| Subject: In My Opinion and it is only an Opinion |
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Date Posted: Wednesday, July 11, 06:43:56am
In my opinion part of the problem with the the quality of girls directly relates to the prepartion time these young ladies are putting in the months before Miss SC. When I was in the Miss SC system a few years ago, OK many years ago we focused our time on getting ready by speaking and performing at appearances. NOW, not so much. Everytime you look on these young ladies facebooks or websites it is I AM HAVING A FUNDRASIER! You see picture after picture of these girls with raffle, tickets, auction items, pancakes, buckets with their names on them, dinners, jewelry parties and little girl pageants. The focus fter you win a local title has drastically changed. In the "good ole days", we would spend the year out speaking at churches, civic groups, schools and organizations, we would perform out talent every chance we got to any type of crowd. I personally danced on sidewalks, church basements and even a flatbed truck. I spent months talking to people about my platform and issues concerning them, not Hi, My name is PAGEANT GIRL and I am raising money for. And this is showing in the young ladies, so much time is being spent on Dollars and not on preparing for the competition. These young ladies coming out in 5,000 dollar dresses but unable to answer a question on stage. Coming out in a custom made talent costume, but not being able to perform that talent. This is riduculous. Too much emphasis has been put into the money side of this. Everything is money, money and more money. From the CMN, to the opening number dresses, the hotel bill, the clothing, the "right" coaches, the ads sales, the "buy me a spot in the top 16" right down to the you need to go work the Bi-Lo stores to raise more money. When is the emphasis going to be on the GIRLS again. We wonder why people have quit respecting the pageant, let me help you out. when you have young ladies out there raising funds for "their journey" to Miss SC, people have no idea that the money they are giving to going to buy a 5,000 dollar dress, or pay someone 500 to do hair and makeup all week. This system is no longer about Style, Success, Scholarship and Service, it is about the almighty dollar. What happened to an all volunteer organization that empowered young women? What we have know is a Pyramid type scheme that starts at the top and works down to the locals, the girls and then the communities that girl the funds. And we all know in a Pyramid Scheme, as the pyramid goes down, it the people at the bottom that are the ones that are the losers.
OK, so know you all can jump on here and defend or disagree, but if you honestly look at this, you will see that there are many people who agree with this.
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- Couldn't have said this better myself. This is why for most of us this has to be a one time thing. It's just far too costly and the emphasis is on all the wrong things. (NT) -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 06:59:23am
- AMEN AMEN AMEN! My daughter was told, if you want to be competitive you need to: Raise alot of CMN money, you need to go the Golf Tournament, you need sell 8 ad pages, you need to try and get a Sponsor for the State, you need to go buy a dress from this person, you need to get a couple girls to be princesses and oh yeah you need to buy a dress from State and oh yeah forget the 15 dollar sofies, you need a 75 dollar yoga outfit. And tell your parents to take out a second mortage on their home because you might win a 500 dollar savings bond. -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 07:12:21am
- Totally agree and I came on today to say just that AMEN TO YOU SISTER These girls are working extremely hard raising money for this and that which they have been told to do. First of all I think it is great for these young ladies,but there is too much expectation from it. They do not have time to focus on competition and just spending time with family,which is what its all about Last year I recall there being 500.00 cash for a prelim winner so what is up with the 500.00 savings bond. It becoming not worth the time for these girls and certainly not worth the money for the parents who open and open the wallet.. (NT) -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 09:46:55am
- Calm down a minute. The "surge" to have more is not a phenomenon with pageant girls only. This is cultural where people buy their kids a BMW for 16th birthday so their little angel can be most popular. In NO CASE does having a $5000 gown insure you a Top 10 slot at Miss SC. This hasnt turned into a club for Country Club girls....instead it has evolved into an organization riddled with less-than-classy directors & moms who think they know how to prepare a girl for competition and then complain when things dont go their way. (NT) -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 04:22:05pm
- I thought the Sanders were gone. They were the masters of making money for themselves on the backs of the contestans. The contesntants should refuse to do this. The state should be responsible to raise the money. Where does all the money go? Ridiculous. Just say NO!!! -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 05:39:59pm
- This is probably the most honest post on the board. The talent and bad answers show no prep time. But the amount spent on the dresses and hair and makeup is quit noticable. I agree with the original post though. The fund raising and begging for money has destroyed the system. -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 10:56:53pm
- They shouldn't be allowed to call this a scholarship pageant - it's pure business. -- No name, Wednesday, July 11, 11:36:37pm
- I would love to know the actual amount of Scholarships "PAID" to the schools .... I can tell you this..... it is not 11 million dollars.. -- No name, Thursday, July 12, 07:28:55am
- What is sad is that I know of at least three other groups that put in their proposal to Miss America to take over the state franchise that focused on the girls. Any of those three groups would have been better than what we have now. And what the state pageant is now requiring local directors to do with the scholarships they raise for their local pageant is not legal or ethical for a tax exempt organization to tell their donors. No wonder they have lost so many great directors the last year and have all of these last minute pageants. (NT) -- They need to look like they are growing in numbers to make Miss America happy, but they are hurting the contestants and families and volunteers in the process. They should be ashamed of themselves but it seems the greed monster got a hold of them just like it did the Sanders., Thursday, July 12, 08:21:29am
- Agreed. the reason the Locals now have to give their Scholarship funds to the state is if they go unclaimed.... the State gets the money! GREED GREED GREED (NT) -- No name, Thursday, July 12, 08:40:20am
- FYI... the state organization can not enforce that "rule" because it is 1 of 4 basic rules of non-profit donor policies. I am not talking about just tax exempt status being revoked, but there have been cases where executive director's of major non-profit organizations have served jail time for lesser violations. You have to be so careful when you are dealing with donated funds. If you have someone donate a scholarship for the winner, they are giving it to you (the local organization) and if they did not support the organization that the state is saying you have to put the funds into, then you (the local), the state organization and the organization holding the scholarship funds in legal peril. (NT) -- I had a friend of mine who is an attorney for the SEC look at the contract and he told me to run from being associated with any organization that had the requirements and extra riders associated with a franchise agreement., Thursday, July 12, 11:04:12am
- Check with the State Requirements. All Scholarship money for local pageants is now held by and administered by the Miss South Carolina Organization (NT) -- No name, Thursday, July 12, 03:38:58pm
- Then that changed today because on the Miss SC website as of yesterday they still had that even money for the people's choice would be held at Central Carolina Community Foundation, which is a completely separate non-profit. There are just so many things that the state "requires" that does not make sense, the entire local franchise agreement contradicts itself, and they want to "own" the local title you put together, have the right to release you as local director at any time, and then you must sign and agreement saying if they don't have you as a local director, EVERYTHING that local that you helped establish and gain funds for, they now own it, including props and sets and office equipment. No wonder they want to "hold and administer" all the funds. They should be bending over backwards to thanks those who volunteer their time and spend their own money to send girls to state, not taking more and more from them without a thank you. (NT) -- It is a sad day in SC for sure!, Thursday, July 12, 05:06:08pm
- Central Carolina Community Foundation is the "Holding Account" for the Scholarship funds. It is all in one account. The local scholarship funds are put into the Miss SC Account. They then administer it. If your local winners never claim their scholarships then the money remains in the Miss SC Account under their control. (NT) -- No name, Thursday, July 12, 05:44:40pm
- How can the Miss SC Organization, which is a separate non-profit, administer funds from a "holding account" that is at another non-profit? You can try to spin it any way you want but it is not legal and both could loose their tax exempt status if the IRS looked into it. Miss SC can not require a local pageant to deposit funds into CCCF. If the state organization serioulsy thinks that a pageant from the Upstate, just as an example, gets funds for their winner from their local city council, and those funds go to a foundation that "serves the 11 counties in the midlands" to earn interest for their own agenda, and the city council would be okay with that and not start some sort of inquiry, then they are fooling themselves. (NT) -- So many scenarios and not a single one has the state pageant looking good. They need to get their act together to gain our trust and earn the respect they want. Until then I would warn anyone thinking of directorship to run away., Thursday, July 12, 06:18:58pm
- Re: How can the Miss SC Organization, which is a separate non-profit, administer funds from a "holding account" that is at another non-profit? You can try to spin it any way you want but it is not legal and both could loose their tax exempt status if the IRS looked into it. Miss SC can not require a local pageant to deposit funds into CCCF. If the state organization serioulsy thinks that a pageant from the Upstate, just as an example, gets funds for their winner from their local city council, and those funds go to a foundation that "serves the 11 counties in the midlands" to earn interest for their own agenda, and the city council would be okay with that and not start some sort of inquiry, then they are fooling themselves. (NT) -- No name, Friday, July 13, 09:02:03pm
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