I assume you wrote this before the most recent revelations? -- Final End

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Date Posted: 12:14:28 05/25/02 Sat
Author: Drummond
Subject: I assume you wrote this before the most recent revelations?
In reply to: schwabra 's message, "Oh bull" on 20:01:35 05/24/02 Fri

In any case, I don't know if there's more that could have been done. I'm not an expert.

The term "conspiracy" refers to a secret plan of some sort involving numbers of people. I don't think there was a "conspiracy" to be inept, if that was the case.

But it does appear that had there been some coordination between the various inteligence operations, there might have been some warning. Could we have prevented the attacks? Who knows? But to forgo even asking the questions serves just as many political aims as asking them.

Bush should not have tried to bury the story. That was his biggest mistake. That was the "conspiracy."

The most recent revelations leading to the Department of Justice investigation, point to some pretty big mistakes. But they were mistakes, not a conspiracy.

Incidently, many Jews were screaming to the others as early as 1933 to get out of Germany, and for several years thereafter. Relatives of my wife left right around the time of the burning of the Reichstag. But even as things got worse, many refused to leave because they didn't believe it would get so bad. This is not to "blame" them but to point out the power of denial. There was plenty of evidence, but many simply did not want to hear it. It was all "conspiracy theories" to them.

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Not necessarily conspiracy -- schwabra, 18:24:56 05/25/02 Sat
- Re: What? -- The Serpent, 22:26:09 05/25/02 Sat
  - No one knew -- schwabra, 08:53:33 05/26/02 Sun
    - There were warning signs -- Drummond, 14:34:35 05/26/02 Sun
      - I still do not agree -- schwabra, 19:17:44 05/26/02 Sun
        Fair enough -- Drummond, 01:45:32 05/27/02 Mon
    - Re: Jack the Ripper, Free Masons, and so forth. -- The Serpent, 16:40:02 05/26/02 Sun
      - I don't give the government the benefit of the doubt -- schwabra, 20:48:28 05/26/02 Sun
- We disagree re statistics -- Drummond, 01:42:54 05/26/02 Sun
  - Without statistics -- schwabra, 09:06:27 05/26/02 Sun
    - Criminals? -- Drummond, 14:28:13 05/26/02 Sun
      - I want a way to agree on "probable" -- schwabra, 19:07:54 05/26/02 Sun
        The courts have never agreed on a workable definition -- Drummond, 01:35:38 05/27/02 Mon
        I live in a town torn by this -- schwabra, 08:19:58 05/27/02 Mon