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Subject: Ghost Photographs


Author:
Julie
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Date Posted: 15:02:50 10/27/02 Sun
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I have a wide collection of spirit photographs taken over 4 years of paranormal investigations. Some of the most unnerving are posted online at www.funtigo.com/juliewohlberg. I have not yet found an explanation for the anomalies in the photos - all were shot with a professional camera, 800 speed Kodak film. No flash was used and there were clear weather conditions (no fog, rain, etc).
Subject: Directions to 7 gates


Author:
ElDiablo
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Date Posted: 18:56:51 03/20/03 Thu
(ip5.76.susc.suscom.net/64.78.76.5)


The Seven Gates of Hell


THE SEVEN GATES OF HELL!!!MWUAHAHAHAHA *hack hack* choke *BLEARF*
The seven gates are located near Toad Road which is not its real name but is the popular name for it. It is somewhere off of mt. zion road, past the galleria mall, going north. Toad road is somewhat hard to find if you are unfamilliar with the area but once you find it there is a bend in the road (like a 90 degree angle) and there will be two paths. One is an overgrown path that leads to nowhere (literal hell if you are looking for the seven gates, as two of my friends and I searched this path). The other is a nice clean one that has (or had) a big gate across it. THIS is the right (well actually the left) path. I have heard many stories from several credible people about this place. Here are the details as i know them:

1st gate-just noises stange ones, rustling leaves, footsteps, nothing too bad

2nd gate-more noises, stonger, scarier, becoming intense at times-getting a little strang

3rd gate-now we're getting scared-i've heard several things about this one but the freakiest is that there are babies crying for "mama"-now it gets bad

4th gate-ummmm okay i am not sure of the order of these descriptions but this one involves going down and down as the air gets cooler and cooler (not much like hell, eh?)

5th gate-one person was telling me about some quakers that were sitting around a camp fire chanting-crazy shit

6th gate-wtf-don't even know, if you get here you might just be fuct. i am not sure what this gate entails but i know one this-IT SUCKS.

7th gate-...if you are in here you are possibly the toughest person alive, i have heard of a person that went in there and came back and never talked about it again.

Just some other misc. stories: A guy went in with a buddy and got too freaked out and decided to leave but his buddy stayed. he never heard from him again...strange heard from my bro who heard from a guy he worked with. dunno if it's true but sounds crazy.


A guy i know personally said that he went one time and absolutely nothing happened, then he went again *at night and said some phreaky shizzle was goin' down. i know that he is not one to lie in that situation so...I want to go there (and will) before i head off to college (in july @ Art Institute of Philadelphia [fyi]). Well for those of you still looking at this forum-good luck and good searching, if you need specific directions e-mail me @ HERE. peace yall.

Subject: Amity hall info?


Author:
cdave
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Date Posted: 08:29:45 11/19/02 Tue
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hi, i was wondering if anyone knew the whearabouts or had info on amity hall. its located above marysville off of rt15 but thats all i know. drop me a line if you have anything.
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Subject: Hexenkopf rock


Author:
Firnace
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Date Posted: 11:21:40 06/30/03 Mon
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I need a nice picture of hexenkopf rock. Does anybody know where to get one?
Subject: Hall's Mansion


Author:
Autumn
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Date Posted: 12:39:54 04/10/03 Thu
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We went to Hall's mansion last night and I have heard a lot of different stories about the place. I just want to get more information on the previous owner, and about the layout of the mansion. Anyone's expirience that made it to the mansion would also be very helpfull. If you could... instead of posting it on the message board email it to me @ hottiucanthave@aol.com or fastnfuriousgirly@hotmail.com...
Thanks
Subject: Any Haunted sites around allentown


Author:
Bob W
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Date Posted: 14:24:59 07/02/03 Wed
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does anyone know of any haunted sites i could go take a look at, im just getting started in paranormal investigating and would rather not go anywhere where talking to owners is involved. any reported stories or graveyard hauntings would be appreciated. i have been to spook lane, constitution ave, etc and have no found anything yet... any help would be appreciated
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Subject: Bigfoot in Pa.?? Your thoughts


Author:
Scott-LVGHS
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Date Posted: 18:35:32 04/12/03 Sat
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Ok,lets go off the beaten path a bit. I'd like to hear some opinions about Bigfoot existing in Pennsylvania. My opinion about it is I do not think Bigfoot,if he exists anywhere,does not exist in Pa. I feel this way simply because Pennsylvania is hunted so heavily. There isnt one area of the state that is not bombarded with hunters,especially during the deer season. If a Bigfoot did actually exist there would definetly be more sightings and if there were sightings there would surely be one shot. There are so many hunters out that someone would eventually see one, especially since all hunters push game around so much. I watched the special today on FX about Bigfoot. They actually named the man in the Bigfoot suit that was seen in the famous Patterson video. I maybe could believe that one could exist in a state that has very deep forests that people do not venture into often,but Pennsylvania's woods are much too populated with hikers and hunters. So,my opinion is that there is no such thing as a Bigfoot in Pa.
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Subject: Industrial Solvents and Chemical Company


Author:
Mike
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Date Posted: 13:54:07 11/15/02 Fri
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my friends and i found this place in Newberry, York County. It's on Stevens Rd right beside I-83. I was wondering if anyone else knew anyhting aboutit. we've explored the place tooo many times and are scared shitless to go back. we want help. contact me if u r interested
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Subject: newville house


Author:
cdave
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Date Posted: 07:21:09 11/12/02 Tue
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hi, i was wondering about the house mentioned on shadowlands near newville pa across the road from a school. from what is said its a really freaky place. has anyone been there or know anything about it??
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Subject: Buck Hill Inn on MTV Fear


Author:
Holly Dolly
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Date Posted: 05:52:26 06/11/03 Wed
(gtw13-2.esc13.net/170.76.20.253)

Are there any good Pennsylvania ghost books that have the history of the Buck Hill Inn in them?
The place apparently has a lot of spirit energy,especially Room 354.
According to their website,a woman named Lorna Kilpatrick stayed there,getting ready for her upcoming wedding.
It says the next day,(after the wedding?) Lorna was found murdered by the very priest who preformed the wedding. ceremony. Father Anthony McClain was later found less than one mile away,dead of an apparent gunshot wound.
A maid was foound in 1962 lying dead in the water filled tub in this room, with her wrists slashed clutching a rosary in her hand. 5 people had died in the room,and it got such a bad reputation,they closed the room for good due to guests complaints.
There were other deaths there as well.
Any information is appreciated.
Subject: ouija boards


Author:
ida wright
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Date Posted: 17:13:19 05/16/03 Fri
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i totaly agree with you on ouija boards i think they are evil and anybody who uses them gets in over their heads they are dangerous and toys like they were marketed years ago be careful if you use one
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Subject: I know who David Lee "Rick" is!


Author:
KennyB
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Date Posted: 18:28:30 03/11/03 Tue
(pcp02672527pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net/68.85.24.70)

Hey you guys,
Now it makes sense. The name Rick...the Philadelphia IP address...The link posted on Hillary's board...This is the photographer for "Crazy Cathe", the one I was telling you guys about Saturday night. The one who took the ghost indians home in her car and had tea with them. That is funny.
Anywho, before I get any more unprofessional, I sugggest that anyone who is interested should try to view copies of "America's Most Haunted Inns" and "America's Most Haunted Town" and decide for yourself. But I also suggest NOT buying the videos, simply becaus ethey are very poorly made. I have a copy and would be willing to let you watch it.
By the way, Rick, I will continue to write about those who attempt to con or mislead people to gain a buck or to sit in the spot light. If that upsets you, that's because you're one of those I write about. Science, though ever changing, is what gives us the concrete evidence. Would-be psychics and the photographers who take pictures of dirt that the psychic picked up and brushed into the air...should remain in the circus with those evil clowns. Do I seem harsh to you? That's because I've seen your work and was embarressed that people like you are out there feeding information to those who do not know any better. The only thing I find more painful then viewing the content of your site is that knowledge that you live so close to me.
As I said before, the two of you are the kind of people that serious, intelligent investigators try to avoid.
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Subject: Jim Thorpe Jail Handprint-Fact or Fiction-You may be surprised!!!!


Author:
Scott-LVGHS
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Date Posted: 07:39:15 11/16/02 Sat
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Lately I have been researching the Molly Maguires and the handprint in cell 17 of the old Mauch Chunk Jail very intensely. Although I believe this handprint to be paranormal in nature. I have come across proven written evidence from the day before the hangings that proves this legend completely WRONG!!! STAYED TUNED FOLKS.
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Subject: Ghost Rider in Palmerton??


Author:
LVGHS
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Date Posted: 14:37:33 05/13/03 Tue
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In Charlie Adams' book Ghost Stories of the Lehigh Valley there is a very short story about a civil war soldier who has been seen riding in the area of Palmerton,Carbon County,Pa. I have lived in this area all my life and have never heard of this story. I believe it to be just an urban legend. If anyone has any info on it please email the LVGHS directly. Thank you.
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Subject: Elmira.14901 bigfoot website


Author:
Bigfoot Watch.14901
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Date Posted: 07:29:37 07/08/03 Tue
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Elmira.14901 Bigfoot Watch has a new WebSite come see us at

www.elmirabigfootwatch.com
Subject: seven gates of hell, york -new info-


Author:
Tragikk
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Date Posted: 14:55:16 06/28/03 Sat
(14-pool1.ras12.nynyc-t.alerondial.net/206.149.204.14)

ok, I've read lots of different things about this place. so today me and a friend went looking for it 'in the middle of the day'. anyways, we came to what everyone descibes with the gates, however driving up the road a bit we came to what is a cleared path "well obviously it once appeared to be" totally overgrown with weeds but no trees and no gate, it's hard to spot. furthermore after checking out some maps of where this path is aprox 20 miles in by about 10 miles wide of nothing before the nearest road etc, could this be it? looking for anyone interested in a nitetime escapade if you will -Don
Subject: Hawk Mountain, PA


Author:
D
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Date Posted: 08:24:29 06/24/03 Tue
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Ok,....I went to hawk mountain and about 3mi before the sanctuary parking lot (@12:40A.M.) my car doged out like it was weighed down by about 600lbs.(I Know my car very well).
The Temp outside rose many degrees, instead of being chilly, it was like noon earlier in the day! I had a $300 35mm camera, that started to act up, it has never done that before, changing aspex, now it is stuck. And it wouldn't take a picture. The camera was preped by my friend who is into photography 7mi before the sanctuary, it was fine. We didn't see anything, but my started to overheat, it's usual temp is 190, it was about 230. My car is black and usually dirty, when we got back there were not scratches, but marks where the dirt was taken off the car in the shape of claw marks, then my driver's side head light blew out. Any Info on what is up there, and so on would be absolutly great.
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Subject: BCPA and LVGHS In The News....


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 18:15:58 06/16/03 Mon
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Sunday night June 8th Scott Marsh from LVGHS teamed up with members of the BCPA for an investigation of a 19th century Inn in Berks County, there was a reporter present and he did an article on the investigation in the local newspaper, here is the link:
http://www.berksmontnews.com/patriots3.html
Subject: Black Star Canyon Threads Removed


Author:
LVGHS
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Date Posted: 15:52:25 06/12/03 Thu
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I have removed all the messages that refer to Black Star Canyon. The reason is that a couple idiots have been posting violent bombing threats against others. In this day and age you should be real carefull of what you post. If anyone even attempts to post such threats again I will forward your IP address and your message to the Feds in Philadelphia then you will see just how funny it is. I know I'll be laughing. That kind of threat, even if you are kidding, will get you arrested and will not be tolerated on this site. If you wanna talk like a stupid dumb shit go do it somewhere else. You and your immature views are not welcome here. Grow up. There is a paranormal group in Bethlehem,Pa. that I think you would get along great with. Go do some bonding with them. Any more messages about Black Star Canyon will not be approved and displayed.
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Subject: Idiots I tell you!


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 04:25:47 06/06/03 Fri
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Ok, this takes the cake! Even Dave hasn't figured out a way to make THIS much money off the paranormal! check it out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2933146051&category=1469
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Subject: CHADSFORD POSSESSED AREA


Author:
SAVAGE
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Date Posted: 18:59:33 06/04/03 Wed
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My brothers girlfriend lives in Oxford and she told me of a satanic church that she used to frequent in Chadsford. She said one time men w/rifles stopped her party and told them to go back the way they came. Also the trees around this area are bent away from the site. The church is said to always have a light on inside. Now this was some time ago but my inquiry is,can you help me define what this area and church actually are? I am very interested and so are my brother and his girlfriend who has not been to the area for many years. Thank you for your time.

SAVAGE
Subject: Can you guess?


Author:
Jerry M, Founder of TCPS
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Date Posted: 19:15:27 05/25/03 Sun
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My fellow investigators, have you noticed anything wrong with the good Dr. and his last two (2) newsletters? I have. It seems to me that after all of those weeks and months of telling us about the "new" testing equipment that he invented, all of a sudden the drama stopped. Is that because we proved to people he is a fraud or maybe it blew up on him, Sharon, and BooBoo. Whatever it was, lets keep doing it, besides, I kinda like the Boy Scout Stories better, they are more interesting.
Subject: Posts


Author:
LVGHS
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Date Posted: 14:34:41 05/13/03 Tue
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I'd just like to remind some of you to keep your posts clean. Profanity or just being a plain idiot will not be tolerated. Most people that post here are friendly and respectable but we still have some immature losers that need attention. If you are one of these people dont even bother leaving such messages. They will be simply deleted and wont be seen by anyone. So,dont even waste your time.
Subject: Schuylkill County Ghost Stories Needed


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 16:54:02 05/06/03 Tue
(dialup28-Reading.btdial01.bluetruck.net/63.175.0.156)

Right now i am in the process of starting a Schuylkill County chapter of the BCPA. I need any ghost stories that anyone might have pertaining to Schuylkill County. Please exclude the Gordon Mt. woman (an urban legend) and Peddler's grave, i already have these. Also, Jerry, Saturday night you mentioned the ghost drag racer on Rt. 209, what was the exact date and time that tis entity is supposed to appear again? my memory is good, it's just short OL
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Subject: THE RIP_DIP THEORY


Author:
Jerry M
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Date Posted: 20:23:33 05/04/03 Sun
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Ah forget it, I am not going there anymore on this subject, It hurts my cranium to think about it. BUT if I did, all I can say is that Scott, Rcik, and myself had a good laugh about this one last night.
Subject: Nice Website!!!


Author:
Brian Roesch
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Date Posted: 15:53:46 04/28/03 Mon
(cache-rl05.proxy.aol.com/152.163.189.101)

Keep up the nice work, and feel free to visit my site as well. I will be back again soon.
Haunted Fort Lauderdale
http://hometown.aol.com/liondog96/page7.html
Subject: New Yahoo Group


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 19:18:29 04/22/03 Tue
(dialup24-Reading.btdial01.bluetruck.net/63.175.0.152)

Hey everyone, i just created a new Yahoo Group called Ghostresearch. You're all invited to join the group and discuss different ghosthunting techniques, post pics, EVP's, or whatever you feel like doing :o) The address for the group is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ghostresearch/

Enjoy!

Rick
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Subject: Cyber Terrorism or The Truth About a Fraud?


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 15:10:45 04/21/03 Mon
(dialup44-Reading.btdial02.bluetruck.net/63.175.0.220)

Well, it seems like our good friend Dave is feeling even more threatened by people like us, here is a quote from the latest IGHS newsletter:

There are some new bashing provisions coming on line soon. Those who bash others will learn a hard lesson soon. I have heard that those who are bashing others will soon find their acts defined as cyber-terrorism subject to stiff penalties under some new Federal proposals. This new bashing law will take the wind out of a lot of sails who wallow in mire and find gratification in demeaning others. One such case of cyber-terrorism is going to court out West, so it is only a manner of time.

I'd like to see this get enforced in a country that allows people to freely speak their opinion. LOL
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Subject: IGHS


Author:
Jerry M
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Date Posted: 18:24:44 04/20/03 Sun
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I was just reading the new toilet paper I got from the IGHS. In it, it states that they drove around in the RV and Dr. Douchebag would tune the radio in to different stations and hear the voices from beyond. I know that to be true myself, cuz everytime I turn my stereo on, Elvis plays through my speakers, and if I play my cards right, John Lennon and Randy Rhodes can also be heard. I have to ask, who the hell is this guy kidding? Doesn't this guy realize that you can hear things like scanners, baby monitors. walkie-talkies, drive-in movies, and things like that through radio waves. Maybe its possible that he did hear something, maybe he did hear a voice from the dead, or maybe he heard someone talking to someone else through another form of communications, like a cordless phone? Look Dr. Douchebag, go to a real school and learn about radio waves and the way voices are transferred between devices before telling the world that you heard all of these "voices" by just turning the dial on the radio.
Subject: Is the IGHS done with Gettysburg?!


Author:
KennyB of PIRA
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Date Posted: 16:42:47 04/14/03 Mon
(pcp02672527pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net/68.85.24.70)

Hey guys,

I was just reading over the crap Dr. Degenerate calls a newsletter and this line stuck out...

"We will hold next year's ghost conference in Johnstown, PA because this town is perhaps the most haunted town in America."

In addition to the rest of the bad-mouthing he did, it would seem to me that he's going to hold his Scam-a-thon in Johnstown and not Gettysburg.

Did we do what we set out to do?
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Subject: Harassing Continues from the "V.P."


Author:
Scott Marsh
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Date Posted: 10:06:22 04/08/02 Mon
(du01161.pco.ptd.net/204.186.1.161)

I still am getting harassing emails from these little kids. Here is the latest. Please excuse the language content but what do you expect from such a "professional" group.

Hey Scott,
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE PROBLEM?! This is the V.P. of the NCPRIT speaking now we tried to propose a truce but you didn't accept it. Why not? Honestly I think what is going on is childish and it seems that you don't want to stop the fighting which I think is complete and utter BULL SHIT. Your group just started out not to long ago if I'm correct,and how long has NCPRIT been around well let's see over 4 years and we also have 40 + members. We tried to stop this childish game but if you want keep this going I'll have to say that you are a childish immature little prick. I have an idea let's stop these stupid fucking games and go on about our business.

Geoff Comer Co- Founder, NCPRIT
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Subject: Dr. Douchebag Speaks Again


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 13:17:08 04/13/03 Sun
(dialup6-Reading.btdial01.bluetruck.net/63.175.0.134)

Here is an excerpt from the newest IGHS newsletter:
We will be field testing our prototype ultrasonic EVP recorder here in Johnstown this week. Our engineer has finished the initial prototype and we will have the fun of field testing it at many of the haunted sites here in Johnstown. We will keep you posted on the results of our newest technological development. No other ghost club has such technology available to them. We lead out in the development and in education while others just follow along and copy what we do. We have invented a new product that will enable us to hear the dead speaking in the ultrasonic range. We are making history as we write these words.

In this same newsletter Dave bashed Gettysburg and the people from that area, basicly calling them greedy and jealous. I really want people to understand what kind of guy Dave is, Gettysburg has allowed him to host a conference there for several years, the people there put up with him and his group of IR Thermometer wielding groupies for the entire weekend of his conference while they run around one the historic battlefields like a bunch of Star Wars inspired wannabes, laser pointers flying everywhere. He calls the local ghost groups from that area green with jealousy yet there he is collecting $85 from them as they attend his pathetic excuse for a conference. This guy knows he is losing interest from the people of PA and now he is resorting to bashing them in order to make himself look like he is a groundbreaker in paranormal research so that others will continue to support his travel agenda. Remember people, any techniques you come up with for EVP recording or any other paranormal research doesn't count because Dave didn't think of it, it only counts if he thinks of the idea or steals it from someone else, the latter applies in many more claims to fame that he has than the former. I am going to be starting a little project this week....i'm going to be finding out email addresses for as many businesses in Gettysburg as i can get and i am going to be emailing them each a copy of the latest IGHS newsletter and let them make up their minds about whether or not to allow him to have his conference there anymore. We all need to start taking more action against this con artist and just maybe we can keep him out of PA.
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Subject: IGHS's Dave Oester Bashes Gettysburg and its people!!!


Author:
Scott-LVGHS
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Date Posted: 14:38:05 04/13/03 Sun
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Here you go folks,straight from the IGHS newsletter.....


One of the nice touches we find in Johnstown is that unlike Gettysburg that has turned into a tourist town, Johnstown is still in a pristine condition, the flood marks are still visible, and no venders hawking their wear at every shop in town as we find in Gettysburg. We found so much contention in Gettysburg between the shop venders, even the green-eyed jealous ghost clubs content over turf in Gettysburg, each with a severe case of "I was here first" covetousness.

The war has not ended in Gettysburg, today the locals are fighting over turf that even the Civil War Soldiers would shake their heads and wonder why. It is about money today, bottom line is greed. Many have commented how much Gettysburg has changed over the years since we started holding our annual event in that town. The Battlefield is special, even if the surrounding merchants and ghost groups are fighting amid themselves. Those who fight amid themselves about turf and greed have lost the significance of why we were coming to Gettysburg. It is no longer about respect for the dead, but about pride and power.

It is refreshing to find a town like Johnstown where the local folks are not contentious about who was here first. While Gettysburg may have the most haunted battlefield, come to Johnstown and walk the most haunted Main Street in America. Listen to the stories about the flood victims, the murders and the suicides and those spirits who still haunt Main Street today.
Subject: I.G.H.S.


Author:
Scott
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Date Posted: 08:14:44 04/08/03 Tue
(11-162nat.geisinger.edu/159.240.11.162)

Ive read your comments and opinions about the I.G.H.S.and like you I am an experienced ghost investigator.I do not believe in commercialism in our vocation AND I dont believe in bashing other groups either.If you or someone else does not like someone elses activities or procedures bashing them will not help PlUS it makes the person doing it seem child-like.I dont believe in the way the I.G.H.S. conducts business but I do the mature thing....I dont visit their website and i steer away from them...its that easy!Ive been in this vocation longer than most of you(25 years)and ive seen and heard many about many screw-ups but I try to handle it the mature way......why don't you try it L.V.G.H.S?...believe me, it will make you sound more mature and increase your credibility. (I did not sign my full name due to be fact my organization will be recognized and my team members do not deserve any retribution due to my opinions)
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Subject: from the other end of the state...


Author:
Jen
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Date Posted: 23:21:51 04/08/03 Tue
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Hello, this is my first time to this site...i happened to stumble upon it tonight in my search for information. I'm from South Fork, PA (in case you're wondering where that is at, its about 60 miles east of pittsburgh, and 10 miles north of Johnstown). recently, we have been having some "paranormal" activity occuring at our house...let me explain. my friend kyle painted his closet door red around a month ago...5 days ago he took a short movie on his digital camera of our cat in his room. when we looked at the movie, the door is white. i have a picture taken of a friend in our kitchen, and in the center of the picture is a bright white circle. its too big to be a bug, or even a speck of dust for that matter. a friend of ours, believes he can feel them, and he feels that there are five of them, two children, two adults, and an adult that is "following" a friend whereever she goes. the cat, every now and then, say will be laying on the floor, and all of a sudden get freaked out, and run as fast as she can upstairs. the other example i do have, saturday night, Brittany (the girl who my friend suspects has the ghost "following" her) opens up the bathroom door, and standing in the bathroom is what she described as a "man in his twentys with piercing blue eyes, black slicked back hair, wearing a blue print flannel shirt and jeans." as she went to walk downstairs, she told us that she felt like something grabbed a hold of her, and threw her down the stairs. is there any possibility of getting feedback to what any of you think, either through this board, or through e-mail...Realsweet85@earthlink.net, as to what you believe/think, or even to where maybe there is a board for the western side of PA??? I'd really appreciate it.
Jen
Subject: slappy


Author:
serge
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Date Posted: 15:33:31 04/01/02 Mon
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the ncprit dusnt make threats we back them up. ill do more than burn a house down.
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Subject: IGHS


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Jerry M
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Date Posted: 03:28:14 04/05/03 Sat
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I was wondering if anybody can help me. I know that the IGHS stands for INTERNATIONAL Ghost Hunters Society, but what I don't understand is how do they get that RV across the oceans to go to places like England, Scotland, Russia, or anywhere else like that. If that RV has some magical powers, then I must be in the wrong business. I should start charging people for hog-wash and put a PAYPAL banner on our site, cuz I would definitely want one of them so I can be like Dr. Dave.
Subject: Convention or Ripoff...


Author:
Rick-BCPA
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Date Posted: 20:59:39 04/04/03 Fri
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and to think.....I thought "International conferences" were overpriced.....
http://www.queenmary.com/QMweb/html/press_releases/press_paranormalconvention2003.html
Subject: The IGHS conference and Newsletter


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KennyB of PIRA
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Date Posted: 19:29:34 03/30/03 Sun
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Well, we were in Gettyburg this weekend to see how the IGHS conference went. Not many were in attendance, I would estimate under a hundred. Surprisingly, they had "guards" at the door who knew who I was. Although, and be clear on this, I didn't go to the entrance, one of these cohorts came up to me and started asking if I was going to cause trouble. I had actually gone in to get a map from the hotel counter (which I had in my hands). After the cohort got stumped by my "Do you work for the hotel?" Question, he proceeded to complain to the staff that I was going to disrupt the conference.

People, that is not my style. I do not barge in places and start spouting crap like many of your average "protests". I was there to observe the actions of the people who came out of the "educational" conference. As I suspected, they ended up at places such as Sachs Covered Bridge...walked up, held thier cameras out at arm's (or camera strap) length and snapped pictures. Guess what, they got some orbs. No kidding. A wooden bridge, extremely dusty inside, drizzling rain outside, and no other equipment to determine activity. Did I mention the swarms of bugs?

The newsletter came out today. Those idiots had the gaul to bash the Pennsylvania Paranormal Conference that took place the weekend before. I'd wager because it was much better. Then Sharon bashes parapsychologists. It's pretty easy to see that in Dave and Sharon's eyes, everyone is a complete moron if they don't contribute to the RV payments.

The simple fact that Dave never answered Scott's invite to a open debate and that Dave had his little (And I use that term loosely) wannabe's outside waiting for us, shows that he's afraid to be put in a situation where he'd actually have to go outside his script of talks and answers.
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Subject: Debate Challenge Unanswered from Dr.Dave


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LVGHS
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Date Posted: 06:22:05 04/01/03 Tue
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Jerry,put away your popcorn and your remote. The IGHS has refused to answer the challenge of a live public debate with LVGHS founder Scott Marsh. I would just like to say that the challenge will always remain open. I only ask of two things-It MUST be in public in front of a crowd and it MUST be documented by a film crew. I guess Dave doesnt do anything that he can't charge a buck for.
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Subject: Debate Update


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LVGHS
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Date Posted: 07:13:31 03/28/03 Fri
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It is now Friday. The debate challenge was made on Monday and still no answer from Doc Oester. Dave,since it is supposed to rain on Saturday you won't be out investigating unless you want more moisture orbs for your pic gallery. So I think it would be a great day to stay in the conference center and have a nice friendly debate in front of everyone present. I mean,I'm a wannabee you know. I don't know anything so you should have an easy time squashing me in a debate. Just a side note,if you do accept,there will be a professional camera crew present :)
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Subject: LVGHS vs. IGHS in Gettysburg


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LVGHS
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Date Posted: 06:32:49 03/26/03 Wed
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The LVGHS founder,Scott Marsh,has made a challenge to Dave Oester of the IGHS to compete in a live public debate in Gettysburg during the IGHS's weekend in the historic town, on the ethics and the all around study of the paranormal. Their views differ greatly and it should be very interesting. So far Dr.Dave has not answered the challenge.
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Subject: cant read white script on pale blue background mate


Author:
julia
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Date Posted: 12:23:09 03/26/03 Wed
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TO THE GUY WHO SET UP THIS SITE!!!! i looked up this web site but could not read a word of it, white on light blue just dont work, i have an old pc, we dont all have top of the range gear you know
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Subject: skepticism


Author:
Adrienne
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Date Posted: 07:36:47 09/21/02 Sat
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First off, I think you should use your spell check before you do anything else. Those of us who know how to spell, for example know "ouija", "psychic" and "paranormal", key words in your circles, appreciate the minor effort it takes to use your spell check!!
Second of all, I would be truly impressed if someone in your field would announce, "That although an investigation was conducted, no evidence of the paranormal was indicated." You people always find something no matter where you go. If you expect people to believe in what you say, is it logical to expect that every research venture finds evidence of paranormal activity? Maybe it would seem dull to the visitors of your website, but I feel it may lend credibility to what you're doing. Just a thought.
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Subject: An Article about the IGHS


Author:
KennyB of PIRA
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Date Posted: 19:44:41 12/13/02 Fri
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This is a new article just recently posted on this site, in the Articles section. I hope all will enjoy. If not, I'm certain I'll hear about it!
This articles deals with the co-founders of the IGHS, Rev. Dr. Dave Oester and Rev. Dr. Sharon Gill. Their website is located at Ghostweb.com. They began as a sight that simply collected photos from anyone who would send them in. These photos were supposed to be reviewed before being posted. The two co-founders started to hold seminars in 1997 in Decatur Illinois. After this, they began holding seminars in various places across the country, like Gettysburg, Virginia City, Salem, San Antonio and New Orleans. They’ve been featured on many shows, in newspaper articles and on radio programs.

In recent times, more and more groups are disassociating themselves with the IGHS. Why is this? Perhaps I can explain it here. One only needs to take a quick look at the IGHS site to see the pure commercialism presented there. As one navigates through the site, you would be hard-pressed to find a page without a PayPal link. But let’s start at the beginning.

The co-founders both state that they are licensed ordained ministers. Yes, this is true. They are both registered with the Universal Life Church. You can also become a licensed ordained minister, exactly like these two, in fewer than 30 seconds…as long as you can spell your own name and know where you live. They did not go through any classes or take any exams; they simply filled out an online form and were registered in California as ministers.

Both also make the statement that they have Doctoral degrees. Yes, this is also true. Dr. Dave has an honorary degree from the Universal Life Church. A quote from the website of the ULC… “Doctor of Divinity. This honorary degree is accredited by the International Accrediting Association. To receive this degree, we ask for a free-will offering of $35.00.YOU will legally be entitled to use the title Dr. in front of your name and D.D. after your name. Please remember, this is equal in the eyes of the law to any other Doctor of Divinity Degree issued by any other institution of higher learning such as Harvard or Yale, MIT or USC. You cannot use the title Dr. to imply in any way that you are a Doctor of Medicine or Psychology because that would be deceiving the public which is an offense against the state and deceiving the public. The title Dr. is a "protected" title in all fifty states so if you expect people to address you as Dr.________ _______ you should carry yourself in a professional manner and speak appropriately in order to show yourself as worthy of your higher rung on the ladder of social respectability and public leadership as well as a position of honor in our society - deservedly so.” So, for a small fee of $35, you can act like a Harvard graduate. That last part seems a little…stuck up.

Sharon Gill PhD. received her degree from the University of Metaphysics. I had a packet of information sent to me from this school and was extremely surprised. They send a “Research Report; A Doctoral Career in Metaphysics” along with all of the enrollment papers. The entire report explained various ways to make money from this. It went into Seminars, Books, CDs, Cassettes and even online sales of items. Sound familiar? Like maybe…the IGHS and their website?

This report also makes sure to note that Metaphysics falls under Religion, and not any form of Psychology. In other words, they are not held to the same rules for giving advice as their licensed counterparts.

The photos, which used to be free to view, are now archived in a members-only section. If you’re willing to shell out $12, you’ll be able to spend a few hours going through thousands of photos. Unfortunately, I am convinced that most, about 99%, simply go from e-mail right to the site, without any type of review. The “free” section shows the newest photos, and does not require the $12 fee. These still look as if they have not been examined. My advice would be to save your money and visit any number of sites that offer free viewing of all of their photos. Incidentally, we should note that when you visit these other sites, you’d actually be viewing photos taken by that group.

The IGHS offers two Home Study courses. One for the “ghost hunter” and another for the more advanced “Paranormal Investigator”. Each one costs $150 plus $10 for S&H. If you want both at the same time, then it will only cost you $260 plus $20 for S&H. I don’t see what credentials they have that would allow them to “certify” others for anything. Everything you need to learn to be either one (Ghost hunter, Paranormal Investigator) can be found on the web, for free. There are many sites out there that put the information up, or will willingly answer you questions via e-mail…all for no charge!

You must also keep in mind that you wouldn’t only be buying their information, but their opinions as well. One thing that many of us have noticed is that the IGHS co-founders are extremely stiff in the views. They are unwilling to accept theories that do not follow their own. This is very disturbing since there are no “right” or “wrong” answers when it comes to anything dealing with the paranormal. To the best of my knowledge, no one has a ghost locked away in a lab and conducting all types of tests…every psychic has not come together and actually agreed on the ways of the afterlife. Therefore, everything is a theory or an idea. Research is the only key when it comes to trying to validate these theories. Look into the sciences, do your homework. The answers are there; it just needs a lot of time and bookwork to find them. Opinion is the start of the research, it is the reason you started looking for the answer, not the answer itself.

We mentioned at the beginning of this article that the IGHS site seems to be pure commercialism. I already mentioned the numerous PayPal links all over the site, so let’s focus on a few of the items they are selling. We’ll start with their EMF detector. The item they are selling is manufactured by A.W. Sperry, manufacturer number EMF200A. They sell it for $120. The same, exact model can be purchased for $99.95 from www.professionalequipment.com.

The Infrared Temperature gun they sell is the Reytek Minitemp MT Series Hand Held IR Temperature Sensor with that extremely annoying laser pointer. The IGHS sells this item at $149, plus another $13 for the soft case. The same item can be purchased at www.infrared-usa.com for a slightly lower price…$69.30. The case is only $8.95. If you want to save some more cash, you can skip the annoying laser pointer and get the gun for $55.30

The commercialism doesn’t end there. The conferences I spoke of earlier will cost you a whopping $80 per person. This price does not include food, lodging or even the local ghost tour. It will focus on EVP, teaching you the difference between digital static and real EVPs. They will teach you the proper techniques for recording EVPs. As a bonus, they’ll teach you the psychology of earth bound spirits. What? The psychology of a ghost? Hold on a second. My dictionary states that Psychology is science of the mind or mental states and processes. 2- the science of human behavior. How can one study the science of the mind of a ghost? A ghost…an entity that cannot be kept in a lab and experimented on at will, nor can it be psychoanalyzed. I would love to know where this information is coming from and who is behind it. (But I’m not going to shell out $80 to do so, at least not to them).

But wait, half the features of the conference is “time to meet other ghost hunters and researchers, mingle and meet Dave and Sharon!” I have met both on several occasions and I’ve been more impressed with the ghost hunters that are just starting out. Dave and Sharon have a rehearsed inventory of answers. As stated above, they are very stiff in their beliefs. But, that could be an entire article onto itself. Everyday is an opportunity to meet ghost hunters from all over the world. The members of PIRA are in contact with quite a few teams in the States, as well as a few in England and Ireland. I’ve worked with several groups on investigations and share information with them. What I’m saying is, you don’t need to shell out $80 to talk to people with the same interests as you. They’re all out there…for free.

This last thing is probably the one that gets me the most annoyed. The IGHS Clip ID Badge for Investigations. For $11, you can get this plastic badge stating that you are a Registered Ghost Hunter of the IGHS in good standing. So, instead of shelling out the $150 for the Home Study Course to be a certified Ghost Hunter, you only need to let go of $11 for a badge. Yes, when the officer asks you what your business is inside the fenced in cemetery…flash him that badge. Let me know how it goes (from your jail cell).

The bottom line is that these two are making themselves out to be more then they are. Those who give in to their beliefs are supporting them…financially. If you purchase the overpriced items from them or go to their lacking conferences, you’re simply allowing them to continue their trek around the country in that RV. Have you ever seen an investigation report from them? Have you ever read an article from them that included scientific fact to back up their claims? Have you ever read a newsletter from them that DIDN’T put other groups down? Have you ever read a research report concerning an investigation from them? I can say “no”. It seems that a Paranormal Investigator should have these…to be an investigator.

This article was written by Ken Biddle of PIRA.
Any and all comments should be directed to him.
KennyB@Parainvestigator.org
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Subject: 7 Gates Info


Author:
Bill
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Date Posted: 18:29:56 02/26/03 Wed
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there are 3 gates (not the actual "gates" but like barriers). the gate to the right goes to a house. the gate to the left has a wide path. this path looks big enough to drive on but goes no where. this is a place where powerlines go/went at one point. it leads to the creek and on the other side of the creek is a monster of a hill...probably at a 65-70 degree angle, running probably 70-80 yards and totally covered with thorns. me and a couple of friends actually climbed that and all we saw at the top is a cornfield to the right, trees to the left and a house right in front of you about 100 yards. in my opinion, i think that the supposed "7 gates" are actually past the middle gate down that path. i read some where that the path actually crosses the creek and takes a sharp almost 90 degree right turn (after i read this i actually dug around some more and found a map that shows a "jeep trail" that does this exact thing) and this point is actually the 3rd gate and where everything starts getting freaky. we actually walked this path too, but being dark and all, we beared to far to the left and lost the trail. then, i actually saw a red light through the woods towards the direction of the car. not wanting a fairly large tresspassing fine, we all decided to call it a night. but upon arriving at the car, the light was gone,and there was no sign of law enforcement, or anything other than the car for that matter. i dont know, we could have actually been on the 7 gates path but lost it due to the brush, the darkness or "other reasons" beyond our material world. whatever the case, we are definatly headed back to check out that middle path. i hope this has been of some help.

*btw, keep an eye peeled for police. it is said that they dont want people out in there (its a big party spot. when we were there, there were beer cans and bottles all over the ground).

Ghost Hunters Inc. Check out our site for our other adventures.
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Subject: Looking for Articles


Author:
KennyB
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Date Posted: 18:59:35 02/24/03 Mon
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Hey all,
I'm looking for new articles for the site. Here are the rules;
It must deal with the paranormal, whether its equipment, investigative methods, ideas, theories, etc.
The author must be from an established paranormal group.
The article must be proffesional, well researched and thought out.
You'll get full credit, as well as a link posted with the article (That goes back to your site). This opens it up to just about anything dealling with the paranormal...ghosts, haunting, psychics, tracking anomolies, use and explanation of certain equipment, explaining how magnetic fields work, sound waves are recorded, infrared light enhances night vision... Surprise me.

You can send them to me at Articles@Parainvestigator.org

Thanks,
Kenny
Subject: New Address for PIRA


Author:
KennyB
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Date Posted: 19:32:53 02/19/03 Wed
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Hello there,
I just recently moved the PIRA site to another server. Just in case any of you out here haven't been there in awhile, come on by and take a look! The new address will be www.Parainvestigator.org. Be sure to refresh it to get the most up to date information. Thank you!

KennyB
PIRA
Subject: All Pennsylvania Paranormal Investigators


Author:
Jessee
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Date Posted: 08:18:43 10/30/02 Wed
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Come visit the new website:

www.Chill2TheBone.FearHunter.Penns.us

Check out this website! Yes, it is legitimate. Please take note that any exploratory dates advertised are subject to change after reviewing the sign-up lists. Notification will be updated on this site after the review, and the actual exploration day, public meeting place and time will be acknowledged.
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Subject: Allentown Ghosts


Author:
Muhlenberg College Student
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Date Posted: 23:10:32 11/22/02 Fri
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anyone know any "ghost lore" for Allentown, specifically Muhlenberg College... it's a favorite topic for college students to insist there are ghosts on campus, but I think it's just "urban legend" (not ghosts, rather the specific stories)
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Subject: "Toack" grave at Moonshine Cemetery....


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Camperjara
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Date Posted: 06:09:00 01/20/03 Mon
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I visited the Moonshine Cemetery on 1/16/03, I took several pictures of some of the gravestones. One thing that bothered me most was the grave site of "Toack", very simple rough cut stone marker with no inscription, just the name. Behind the grave stone the earth was dug up about 2 1/2 feet by 2 feet and about 1 foot deep. It was dug by a shovel (not an animal) and the dirt was piled in one spot. The headstone itself had fresh flowers on it (the only one in the graveyard that I can recall)I took instant notice to that. A grave right next to it did have a fake flower arrangment but this one was fresh and just looked out of place in the snow. Does anyone have any info on this, please respond. You may email me privately if need be. Thank you.--------CJ
Subject: Moonshine Church


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CamperJara
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Date Posted: 12:55:19 01/16/03 Thu
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I am interested in two historical events that happened at Moonshine Church, and also where I can find the information to back them up. One, the fire at the original Moonshine Church (an account of how it happened) it's always had a mystery to it. And second a strange killing that took place either at it's location or in the nearby area. I've heard a few variations of the story. A woman killed her children is the jist of it. I remember back in high school kids would talk about going out there. They said that the old church was there but it was just the foundation that was left (the only part the original builder had a chance to finish before his untimely death). Some of the kids said at the right time in the evening when you were there you could actually see (from a distance) the burned out church. They said when you stood within the foundation of the old church site you would get a feeling of disorientation. And yes of course there was "if you say blue-eyed six three times they would appear and scare the **it out of you." I am researching the paranormal and historical facts surrounding this are in Union Township, Pa. Any thing you got----gimme please! Thanks CJ
Subject: Going to the 7 Gates


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Tony
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Date Posted: 20:05:17 12/25/02 Wed
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Hey I am from the heart of York Pa, my friend Chris knows the location, and before the new year sometime this week we are going with a group of friends. He knows all up to the third gate and what to do, so I will post what happened when we get back. Questions? Email me
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Subject: I need info on the 7 Gates


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Bill
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Date Posted: 13:45:46 01/10/03 Fri
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If you have any information on the 7 Gates i would greatly apprieate it. I am part of a ghost hunting group and we traveled to York to find the 7 Gates, when we got there (Toad Road), we didnt find anything. We are pretty sure that we took a wrong turn or something. well anyway, i would like to know where to go after you reach Toad road. any information at all would be greatly appriecated. thx

Bill
Subject: Air Ion Counters and results


Author:
KennyB, Founder of PIRA
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Date Posted: 18:44:31 10/12/02 Sat
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Hey there,

I've done some research on the use of Air Ion Counters and have theorized on how ions could effect our equipment. What I'm looking for is first hand use and knowledge of this device. I'm looking for groups or individuals with experience with this to share thier know-how with us. I believe there is alot of answers within the researchof such particles.
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Subject: More about the IGHS


Author:
Rick Fisher
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Date Posted: 07:39:08 12/24/02 Tue
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Here is some more interesting information about the IGHS. As far as the conferences, I spoke there every year. The speakers get paid nothing, in fact one author did not bring his wife. When I asked where his wife was he said he had to pay for her to attend so he kept her home. This same author was asked to speak at last years conference, when the IGHS found out he was speaking atanother conferecne who the IGHS considers anti the author was told he was not needed at the IGHS conference. The conference each year ends earlier, last year it started at 9 am on saturday and ended at 3 pm. It started on sunday at 9 am and ended at noon. Sunday is spent sharing photos with everyone but most people have already left. So you actually paid $80.00 per person for a 6 hour event and take the breaks and lunch away and you had an actuall conference that lasted about 4 hours. Dr. Dave delivers the same speech each year and lately has become more of a sermon. I have yet to see Rev. Sharon finish a speech becaues she gets to emotional. Last year no one knew who was speaking and I didn't even know what time I was speaking till the day I got there, they didn't want to list who was speaking so people wouldn't find out that authors such as Mark Nesbitt and Ed Okonowicz would not be there. One guy even e-mailed the IGHS to find out 3 or 4 times to find out who was speaking he was never responded to so he didn't go, he wasn't going to spend money when he didin't know who was going to be there.They now have to rely on their own Inner Circlemembers since they have tossed me and other authors to the side. 90% of these so called Inner Circle members have been in active for years and another 5% still can't tell the diferance between dust and genuine orbs. There are just a couple who may take it serious. Once you disagree with the IGHS you are magically removed from membership. In their certiified course they mention they are the first society to endorse the thermal scanner. yet a few weeks ago in their on line newsletter they claim to be the first to use it, this is incorrect. Troy Taylor of the American Ghost Society had intorduced Dr. Dave to the thermal scanner. Most were not aware of it till I talked about it at the conference yet the IGHS was the first. Most of the equipment used by the IGHS was shown to them by others. I was the first to use the digital camera, digital recorder and a motion sensor, now they claim to be the first when I showed it to them. The most the IGHS has come up with are their own theories and beliefs many which are questionable, it is here where they draw the line. You are to accept this or you are considered anti IGHS. But they offer no evidence, remember everything we know about ghosts are only theories so which one is correct. Many of the photos on the ghostweb are also questionable, one as of lately shows the same ring of ecto in a couple of photos taken in differant areas, why would the same image show up in each picture, my opinion its nothing paranormal. One photo a few years ago showed an insect, you could clearly see the wings when the photo was enlarged, my assitant Karl Silvius e-mailed Dr. Dave and told him it was an insect. He responded to Karl by saying that it was genuine and that Karl was missing out on a great paranormal experience. Then months later Dr. Dave photographed his own insect and it was similar to the first photo. He presented it as an insect and warned others to becareful of photographing insects. He would not take the word of others and until he himself took the photo. He has a photograph from a pet cemetery claiming it is a portal opening, but this photo was taken from a moving vehicle which would show hundreds or orbs. I know the guy who took the photo, he left my house and on his way home driving by the pet cemetery he took the photo. The IGHS is now tired of photographs and orbs but don't mind charging you to view them on their website. The IGHS is fearful now of others since people are onto them and soon they will be history. Sorry for the long letter but felt the need to let others know.
Subject: Seven Gates Asylum


Author:
Eric
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Date Posted: 12:19:14 12/01/02 Sun
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I went out December 1 looking for this asylum. I had to hike a quarter mile back in then wade barefoot through 30 yards of water that was just above freezing and then go over a mountain. When I came to the top of the mountain I ran into a split in the path. I had four options. If anyone has been to the seven gates asylum please email me at - ericlabelle@chilitech.com In the subject box type Seven Gates Asylum. I want to make it there but I need more info. Thanks.
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Subject: Nice to See


Author:
Melissa
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Date Posted: 07:57:17 11/28/02 Thu
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I would like to say that it is great to see a ghost site that is really honest and gives honest and not far fetched opinions of the paranormal. I've noticed that alot of people in ghost hunting have a hard time controlling their imaginations and do not investigate with hard facts. I like coming to this site simply because you tell it as you see it. That sets groups apart from those that are just following along with the others. Keep up the great work.
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Subject: hospital


Author:
william
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Date Posted: 20:49:13 11/25/02 Mon
(ip142.7.blca.blazenet.net/24.104.7.142)

i was wondering if anyone knew any stories or have actually been to the old hospital in epharta pa i heard it was haunted and i have been there once just curious if anyone else has heard anything email me if u have...
Subject: Huge News......


Author:
Scott Marsh-Founder/LVGHS
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Date Posted: 23:37:56 11/16/02 Sat
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Coming in 2003,the LVGHS presents Parapalooza 2003,Jim Thorpe and Flagstaff Mountain nightclub will never be the same!!!!. Check the LVGHS website in the coming weeks for details.
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Subject: Jim Thorpe Jail Handprint a Hoax? Historical Research say YES!!!


Author:
Scott Marsh-LVGHS Founder
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Date Posted: 05:16:56 11/20/02 Wed
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Like I said in a previous post I have been researching the Molly Maguires and the handprint of the wall of the Jim Thorpe Jail very intensely and have come across a very important fact. Alec Cambell,the man who supposedly left the handprint on the wall was NEVER held in Cell 17 where the handprint is. On the night before the hangings two newspapers covered the story. One,the Shenandoah Herald listed the prisoners and told of what cells they were in,according the this paper,Cambell was moved from cell 8 to cell 10. The Philadelphia Evening Telegraph also has Cambell being moved,but from cell 8 into cell 14. That news was put out at 6pm and 12 midnight the night before the hangings. Cell 17 is no where near cell 10 or 14. Below is an out take of the article.

MArk here is the condensed version of the cell
story, all from the Shenandoah Herald, or Phila Evening
Telegraph.If you enter the Mauch Chunk prison at the main
entrance and look toward the far wall were the gallows was
built the cells in 1877 were numbered
thus:Kitchen on the left and the cells running along the left
side looking at the gallows are 1,3,5,7,9,11,13being
on the last one on the left.On the right side is
the office then cells 2,4,6,8,10,12,14 being the last
cell on the right.As you can see there is no
cell 17 on the lower tier in 1877.According
to the Herald on June 18, 1877 Campbell was located
in cell 10 on the right side. And O'Donnell was in cell 7
on the left side.All the other prisoners were in
the upper tier.On June 21, 1877 the Herald
reported Thomas Fisher's cell is not twenty feet from the
gallows.Also on the 21, the Herald reported that the prisoners
were all brought down to the lower tier.Jack
Donohue was taken from upper cell 21 and placed in lower
13.Edward Kelly was taken from upper cell 19 to lower cell
11.Doyle was taken from upper cell 20 to lower cell
12.So the night before the executions the cell
assignment according to the Herald is:All lower tire
cells:O'Donnell cell 7 Kelly cell 11 Doyle Cell
12
Donohue Cell 13 Campbell cell 10 being moved from
either cell 8 or 12.Then the Phila Evening
Telegraph stated:Campbell was moved from cell 8 to
14 Doyle cell 20 to 12Kelly cell 19- 11 Donohue cell
21 to 13 O'Donnell 7 cell.

And here is another article from the Philly Evening Telegraph....
June 20, 1877
About six o'clock last evening the four men were transfered to the
cells in the rear of the corridor in this order Campbell from 8 to
14, Doyle 20 to 12, Kelly from 19 to 11 and Donahue from 21 to 13
after the change was made the prisoners were shaven, and given the
usual prison fare bread and molasses and tea for supper. They were
waited upon in the evening by their spiritual advisers. Father M.R.
Bunce, of Mauch Chunk, Father E.V. McElhone, of Lowrytown, Father W.
Heinan of East Mauch Chunk, and Father James Wynne, Of Sumit HIll.
So there seems to be a discrepancy in the reports on the movement of
Campbell. The Evening Telelgraph states he was moved from 8 to 14 and
the Herald says he was in cell 10 on the right side ??? Either or if
you are looking at the gallows from the front of the prison he was on
the right side of even numbered cells not anywhere near the left side
were the hand print is located. According to the other report on the
other board he was in cell 10?? Cell 14 would be the last cell on the
right.
I emailed the Jim Thorpe Chamber of Commerce and the Jail itself a week ago. So far I have not been given a response. So,is this just a story to get the tourists into the jail??? One has to wonder.
Subject: gates of hell in york pa


Author:
jeremiah
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Date Posted: 16:34:36 11/19/02 Tue
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EVERYONE HAS DIFFERANT STORIES ABOUT THIS PLACE LIKE AT PLACE WHERE YOU START THERE ARE THREE GATES TAKE THE LEFT ONE THEY SAY.WELL I DID AND CAME TO THE CREEK AND A HILL ON THE OTHER SIDE .OTHERS SAID UP THAT HILL IS A FEILD AND HOUSES.WHILE ALSO I HEARD THAT INSTEAD OF PARKING ANT THE BEND ON TROUT ROAD WHERE THE 3 COW GATES ARE ITS DOWN AT THE OTHER 90 DEGREE BEND BACK IN THERE.WELL WHAT IS IT?AND AGAIN OTHERS SAY AT THE FIRST BEND DONT TAKE THE LEFT GATE TAKE THE RIGHT OR MIDDLE WHICH ONE?EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ITS NOT THE LEFT ONE SO WHERE IS IT.I KEEP READING THE SAME THINGS OVER WITH EVERYONE.IS THIS EVEN REAL OR A STORY.WHAT PEAPLE SAY CONTRADICS WHAT SOMEONE ELSE SAYS I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE.I HOPE IT IS TRUE I WANT TO SEE IT AND WILL GO TO THIS PLACE IF ITS REAL.MY BROTHER AND ME WANT TO GO IF ITS REAL WE ARE NOT SCARED AND WILL SLEEP OUT THERE ANYONE WANT TO JOIN IF WE FIND THE TRUTH IF ITS REAL.FEAR IS IN THE MIND.PLEASE ANYONE WITH REAL INFO EMAIL ME AND PLEASE NO STUFF LIKE OH YES I HEARD OF IT AND STUFF LIKE OH ITS DOWN THE LEFT TRAIL I HEARD IT ALL BEFORE . JEREMIAH
Subject: seven gates of hell


Author:
Karen
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Date Posted: 01:00:43 11/12/02 Tue
(cache-rl05.proxy.aol.com/152.163.189.101)

ok...me and my friend went there saturday night. we walked down to that creek and actually walked through it to the other side. We climbed up that practically vertical hill and we made it to the top. Unfortunately when we got up there we were thoroughly disappointed. There were houses,a field and a clump of trees in the center of this field. We were looking for a trail of some sort..but we didn't wanna shine our flashlights all over the place for fear of someone calling the cops from one of the houses. There was nothing up there...all we got was soaked pants and shoes and a hell of an exercise. other than that there was nothing.
Subject: New Article


Author:
KennyB of PIRA
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Date Posted: 16:33:39 11/07/02 Thu
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Hey there buddy,

I'm interested to see what your new article "Halloween-Good or Bad for Ghost Hunters" will be like. It got me thinking about it...and I guess it can go both ways. Although interested in the paranormal has skyrocketed in recent years, it still gets a boost around the Big Candy Day. It generates articles, news segments and specials concerning ghosts and ghost hunts. This in turn puts teams like ours in the spotlight, hopefully generating future investigations for us.

The flip side is that many of these articles and specials may put their own "spin" on what really happens. It also puts us in a position where people simply want "Ghost Hunters" at thier functions, basically using us as props. It starts to be more like a joke then anything serious. Unfortunately, I was part of that about two years ago at the General Wayne Inn. We were the entertainment rather then anything else.
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Subject: Tri-County Paranormal Studies


Author:
Jerry M
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Date Posted: 20:12:22 11/07/02 Thu
(cache1.pal.ptd.net/204.186.217.34)

The site is new and revamped, check it out www.members.tripod.com/j_matika. If there is something u would like added, email me and let me know
Subject: Keep Your Profanity


Author:
Scott-LVGHS
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Date Posted: 10:17:06 11/05/02 Tue
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Messages containing any type of profanity will simply be deleted,its not wanted here. If your that immature that you must use profanity, I don't even want you visiting this site,go find another.Idiots are everywhere. Thank you to those that come here to discuss their interest in the paranormal maturely.
Subject: Ghosts of "The House"


Author:
Kate
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Date Posted: 14:54:53 10/26/02 Sat
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Ive lived in this house all of my life......... and never found out how spooky it was until I.........
Subject: Huffs Church


Author:
Jake
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Date Posted: 22:20:02 02/19/02 Tue
(NoHost/156.12.148.211)

You should consider an investigation into paranormal activity at Huffs Church near Barto, PA. I have a strong feeling that you are going to find high amounts of activity.
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Subject: SEVEN GATES OF HELL


Author:
ALEXANDRIA
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Date Posted: 19:15:04 10/24/02 Thu
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THE SEVEN GATES OF HELL DOES NOT EXIST. YES THERE WAS A BUILDING BACK IN THE WOODS OFF OF TROUT RUN RD. (ITS NOT CALLED TOAD RD) BUT THERE WAS NEVER A MENTAL INSTITUTION, NOR WAS THERE ANY KILLINGS IN THE AREA. WE DID THE RESEARCH AND PROPERTY BACKGROUNDS. THERE IS NOTHING THERE. I WENT MYSELF, WASTED $50, DROVE OVER 300 MILES TO RESEARCH THIS PLACE AND ITS NOTHING. I INTERVIEWED THE LOCALS AND THEY SAID THEY ARE SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE COMING THERE FOR THIS CRAP. MIGHT I SAY, IT WAS UPSETTING TO FIND OUT THAT ITS ALL A "FAUX" GHOST TALE.
Subject: Local Haunts


Author:
Julie
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Date Posted: 04:52:28 10/24/02 Thu
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To all readers: My name is Julie Wohlberg and I am a writer for the East Penn Press. As a Halloween special, I was offered the chance to share some local ghost stories and legends, and I would appreciate any information you can offer on the subject: stories you've heard, things you've seen, etc. I'm trying to avoid heavy reliance on previously published materials, but I have read the Charles Adams book. Anything not contained in a previously-published source would be appreciated. I can be reached at Julie.Wohlberg@cinecon.com with input.
Subject: seven gates of hell


Author:
william
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Date Posted: 16:34:41 10/09/02 Wed
(ip94.58.blca.blazenet.net/24.104.58.94)

i have looked for the seven gates of hell..i wasnt able to find them only because i was with a bunch of people who wanted to leave...what i have heard is that it was a mental hospital for kids. it is located in the york and hellam areas in pa.
Subject: Coming to Union County, PA


Author:
Rita
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Date Posted: 14:04:19 09/30/02 Mon
(NoHost/4.17.64.202)

I will be visiting PA in just a few weeks & need to know of haunted locations and/or cemetaries within 50 miles of Union County, which is where I'll be staying..

I'm a ghosthunter from Maryland & am anxious to ghosthunt some old cemetaries, if you know of any.

Thanks!
Subject: New Site


Author:
Jerry
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Date Posted: 13:59:41 05/26/02 Sun
(NoHost/24.229.188.241)

If anybody is interested, Scott has helped me design a site. This site is dedicated to mostly the Coal Region Area for the LVGHS www.members.tripod.com/j_matika Check it out and tell me what you think
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Subject: Any Ideas???????


Author:
Susan
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Date Posted: 09:07:04 07/08/02 Mon
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I would appreciate anyone,with information,on haunted locations,in Gettysburg,PA. We are traveling down from NY and will be there Jul 26th-28th 2002. We would like to hit some real good haunted spots. So if you have any information,on places that we can go to please feel free to email me at MVGHntrs@aol.com
Subject: Interested in joining research group.


Author:
Ken Eppehimer
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Date Posted: 12:22:18 06/29/02 Sat
(dialup-63.214.208.139.Dial1.Philadelphia1.Level3.net/63.214.208.139)

I am interested in investigating the paranormal, but have very little exsperience in this field. My interest began as a child growing up to storys of my grandmothers home. She insisted that there were many ghosts of past family members occupying her home which which has been in the family for over 200 years. Know I am in my late twentys and although I have never exsperienced anything ghostly or paranormal, I want to see for myself are ghosts real. Do to the fact that I have never participated in an investigation before I prefer to be with a group that is knowlegable in the field. I have known and heard of many people investigating with no exsperience, How can someone get credible evidence when they have no clue what they are doing?
I am very interested in participating in an investigation with your group and learning some skills. Please contact me if you would be willing. Thank you
Subject: Lvghs Groupie


Author:
Melissa
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Date Posted: 06:08:29 06/21/02 Fri
(du01155.pco.ptd.net/204.186.1.155)

Hello-I am always checking your site to see what is new. I must admit something-I consider myself an Lvghs groupie. I live in the area and would love to meet you guys sometime. Ok,especially Scott with his blonde hair and that cutie face. And Joe with his rugged and handsome "Stone Cold" Steve Austin look. Do you guys make any public appearances anywhere? I would love to meet you. BTW,I am 22.
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Subject: new website


Author:
Hillary, LVGHS, PRSNA
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Date Posted: 05:53:05 06/19/02 Wed
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A new website has been launched for a new club called the Paranormal Research Society of North America. Please feel free to check it out at www.paranormalinvestigators.com.
Subject: Another NCPRIT masterpiece


Author:
Joe Fischer
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Date Posted: 02:38:15 04/08/02 Mon
(ACAA32D5.ipt.aol.com/172.170.50.213)

Letter From Chris aka…”The Great Bohollio”

The letter referenced below was received in my mailbox on 4/4/02. This letter is not typical of the NCPRIT leader in that it lacks the usual profanity, but it does occasionally require the use of a Code Breaker. I’ve decided to post it and after every significant section that could be broken down, you will find my narrative. Enjoy. After reading this, the message board visitor should be as convinced as the LVGHS that these “kids” are not only imbeciles, but apparently have split personalities as well. Here we go……..

Paragraph one:

Joe-

Since Scott was too much of a coward to reply to my messages concerning
his comments, I figured I e-mail you for once. What is with him? He has made flasified claims of myself and some of my members threatening to
"burn his house down" yet he maifests no proof.He certainly knows how
to talk out of his ass (no offense).Is he a madman?He certainly seems
bewildered enough!He badmouths not only my group but the IGHS, PGHS,
and others as well-is he jealous? We got better results then him so he says we "faked" them, I could say the same about him and his "Moon" shot!

Narrative 1:
1. Mr. Bohar is mailing me for once? Wait a minute, what about all the other emails he sent regarding how he is going to beat me up? Is this guy just forgetful?
2. Scott has made “falsified” clams regarding NCPRIT members threatening to burn his house down? Okay, how about somebody read the letter he sent to Scott that is posted on our message board. Somebody define “falsified” for me please! I believe when you say that members of your group threatened to burn down Scott’s house, that’s pretty much factual!!
3. Proof? “maifests”? I can post everything you have sent me Bohollio! You do mean “manifests” right? Take those “thousands” of dollars you spend on equipment and buy a damned DICTIONARY!!!
4. Badmouths the PGHS? Where the hell did you see that Chris? I know you can barely write, but try learning to read as well!
5. Scott says you “fake” your EVP’s? Yeah, he does! So do I! The only thing that makes me have second thoughts is what your EVP’s say. The one that says “Go F$%@ yourself” may be authentic. I figure the spirit world holds the same dim view of you and your group as the living do! Maybe it is real! Sorry about that Chris, my mistake!

Next paragraph: (The letter was not logically broken into paragraphs, I’ve taken the liberty to do this for the reader’s sake!)

Paragraph Two:

I e-mailed him just this week and nicely told him it is old and he needs to get over the fact things got off somewhat bad so then instead of e-mailing me he sends a sladerous letter to Steve which he forwarded to me telling us we are liars,etc.-if I were you I would take control over the LVGHS and get rid of Scott-the problem isn't his members I realize it is HIM!He badmouths groups that have never even done anything to him, people he doesn't even know, it really shows what kind of person he really is!Who made him the "God of Ghost Hunting" and who gave him the right to suddenly badmouth whomsoever he please, well there are reprucussions to what he has to say and I now have an
article on my site about him and what he "thinks" is the truth.



Narrative 2:
1. “Got off to a somewhat bad”? Okay Chris, how do you define bad? Random posts like “LVGHS sucks d#$@, Scott Marsh is a d$#%, etc.” How about that pesky reference to “burning down Scott’s house”? How about those lovely letters you sent me about how you and your geek squad is going to “work me over”? Chris, you are complete and utter MORON!
2. “Sladerous”? Again, I believe you are referring to the popular English term “Slanderous”. I have no idea what Scott wrote to Steve, but I’m sure it was justified. Should I break out the “An Interview with the LVGHS” letter that Steve sent us?
3. Scott is not randomly “badmouthing” groups. He and myself are badmouthing YOU! You have proven over and over that you and your merry band of dateless geeks are NOTHING but an annoyance. The comments leveled at the IGHS are also justifiable. Since they have no admission standards whatsoever, that is why NCPRIT has only them to claim affiliations to.
4. “Reprucussions”? Again, I must remind you that you are no more than a picnic insect annoyance. Nothing more. Again, try using spell check.

Paragraph Three:

How did you get involved with this loser to begin with? I now notice he is trying to trun the PIRA (also partly stationed in Freemansburg) to turn against us,his attempts arn't working though.Then he poses as "BigGuyForHire" and says he will get payback on the LVGHS "for beer".HAHAHA does he think I'm a lunatic or something?I see through him, he is immature in his own right yet he calls me immature-HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW ME!His own recklessness will bring your
entire group down, forward this e-mail to him yet he will STILL be too
much of a coward to speak with me.Let him be that way then.As I said I have nothing against the LVGHS but what happened has happened, the past is the past so why can't he understand that?It's a damn shame his own personal insecurities about his group and his need for attention forces him to badmouth those he has no authority to do so.It is just disrespect, God only knows how long he will go on with his babble about us.His article on us is ridiculous to say the least yet people believe this maniac? How is he when he goes ghost hunting?Does he know what he is doing?How do you rate him compared to yourself and other members?We offered him even a truce and I even ordered Steve to apologize for his actions to Scott this week and he did yet Scott is still blinded by pride!As I said, talking with this man is like talking to a brick wall or a block of ice-nothing happens!

Narrative 3:
1.Whoa!!! Can somebody please offer help interpreting this one? I’ m going to do my best here but God, Chris! “arn’t”??? You must have fond memories of riding that “little bus” to school each day! Is that were you met Slappy and Olah?
2. Scott is trying to turn PIRA against you? It isn’t working? Define “isn’t working” please! PIRA WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU OR NCPRIT!!! IF you don’t believe me, try posting something on their message board. YOU HAVE BEEN BANNED! THAT IS NOT A GOOD INDICATION OF YOUR STANDING!!!
3. “BigGuyForHire”??? “Some nonsense about payback for beer”?? What the hell are you blithering about Bohollio? I haven’t’ a clue as to what that collection of misspelled and unrelated thoughts could possibly mean. Check out the community college some day. I believe they offer courses for people like you. They are called Developmental Studies. They offer courses that start off slow and progress as you develop. After you master personal hygiene 101, you then go on to basic reading and writing. You can do it if you put your mind to it. I have every confidence that you can really find enjoyment and satisfaction in pursuing this advice. Someday when you close the back cover on “Where the Wild Things Are”, you will thank me.

Final Portion with closing:

Get back to
me if you wish.....

Sincerly,

-Christopher Bohar-Founder,NCPRIT

Final Commentary:

“Sincerly”? Again Buddy, go buy a DICTIONARY!!
Yeah Chris, I’ll be getting back to you. Don’t hold your breath!

"Sincerely"
Joe Fischer
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Subject: I would be grateful if you could speak to my class.


Author:
Jillian Panzarella
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Date Posted: 12:18:54 05/19/02 Sun
(maxtnt05-193.phlpa.fast.net/209.92.99.193)

Deat LVGHS,
Hi, I've been keeping track of you guys for about 8 or 9 months now and had e-mailed Scott Marsh a few times, but at 17 am too young to join the ranks (which is completely understandable, but I'm counting down the days to my birthday). Well, to get to the point, in my Current Issues class at Northampton Senior High School we were assigned to do a news cast as a final project. Naturally, I chose to do a story on you guys. My teacher loved the idea! I told him about you guys and he asked if I could possibly have one of you speak to our class. Well, would one of the LVGHS members please consider it? I will understand if that is not possible, being during the workday and all, but my class and especially myself would be most appreciative. My e-mail address is included so feel free to use it to reply to my request. :)
Thanks a bunch,
Jillian Panzarella

p.s. I think you've been more than toleramt with the way you've handled the empty threats(they don't have the balls to really carry them out) and childish games of the NCPRIT and I commend you. I too wish they'd grow the heck up(and buy a dictionary). ;)
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Subject: nice work


Author:
Jimmy
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Date Posted: 22:44:15 04/19/02 Fri
(spider-wf022.proxy.aol.com/205.188.195.146)

Hey scott this is the first chance i had to check out the site. Looks great. Keep it up. talk to you soon.
Subject: FYI


Author:
Jan
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Date Posted: 21:41:59 04/16/02 Tue
(du01231.pco.ptd.net/204.186.1.231)

I was just checking out LVGHS web site and I wanted to say a few things. First of all, my boyfriend is the founder of LVGHS and I am very proud of how far his group has come. As for this NCPRIT group - first of all I agreed fully with Joe - you really need to purchase (that means buy) a dictonary. My son has a better vocabulary and can spell much better. Secondly, DON'T try to act like you didn't do anything to provoke Scott's opinions of your group. I PERSONALLY have heard the calls and seen the emails so don't EVEN act so dumb. Not only did you call our home but my son heard your stupid messages and you can consider yourselves lucky that you dealt with Scott and not myself! He has a very professional attitude and has been very calm. I, on the other hand, wouldn't have been calm or professional. I have stayed quiet only due to the fact that I didn't want to say anything to hurt LVGHS but I know that wouldn't happen anyway. The LVGHS is a highly professional, educated, and well known group. All of it's members are seriously committed to the group. As far as the references to the titles that people in the group have - everyone in the group with a title has one because they excel in that particular area of LVGHS. No one just follows one person's ideas. That's what make them good at what they do. They ALL discuss and come up with ideas, places to go, stories to investigate, as well as get together to go over their own findings and validate them. Scott has worked hard to get this group going and all the members work hard to keep it that way. I'm feel sorry for you that you are all so immature and have so little to do that you feel the need to harrass my family as well as others in the LVGHS. Your obviously young and I try to keep that in mind but you really need to grow up and just stick to your own group. LVGHS wants nothing to do with you - I think that has been made abundantly clear. I must also include this - as a mother of a child - I will NOT tolerate anymore of your crap! Do NOT ever call my home again. In case you don't know - we do have caller ID, we can trace your call, and I personally will press charges if my son ever hears another message like he has before from you. As for the LVGHS - KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK - you ALL are very good at what you do and the recognition you have and will continue to have is proof of that!
Subject: Another NCPRIT email by Harasser Steve


Author:
Scott
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Date Posted: 16:53:39 04/03/02 Wed
(du01052.pco.ptd.net/204.186.1.52)

>Subject: hey scotty
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 18:44:59 EST
>From: StarmaDXE@aol.com
>To: scottmarsh@lvghs.com
>
>wow, congrats on your new thoughts and opinions page. really, its
something.
>may i inquire as to the point of that page? now dont get me wrong now
scotty,
>i am just curious as to why you would want to JUDGE other groups and
slander
>their names and claim how they are getting fake results. thats really
>UNPROFESSIONAL!!!! thats really funny!! because you CLAIM that you are
>professional and then you put up a thoughts and opinions page on your
website
>making fun of other groups like a 10 year old child. hmmmm.....nope,
doesnt
>sound professional at all. maybe its just me, what do i know? how do
you know
>our results are fake? can you prove it? no? i didnt think so. its ok
that you
>are jealous of our results but to imply that they are fake is really
>immature. in my personal opinion, you are a HYPOCRIT!!! do you know
what that
>is? well, maybe you better look it up in the dictionary. its really
funny how
>we have SO many evps and photographs. i dont know about you, but i
know i
>certainly dont have the time to go onto other peoples guestbooks and
make fun
>of them. i did, but it got old real quick. i dont care about what
happens to
>you, because you have 10 photos and only about 2 of them can actually
be
>proved to be something. i KNOW what a ghostphoto looks like, i HAVE
ghost
>photos of ectoplasmic mist in the shape of a human. and i must say
that your
>photos are not any real concrete evidence of anything, my colleagues
and i
>have seen your photos and we all agree that some are legitimate, but
most are
>nothing more than a reflection of a gravestone. one even looks like
its a
>picture of the moon. well, now that i wrote you this letter are you
gonna
>tell everyone that i had the nerve to call you a hypocrit? go ahead, i
bet
>you any money that if people who knew nothing about ghosthunting were
to
>judge whose site is more professional, yours or ncprit's. i am certain
to bet
>that more people would bet ncprit's is more professional. know why?
because
>there is no slandering, pointing out what is wrong with other groups.
you
>worry too much about what other people are doing, you need to get a
life and
>get serious about ghosthunting for the ghosts not for the publicity. i
admit
>that i had done some stupid things, such as write those obscene things
about
>you, and i am sorry for that. but i have grown older and wiser, and
people
>bashing just isnt my thing anymore. it gets old REAL quick. i go
>ghosthunting for the thrill of discovering why ghost exists and the
thought
>of getting pictures is thrilling. that is the reason i go
ghosthunting, not
>for publicity. i am sorry i was jealous of your publicity, but i have
come to
>realize that ghosthunting is for fun, not for publicity. i am
professional in
>my work, unlike you who accuse us of breaking in to that school house.
why
>would you even think that? so, maybe you broke into the elks club and
got
>those pictures. whatever, the point is that this has gone on long
enough, i
>propose a truce between you and me, steve. i figure its the mature
thing to
>do. i dont care about going ghosthunting with you or even having any
thing to
>do with you, but i just wanted to apologize for my actions. if you
refuse to
>form a truce with me, thats your deal. but it will just go to prove
who is
>the REAL professional. we are both men and since that is true i
decided to
>handle this in a manly way. its up to you whether or not you want to
be a man
>or a boy. i just thought that i would make up for the errors that i
have made
>when i was immature. i admit i was wrong. but i hope you will act
mature
>enough and form an agreement with me not to have anything to do with
each
>other, good or bad. you agree to let us alone, and i as well as chris
will
>leave you alone. so, do we have a deal? remember, its up to you
whether you
>want to be a man or a little boy. i guess i am just trying to see if
you are
>as professional as you CLAIM to be. let me know if how you feel.
>-steve
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Subject: Digital vs. Microcassette


Author:
Scott Marsh
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Date Posted: 16:19:35 04/02/02 Tue
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I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on which recording device is preferred. I have to say I am leaning towards the regular microcassette recorders instead of digital ones. I think the magnetic tape easily captures more EVPS. I Would like to hear some opinions.
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Subject: a new webpage


Author:
Ronda
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Date Posted: 21:15:17 04/05/02 Fri
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Just started a new webpage
http://ronda.20megsfree.com
Hope you like it!
Subject: Another thought


Author:
Scott Marsh
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Date Posted: 19:38:58 04/04/02 Thu
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I see that the ncprit kids posted a story about us on their site,how flattering. In it is nothing but mistruths. They say in this story that I badmouthed the PGHS in our thoughts and opinion page. Gee,if everyone reads it I gave the PGHS nothing but praise. Is Bohar reading the same article as everyone else. Rick Fisher even emailed me and thanked me for the nice comments I made about his group,now thats being professional Chris. He also says we have old, cheap equipment. Lets see Chrissy,I myself carry around $3000.00 worth of equipment. If you go to their site they list about 35 members. In all their investigations the only ones that take part are these 3 baffoons. What about the other members? There are never any members that take part in investigations,whats the purpose of being a club?? That article i wrote was my OPINION,do you know what that means Chrissy? It may not be everyone's opinion but it is mine. You obviously cannot take constructive critisism. Oh yeah,everyone listen to this,Bohar in his little article did come up with something good. He called me the God of Ghost Hunting LOL. So,I will be known as the ghosthunter formerly known as Scott Marsh and from this day forward I will simply be known as (drum role)....... The God of Ghost Hunting LOL. This is really too funny. Seriously though this will be my last mention of this kiddie harassing group. They are not worth my time anymore and are not worth yours. I am going to be getting back to what this site was set up for,paranormal investigating. I will be adding much more to the site and our investigations will be more frequent. We are going no where but forward. Were not disbanding Chrissy LOL. Infact Chrissy, look for us coming soon to RCN cable. Hey,you kids may be up for a role in an upcoming movie,Scooby Doo and the NCPRIT Too. I suggest that everyone emails this group and tell them what you think.. I only speak the truth,I do not lie and people that know me know that for a fact. These kids judge me and our group and they never even met us,how sad. I hope everyone had a great Easter with their families. I would also like to thank everyone for their support. It is well appreciated :)
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Subject: LVGHS ARE PROS IN EVERY WAY !!!


Author:
DAVE SCHAAR
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Date Posted: 15:11:09 04/04/02 Thu
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LVGS have investigated my house at least six times. They have also investigated twice with PIRA. They are very knowageable. professional and dedicated people. They have helped me understand a lot of things about hauntings and ghosts and use the best equipment and double check everything. It is sad to see them under attack by nitwits- correction- ncrits. We all know puberty is a difficult time, but once the ncrits get their junior drive licenses, things will get easier. I have considered letting ncrits investigate my house, a former funeral home with a lot of activity, if they could have gotten their parents' permission, but now I will stick with LVGS.
Dave in Wilkes-Barre
Subject: NCPRIT post in our guestbook


Author:
Scott
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Date Posted: 16:09:38 04/03/02 Wed
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Scott you really need to quit harassing me, well, your members anyways!You show how insecure you are by mocking groups that are BETTER than you!Too bad, hopefully the LVGHS will disband shortly.
Subject: NCPRIT's latest email to me


Author:
Scott
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Date Posted: 15:05:39 04/02/02 Tue
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As I said before,any emails from the ncprit will be posted for all to read. Notice in this email he admits that one of his "officers" Steve threatened to burn my house down and called my home with harrassing messages. Enjoy :)


From: "Christopher Bohar" | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: scottmarsh@lvghs.com

Subject: Comments

Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:25:22 -0500





THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS

Why dont we leave the acts of TWO DAMN INDIVIDUALS out of the picture
and
cut to the jist of it.On my EVP being faked.WRONG!We are simply more
successful in what we do whether it be at a cemetary or elsewhere
sometimes
we fail and sometimes we get lucky.In the course of an hour you can
easily
pick up quite a few EVPs, all one has to do is keep asking and getting
answers!I dont know how your group makes the approach but this is most
successful, other nights we would get one or no EVP recordings of any
kind.I
only post our more successful investigations on my website (maybe half
of
all Investigations or so come out good)-so far that is 22
Investigations
maybe out of 60 since October that have went well for us.We take
precautions
to make sure voices are not accidently "embedded" in the tape.Talking
is
only allowed when asking questions or commenting about something-NO
EXCEPTIONS to the rule.Even sometimes if we have 6 people on an
Investigation and say I get potential EVP then I have everyone listen
to it
to make SURE it was nobody talking.Then after confirming and ruling out
anything else only then can we assume it is the real deal!We have
enhanced
them audibly so that you can hear them,in reality they are very low but
by
no means are they quote "fake".I'm an arsonist?Interesting to note that
STEVE said that not me!Why the Hell would I want to burn your house
down?Vandilizer?NO, where is your evidence of this?All your people seem
to
know how to do is make conjectures on everything and anything!On phone
calls, once again Steve-I didn't talk to him for well over a month
after I
got angry with him over these types of issues.Some people never learn
but
dont take that out on me.Look at yourselves.Joe Fischer took the
liberty to
e-mail me around 10 times with all kinds of bullshit in his
e-mails...really
makes you think whats going on over there!Then he had the nerve to pose
as
some kind if hitman to come after the LVGHS-Scott if I were you I would
get
rid of Joe ASAP!Even on your Message Board, in the past, he has posted
rude
comments on people yet you still refer to Joe as a reputably good
person or
so it seems.Same case over here, you find assholes wherever you look,
thats
life, I put up with them as much as you put up with assholes as
well.I'm not
looking to argue with you about results or about anyones integrity but
it is
old Scott, GET OVER IT.The fact that you are downing over groups shows
you
are insecure about your own group.I dont go around writing lengthy
articles
on why the IGHS sucks or anything, if that is your opinion so be
it!What the
IGHS does in their time is their business, not anyone elses so why are
you
worrying about them?There are more then 7,000 paranormal groups in the
U.S.
right now Scott and yet Joe said to me there are "only 5 good ones" out
there.How exactly does that work out?Interesting indeed.Another thing
is why
do you make up these glamourous names for yourselves?"Technical
director"
and "Vice President of Public Relations".Your running a ghost hunting
group
Scott not Microsoft!Any public relations let the people e-mail or call
me up
and I DEFINETLY dont get a "Technical Director" last thing I need is
someone
handling a $600 digital camera and losing it on me nor do I need a
person
like Hillary Murdoch to "arrange Investigations".Scott, if your leading
the
group like I do then WHAT YOU SAY GOES!Why let Hillary say go here go
there???E-mail me back if you wish.....

-Christopher Bohar-Founder,NCPRIT
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Subject: Gloves are Coming off-FINAL WARNING


Author:
Joe Fischer
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Date Posted: 18:24:51 04/02/02 Tue
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Dearest children of NCPRIT:
Here is where we stand today. We printed some of your antics and now your falling all over yourselves running damage control. Now you are offering a truce. The funny thing is that a "truce" is something that breaks a mutually destructive campagn of aggression. The simple truth is that it does not apply here. Other than a complete and total annoyance, you are nothing more. You have had NO damaging effects on the LVGHS and we simply find it occasionally amusing to fence with you. This is a childish activity on my part for multiple reasons. Actually "fencing" is a bad description since you are obviously unarmed. In all actuality, you have about as much effect on our lives as my paper boy does. Not a whole hell of alot! Now, here's the interesting part. I hope you are reading and actually using your common sense for a change here. Since your initial idiotic and snivelling posts on our message boards, I have personally kept each and every piece of your coorespondence in my mail box. This includes the random threats regarding how you CHRIS are going to work me over! How you CHRIS are going to have your geek spirit channeller hold me down and his idiotic buddy Slappy help, while you FART in my face! Remember that one?? Hey, better yet, remember the one YOU sent to me that was from your good buddy SLAPPY? The one that includes "An interview with the LVGHS"? HUH? How about the other letters that go on an on with all sorts of vulgar and (mispelled) profanity? The only reason we never posted those was because we felt they would have been in bad taste! Guess what Bohollio? Think you got problems now? We've been kind!!!
I'm thinking the following:
I WILL POST EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF THAT ILLITERATE GARBAGE FOR ALL TO SEE! Feel free to post what I've sent you! I think the general public could use it for comparison!
TRY ME!
Oh, and another thing. I've never stooped to actually threatening you with any form of physical violence. Your comments about me keep people laughing in hysterics trying to visualize if you ever ran into me! I've seen you and your Scoobies! If you guys ever can get a ride from your parents and decide to visit me, take this piece of advise. PACK A LUNCH!
Still want to threaten me? Chris, you are one really dumb son of a @#$! if you think you can win this!!
THERE WILL BE NO TRUCE. I WILL NOT DIGNIFY THIS CAMPAIGN OF YOURS BY ENTERING INTO CONDITIONAL AGREEMENTS WITH YOU OR YOUR BAND OF LOSERS. HERE IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN>>>>>>>
YOU, SLAPPY, and that other idiot, WILL POST A FULL APOLOGY ON OUR WEBSITE AND ON YOUR WEBSITE. IT WILL NOT BE FULL OF JUSTIFIED NONSENSE BECAUSE IF IT IS, WE WILL POST EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF YOUR GROUPS UNPROVOKED RAMBLINGS THAT WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER THE FOLLOWING MONTHS!!!
YOU REALLY DONT KNOW ME CHRIS. I'VE TRIED TO BE CALM IN THE PAST. PLEASE DONT PUSH THIS.
As for everyone else who's been following this nonsense, I'd personally like to apologize for having to subject people to this type of comedy. It was felt early on that the paranormal community should be aware of who is representing them. NCPRIT claims affiliations with the IGHS and PGHS. They have NO affiliation whatsoever with the PGHS! They NEVER will and I can prove that also! It was this revelation that prompted us to post the coorespondence we recieved from this group so that no honest and professional group would accidentally soil their own image by dealing with these clowns. It should not have been allowed to go this far and I am personally very sorry it has. Hopefully the final posting of their "collection" of vivid and profane emails will bring a close to this matter. I have no longer the need nor the inclination to continue this degrading pursuit. Bohar and his bottom feeders have been warned. I sincerely hope this will be the last we have to deal with them. I hope they grow and mature as individuals and all someday realize their dream of becoming true Lawn-Care professionals. I believe they all have bright futures in this field anyway.
Sincerly
Joe Fischer
Subject: lamentations


Author:
Sue R.
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Date Posted: 18:23:44 04/01/02 Mon
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Hello. I just finished reading with interest your opinions page. For the last several months I have been searching for others who share my interests in the research of the paranormal. It is a subject that I am very serious about. I have sent e-mails to several sites, including NCPRIT, but no one ever answers. After reading your comments I'm having second thoughts. Life is just too short to be worrying about being good enough. Don't worry about nothing, because nothings alright.
Subject: Documentation & Dim Wits


Author:
Joe Fischer
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Date Posted: 17:14:29 04/01/02 Mon
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Oh well, now you did it Scott! All those months of pent up frustration dealing with threats, crank calls, and mindless postings. I guess venting was a natural outcome. What else could you do? Sadly, our system of law does not allow us to "purge" the human gene pool of contaminents at will. Until such a day arrives, we are stuck with simple documentation of another's emails and theats. Anyone who thinks we were being malicious in our openess about NCPRIT's idiotic behavior is more than welcome to write us for proof of what we've been dealing with. As for myself, these idiotsand particularly their leader, have threatened to beat me up on more than one occasion. Although it's tempting to personally visit all three at once and present them with that opportunity, we've decided to simply educate the paranormal community instead. Since I'm at it, I do have to admit I did something really childish. I visited NCPRIT's guest book today. I urge all that read this post to immediately go to that book and read the posts. Is it me or are all the favorable posts written by people with equally bad grammar and spelling as NCPRIT? Could this just be coincidence? The negative listings are perfectly clear and readable! Why is that? Also, there is some idiot that enjoy's her "counsel tations" with the leader! This same moron claims to be a Cosmotologist and Parapsychologist! That's an interesting mix! Does this person think the title "Parapsychologist" is something you randomly apply to yourself? News Flash....This "title" requires an actual education!!! GED does not count!! At bare minimum, passing third grade english is a requirement! If this person does indead exist, then one of the NCPRIT juveniles has definately found their true soulmate! I hate the fact that other reputable groups have to strive for respectablility and are constantly mired in the negative image created by so many imbeciles! Apparently some other genetic misfit has joined this Scooby Group and is going under the name of Serge. My guess is that it's one of the original geeks that have since changed yahoo I.D.'s! Figures! Juvenile-Cowardly-Snivelling-Bed Wetting-Geeks!
I can't help but wonder if all this aggression is a bi-product of pent up sexual frustration. All that energy and no outlet! Bummer huh guys?
Sorry Scott, I guess it was my turn to vent! It's a far better thing I do than the alternative!
I wonder if they saw their comic strip in the monthly newsletter? I'd love to post that! I'm told that the monthy installment has become an eagerly anticipated section! I'm sure they will provide for next month's material as well!
Joe Fischer
Subject: Teamwork


Author:
KennyB- Founder of PIRA
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Date Posted: 18:52:39 02/25/02 Mon
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I'd like to take a moment to tell you about teamwork. When I surf around the different ghost sites, I usually see teams working alone, often downplaying or even poking fun at other teams' ideas and work. Members of PIRA and the LVGHS have been working together, trading ideas, leads, and even investigating together. I feel that this is a great leap towards a common goal. Two teams, sharing what they know, helps everyone. I'm proud to be involved with the LVGHS.
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Subject: I would like to join the team


Author:
Eric Martin
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Date Posted: 08:40:32 03/20/02 Wed
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hello,

my name is eric.I am 23 years old,and i live in Reading,berks county.I am a amatuer investigator,and researcher.I have done diffrent kinds of investigations,and tons of research for diffrent things.I really think this team has a good stand point on alot of diffrent things.I also aggree that team work is best!!!!!!!!!!Please email me at ericmartin@hotmail.com
Thank you.

Eric
Subject: Cashtown Inn


Author:
Pope
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Date Posted: 17:26:43 03/19/02 Tue
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Interested in first hand accounts of hauntings at Cashtown Inn, Gettysburg (specifically, the General Lee Suite).

Thank-you!
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