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Date Posted: 15:37:30 10/11/14 Sat
Author: Alicia
Subject: Sail Back Saturday - Death Watch


Harm Death Watch

Harm/Mac DW 1

Harm/Mac DW 2


Ok, my inquiring mind also wants to know:

I know this episode was an incorporation of the at the time unaired Skeleton Crew. Thus the differences etc. However, some things still perplex me.

a) In season 1 there was no indication that Harm succumbed to Allison's advances, yet in his exchanges with Mac it makes it seem like he could have. Was that the impression they were going for at the time?

b) Did I miss something -- if Bud came to JAG at the same time as Mac, how would he know about Krennick's advances?

c) I know they picked the murderer based on actor availability when they did Death Watch, but in Skeleton Crew and in the beginning of Death Watch, Turkey was the NCIS agent on board, but in the end he wasn't. So was he lying about being the agent on board, or was this just another DPB inconsistency?

After We The People, I still don't get the whole lets change Diane's voice thing either.

I like this episode..however it confuses the heck out of me.

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[> good questions - but no real answers - LOL - I think the powers that be liked playing foot loose and fancy free with the story bible. but I think originally the problem of senior junior officer was the Krennick conflict - and I think the senior junior officer thing they referred to later wasn't him and krennick but him and Kate Pike. I honestly don't think he liked Krennick -- chris k, 18:27:37 10/11/14 Sat


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[> [> The line that gets me in those clips is Harm's to Mac, I wouldn't get involved with a superior officer any more than you would - or something like that. And we know she did, and would. He technically would have been superior to Kate. I think to for me its the way DJE delivered the lines. I have the script and its definitely a different feel. -- Alicia, 23:01:54 10/11/14 Sat


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[> [> [> but didn't they decide to get her involved with a sr officer after this ep? I think they just came up with stuff as needed and didn't care if it was or wasn't in character- like what lawyer in the real world Anywhere forgets to file for divorce? Seriously? they could have done the line the exact same way - who'd you kill ? My husband - cut to commercial come back - Harm- What? well. My ex husband. And on you go with the same scenario except Mac doesn't look an idiot - sigh -- chris k, 15:46:08 10/12/14 Sun


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[> [> [> [> Well this would have come after Good of the Service - where I dont think it was spelled out but you knew she had something with Farrow..and after The Stalker where she almost kissed the Admiral... so as a viewer I knew she would. -- Alicia, 17:17:21 10/12/14 Sun


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[> My impressions... (inside) -- The Chief, 00:19:25 10/13/14 Mon

a) I think in S1 they were trying to develop the harassment issue so close on the heels of Tailhook, but with a different twist. Krennick was obviously the power-hungry one and Harm was the one who could foil her plans for advancement. She had to subdue him somehow. When Harm tells Mac in DW that it wasn't about sex it was about power, that's what he was referring to. I got the impression from Krennick's character that she would most certainly have (and probably HAD) used her seductive advances on other officers - above and below her rank. And after Tailhook, the men in the military were running so scared that they wouldn't even think of breathing a word of it to anyone. So Krennick saw an opening to trample her way to the top and she took it. Harm, straight-arrow that he was, could have derailed her plans with JAG simply by doing his job well. Her goal was to destabilize him and throw him off his game so she could pass him. Everything she did was all about HER.

And don't forget, when they got back from CUBA (after "Smoked"), she shows up at Harm's place in exercise clothes and talking about being sweaty and declaring she was going to take a shower. It was a few seconds after that she was introduced to "Maria Elena Carmelita Moreno Gutierrez"! LOL Thank God Harm brought her home or Krennick could have very easily had her way. Either Harm would succumb to her advances and she could blackmail him for it, or he would tell her no and she would derail his career. Either way, MECMG was Harm's best defense!

b) Bud knew about Krennick because he was on board with Diane in Skeleton Crew. He was around and certainly heard scuttlebutt and gossip aboard ship. OR Harm may have told him about it some time we weren't privy to.

c) I'm not sure the answer to that one. I still have to watch them back-to-back to figure it out. There was certainly an element of cross-double-cross to the storyline.

As for Mac's and Diane's voices - voices are very unique. People who look alike don't usually have the same voices, even twins. I thought it was a good decision. Bud says that Diane was more "fun" than Mac, and the voice they used for Diane's later sounded more "fun", so that was fine with me.


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[> [> Thoughtful, insightful impressions :-) (inside) -- Alicia, 20:23:54 10/16/14 Thu

a) I guess the voice is sticky for me, because I saw Skeleton Crew before Death Watch, and this line from We The People from Harm to Mac about his "deja-vu", "Only whenever I see your face or hear you talk." I really wish they would have found a way to finish Skeleton Crew, as it really was well done.

b) Krennick.. quite the complex vixen lol... Because her tenure was cut short, we never got to see where they would have taken that, if anywhere. In The Prisoner there was a little glimpse that there was some level of caring on her part, "Are we having a competition over who cares more about Harm? I'm just as upset as you are.
I'm just not as good at showing it as you are. I never was.
I've grown to care very much about Harm." Then there was her contradictory behavior in Skeleton Crew-- though I really like the scene when she and Harm just stare at each other. The non-verbals in that episode were great.

I am way to nit-picky and analytical, but that is one of the reasons I like this show so much. It provides such a field for my little mind to go in circles lol....


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[> [> [> Alicia - inside -- The Chief, 01:00:31 10/18/14 Sat

I didn't remember that line in We the People. TPTB should have been a little more careful there. Especially since CB was giving Mac's voice the "Tallulah Bankhead" treatment. I find it hard to believe that two women would have the same low voice. It's obvious that they were trying to make Mac different than the bubbly Diane in so many ways, to the point where Bud says Diane was "more fun". So that line sounded good but contradicted everything else, which makes the line an anomaly and not her voice. Does that make sense?

Toss that in your analytical blender and see what you get! LOL


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[> [> [> [> You make perfect sense! I wish DPB had your sense-o-meter lol... :-) -- Alicia, 19:39:14 10/19/14 Sun


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[> Oh, and I have to insert a CORRECTION to the script that no one caught in the writing, but was certainly caught when it aired: There are NO "Red Lights" (i.e. traffic signals) on the Beltway. It is all interstate. Unless Mac was referring to brake lights, but that's hard to discern from the way the line is delivered. -- The Chief (anyone else feel nit-picky about that, or just me?), 01:39:50 10/16/14 Thu


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[> [> I'm thinking it was a poor combo on DPB's part, as you are right, as delivered it wouldn't be correct, and what would as red lights and rush hour doesn't make sense like brake lights would. Seems he wanted to get the stoplight jargon in there though. I wonder what made them switch from water in that scene as written to coffee lol... -- Alicia, 20:36:10 10/16/14 Thu


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[> [> [> I think coffee implies, "it's late, and there's lots more story to tell, so have something to keep you awake" LOL -- The Chief, 01:02:28 10/18/14 Sat


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[> [> [> [> Now I understand! :-) -- Alicia, 19:37:29 10/19/14 Sun


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[> [> There were times I was nit-picky about the whole series! LOL Especially the show's geographically challenged writers! ;-) -- Kim, 22:24:10 12/26/14 Fri


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