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Date Posted: 09:25:00 10/15/02 Tue
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In reply to:
The Divine Shadow
's message, "Re: New poll (Nebula v Nebulon)" on 16:33:42 10/14/02 Mon
>>It would interesting to work out whether the Nebulon B
>>fighters could take the shuttles or not. Given that
>>the shuttle have shields, I think they would win.
>
>First I'll give you the standard equipment on the TIE
>Defender: 2 Ion cannons, 4 laser cannons, 2 missile
>tubes (they can carry any missiles, proton torpedoes,
>cuncussion missiles, diamond/boron missiles, and the
>new Baradium missiles [those would royally f*ck up any
>ship])
>and 1 tractor beam projecter pointing downward.
>
>TIE Defenders are faster than TIE Intercaptors (so it
>can to somewhere around .9 to .95c), it has armor on
>par with X-wings, and hyperdrive. The tractor beam
>can be used to make super tight turns, Corran Horn
>once used his to avoid laser fire that would have
>killed him. the pilot latches on to a larger ship
>(like a runabout) and continue to use their engines,
>thus causing a very tight turn.
>
>the ship has greatly improved manuverability over the
>TIE fighters and intersceptors. The agility of this
>craft puts TIE Intercaptors to shame.
>
>So, the feddies now see themseoves on the lumbering
>battle ship side of the spectrum as far as
>shuttles/fighters go. The run-abouts and shuttles
>would be hard pressed to defeat this enemy, when they
>enjoy numeric, speed, and agility advantages.
Hmmmm....this is VERY unfair. TIE Defenders are VERY rare!
So rare that even 25 years after their introduction, they are rarely/never seen. Nebulon Bs do NOT generally carry anything better than standard TIE fighters (maybe Interceptors). For them to be carrying two complete TIE Defender squadrons would be almost unprecendented. Certainly it would only be in EXTREMELY rare (i.e never!)cases, where the Nebulon was on some kind of high priority critical mission. The chances of a Nebulon B just happening to be carrying them when it meets the Nebula would be so rare as to be unbelievable.
However, if you want to swap out the standard Nebulon B complement, that's fine, but then surely the Feds should gain the same privilage. So instead of mix of 37 various personel shuttles and shuttlepods, how about the Nebula carrying a load out of something like 25-30 Peregrines or runabouts? Let's make it even fairer to you and say they only have 24 runabouts. That means there is 1 Defender for every runabout.
Let's then take a look at the comparison.
A runabout is 23.1 meters long, 13.7 meters wide and 5.4 meters tall, giving it a volume of roughly 1709 m3. It has a tractor beam and six phasers (type V) mounted to provide full all round coverage (two by the cockpit, two on the nacelles and two on the aft module). It can carry a 13.3cm microtorpedo launcher, and up to four full sized photon or quantum torpedoes. It has a shield grid which we know can take full power shots from ST capital ships. It has impulse drive, which can propel it up to 0.8c at accelerations in the range of 16,000g and a warp drive that can achieve at least warp 5.
The TIE defender is 10m long, high and wide giving it a volume of around 1000 m3. It has 4 Laser Cannons, 2 Ion Cannons, 2 General Purpose Warhead Launchers (8 Concussion Missiles or 4 Proton Torpedoes or 2 Space Bombs). It can also have a tractor projector fitted. It has shields but we know they can can be penetrated by SW fighter grade weapons. It has twin ion engines (better, but in the same range as standard TIE fighter performance), and a hyperdrive.
So what does this tell us? Well, the Defender is nearly 2/3 the size of the Runabout. It almost certainly has weaker shields than the runabout since they can be pentrated by fighter range weapons. The two ships probably have similar energy weapon performance, but the Runabout has the advantage of more numerous and powerful torpedoes. With full sized photon and quantum torpedoes, the runabout has a significant range advanatge. The Runabout is certainly faster (FTL speeds in real space) and better accelerating (certainly on warp and probably on impulse too). The TIE is the more manouverable of the two, but this would be cancelled out by the all around phaser coverage of the runabout.
Since the runabout is faster, better accelerating, has heavier weapons with all round weapon coverage, and a better shield, it seems clear to me that it has a major advantage in this battle.
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