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Date Posted: 00:17:30 10/11/11 Tue
Author: Cathy F.
Subject: First time I watch this show and I really liked it. I was wishing that there were German subtitles for many reasons and the song was lost on me. Could someone explain that?
In reply to: mkim 's message, "Loved Pan Am last night!!!!" on 12:46:31 10/10/11 Mon


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[> [> IŽll have to explain a bit about the history of the German National Anthem. Inside... -- Jam, 04:50:19 10/11/11 Tue [1]

HereŽs a link with a lot of info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied

Essentially, , the Deutschlandlied, which later became the national anthem, has 3 stanzas, the first of which goes like this:

Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
|: Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world! :|

When it was composed, there was no state of Germany, but rather a lot of smaller states with their own monarchs. So the meaning here is that a unified Germany is to be desired above all else (several sovereign states). The second stanza is about women, wine and song (and might just be a drinking song, it was even intended as such), and the third stanza is what is actually the official national anthem today:

Unity and justice and freedom
For the German fatherland!
For these let us all strive
Brotherly with heart and hand!
Unity and justice and freedom
Are the pledge of fortune;
|: Flourish in this fortune's blessing,
Flourish, German fatherland! :|

The entire song became the national anthem in 1922; then the Nazis used only the first stanza and took it out of context to claim their "superiority". After WW2, it wasnŽt sung anymore and until 1954, Germany had no anthem at all. It was then decided to use only the third stanza as the national anthem, and this was also used as the national anthem for the unified Germany in 1990.

Long story short, Colette was singing the first , "Nazi" stanza, which in 1963 had essentially been banned.


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[> [> [> This is very interesting. Thanks, Jam. -- Lee, 14:55:14 10/11/11 Tue [1]


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