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Date Posted: 13:56:35 10/15/02 Tue
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In reply to:
Warspite
's message, "Re: New poll (Nebula v Nebulon)" on 09:25:00 10/15/02 Tue
>Hmmmm....this is VERY unfair. TIE Defenders are VERY
>rare!
it has never been said that the Imperials fight fair. I could go for a mix of TIE Bombers and Interceptors or just TIE Bombers, but you have decided that the defenders will be fine.
>So rare that even 25 years after their introduction,
>they are rarely/never seen. Nebulon Bs do NOT
>generally carry anything better than standard TIE
>fighters (maybe Interceptors). For them to be carrying
>two complete TIE Defender squadrons would be almost
>unprecendented. Certainly it would only be in
>EXTREMELY rare (i.e never!)cases, where the Nebulon
>was on some kind of high priority critical mission.
>The chances of a Nebulon B just happening to be
>carrying them when it meets the Nebula would be so
>rare as to be unbelievable.
>
>However, if you want to swap out the standard Nebulon
>B complement, that's fine, but then surely the Feds
>should gain the same privilage. So instead of mix of
>37 various personel shuttles and shuttlepods, how
>about the Nebula carrying a load out of something like
>25-30 Peregrines or runabouts? Let's make it even
>fairer to you and say they only have 24 runabouts.
>That means there is 1 Defender for every runabout.
>
>Let's then take a look at the comparison.
>
>A runabout is 23.1 meters long, 13.7 meters wide and
>5.4 meters tall, giving it a volume of roughly 1709
>m3. It has a tractor beam and six phasers (type V)
>mounted to provide full all round coverage (two by the
>cockpit, two on the nacelles and two on the aft
>module). It can carry a 13.3cm microtorpedo launcher,
>and up to four full sized photon or quantum torpedoes.
>It has a shield grid which we know can take full power
>shots from ST capital ships. It has impulse drive,
>which can propel it up to 0.8c at accelerations in the
>range of 16,000g and a warp drive that can achieve at
>least warp 5.
>
>The TIE defender is 10m long, high and wide giving it
>a volume of around 1000 m3. It has 4 Laser Cannons, 2
>Ion Cannons, 2 General Purpose Warhead Launchers (8
>Concussion Missiles or 4 Proton Torpedoes or 2 Space
>Bombs). It can also have a tractor projector fitted.
>It has shields but we know they can can be penetrated
>by SW fighter grade weapons. It has twin ion engines
>(better, but in the same range as standard TIE fighter
>performance), and a hyperdrive.
>
>So what does this tell us? Well, the Defender is
>nearly 2/3 the size of the Runabout. It almost
>certainly has weaker shields than the runabout since
>they can be pentrated by fighter range weapons. The
>two ships probably have similar energy weapon
>performance, but the Runabout has the advantage of
>more numerous and powerful torpedoes. With full sized
>photon and quantum torpedoes, the runabout has a
>significant range advanatge. The Runabout is certainly
>faster (FTL speeds in real space) and better
>accelerating (certainly on warp and probably on
>impulse too). The TIE is the more manouverable of the
>two, but this would be cancelled out by the all around
>phaser coverage of the runabout.
>
>Since the runabout is faster, better accelerating, has
>heavier weapons with all round weapon coverage, and a
>better shield, it seems clear to me that it has a
>major advantage in this battle.
The Ion cannons might be a deciding factor. It has been shown that Ion cannon fire requires many less hits to penetrate. If a few Ion cannon blasts get close to the warp core it might start to malfuntion (hell, ambient radiation has done that before).
Mixed ion cannon and laser cannon fire from guns that shoot very very fast and the shields will be down in short order. It will all come down to the pilots in this battle, and only the very very best get to fly the TIE Defender.
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