VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Login ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 12345678[9]10 ]


[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 11:58:24 10/28/05 Fri
Author: manwitch
Subject: The term you are looking for is "whore chasing"
In reply to: Sunshine 's message, "Re: Bastard Xander" on 11:23:27 10/28/05 Fri

"do not make life altering decisions in the passion of the moment."

This is Buffy's position towards Riley. Riley forces, f-o-r-c-e-s, a grossly unfair ultimatum on her: Forgive my whore chasing ("whore chasing" was the term you were looking for) immediately, in fact, don't just forgive my whore-mongering quest for suck jobs behind your back while your mother was on deaths door, but acknowledge your responsibility for my actions.

In the context of what is actually happening between Riley and Buffy, Xanders intervention on Buffy is almost perfectly defined as a "petulant self-righteous sanctimonious lecture."

As Sophist points out somewhere in his 2002 blasting of Xander, Xander has access to enough information here to know or at least guess that what he is saying is inappropriate. But Xander intuits the implosion as Buffy's fault. At best, he would be willing to see it as a mutual implosion but Buffy's responsibility to fix. But he is grossly wrong and can't even be bothered to ask, let alone assume that perhaps soldier boy wronged his friend and hero.

I think what Xander says to Anya after is beautiful. Sometimes he gets it right. But he misses time and again with Buffy. Xander was so in love with Riley that he thought Buffy should be too. And Buffy took what Xander said to heart.

That she was willing to do so either proves that she really love Riley, that she has way to much respect for what Xander says, or that she was totally spent after everything she'd just been through and couldn't think straight.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]


Replies:




Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.