately for us, this isn't JAG. We sidn't have to watch Kate have a horrible relationship with a Webb-like character, and we didn't have to watch two people in love, act as cold as ice for the next two years. We got a fabulous scene of remorse, acceptance, passion, and true, wonderful love. Sigh.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Kate wanted the truth because it was personal to her but she was willing to put aside the investigation for a year even when she didn’t know that Castle made the deal for her. She just couldn’t step away when the leads from the murder investigation fell onto her lap again. I would be disappointed if she just let the murderer go because of concern of own safety but she should have a better plan and backup in going after the bad guy. (Inside) -- Sunset, 14:43:40 05/09/12 Wed [1]

My preference and character/relationship idealization really don’t matter as long as she accepted him and loved him enough to go to him. We do know danger will follow her and this threat will come up again. Hopefully, they will be able to deal with the conflict better since their love is out in open and they are a couple now. We are lucky that the writers chose to put them together instead of waiting till the series finale.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Amen to that. And kudos to the actors for making that scene so believable. It was delicious. -- Cece, 15:09:05 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I think if she was willing to work with the Captain and would have had backup Castle wouldn't had walked away but when she was trying to do it on her own it was just suicide. I also say Amen to that. -- Hope, 15:14:46 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> You're not alone Sunset.Its great and all but maybe if the leads were H&M its perfection.LOL! -- Brooke, 21:37:57 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Finally have more time to post. Wow! What a finale! THIS is what we should have seen on Bones (obviously on JAG too, but I'm preaching to the choir). So glad to see that TPTB realize that dragging it out further would be silly and that they already have plans for the future. Inside -- JJ (Ronda)--can't wait for next season!, 21:39:25 05/08/12 Tue [1]

After watching the kissing scene more than once (I won't say how many times), it seems like something was cut out of the middle. There is one place where she goes to kiss him and their faces are oh-so-close and then it cuts to a different angle where their faces are far apart and her finger is on his mouth. Maybe it was edited down for time constraints? If so, I rrreeeaaalllyyy hope there will be an extended kissing scene on the DVDs (like they did with the Bones mistletoe kiss).


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[> [> I felt that a well. It kind of stood out. But I like the thought of an extend seen. -- Hope, 21:49:08 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Love how they had her "hearing" Castle's voice when he wasn't there. And how she asked for/about him as soon as they pulled her up. Great writing! -- JJ (Ronda), 21:51:15 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> It was her ephiany of what she really wanted. -- Hope, 21:52:52 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> I think she wanted him to "save" her leterally and figuratively. In the end his love is what saved her from herself. -- TF, 22:26:45 05/08/12 Tue [1]


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[> Just one comment...HOLY CRAP!! -- jenks, 06:40:49 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> Did anyone else ,with the close up of Becketts scar, she is no longer wearing her mothers ring? Thats goes a long way into towards telling us where her heart is at now. -- TF, 19:44:45 05/09/12 Wed [1]


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[> [> Well, she had the ring when she went to visit her mother's grave, so maybe that was the begining. -- Dancer - So glad this topic is still going on, 01:27:23 05/10/12 Thu [1]


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