Oh dear it seems as though the boys have gotten the short end of the stick at worlds. Apparently they are on a smaller stage. Not sure how true this is but the UK/Irish board is discussing it. -- Real Men Irish Dance

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Date Posted: 09:44:21 03/05/09 Thu
Author: hope everythings fair for bigger guys
Subject: Oh dear it seems as though the boys have gotten the short end of the stick at worlds. Apparently they are on a smaller stage. Not sure how true this is but the UK/Irish board is discussing it.

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[> They are entirely in the smaller theater (seats 650) versus the bigger theater (seats 2500), but as far as stage size goes (see inside) it is not so clear. With smaller numbers, the boys logically can make the smaller theater work, and they will -- shine regardless!!, 10:25:47 03/05/09 Thu [1]

it is not clear. I am sure the smaller theater stage is somewhat smaller - the big theater stage is apparently HUGE. But they do not have the dimensions for the bigger one online. The smaller one is a 75 foot diameter rotating stage so the auditorium can be set up for a chamber concert (with seating in the back) or for a regular proscenium stage (like for theater). I anticipate they will use the proscenium version, as it is more like at other venues. It is not clear what the actual stage dimensions are, but if it is 75 feet across the back and even 25 feet deep, you still have more square footage (1875 sq ft) (slightly less, given the rounding of the stage at the front) than a 40 X 40 ft stage (1600 sq. ft.). Thus I would anticipate that the stage is plenty big, although not as huge as the one in the other theater. There are pluses and minuses to that, but the fact is the boys groups are smaller, with (generally) smaller crowds and they should fit comfortably in the smaller venue. It appears, with the numbers, that it wouldn't work otherwise (even as it is, the awards are set to be at 7pm and 9pm at night most nights). SO.....it is what it is. I look at it as a chance to see some truly phenomenal guys dancing and really be able to enjoy all the detail of their great dancing.

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[> By comparison, the stage in the studio theater in Belfast (where they do sets) is about 20 ft. by 40 ft, so this stage is clearly larger than that. That studio also only seats up to 380, and this seats 650, so it is not as small as you think it is. -- The boys will be grand., 10:37:32 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> [> Although everyone likes the "prestige" of the big hall, I think the smaller one is probably better suited for solo dancing overall, at least from what I can tell on comparisons -- IMHO, 10:40:49 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> I think that the older boys should be on the big stage. That is horrible that no boys are on the bigger stage. -- MW Mom, 10:40:08 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> [> I agree, but it is what it is. I did some more checking - the regular stage in the Perelman theater set up for dance/drama is 83 ft X 40 ft - even if they don't use it all, it is huge, actually as big as the Verizon Hall stage of 45 X 77 ft. From a dancer perspective, they will be in great shape, with a great stage, AND the hall will be small enough that they will be able to hear themselves better. I think the dancers generally -- will prefer the smaller auditorium., 10:58:11 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> I'm not particularly happy about this. We are paying the same rates as the girls, so there is no reason for the boys to be on the smaller stage! Very disappointed!! Seems as if the planning committe is saying the boys arent as important!! Disgusting!!!!!!!!!! -- mwmom, 18:02:18 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> Simple math. Smaller comps, smaller hall. -- Not rocket science !!, 19:15:01 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> [> I guess I am not really bothered by it-the stage will certainly be large. Being at Worlds is so amazing, I can't waste time on this, personally. As long as they are not on such a smallstage that the three at a time for the younger boys is an issue, I have no issue with it at all. It looks really beautiful, and I will bet that the sound will be amazing in a smaller area. -- Irishmama, 19:33:37 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> [> [> I agree with you - looks like the venues are all plenty big, no reason to grouse. Just enjoy -- the fabulous dancing, 20:00:28 03/05/09 Thu [1]

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[> Are you serving cheese with this whine? -- Whats the point?, 15:14:38 03/06/09 Fri [1]

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[> [> Venting and talking things over can be healthy. -- Lanie, 15:22:50 03/06/09 Fri [1]

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[> [> Well let's just get back to asking where we can buy boys flat fronted pants then instead of discussing something that many people are talking about. I am the OP and I thought that this might get this board going again and -- I was right, 19:41:14 03/06/09 Fri [1]

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[> [> [> Op, nothing at all wrong with bringing something up for discussion. But discussion means that some people wont agree with you, and that is OK. Keep the new topics coming~ -- Irishmama, 15:26:26 03/08/09 Sun [1]

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[> [> [> [> I totally agree about discussion but I think "do you want some cheese with that whine" is a little short of discussion -- get an argument, 04:16:11 03/09/09 Mon [1]

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[> [> [> [> [> No I agree that it is uncalled for, but you just got to ignore some comments! Anyway, I thought it was a good topic of discussion. -- Irishmama, 04:29:03 03/09/09 Mon [1]

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[> U19 Boy here. I'd just like to point out that as far as the dancing is concerned, it's the size and quality of the stage that matters to us, and not the size of the room. -- More inside., 19:13:23 03/19/09 Thu [1]

Talking from the perspective of a dancer here, and not the perspective of a spectator, as far as I'm concerned, I could be dancing in a room that only fits a big stage, judges and musicians, and as long as I have the space to do my dances to the best of my ability, that is good enough for me. The reality of the situation is that the boys competitions have fewer numbers, and if that means that by moving us they can run the day more effectively, then fine.
I can guarantee you that how many spectators are watching doesn't cross anyone's mind when they're on stage. All a dancer is concerned with once he's on stage are his dancing, the judges, the music, and doing his best.

I would like to remind everyone that this is a competition, not a show. The most important thing is allowing the boys to dance the best they can for the judges. Room size has no effect on that. I say stick me in whatever room you want, just give me the space on stage to do my best.

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[> [> well said, best of luck to you and all boys dancers-you are amazing -- girls mom, 12:23:32 03/20/09 Fri [1]

I watch the boys comps bc those older boys don't even seem to touch the stage during reel-it looks like you are in flight!

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[> [> Very well said, I couldn't agree more!! -- TC/mom of DS and retired dancer myself, 04:28:20 03/28/09 Sat [1]

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