VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 123456[7]8910 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 07:48:44 02/05/15 Thu
Author: usmgrad
Subject: Throwback Thursday

Definition: the name of a weekly social media posting trend that users participate in to share and look back fondly on some of their favorite memories

Do you remember this? From season seven, episode 149 and was first shown on February 5, 2002.







Given Harm's expression, what was he thinking? Can you name the episode? Storyline? What do you remember about this one? Have you seen it lately?

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Replies:

[> ' Head to Toe ' some parts of this episode like for some other episodes have been censured by the channel who broadcasted it at that time in my country. -- Laurence, 08:02:56 02/05/15 Thu


[ Edit | View ]

[> [> it bothers me when they cut scenes or lines out of the re-runs. It's been done in the US also. Sometimes you lose the intent of the scene when it's been edited. -- usmgrad, 20:54:53 02/06/15 Fri


[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> The channel who broadcasted JAG runs for the left wing in my country. -- Laurence, 15:09:44 02/07/15 Sat


[ Edit | View ]


[> Funnily enough I just watched it this week. I always liked the storyline and the way they presented the issue. It must have been the only time Mac sides with a woman who broke the rules. INSIDE -- yiota, 10:20:56 02/05/15 Thu

I think she took the Lieutenant's stance as disrespect for the customs of middle eastern countries (don't forget that Mac, like CB has Persian roots), and might have been insulted. She's also majored in Political Science, was in effect a diplomat, so the Lieutenant's bluntness must have rubbed her the wrong way, but when she was put in the same situation, she understood the frustration and changed her mind. That wasn't usually her position when faced with women breaking the rules.


[ Edit | View ]


[> [> You're right, yiota. She did have a change of heart .... (inside) -- The Chief, 19:13:41 02/09/15 Mon

I think Mac was very by-the-book because it was a defense mechanism for her. It gave her structure and probably kept her sober. And it allowed her to put up walls when she wanted to.

I really think this is one of the better eps from that time period. Great character development for Mac.


[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> I agree with you Chief, as a recovering alcoholic Mac needed clear structures, like the UCMJ and the strict regimentation of the Marine Corps. When she accuses Harm of being a control freak in "Lifelines", he had the perfect precedent of pot vs kettle, but he didn't use it (to his credit). -- yiota, 17:08:32 02/10/15 Tue


[ Edit | View ]


[> this is the episode that got me hooked on JAG - I love it when Harm tells Mac - I'm not talking to you until you've had a cold shower LOL -- chris k, 17:56:16 02/05/15 Thu


[ Edit | View ]


[> I haven't seen this one in a long time! Nice to revisit it. I love Harm in that suit! -- manette, 18:49:10 02/05/15 Thu


[ Edit | View ]


[> I love the express on Harm's face. It almost begs to be included in a "caption please" post. I am with yiota, the way Mac changed her position on this case was eye opening, to her and the viewers. I'm not sure Harm every got what Mac went through when they went off base. Takes "walk a mile in my shoes" to a different level. -- usmgrad, I hope to post one of these each Thursday, it could be fun!, 19:34:41 02/05/15 Thu


[ Edit | View ]

[> [> Yes, that would make a good caption please picture! Another one: the picture of DJE on this month's Hunk-of-the-month board. -- Deemus, 13:30:05 02/08/15 Sun


[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> I agree -- usmgrad, 15:44:15 02/08/15 Sun


[ Edit | View ]


[> Great idea! So glad you are doing this! I just saw this last week. It's one of those episodes that tips the scales of like/dislike Mac for me, and shows how really Harm was more of an advocate for women than Mac. (inside) -- Alicia, 19:30:42 02/08/15 Sun

I wish in this episode that Mac was originally empathetic to the Lt. She attributed Harm's new found understanding to the aviator bond, but that was always Harm. Though there attributions to Harm being chauvinistic at different times in the series, oddly Mac seemed more of one.
She didn't react until she was put in the same place, and changed her view. It was because she had to walk in the defendants shoes. Rules were rules unless they had to do with Mac. Then her good reasons were enough to do what she needed to do. This from even the first episode she appeared in. However, Mac was written to hold everyone's feet to the proverbial fire, will little empathy for their reasons or justifications. There was an inherent hypocrisy in Mac, and episodes like this highlighted it.
Yet, I do like this episode alot. :-)


[ Edit | View ]


[> [> That was the way Mac usually handled conflicts involving women from the beginning. The way she saw it(and she was a woman who had dealt with alot of the daily fall out from serving as a woman in the Marine Corps in the late 80's early 90's) any woman who didnt follow regulations reflected badly on the military and made every woman who served look unprofessional. We are who we are and we all bring our experiences with us in our judgements.I'm sure the writers knew that. She didnt realize what she was supporting until she felt invisible and degraded and sometimes thats what it takes...CONTINUED -- mkim the look on Harms face was "sorry, but youre supporting this, right?", 19:41:41 02/20/15 Fri

Had my moments with Mac in that season and the seasons following but watching the show from Season One until that point, it was a learning experience, pure and simple, they both had them and I loved their characters all the more when the lesson had been learned.


[ Edit | View ]





[ Contact Forum Admin ]


Forum timezone: GMT-5
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.