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"I just miss HARM... that tall handsome all-American hero with the 40-Kilowatt smile, oh-so-hot-in-a-uniform bod,
sexy laugh, drown-in-me eyes, protect-me-forever arms, truth-n-justice heart, and cocky
but slightly clueless jet-jockey personality.... *SIGH* If it weren't for Harm, I wouldn't have been here since the beginning,
making friends, having fun, debating, speculating, etc." The Chief

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Birthday Post notice. Aug/09. We are updating the HB birthdays Please go to the Friends Board and make sure your date is posted.

Happy Belated Birthday CLR!! -- ., 11:52:31 08/08/09 Sat

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- Hope you had a great day and best wishes for the year to come! (NT) -- Cece, 11:53:27 08/08/09 Sat
- Belated Happy Harmy Birthday, CLR. Looks like Harm has been looking for you! (NT) -- Lee, 12:52:19 08/08/09 Sat
- Belated Happy Birthday, clr! Best wishes for a great year. (NT) -- Araninda, 13:06:23 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Belated Birthday. (NT) -- Hope, 13:27:59 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Belated Birthday CLR, hope you had a wonderful day. (NT) -- usmgrad, 13:39:54 08/08/09 Sat
- Hope your birthday was great, CLR. I guess Harm's been busy! (NT) -- Deemus, 13:59:11 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Belated CLR...hope it was a fantastic day. (NT) -- Christa, 15:28:52 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Harmy Birthday to you too! Now you ladies play nice with our Harmy. We need to spread him around as much as possible. LOL!! (NT) -- Cathy F. Oy what a spreading there would be!, 16:23:07 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy birthday, CLR! Enjoy your time with Harm! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 16:41:42 08/08/09 Sat
- Belated Happy Birthday wishes, CLR!! Hope all your Harmy wishes come true. (NT) -- jenks, 17:51:00 08/08/09 Sat
- Hope it was a happy and that you have a great year! (NT) -- jan, 21:10:55 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Birthday and have a great day with Harm. (NT) -- Dani R, 21:18:44 08/08/09 Sat
- CLR, Happy Harmy Birthday! (NT) -- Sunset, 21:19:35 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Birthday! Hope you had a wonderful day! (NT) -- lisa, 23:35:18 08/08/09 Sat
- Happy Birthday,CLR (NT) -- ivyb uk, 03:53:50 08/09/09 Sun
- Happy Harmy Day, clr!!! (NT) -- doc, 11:33:45 08/09/09 Sun
- CLR Hope YOU wern't late for your date with Harm? (NT) -- Michelle UK, 14:35:36 08/09/09 Sun
- Happy Belated Birthday, CLR. I hope you enjoyed your day gazing into Harm's beautiful eyes. (NT) -- jagfannj, 15:49:30 08/09/09 Sun
- Happy belated birthday CLR hope you enjoyed your day (NT) -- Bev uk, 16:51:07 08/09/09 Sun
- I am like a turtle these days but with all my heart Happy Birthday (NT) -- GRa waving from Argentina, 19:35:01 08/09/09 Sun
- Happy HarmyDay, clr! (NT) -- judi, 00:51:28 08/10/09 Mon
- Hope you had fun with Harm on your special day, CLR! (NT) -- Irishrainy, 05:45:08 08/10/09 Mon
- Belated birthday wishes!!! (NT) -- tamk3, 09:47:23 08/10/09 Mon
- Oh it's Irish Harm-- belated Happy Harmy day, clr! (NT) -- manette, 16:52:08 08/10/09 Mon
- Hope you have a very Harmy Birthday CLR! (NT) -- sj, 21:34:17 08/12/09 Wed
Rerun Episodes of the Week – To Russia With Love & Gypsy Eyes -- ,,,,,, 23:50:59 08/05/09 Wed
Our Rerun EOTW is the Season 3 finale "To Russia With Love” and the Season 4 premiere episode "Gypsy Eyes”. In the first part, TRWL, Harm discovers that his father was taken to Russia after his plane was shot down over Vietnam. Harm and Mac journey to Moscow to investigate and meet a cab driver Alexei who helps them procure a MIG to travel to Harm’s father’s last known location.

In the second part, Gypsy Eyes, AJ, refusing to believe KGB accounts that say Harm and Mac died in an air accident, flies to Moscow to begin his own investigation. Harm and Mac survive being shot down and continue their search for Harm's MIA father. With the help of a gypsy brother and sister, they elude capture by a KGB search party and Harm finally learns what happened to his father.

1) Using our ratings scale of 0 to 5, with 5 being great, how do you rate this episode and why? Many fans have said this episode is “classic” JAG. Do you agree and if so, what makes it classic?

2) TRWL is the first of three appearances on the show of Harm’s mother, Trish. “How’s Mac?” “She’s fine, I guess.” “She’s really quite the girl.” “Don’t start, Mom.” What had Harm been saying about Mac to his mother? Or do you think Trish and Mac had met by this point? Did Trish think he was in love with Mac or was she simply trying to encourage him to settle down in a relationship? How well do you think Trish really knew her son’s emotions?

3) This episode is the only time that Frank, Harm’s stepfather, appeared in the series. How would you describe Frank and Trish’s marriage? Were they generally happy? What was Harm’s relationship with his stepfather? Why did Harm never seem to mend fences with Frank?

4) Why did Mac take the sexy lingerie to Russia? Was that her normal sleepwear or was she hoping to entice Harm?

5) Mac makes reference in Gypsy Eyes to Harm’s acting on his emotions. Why did Harm act on his emotions in certain areas of his life, yet not in other areas (for example, his feelings toward Mac)? Also, Harm experiences deep emotions at the end of this episode as he learns his father’s fate. What do you think happened next? Did he and Mac leave or did they stay with the Russian woman? Did Mac comfort him or did Harm quickly regain control of his emotions?

6) Should Harm’s father have died in the manner he did, or should the writers have scripted another ending? Should Harm have found his father’s gravesite? Or should Harm Sr. have been found alive?

Please post your thoughts on this powerful and dramatic episode.

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- 1) Definitely a 5. These 2 episodes are classic JAG because we have Harm and Mac working together to solve the case, we have AJ being the admiral who won't leave anyone behind evne though he had gotten on Harm's case about not telling him why he was going to San Diego in the beginning, and we have Webb being classic Webb - helpful when he could be, but always self-serving, using Harm and Mac to help him solve *his* case - even if they didn't know it. Inside for more... -- Ann, 00:33:08 08/06/09 Thu
- (NT) -- Hope, 06:19:42 08/06/09 Thu
  - GREAT smile!! *aaahhhh!!* What a cutie! Just wanna jump his bones! (NT) -- The Chief, 20:52:53 08/06/09 Thu
- For more screen caps from To Russia With Love Click Here and For more screen caps from Gypsy Eyes Click Here (NT) -- Hope, 06:20:55 08/06/09 Thu
- Both episodes are 5s. What's not to love? Harm's whole life has been fueled by the need to find his father, and Mac is going to help him whether he admits he needs it or not. -- manette, 18:53:58 08/06/09 Thu
  - Ditto to everything that manette said!! I've had unexpected company for the last 4 days. My life is so far behind, that I'm not sure I'll ever catch-up. Thanks Araninda for continuing to do the EOTW. Even if I don't have time to post, I always peruse the thread. (NT) -- doc, 11:39:19 08/09/09 Sun
- This pair is definitely Classic JAG and worthy of a 5. The goodbye scene alone makes it a 10. Inside... -- Christa, 21:43:00 08/06/09 Thu
- I'll be the bad guy and say it was a 4+. The reason I don't give it a 5 is because I hate the Russia storyline. It never makes sense to me, especially after Sergei shows up. We have this emotional scene and Harm meeting this (IMO) really old lady and I'm supposed to believe that she realizes Harm came all this way, she has his half brother but doesn't tell him. -- TH, 00:12:46 08/07/09 Fri
  - LOL and GRABB for your #4 answer and the Manly Arms! (NT) -- Araninda, 01:16:34 08/07/09 Fri
- Please post your thoughts on these episodes. I realize some of our EOTWs are difficult to remember, but surely these episodes are memorable. . . .and worth discussing one more time. You don't have to answer the questions, just post comments on the episodes. (NT) -- Araninda, 17:08:47 08/07/09 Fri
- I give these episodes a 5 as they were classic JAG. But I have some things I'd love to have changed. (Inside) -- Cece, 20:25:15 08/07/09 Fri
- These eps are 5's, because yes they are classic. They had excitement, mystery, adventure, drama, humor, and even a little romance. All the things we expected from JAG. Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 16:40:41 08/08/09 Sat
- Definitely a 5 because of the drama, the twist, the actions, a caring AJ, the friendship and trust between Harm & Mac, the emotional story arc with memorable scenes that were brought to life by the fine acting of DJE & CB. (inside) -- Sunset, 21:10:36 08/08/09 Sat
- Definitely a 5+ for each episode - two of my very favorite episodes. Classic JAG for drama and the way it played out, the chemistry, the memorable scenes and lines. Inside. -- jan, 19:00:27 08/09/09 Sun
- I'll give both of these episodes a 5 as well. Harm has spent much of his life being driven by an obsession to find his father or to find out what happened to him. These episodes bring that search to a close, and I think that ending this search leaves Harm adrift for a while. The scene in Harm's office in the following episode when he takes off the MIA bracelet really symbolizes the end of that part of his life and always makes me cry. (NT) -- Lee, 21:19:22 08/10/09 Mon
Episode of the Week – Voting Time! -- ,,,,,,, 16:49:56 08/09/09 Sun
We’re back to our regular rotation with this week’s EOTW from Season 6. This was a turbulent emotional season in which Harm learns of the existence of a half-brother, Bud and Harriett lose their baby, and Mac and Brumby become engaged.

Seven episodes remain and your choices are: 1) Florida Straits 2) Flight Risk 3) Collision Course 4) Killer Instinct 5) Valor 6) Liberty 7) Salvation

The voting period will last until Monday mid-morning eastern time. Summaries are posted as an inside response to this thread. Please vote!

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- Inside for Season 6 episode summaries -- ,,,,,,, 16:52:49 08/09/09 Sun
  - Killer Instinct. Bud was great in this one. (NT) -- Deemus, 19:08:58 08/09/09 Sun
  - Valor (NT) -- doc, 19:47:30 08/09/09 Sun
- Valor - Loved the interaction between Harm and Mac. (NT) -- Lois, 17:22:48 08/09/09 Sun
- Killer Instinct (NT) -- Christa, 19:39:36 08/09/09 Sun
- Florida Straits. Love the little INS lady! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 21:06:11 08/09/09 Sun
  - I think that little INS lady is one of the most memorable characters despite her brief appearance - and if not for the 'never mind' comment - she probably wouldn't be remembered at all. lol. I wonder - when it comes to Harm - is there such a thing as too married? LOL (NT) -- chris k, 11:42:13 08/10/09 Mon
    - Didn't we make her an honorary Harmy Broad? If we didn't, we should! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 17:33:25 08/10/09 Mon
  - This gets my vote also, for all the reasons already stated. Gotta love that spunky little INS lady! (NT) -- jagfannj, 20:44:59 08/10/09 Mon
- Liberty! My favorite "B" story line. (NT) -- jan, 23:42:16 08/09/09 Sun
- Valor (NT) -- Irishrainy, 05:42:34 08/10/09 Mon
- Killer Instinct (NT) -- Maja, 08:09:19 08/10/09 Mon
- Voting is over. We had a tie. . .so in the best tradition of JAG decison-making, a coin was flipped. Our EOTW will be "Valor". (NT) -- Araninda, 13:16:32 08/10/09 Mon
There are TWO bd posts, so please scroll down the board. -- Cece, 12:07:59 08/08/09 Sat
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Birthday posts at the Friends Board. -- Cece, 00:27:52 08/08/09 Sat
We are updating the Birthday Post at the Friends Board. I've kept the names of the people I know are posters, but I might have accidentally deleted names of current posters.

Please don't feel insulted. Making changes at the Owners login, is not an exact science. Neither is my memory!!!

So will everyone go over to the FB and put your bd date in the right spot. I'll post a link at the top of the HB so that we get as many posters bds as possible.

Thankyou.

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- since it's a new year...how about considering again the frequency of b-day wishes....It just seems like a burden for our favorite bananas to do individual b-day wishes/posts....Again should you consider monthly birthday posts....Save alot of time and energy for the poor moderators or birthday patrol....Maybe you should think about it...try it for a year??? (NT) -- Just thinking about the fact that all of us have no time..., 02:27:52 08/08/09 Sat
  - We've tried the monthly group posts, but they didn't go over very well. It's not a chore when we have the full birthday post team taking turns. (Cece, Araninda, Theresa, Hope, and Colie.) (NT) -- Cece, 12:06:30 08/08/09 Sat
Birthdays for this month? -- Theresa, 21:01:21 08/07/09 Fri
Am I falling down on the job? I don't have the birthday posts for this month do I? Who's got it covered if it's not supposed to be me?

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- I've been doing them more or less since May. But ACCCKKKK....I see we missed some bds.! (NT) -- Cece (who is getting over a mouse in the basement.), 21:31:45 08/07/09 Fri
  - Theresa, email me pls. Not certain I have your current addy. (NT) -- Cece, 21:36:49 08/07/09 Fri
  - According to my schedule, June ended the year's rotation. I think we just haven't had a "sign up" yet for those of us doing the collages for the coming year. Cece - could we start a new birthday thread on the Friends board? A lot of the names on the current thread no longer post on the board. (NT) -- Araninda, 22:13:48 08/07/09 Fri
    - Yes, that would be a good idea. Judi is out tonight at a Rod Stewart concert. I'll get her to start one tomorrow. Earlier on, someone suggested that we have a new Getting to know you post as well. (NT) -- Cece, 00:00:25 08/08/09 Sat
Please go over to the LifeStyles board. mkim is in the hospital and needs our thoughts and prayers. -- judi, 01:45:36 08/07/09 Fri
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I just saw the following headline on MSNBC - "Study: Aussies make least attractive husbands". (No offense to our Australian friends), but it made me laugh as I thought - I told Mac that years ago, at least regarding one particular Aussie! -- lisa, 23:17:41 08/05/09 Wed
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JAG Moment -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 23:21:22 08/04/09 Tue
Today at work I was processing some binder deposits on houses (I work for a real estate company) and I came across a name that made me laugh: Joe and Delana McKenzie. If only that "l" hadn't been in her name...

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- LOL! JAG is everywhere! (NT) -- Araninda, 00:17:47 08/05/09 Wed
- Had athey moved from Yuma AZ to where you live/work? (NT) -- jan, 22:24:01 08/05/09 Wed
  - LOL I didn't think to look at that. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 22:53:33 08/05/09 Wed
Rerun Episode of the Week – Voting Time! -- Araninda, 23:27:06 08/01/09 Sat
We are halfway through the EOTW rotation, so it's time to bring back a previous winning episode for a rerun discussion. For this week’s EOTW rerun, we're actually bringing back two previous winners, because our category is "Two-Part Episodes.”

Your ballot choices are: 1) JAG Pilot 2) To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes 3) King of the Greenie Board/Rules of Engagement 4) Boomerang 5) Legacy 6) Adrift 7) Dog Robber 8) A Tangled Webb 9) Hail and Farewell

Note: These are not all the two-part episodes in the series, just the ones that to date have been previous EOTW winners.

Voting will be open through Sunday, August 2nd. The discussion will begin on Tuesday evening. Summaries of these episodes are posted inside below. Please vote!

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- Episode summaries are posted inside. -- ,,,,,,, 23:29:05 08/01/09 Sat
- JAG The Pilot Those flirty gorgeous Harm and Kate set the screen alight my favourite partnership. JHMO! (NT) -- Michelle UK, 08:01:54 08/02/09 Sun
  - JMHO! (NT) -- Michelle UK, 08:06:41 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes (NT) -- Christa, 09:46:12 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia with Love/Gypsy Eyes. We've had at least 3 Mac-lite episodes lately. I'd like an EOTW, which allows us to discuss both of our JAG stars this time. (NT) -- doc, 10:22:14 08/02/09 Sun
- The Pilot. The more Harm the better! (NT) -- nancyeddy, 10:51:45 08/02/09 Sun
- JAG Pilot for me, too, but we have lots of good choices here. (NT) -- Deemus, 11:41:49 08/02/09 Sun
- Adrift (NT) -- manette, 12:41:36 08/02/09 Sun
- Gotta be Adrift. (NT) -- TH, 17:12:24 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia/Gypsy Eyes (NT) -- jan, 17:28:01 08/02/09 Sun
- Adrift (NT) -- Lois, 18:40:58 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes (NT) -- Jeanaz8, 20:53:57 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes (NT) -- Hope, 21:34:05 08/02/09 Sun
- Adrift. (NT) -- Cece, 22:56:34 08/02/09 Sun
- To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes for me. (NT) -- trooper, 23:09:37 08/02/09 Sun
- TRWL and GE for sure. And when we discuss it, we should include the scene in the hotel room where Harm is answering the door in those tight, whatevers with nothing on underneath. (NT) -- panting judi, 02:03:31 08/03/09 Mon
- Voting is over! No votes will be counted. Our Rerun EOTW will be "To Russia With Love/Gypsy Eyes". We'll start the discussion tomorrow evening. (NT) -- Araninda, 11:53:30 08/03/09 Mon
  - Discussion will start on Wednesday evening. (NT) -- Araninda, 23:26:17 08/04/09 Tue
- Dog Robber. I love this episode. Lots of Harm!! (NT) -- Cathy F., 12:59:06 08/03/09 Mon
Blue Monday! -- Naughty Araninda, 11:49:50 08/03/09 Mon
Blue Monday is here, a little late. No power, no internet connection. And Harm wanted to stay in bed. . .

Your captions and comments are encouraged. Remember, we're starting a new month for GRABBs. The July winner will be announced tomorrow.

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- Now if Mac were still here I wouldn't have to be hugging this pillow, even though it still has her scent! ARGH!!!! (NT) -- Christa, 12:06:29 08/03/09 Mon
- I must have been dreaming about Mac. Look at the bulge in my blanket!! (NT) -- Cathy F., 12:56:54 08/03/09 Mon
- Maybe I should get Mac into bed and then I won't have these night sweats thinking about her. (NT) -- jenks, 16:22:22 08/03/09 Mon
- Oooh feels good! But enough already with the feet. Time to move down.....er up. (NT) -- Ecec, 17:03:47 08/03/09 Mon
- C'mon Mac, hurry back, it's cold in here without you. (NT) -- Dani R, 17:33:23 08/03/09 Mon
- OH! Mac your like a soft feather pillow to cuddle. Awakes to find it's only a dream (NT) -- Michelle UK, 18:12:50 08/03/09 Mon
- Whew, I just had the worst nightmare...I was Captain Hook and that damned crocidile was after me...Thank goodness it was only a dream.....Agggh!! where's my hand!?!?! (NT) -- manette, 22:36:24 08/03/09 Mon
- Mac, don't look now, but I think there's a ninja on my six.... (NT) -- manette, 22:38:25 08/03/09 Mon
- Wait! Hold the presses!! The gorilla is kissing Harm's ass!! This picture is obviously a fake. (NT) -- manette, 23:03:18 08/03/09 Mon
  - LOL - it's hard for the gorilla to kiss ass when his head was alway so far up his own - LOL. (NT) -- chris k, 00:42:25 08/04/09 Tue
    - GRABB! (NT) -- Cece, 03:20:06 08/04/09 Tue
- Tickle, tickle. (NT) -- Lee, 23:18:35 08/03/09 Mon
- "When I want you in my arms, when I want you with all your charms, whenever I want you, all I have to do is dream." As soon as I saw this pix, I couldn't get these lyrics out of my head. (With apologies to the Everly Brothers, Roy Orbison & anyone else who recorded this song). (NT) -- Araninda, 00:24:47 08/04/09 Tue
- Am I having a nightmare? I feel that I am under scrutiny of many pairs of eyes! (NT) -- Sunset, 00:42:35 08/04/09 Tue
  - GRABB (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 06:43:17 08/04/09 Tue
  - Definitely a GRABB! Good one, Sunset. (NT) -- Araninda, 11:17:41 08/04/09 Tue
- Uh Mac, if that's your hand, He's a little lower. (NT) -- usmgrad, 07:38:57 08/04/09 Tue
  - Speaking of hands, where IS his other hand? Enquiring dirty minds need to know. (NT) -- Ecec, 14:21:24 08/04/09 Tue
- I'd imagine it's something to do with the bulging cover? LOL (NT) -- Michelle UK, 16:03:30 08/04/09 Tue
  - I've been wondering when someone on the board would take a very close look at this pix. . .and realize it's bluer than at first glance, LOL! (NT) -- Araninda, 17:28:02 08/04/09 Tue
    - Very true...it is much bluer than one might think. (NT) -- Christa, 17:52:15 08/04/09 Tue
Christa....My apologies, blush, blush. I've saved your post for your real birthday! -- Cece, 16:59:05 08/04/09 Tue
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- Thanks Cece! (NT) -- Christa, 17:50:49 08/04/09 Tue
I'm selling off some of my Harm/DJE collection on eBay to pay medical bills. If anyone is interested. Cece I wasn't sure if I should post this. If not please remove. -- Cathy F., 14:06:59 08/03/09 Mon
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What They Should Have Said. . . -- Araninda, 11:58:10 07/31/09 Fri
Let's see if we can liven up the board with our "What They Should Have Said" game. Here's a line from the show, and you get to rewrite the response. You can be serious, silly or blue in your response. And remember, today is the last day for the July GRABB award. Winner to be announced next week. Tomorrow we start a new GRABB month, LOL!

Today's line, from Season 4's "Embassy". At the end of the episode, as Harm and Mac are walking out arm-in-arm, Harm says to Mac: "We should go out together more often."

Mac responded with: "Yeah, I had a wonderful time."

But what she should have said was ______________________ (you fill in the blank.)

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- Maybe we should stay in together instead. (NT) -- trooper, 12:26:38 07/31/09 Fri
- Anywhere, anytime, partner! (NT) -- PeggyC, 12:52:55 07/31/09 Fri
- Must be the lawyer in you. We're not in a courtroom, but this is a brilliant observation, Rabb, absolutely brilliant! (NT) -- jenks, 13:59:28 07/31/09 Fri
- Yeah pick the time and place and i am so there. (NT) -- Bev uk, 14:15:40 07/31/09 Fri
- and I'm not ready for the evening to end. What do you say we take this back to your place? (NT) -- Christa, 15:17:12 07/31/09 Fri
- About time you asked! (NT) -- doc, 15:53:01 07/31/09 Fri
- I agree. When? (NT) -- Ann, 18:16:53 07/31/09 Fri
- But don't get any ideas from Webb and let's leave the crazy foreign terrorist out of it, o.k.? (NT) -- bama, 18:32:40 07/31/09 Fri
- I can think of a few other things we should do together, too. (NT) -- trooper, 19:07:04 07/31/09 Fri
- Mac didn't say anything.... -- MarilynM, 19:53:35 07/31/09 Fri
  - forgot to say "inside" (NT) -- MarilynM, 19:54:18 07/31/09 Fri
- I agree, but I would prefer a different kind of excitement. (NT) -- Lee, 23:19:43 07/31/09 Fri
- Yeah, but we'll have to get rid of the gorilla over there first. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 15:54:29 08/01/09 Sat
  - GRABB! Good one, JJ. (NT) -- Araninda, 16:27:42 08/01/09 Sat
  - I second Araninda's GRABB! (NT) -- Christa, 17:20:56 08/01/09 Sat
- How about we stay in bed together more often Oops! (NT) -- Michelle UK, 18:12:38 08/01/09 Sat
- Okay, but next time you're the one who get their clothes torn halfway off... (NT) -- manette, 18:55:29 08/01/09 Sat
- Ya think? (NT) -- Cece, 23:20:06 08/01/09 Sat
- I think Harm you should "come in" more often!! (NT) -- Cathy F., 13:02:03 08/03/09 Mon
Episode of the Week – Body Talk -- Araninda, 21:38:07 07/28/09 Tue
Our EOTW is Season 5’s "Body Talk”. No, the title doesn’t relate to the Blue Monday pix below, LOL! Harm gains a new trial for a Navy officer convicted 10 years ago for murdering his wife, but unexpectedly incurs the wrath of the victim's daughter, his friend Lt. Cmdr. Teresa Coulter. Harm feels that the original trial attorney didn't dig deep enough into the case and as he pursues the investigation a new picture begins to develop of what happened that fateful day.

1) How do you rate this episode and why? What makes this episode worth rewatching?

2) In the beginning of the episode, Harm informs Teresa that he didn’t know Captain Chaddock (the convicted officer) was her father. If Harm had known this information in advance, would he have taken the case? Would his approach have been different? What would have been Harm’s reaction if Teresa had ended their friendship over the case as she threatened to do?

3) Captain Chaddock tells Harm that he isn’t worried about a conflict of interest because of Harm’s friendship with Teresa, saying: “you’re a principled man, Commander. If anything, you’ll overcompensate”.    Did Harm tend to overcompensate when his professional work spilled over into his personal life? Did he overcompensate in this case?

4) The episode makes clear that Teresa was Harm’s friend, yet at the end, Mac is the one who encourages Teresa to forgive her father. We know TPTB’s attitude toward females in the show, but let’s instead look at the “reel life” of these characters. Why was Teresa not Mac’s friend? Can you envision Teresa and Mac as close friends?

5) Early in the episode, Mac comments to Harm that she heard his client’s daughter was Lt. Commander Coulter. Harm replies: “It’s one of those moments where two lives intersect and there’s not a traffic light in sight.”     What did Harm mean by that remark? Does the remark also apply to his relationship with Mac?

6) Harm and Sydney Walden meet in this episode, with Dr. Walden saying: “I understand you’re seeing someone. Maybe the four of us can socialize at some point.”    They do socialize at the surface warfare ball, but if just the four of them (AJ and Sydney, Harm and Rene) had gone out on a double date, how would the evening have been? What would they have done and would they have enjoyed themselves?

Please, everyone, post your thoughts.

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- 1. I give it a 4. 2. Had Harm known about the relationship between Coulter and Chaddock, he probably would have tried to pass the case off to Bud or Mac. At the least, he and AJ would have had a discussion about it . 3. Yes, he overcompensated. He overcompensated by letting the 800 lb gorilla into the room. He did make simple things complicated, in part, because of all the "principles" he manufactured. (inside) -- TH, 09:14:10 07/29/09 Wed
- I would rate it as a 4 as well. It was one of those character episodes that showed Harm's determination to get at the truth. Inside -- Christa, 10:39:26 07/29/09 Wed
- I give it a 5. I thought it showed Harm's commitment to the truth. No Mac and Teresa would never be friends. I think both knew that they each wanted Harm. I could never see AJ, Sidney, Harm and Rene on a double date. Rene would not have fit in. I don't want to say she was shallow, just not military savy. (NT) -- Cathy F., 00:27:33 07/30/09 Thu
- well it looks like most of us don't remember this ep - I do remember not minding it so much - and I really enjoyed the eps when Terri came to visit - But I'm thinking because I don't remember much about this - I'm only going to give it a 3 - I clearly didn't hate it - but It didn't make much of an impression on me. As for double dating with AJ - don't see it happening. too much of a rank difference (NT) -- chris k, 10:16:55 07/31/09 Fri
- Just to let everyone know that Spudz isn't feeling well this week, so no screencaps for the episode. Hopefully she will be back with us next week. But please post your thoughts. This episode won by a big number of votes, so someone out there voted for it (or maybe it was just the title, LOL). (NT) -- Araninda, 10:54:59 07/31/09 Fri
  - I'm at work now, but I'll post my thoughts tonight or tomorrow. I've just been really busy this week. I should have time this weekend and I have every intention of posting. I haven't missed an EOTW yet and I'm not going to start missing now. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 11:39:11 07/31/09 Fri
    - Thanks, JJ. (NT) -- Araninda, 11:55:16 07/31/09 Fri
- This was pretty good, but not really memorable for me, so I'll give it a 4. (inside) -- Deemus, 11:57:01 07/31/09 Fri
- I give it a 3.5. It was a decent episode, but not spectacular. (inside) -- doc, 17:33:44 07/31/09 Fri
  - Nicely put, doc. I agree with your take on things. However, I would give it a little higher rating of 4. (NT) -- Lee, 23:14:49 07/31/09 Fri
- 3.5 It was good, but not one of my favorites. (I think I've been saying that every week! LOL Oh well.) I always enjoyed seeing Teresa Coulter. I don't know why. I just liked her for some reason. Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 21:27:23 08/01/09 Sat
- I think a 3 - an okay ep but certainly not a favorite, though I enjoyed every ep Trisha Yearwood was in. Inside. -- jan, 18:02:14 08/02/09 Sun
Blue Monday! -- Naughty Araninda, 02:47:49 07/27/09 Mon
It's Blue Monday! But "blue" does not mean sad here on the HB. It means that Harm is here to get us going for the week.

Your captions and comments are welcome. Be as creative as you wish.

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- Do you think I need a new tailor? (NT) -- Katiegirl, 05:46:54 07/27/09 Mon
- On my six!!! (NT) -- ivyb uk, 07:05:45 07/27/09 Mon
  - Well, if you insist... (NT) -- adnoR (JJ), 08:02:59 07/27/09 Mon
    - Oh, yeah. . .stick to my six! LOL. (NT) -- Araninda, 11:41:41 07/27/09 Mon
- Boxers, or briefs? No, definitely commando! (NT) -- usmgrad, 07:33:52 07/27/09 Mon
- Oh soooooo fine! (NT) -- Christa (a very droolworthy view), 08:55:33 07/27/09 Mon
- What a way to bring up the Rear! (NT) -- Angela -- Mommy of 2 JAGLettes, 09:22:47 07/27/09 Mon
- Mac, does this cut make my six look big? (NT) -- Harm, 10:48:43 07/27/09 Mon
- Baked buns NEVER looked THIS good and SO yummy!! (NT) -- jenks, 10:51:54 07/27/09 Mon
  - GRABB (NT) -- Christa, 10:59:17 07/27/09 Mon
- Mmmm....Commando Harm! Sir YES Sir! Semper Fiiiiiiiiine! (NT) -- Ecec, 11:11:03 07/27/09 Mon
  - LOL! GRABB! (NT) -- Theresa, 14:53:40 08/01/09 Sat
- You put your left hip in, You put your left hip, You put your left hip in and you shake it all about... (NT) -- manette- doing the hokey pokey with Harm..., 11:23:46 07/27/09 Mon
  - I don't know about the hokey but I'm willing to consider the pokey- : ) (NT) -- chris k, 11:30:35 07/27/09 Mon
    - GRABB for the pokey! LOL! (NT) -- Araninda, 12:06:23 07/27/09 Mon
    - GRABB! I'd like to GRAB something, all right, but it has nothing to do with GRABB! (NT) -- Lee, 12:06:45 07/27/09 Mon
    - GRABB!! Grabb the Rabb!! Pokey made me laugh - Thanks (NT) -- jbk, 16:09:50 07/27/09 Mon
- Does my butt look big in these pants? (NT) -- tamk3, 12:02:08 07/27/09 Mon
- Harm has very dark hair...I don't think commando is an option!!!!! (NT) -- MarilynM, 13:32:24 07/27/09 Mon
- Quoting Cat Grant from "The Adventures of Lois and Clark" - Who's the new tight end? (NT) -- Ann, 15:29:52 07/27/09 Mon
  - That was such a great line! And so appropriate here! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 23:35:38 07/27/09 Mon
- I'm too sexy for my pants, too sexy for my pants...... (NT) -- TF, 20:09:48 07/27/09 Mon
- 40 yrs after man first landed on the moon, I'd love to land on Harm's moon. (NT) -- Ecec, 23:07:05 07/27/09 Mon
  - I'd love a piece of moon pie right now... (NT) -- adnoR (JJ), 23:34:59 07/27/09 Mon
- No Buts about it. Harm has a great Butt! I'd like to squeeze those hot buns! (NT) -- Cathy F., 03:30:20 07/28/09 Tue
- It's nice to see Harm smiling...... (NT) -- Cece, 11:46:42 07/28/09 Tue
- Hot cross buns, hot cross buns! One a penny, two a penny, hot cross buns! Any takers? (NT) -- Lee, 12:00:53 07/28/09 Tue
- Hey Commando GRABB A*SE! (NT) -- Michelle UK, 14:53:32 07/28/09 Tue
- How does that old song go???" I'm just looking for some tush" Harmy tush!!!!! Kinda gives the song a whole different meaning...doesnt it???? (NT) -- mkim with apologies to ZZ-Top, 19:49:33 07/28/09 Tue
- I give this SIX a TEN! (NT) -- Cece, suddenly liking math., 11:13:54 07/29/09 Wed
What They Should Have Said. . . -- Araninda, 00:28:10 07/17/09 Fri
This is a new activity on the HB called "What They Should Have Said". We'll post a line or two from the show and you get to rewrite what should have been said in response to the line. You can be either serious, silly or very blue in your response. Let's have some fun with this!

Here's today's line, from Season 8's "In Thin Air". Harm said to Mac: "Do I give you nightmares?"

Mac responded with "Just be safe up there, Harm."

But what she should have said was _________________ (you fill in the blank.)

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- You're not in my nightmares. You're the center of my erotic dreams. (NT) -- fananicfan, 00:40:35 07/17/09 Fri
- No, you give me day dreams and night sweats (NT) -- TH, 01:00:41 07/17/09 Fri
- No, but you give the judges nightmares. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda)--Yeah, I know it's lame, I'm not awake yet., 06:48:10 07/17/09 Fri
- Yes, and what makes them worse is you're not there to hold me and chase them away. (NT) -- usmgrad, 07:26:43 07/17/09 Fri
- Why don't you come over tonight and find out? (NT) -- usmgrad, 07:46:00 07/17/09 Fri
- No, sweet cheeks, NEVER nightmares. (NT) -- jenks, 09:02:23 07/17/09 Fri
  - ROFL - I like that one - Sweet Cheeks - : ) - he does have 'em doesn't he - : ) (NT) -- chris k, 09:54:13 07/17/09 Fri
    - Oh yeah, chris k, beautiful sweet cheeks, buns, if one would like to rephrase. (NT) -- jenks, 13:01:51 07/17/09 Fri
  - GRABB for the sweet cheeks. . . .oh, yeah, definitely, grabb those sweet cheeks! LOL! (NT) -- Araninda, 09:08:06 07/18/09 Sat
- Nightmares, no.... - - - she would have had to say this with a smirk and sultry voice and with one eyebrow raised. (NT) -- tamk3, 10:22:18 07/17/09 Fri
- "Not nightmares. Sweet dreams, deffinately sweet dreams flyboy!" (NT) -- TF, 10:55:06 07/17/09 Fri
- The only nightmare I have is that we will never be together making Hot Monkey Sex! (NT) -- Cathy F., 11:55:20 07/17/09 Fri
- I don't think you have the stamina to handle what you give me. (NT) -- Lee, 12:00:51 07/17/09 Fri
  - GRABB (NT) -- Christa, 17:13:46 07/17/09 Fri
- No, but lots and lots of very hot and steamy fantasies. (she leans in close to his ear and says in her most sultry voice...) let me share them with you! (NT) -- Christa, 17:16:16 07/17/09 Fri
- Nightmares? That's much too tame. I call them nightstallions. (NT) -- manette, 18:00:28 07/17/09 Fri
  - GRABB! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 19:15:00 07/17/09 Fri
  - LOL! GRABB! (NT) -- Araninda, 21:27:19 07/17/09 Fri
  - ROTFL! GRABB! (NT) -- Lee, 22:32:44 07/17/09 Fri
  - GRABB, manette! (NT) -- mkim, 02:17:57 07/18/09 Sat
  - GRABB again! ROTFLOLOLOL!!! That's gotta be one of the best lines on this board, ever! (NT) -- The Chief (leave it to manette!), 20:06:24 07/31/09 Fri
Blue Monday! -- Naughty Araninda, 01:06:45 07/20/09 Mon
Yes, Monday has rolled around again. And Harm is here to get us going to face the week ahead. It's a "Blue Monday", but we're definitely not sad!

Your captions and comments are encouraged. Be as creative as you wish. Sorry that the photo quality isn't good, but the angle is mighty interesting.

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- There's going to be a hot time in the old jeans tonight! (NT) -- Lee, 01:30:28 07/20/09 Mon
  - ROFL! GRABB! (NT) -- Araninda, 09:52:48 07/20/09 Mon
- Come on let me light your fire... (NT) -- Christa, 08:47:28 07/20/09 Mon
- Harm is Hot (NT) -- manette, 09:37:17 07/20/09 Mon
- This gives a whole new meaning to pillar of the community. (NT) -- manette, 10:06:47 07/20/09 Mon
  - ROFL - Glad I'd put my drink down before I peeke - LOL - I guess he's definitely up for community service - (NT) -- chris k, 10:44:43 07/20/09 Mon
    - Oh yes definitely UP to service! (NT) -- jerseygirl353~, 11:51:55 07/20/09 Mon
- Chestnuts roasting on an open fire... (NT) -- manette, 10:07:25 07/20/09 Mon
  - GRABB!!! LOL!!! (NT) -- tamk3, 12:03:46 07/20/09 Mon
  - GRABB! (NT) -- Christa, 13:23:13 07/20/09 Mon
- "Go into the light...There is 'piece' in the light.... (NT) -- Greta (soory if this is too blue...), 10:24:26 07/20/09 Mon
  - GRABB!!! ROTFLOL! (NT) -- MizChief (oh, yeah, I'm thinkin' "grabb" for sure!!), 20:04:11 07/31/09 Fri
- There's a fire down below!!!!! (NT) -- ivyb uk, 10:53:39 07/20/09 Mon
- You light up my life, you bring me hope.... (NT) -- TH, 11:06:13 07/20/09 Mon
- Oh, how you brighten my day, Harm (NT) -- jbk, 11:24:14 07/20/09 Mon
- Why are all these women staring at my candle? (NT) -- jerseygirl353, 11:49:59 07/20/09 Mon
  - LOL, I'll bet that's just what Harm's thinking! (NT) -- Lee, 20:52:38 07/20/09 Mon
- FIRE in the hole!!!! ahem... (NT) -- TF, 12:09:55 07/20/09 Mon
- Now make a wish and blow out the...... (NT) -- dirty mind...TF, 13:27:57 07/20/09 Mon
- You don't need to light My way, Harm! (NT) -- jenks, 16:18:01 07/20/09 Mon
- Watch it Harm, or CW will feel the *HEAT* (NT) -- Michelle UK, 17:00:15 07/20/09 Mon
- Oh boy tonight we play fireman! Where's the hose? (NT) -- usmgrad, 21:05:38 07/20/09 Mon
- This gives a whole new meaning to the Doors' 'Come on, baby, light my fire'! I haven't laughed this much in weeks!! Gosh, Harm looks great from any angle and even out-of-focus -- dang! (NT) -- mj, 21:28:32 07/20/09 Mon
- Can I just give a GRABB to everyone on this thread? I can't stop laughing! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 21:40:32 07/20/09 Mon
- Goodness, gracious, great balls of fire! (NT) -- adnoR (JJ), 23:10:45 07/20/09 Mon
  - LOL! GRABB! (NT) -- Araninda, 23:12:26 07/20/09 Mon
  - I second that GRABB! (NT) -- Cece, 23:21:56 07/20/09 Mon
- Quick! A forest fire! Save the big log! (NT) -- Ecec, 23:27:07 07/20/09 Mon
- Wow, when he said he'd leave the light on for me, I didn't realize that's what he meant! (NT) -- Mac, 12:01:40 07/21/09 Tue
  - ROFL! (NT) -- Araninda, 19:20:25 07/21/09 Tue
- Now that's what I call the Statue of Liberty! Just look at the size of that torch! (NT) -- Ecec, 14:39:24 07/21/09 Tue
- Hi guys.. I know I'm late,,, but I only want to say .. I love this board and coming here is getting a good laugh for the day.. I'm still giggeling after readin these posts... so thanks to all... (NT) -- Maya waving from Germany, 03:39:07 07/25/09 Sat
How many of you have read the book "He's Just Not That Into You?" It came out the fall before JAG ended, iirc. -- CM>^.,.^<, 16:23:21 07/27/09 Mon
The writer, a GUY, basically says that if a man really cares about a woman, NOTHING will keep him away.

A screwed up childhood, work related matters, she's dating another guy, just about anything other than "she's married, happily" is something the guy figures can be overcome.

Thinking about it seriously, I remember what CD and I did to be together. We lived 6000 miles--yes, you read that right--when we met. This was in the days before email and easy, cheap international phone calls. It took us over two years to live in the same STATE. But we managed it, and 30 years later, here we are.

So, was Harm just not that into Mac? Was he just not into a relationship that had the possibility of being forever? Was he Peter Pan like AJ said?

With 20/20 hindsight, I'm going with AJ. Until he was forced by circumstances beyond his control, Harm wasn't going to rock his somewhat comfortable boat to grab what might have been the brass ring. And all these years later, I still don't really understand why.

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- What the author says about most guys may be true, but Harm is another kind of guy, entirely. I think the way he tripped over his tongue(and a mighty fine tongue it is, too)was part of his charm, in the beginning, anyway. It got a little frustrating in the end, but I think it was only because the relationship was drug out by tptb. In a way, Harm didn't have to pursue Mac, he was with the woman he loved, every day, the one he trusted, shared his secrets, etc. -- mkim, 22:51:39 07/27/09 Mon
  - Forgot to say INSIDE for the above, so please click on the above post. (cringe) (NT) -- mkim, 22:53:59 07/27/09 Mon
  - ITA, he had his Mac with him everyday and what is it they say you sometimes don't see what is right in front of you. Towards the end, he did think that he had all the time in the world. Didn't he say on the porch at the dining out he was thinking of timing and in the last 7.5 he said he just needed a deadline. (NT) -- Dani R, 10:05:44 07/28/09 Tue
- If "he" is DPB and "you" is us shippers, then I buy it. :p (inside) -- lska, 02:50:20 07/28/09 Tue
- WOW! CM that's an interesting thought. I think Harm was really into Mac, but I think he was in that old take her for granted mode. As long as she wasn't seeing anyone else and their relationship/friendship was ok he was in his comfort zone. He only got defensive when someone tried to horn in on his territory(sp). He loved Mac but he always need that push. The thrill of the competion or the chase. (NT) -- Cathy F. please excuse my spelling. I'm the worst speller in the world., 03:26:01 07/28/09 Tue
- I look at the internal logic of the show v. logic of RL, to try to make any sense out of the characters. (Inside.) -- Cece, 03:36:41 07/28/09 Tue
- As best as I can remember the book and movie , Peter Pan, the "boy who never grew up" was "happy." Inside - I'm sure I'm over. -- jan, 08:28:48 07/28/09 Tue
  - IA that the Peter Pan analogy only holds for the first 6-7 seasons of the show. I didn't always love how the relationship was dragged out, but I did appreciate that the motivations for staying apart evolved throughout the series as the characters grew. (NT) -- lska, 02:14:17 07/29/09 Wed
- ITA with much of what's already been said. Harm was into Mac, she was right there and they built a strong friendship first which is why I think they will last. They weren't two ships that passed in the night and lived to regret it the next day. The regret would have come had they never admitted their love. (NT) -- Christa, 10:41:35 07/28/09 Tue
I had a question, but when I saw the picture this morning....I fogot what it was -- fananicfan, 10:49:44 07/27/09 Mon
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- The question -- fananicfan, 10:54:33 07/27/09 Mon
  - I'll respond inside. . . -- Araninda, 12:04:28 07/27/09 Mon
    - Thanks for your help! (NT) -- fananicfan, 11:30:30 07/28/09 Tue
I saw this article in the newspaper today -- How Blue M&M's may be good for you - as if we didn't already know that. already . -- MacToo, 04:58:03 07/28/09 Tue
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1202623/The-blue-M-M--A-magic-pill-spine-injuries.html

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- I TOLD YA! Now, go have some, stat! (NT) -- CM>^.,.^<, the blue M&M and other chocolacutical Rx-ing shippershrink, 06:16:07 07/28/09 Tue
And that Ladies is why I participate in the Harmy Board Football picks - the chance to bring up The Rear! -- usmgrad, 16:20:38 07/27/09 Mon
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- Well that was suppose to be below - down there, at the rear. You know what I mean. (NT) -- usmgrad -, 16:22:55 07/27/09 Mon
  - LOL, that gives new meaning to tight end in motion, don't it? (NT) -- CM>^.,.^<, 16:25:12 07/27/09 Mon
Is it Monday yet? -- usmgrad, 21:01:56 07/26/09 Sun
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- It's coming soon. . . (NT) -- Araninda, 23:50:04 07/26/09 Sun
Episode of the Week – Voting Time! -- Araninda, 22:49:20 07/24/09 Fri
Great discussion still continuing below about this week’s EOTW. Thank you! But we also need to start the voting for next week’s EOTW. We’ll be focusing next week on Season 5, with eight episodes yet to discuss, including a couple with controversial storylines and scenes. Interesting choices, so please vote.

Episodes remaining are: 1) Into the Breech 2) People v. Gunny 3) Promises 4) Drop Zone 5) The Witches of Gulfport 6) Overdue & Presumed Lost 7) Real Deal SEAL 8) Body Talk

The voting period will last for 24 hours from the time of this post. Discussion will begin either late Monday evening or Tuesday morning. Episode summaries are posted as an inside response to this thread.

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- Inside for Season 5 episode summaries -- ,,,,,,,, 22:51:22 07/24/09 Fri
- People v Gunny (NT) -- jan, 23:06:45 07/24/09 Fri
- Body Talk (NT) -- Katiegirl, 23:26:54 07/24/09 Fri
- People Vs. Gunny (NT) -- Lois, 23:43:25 07/24/09 Fri
- Body Talk (NT) -- Lee, 00:42:53 07/25/09 Sat
- Promises (NT) -- Theresa, 03:25:25 07/25/09 Sat
- Body Talk (NT) -- Christa, 08:43:18 07/25/09 Sat
- The Witches of Gulfport...JUST KIDDING!!! You can feel free to discuss that episode when I'm rolling in my grave, right along with any Pukovic heavy episodes...yuck!!! My choice for this round is Real Deal SEAL. (NT) -- doc, 08:45:14 07/25/09 Sat
- Body Talk. (NT) -- Cathy F., 08:59:26 07/25/09 Sat
- Body Talk (NT) -- tamk3, 11:34:29 07/25/09 Sat
- Body Talk (NT) -- TH singing, "Let me hear your body talk, body talk...", 13:31:25 07/25/09 Sat
- Body Talk. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 16:28:34 07/25/09 Sat
- Real Deal SEAL (NT) -- achaon, 20:47:54 07/25/09 Sat
- Voting has ended. No more votes will be counted. Our EOTW will be "Body Talk". Another episode in which Teresa Coulter plays a key role. Discussion will begin Monday evening or Tuesday. (NT) -- Araninda, 23:48:23 07/25/09 Sat
  - Speaking of Teresa Coulter- I went to the Chelsea vs Club America soccer game in the new Cowboy Stadium in Arlington today, and Trisha Yearwood and Garth Brooks did some kind of presentation thingy to someone before the game. It was too loud to hear anything but I could see them on the GINORMOUS SCREEN! (NT) -- manette, 22:32:50 07/26/09 Sun
Episode of the Week – Going After Francesca -- Araninda, 01:10:05 07/21/09 Tue
Our EOTW is Season 4’s "Going After Francesca”. After AJ’s daughter, Francesca, is kidnapped in Italy, Chegwidden meets with his ex-wife, Marcella and her husband, a wealthy Italian businessman, to get more background on Francesca's friends and enemies. Chegwidden learns that Francesca was seriously involved with the heir to a Mafia family -- a man Harm and Mac believe is responsible for the theft of Navy missiles for sale to Iran. All intelligence points to the fact that Francesca is caught in the middle of this business deal gone awry, and it's up to AJ and Harm to rescue her from the mob.

1) On our scale of 0 to 5 (with 5 being great), how do you rate this episode and why? What, if anything, makes this episode worth rewatching?

2) Marcella and AJ talk about their marriage, with Marcella saying he "looked good in dress whites and had a good heart.” But she couldn’t deal with his life as a SEAL. How you do envision their first meeting, their romance, their married life? Were they right for each other as young people? Should they have remarried after her husband died or since AJ’s retirement?

3) AJ pushes the envelope of military regulations in this episode, exercising “undue command influence” in interrogating Harm’s client, getting spy plane photos to locate his daughter, appropriating military weapons for personal use, and going in to rescue Francesca without waiting for the police. How does AJ’s behavior and actions compare with Harm’s in rescuing Mac in Paraguay? Why was AJ’s actions acceptable yet Harm’s was not? .

4) What involvement do you think AJ had in Francesca’s life as she grew up? Why did he allow her to be adopted by Paretti?

5) This is another episode in which Mac does not have a large role. How could her character have been used more effectively? Should she have participated in the rescue of Francesca?

Please post your thoughts!

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- (NT) -- spudz, 09:18:26 07/21/09 Tue
- to view screen caps from Going After Francesca, Please Click Here (NT) -- spudz, 09:20:24 07/21/09 Tue
  - Thank you Spudz! (NT) -- Araninda, 19:35:16 07/21/09 Tue
- Loved this episode, loved AJ & Marcella's story. Its a 5 for me. 2)I see their marriage as almost a fairy tale in the beginning, with neither of them understanding how AJ's experiences in Vietnam would change him. Marcella was probably a pampered girl, & she might have been AJ's pampered wife, if he hadnt had so much to deal with. I think they truly loved each other, and IMHO that makes them right for each other, but neither of them were mature enough to overcome the the gulf that the war placed between them. They DEFINITELY should have remarried, true love conquers all..for Pete's sake. -- mkim, 11:42:41 07/21/09 Tue
  - Oops!!! I forgot to add INSIDE for the rest... to the above post, so click on the above...sorry guys. (NT) -- mkim, 11:45:00 07/21/09 Tue
  - And like family they fought and made mistakes and when the tempers cooled down, they made things right. The writers shouldn't have done what they did with AJ in Season 9, but they did write them like family. (NT) -- Theresa, 12:05:34 07/21/09 Tue
- I rate this episode 4, for being exciting, seeing AJ and Harm work together in the field, seeing the passion that must have existed between AJ and Marcella when they were married. All good. (Inside). -- Cece, 14:34:16 07/21/09 Tue
  - I can see what youre saying on most of your points, except one. INSIDE: -- mkim, 21:20:15 07/21/09 Tue
  - I have a rather different take on the comparisions that are being made between this episode and the Paraguay arc. Inside. -- jan, 23:33:05 07/21/09 Tue
- I give it a 5. The strength of this episode is the "buddy mission" with AJ. It give such depth to their relationship. The writers did this several times with AJ and his subordinates, with Harriet a number of times , and with Bud. It was an AJ centric ep, but it shows the bond between Harm and AJ. 2 & 4. I LOVE the AJ / Marcella relationship. It's the classic story of young love thinking it can conquer everything being hit in the face with reality. Those of us who watch "Army Wives" see the same thing with Chase who is a member of Delta Force. When AJ was a SeAL, he could be called a (INSIDE) -- TH, 21:30:04 07/21/09 Tue
- I give it a 5. I love this episode. It's pure action/adventure JAG. I love the interaction between Harm and AJ. It's one of the few eps where AJ treats Harm as almost an equal (I guess because he was acting as an equal in this ep). Inside -- Ann, 21:54:45 07/21/09 Tue
  - I'm not totally at odds with everyone else about the Paraguay AJ. I do think that he was unforgiving in a way he would never have been in the past. He admitted he had been unreasonable, pigheaded, and unfair towards Harm. Then again, there were so many weird behaviours with Harm, AJ, and Mac before, during, and after Paraguay, that were never explained to the satisfaction of anybody. It really was a hatchet job on JAG, in my opinion. (NT) -- Cece, 13:43:28 07/22/09 Wed
- This is definitely a 5. AJ showed in this episode what he should have shown to Harm in the Paraguay arc. Inside -- Christa, 17:12:36 07/22/09 Wed
- I'm going to rate this at just a 3.5. It isn't one of the best eps as far as I'm concerned, but it certainly isn't one of the worst. I think that AJ did use undue command influence when he asked Harm to join him, not that Harm would have turned him down. In my 'what happened after JAG' fantasy, AJ and Marcella become close again and remarry when he goes to Italy to spend time with his daughter. I don't think there was anything more that Mac could have done in this story. (NT) -- Lee, 12:16:02 07/23/09 Thu
- I give this episode a 5. I loved it. Lots of Action. I won't get involved in the comparison to this episode and Paraguay because I think Seasons 9 & 10 were a complete waste of time. The characters were so out of character it was like watching a different show from the earlier shows. It's like comparing apples to oranges. (NT) -- Cathy F. Hi Jenks thanks for such a wonderful JAG lunch!!, 01:09:01 07/24/09 Fri
  - Thank you, too, Cath!! Even with JAG gone, we ALWAYS have a grand time. Think next month... (NT) -- jenks, 07:39:17 07/24/09 Fri
- I give it a 3.5. I loved the Harm-AJ camaraderie, but there was way too much of the whiny, manipulative Parettis! (inside) -- doc, 10:33:10 07/24/09 Fri
- I guess I'll give it a 3.5. It was a fun ep, but not among my favorites. I love the scene where Harm and AJ are getting ammunition. LOL Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 18:39:51 07/25/09 Sat
Has of October of 2009 yahoo is closing down ALL Geocities sites.. we need your help: If you have a site or a story posted on one of these sites please contact us, Amber from UTC is willing to take on these stories. Amber is willing to have TWO sites for JAG FanFic. her current one which is password protect and her New one which will be anything that isn't AO. Sevearl of us at Seekers are working on trying to SAVE as many of these wonderful stories has we can, but we need your HELP and PERMISSION to do it... So any help PLEASE...contact us -- Mary and Sherry from Treasure Seeker, 22:59:00 07/15/09 Wed
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- exactly what do you need permission to do? (NT) -- chris k, 23:54:03 07/15/09 Wed
  - ooppsss .. sorry we need permission to upload these stories (NT) -- Mary, 01:16:27 07/16/09 Thu
- OMG! I have hundreds of stories. I wonder what can be done on my end. I'll try to contact yahoo and see (NT) -- Theresa, 00:52:05 07/16/09 Thu
  - You mean you didn't know? I assumed that they would be contacting all the geocities site owners. Assuming it is true. If it's not true, then a WHOLE lot of people have been duped. LOL (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 06:42:16 07/16/09 Thu
    - they sent an email a few days ago to all site owners - the problem is - because those sites were free and required no updating from the owners - the ones that have been abandoned for up to a decade or more as writers lost interest in the show's direction - probably also don't have valid email addresses anymore - especially with all the constant changing of phone companies and cable email etc etc etc. (NT) -- chris k, 08:13:26 07/16/09 Thu
  - yahoo is offering a replacement site at a fee of $4.99 a month - Not likely most fanfic authors will be willing to go for that and I don't know of any other free hosting site- though I would think there must be some (NT) -- chris k, 08:15:54 07/16/09 Thu
    - Oh maybe it doesn't apply to me. I pay for my site. (NT) -- Theresa, 02:50:55 07/17/09 Fri
      - that could be - let us know if that's the case (NT) -- chris k, 09:55:03 07/17/09 Fri
- I am not an author, but if there is anything that I can do to help anyone, please let me know. (NT) -- Dani R, 10:45:11 07/16/09 Thu
- Theresa and Chris, if you give Mary, Sherry and Amber permission to copy and upload your stories, it would put them onto a second site as a backup, even if you stay with or move to the Geocities paid-for site. I know you each have some on ff.net, but not all. (NT) -- jan, 10:05:20 07/17/09 Fri
  - That's fine with me. They have my permission. (NT) -- Theresa, 13:33:24 07/18/09 Sat
- I have my HBX Fanfic web site, sitting there doing nothing. I absolutely don't mind any of our writers here achiving their stories free of charge. However, I would need help to figure out the best way to do that. I would like writers unknown to me, to have an HB reader's recommendation, so as not to invite really offfensive stuff. Email me if you think this will help. (NT) -- Cece, 15:28:57 07/18/09 Sat
- Fanfics -- Hawkeye, 06:36:10 07/24/09 Fri
Episode of the Week – Voting Time! -- Araninda, 22:45:10 07/17/09 Fri
Our EOTW for next week will come from Season 4 and we have nine episodes in that season remaining to discuss. The voting period begins now and will last through tomorrow (Saturday) with the discussion beginning on Monday or Tuesday.

Your choices are: 1) Innocence 2) Going After Francesca 3) Act of Terror 4) Mr. Rabb Goes to Washington 5) Dungaree Justice 6) War Stories 7) Rivers Run 8) The Adversaries 9) Soul Searching

Summaries are posted as an inside response to this thread. Please, everyone, vote!

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- Inside for Season 4 episode summaries -- ,,,,,,, 22:46:34 07/17/09 Fri
  - War Stories (NT) -- Katiegirl, 06:27:13 07/18/09 Sat
- River's Run (NT) -- Christa, 07:08:45 07/18/09 Sat
- Mr Rabb Goes to Washington. It's the "did they, didn't they" question...I say YES!!! (NT) -- doc, 08:36:57 07/18/09 Sat
- Innocence (NT) -- jan, 09:14:48 07/18/09 Sat
- River's Run (NT) -- Jeanaz8, 10:17:40 07/18/09 Sat
- Mr. Rabb goes to Washington (NT) -- Lee - I agree, doc. LOL, 10:23:59 07/18/09 Sat
- Innocense (NT) -- Lois, 12:53:20 07/18/09 Sat
- Going after Francesca! (NT) -- Theresa, 13:32:01 07/18/09 Sat
  - Okay. That's just weird. We voted for the same ep at the same time, except I was a few seconds later because I added a comment. (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 13:33:44 07/18/09 Sat
- Going After Francesca. Love the part about the firepower! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 13:32:28 07/18/09 Sat
- Soul Searching (NT) -- manette, 13:42:54 07/18/09 Sat
- Mr Rabb Goes To Washington. (NT) -- Michelle UK, 16:59:48 07/18/09 Sat
- Grrr! I love the final scene of Soul Searching, so I have to vote for "Going After Francesca". I love the scenes between AJ and Harm and also the AJ and Marcella scenes. (NT) -- TH, 18:26:22 07/18/09 Sat
- Going After Francesca. Love Harm and AJ in this episode. (NT) -- Angela -- Mommy of 2 JAGlettes, 19:20:32 07/18/09 Sat
- Mr Rabb Goes to Washington (NT) -- tamk3, 21:29:03 07/18/09 Sat
- Soul Searching hands down.Loved that ep. (NT) -- Brooke, 00:23:49 07/19/09 Sun
- Voting is over! Again there was a tie in the voting, so I flipped a coin. Our EOTW will be "Going After Francesca." Lots of AJ in this episode, and sexy Harm in tight clothes at the cabin. I'll try to post the discussion late Monday evening or Tuesday. (NT) -- Araninda, 10:13:34 07/19/09 Sun
- Going after Francesca. I love that episode. Harm and AJ are too funny. Love the line about "Don't you just ever want to blow the hell out of something" or something like that. (NT) -- Cathy F., 23:45:20 07/19/09 Sun
I'm watching a quilting programme on tv.One of the quilts is called "FLYBOY" -- ivyb uk, 14:08:51 07/17/09 Fri
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- Wow would love to wrap that one around me! (NT) -- Theresa, 19:24:11 07/17/09 Fri
  - It could keep you warm AND lead to splendiferous dreams. (NT) -- jan, 14:20:19 07/18/09 Sat
  - GRABB (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 15:19:28 07/18/09 Sat
Episode of the Week – The Return of Jimmy Blackhorse -- Araninda, 02:36:07 07/14/09 Tue
Our EOTW is Season 3’s "The Return of Jimmy Blackhorse.” Bodily remains are identified as those of a missing World War II Navajo code-talker, and the Pentagon makes plans to name a ship after the veteran. But a respected medicine woman contends that the remains are not her brother-in-law. Members of the JAG team encounter resistance from Jimmy’s twin brother and other Navajo tribal elders when they insist on DNA testing to verify the human remains.

1) How do you rate this episode and why? Do you think Harm and the Navy were taking the right action in insisting on DNA testing of the remains, or were they, as the tribal lawyer charged, simply playing politics in the naming of a ship?

2) In this episode, Harm says he has given up smoking cigars (although he takes up the habit again in season 10). Do you think this smoking habit was realistic for Harm’s character given his fitness routine and healthy lifestyle? How do you think Harm became addicted to cigars?

3) Teresa Coulter describes to Harm the difference in how members of the military approach life versus the Navaho tribe. She says that the Navaho rely on their beliefs while "you and I rely on discipline and good order.” Harm notes that he has a life outside the military, but Teresa counters that his apartment is probably immaculate, in good order. Was Teresa correct? How thoroughly was military discipline and good order ingrained into Harm’s life?

4) Teresa: "I wish I wasn’t so attracted to you.” Harm (surprised): "Excuse me?” Teresa: "It’s influencing me. I’m less comfortable with what I’m doing with you being here.” Harm: "Sorry Commander, I had no idea how you felt about me or this case.” Why was Harm so clueless about his appeal to women?

5) Teresa to Harm: "I just need you to back away so I can think clearly.” Assuming that Mac was not in the picture, could you envision Teresa and Harm as romantic partners? Did they have chemistry? Would a marriage between them been good for Harm?

6) IMO, Mac was underused in this episode and her scenes contributed nothing to the story resolution, perhaps being overshadowed by Teresa Coulter. Was this the only time in the series (other than "The Killer” in which she did not appear) that her character was inconsequential to the storyline? How could she have played a more important role in this episode?

Episode Notes – In the original CBS broadcast, the diner and the party scenes included songs by Trisha Yearwood (Teresa Coulter). However, because the show did not have the rights to these songs, different music was dubbed into the DVD release. Also, in the wedding preparations of Bud & Harriet, they mention two people who are never heard from again – Bud’s uncle and Harriet’s sister. Guess they disappeared with Bud’s sister Winnie. And finally. . .watch for CW in this episode, prominently coming to life in several of the scenes with Harm in peanut butters.

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- I love this episode and would definately rate it a 5. I think because of the undefined area of spirituality that they covered. (That's big for 11pm, isn't it?) I don't know that I agree with the DNA stance, but I certainly understand it. -- Katiegirl, 07:07:23 07/14/09 Tue
- to view screen caps of The Return of Jimmy Blackhorse, Please Click Here (NT) -- spudz, 07:33:18 07/14/09 Tue
  - Thanks, Spudz! (NT) -- Araninda, 09:55:52 07/14/09 Tue
- (NT) -- ,,,,,,,,,,,, 10:29:27 07/14/09 Tue
- I would give this episode a 5 as it tackled a very interesting point, whether or not you cross beliefs for the benefit of science. Inside -- Christa, 11:28:45 07/14/09 Tue
- I like this episode, and I'll give it a 4.5. I enjoyed the exposure to another culture, even though I realize it's done to suit the story and may not be totally accurate. (inside) -- Deemus, 12:26:03 07/14/09 Tue
- Great screen caps spudz!! Of course Harm wasn't always aware of how attractive he waws to omen. That's what made him attractive. We've all met the good looking men who "know" how hot they think they are, and that is a total turn off for me. (inside) -- Cece, 12:59:55 07/14/09 Tue
- Everytime I look at that pix above, I think. . .how could I work with that face inches from mine? His breath on my neck. . . .ok, cold shower needed. (NT) -- Araninda, 16:26:10 07/14/09 Tue
  - Aw, c'mon, Araninda...You know you'd love it!! (NT) -- jenks, 16:31:12 07/14/09 Tue
    - Love it, yes. Get work done, no. Actually I'd probably drool all over him. (NT) -- Araninda, 19:55:22 07/14/09 Tue
  - GRABB (NT) -- Christa, 16:53:14 07/14/09 Tue
- Can you imagine how GOOD he smelled that close to you? That Trisha Yearwood is so lucky! (NT) -- TH who is wishing she could sing so she could worm her way into HAE pictures., 18:33:34 07/14/09 Tue
- I would have been doing some DNA sampling but it would have had nothing to do with dead BONES. (NT) -- TF, 20:30:35 07/14/09 Tue
  - GRABB! (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 21:58:00 07/14/09 Tue
  - I'll second that GRABB (NT) -- Christa, 21:59:09 07/14/09 Tue
- This was one of those eps that was okay in it's context (time and place, where the show was at the time) but in seeing again just seems tired to me. I'd give it a 3, not great, not awful, just not all that interesting in retrospect. (NT) -- CM>^.,.^<, 10:07:37 07/15/09 Wed
- This was a show where the plot was unimportant but Harm got to look so darn cuye! (NT) -- PeggyC, 20:03:22 07/15/09 Wed
- I'll give this one a 3.75. It was pretty good, but not great. I agree with Christa that the final decision was the right one. Inside -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 23:10:23 07/15/09 Wed
  - One of Trisha's background songs in the diner was "She's in Love with the Boy" with the chorus saying " what's meant to be will always find a way, she's gonna marry that boy someday." (NT) -- Araninda, 02:21:45 07/16/09 Thu
    - Oh, how appropriate. Wish they'd received the rights to include the original music on the DVD's. (NT) -- Lee, 10:46:03 07/16/09 Thu
- I think Bud and Harriet's sisters met at the wedding and fell in love and then they couldn't be allowed back on a military show because of "don't ask don't tell" ! (NT) -- Theresa, 00:05:54 07/16/09 Thu
  - LMAO! Definitely a GRABB, Theresa! (NT) -- Araninda, 02:12:55 07/16/09 Thu
  - GRABB! How do you come up with these things? (NT) -- JAG Junkie (Ronda), 06:43:51 07/16/09 Thu
- I'll give it a 3.5. As someone else said, it wasn't one of my favorites, but it's a long way from some of the worst episodes of JAG. Others have pretty much expressed my views to the questions that were asked. DBP must have a real thing for ESP or psychic phenomena because he sure used it a lot. (NT) -- Lee, 10:54:20 07/16/09 Thu
- In the context of late Season 3 this was a good episode, focusing on the Navaho culture and traditions. Inside fora few comments in resposne to the always thought-provoking questions. -- jan, 12:39:34 07/17/09 Fri

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