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I am totally sympathetic to Irish Daz, not knowing everyting -- hhh, Sat, Jan 27 2007, 18:44:12 [2]
However, if it was ME, i'd register in a Comhdhail school with no ban
He can continue to fight for his rights etc

I respect his rights and what he has been through...

We have no alternative in canada or usa, no Comdhail or virtually none

We have been "banned" from certain classes as my son was a "threat" to the favorite

We have been 'banned' from certain feiseanna as a threat to the favorite!!!!

I think his message speaks to favoritism
which we all battle...

I kind of let go of the whole thing and my son enjoys ID to the best of his ability..

We are getting satisfaction out of danceouts, etc
This is not meant to be negative toward anyone
Rather, it is meant to be positive and helpful

So in that spirit, I stick my neck out and write this message

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- switching to An Comhdhail means she loses all her friendships, and no longer competes against the same people so has no way of knowing whether she has improved or not. And being a top dancer, but new to the federation, she could still suffer a backlash of politics to protect the long serving Comhdhail dancers, which she went through for years with An Coimisiun (NT) -- as have many others, Sat, Jan 27 2007, 20:06:18
ST Bernadettes (Manchester) THIS WEEKEND!!! -- Feis For Flame (Sending sick kids to Lourdes), Fri, Jan 26 2007, 14:18:13 [1]
St. Bernadette's Feis is this weekend in Manchester. All proceeds are for FLAME - an organisation who fund sick childreen to go to Lourdes. Accomodation:

Premier Travel Inn (5 mins from venue)
Christie Fields Office Park,
Derwent Avenue,/Princes Parkway,
Didsbury,
0161 - 249 - 5000

Travel Lodge (10 mins from venue)
Kingsway(A34)
Parswood Multi Complex,
Didibury,
0870 - 191 - 1662

Address of Venue:
Brookway High School,Altrincham Road,
Sale,
Manchester

Also, The Britannia Hotel, Northernden (details already posted)

All details of timetable, etc. on Maureen Onesti's website and NW website.

PAY ON THE DAY

COME ON DOWN FOR A GREAT CAUSE!

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Would like to wish Ellie O'Sullivan from Maguire O'Shea a very very Happy Birthday. Hope to see you soon -- Lil Miss Bovvered, Thu, Jan 25 2007, 22:09:03 [3]

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- many happy returns Ellie, (NT) -- Bridie, Fri, Jan 26 2007, 0:28:19
- Happy 10th Birthday Ellie, Hope to see you soon. (NT) -- Love Leah xxx, Fri, Jan 26 2007, 5:51:12
Almost every school I know has teachers who do not have a TC teach for them at times, sometimes fairly often. I don't think these schools can survive without them. Why is everyone so eager to expose these situations and say they are wrong? I know that there is a rule that says it shouldn't happen but we all know it does so maybe the rule is too stringent? -- just a thought, Mon, Jan 22 2007, 17:11:11 [10]
If this situation were truly not allowed, it would have a terrible affect on many schools and dancers as so many now function with additional teachers.

Many non-TC teachers are excellent and parents and dancers are happy with the situation but I know some who are not. Maybe the solution is that the TC must disclose how many classes or how often they are not taught by TC and who the non-cert teacher will be before registering for the class/school? Maybe the officiall rules should make some allowance for non-cert teachers with clear limits on when they can be used instead of disallowing them altogether?

Just some examples, once a month a sub may be used, non cert may be used for beginners, 3/4 of all classes must be taught by TC... at the very least, an allowance for sick/vacation/emergency to be covered by non-cert. teachers. It seems there should be some flexibility here but also honest disclosure to the parents and dancers.

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- This makes a lot of sense. It would in most cases be better then canceling classes. And better then having TCs rushing from one class to cover another, because of illness or hols. Would need to have parents given full knowledge of rules for this though, to stop the less fair TCs taking advantage by over use of non-cert teachers. (NT) -- wishwillow, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 5:46:29
  - On the other hand how would you feel if the TC decided "your" class was too far and never attended. You wouldn't get the same attention, as other dancers in the same school and potentially not progress as far. You might feel that it would be better to move schools so that you could get more tuition from the qualified TC, but hey presto up pops another rule that they never go against - transfer ban. Would that be fair? (NT) -- happened to us, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 9:48:13
    - no, it definitely isn't fair but if your TC doesn't go to your location anymore, you are free to go without a transfer if req'd distance to nearest class is met. I know schools where this has happened recently in UK and US and dancers had free transfer. No letters given in one of the situations so dancers who didn't know the rules where stuck. (NT) -- ones who knew got out free, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 22:15:36
      - each situation differs. In our case one of the two "local" classes (45 min + drive minimum) continued, so the nearest class was still "only" 35 miles. All other classes at least 125 miles (in UK a 3 hour drive minimum). Still banned as we had one local class per week (NT) -- inconsistent?, Wed, Jan 24 2007, 8:57:52
- I don't thionk people particularly want to expose this. It is more a case of showing that all rules can have reasonable exceptions but CLRG don't allow them when it benefits a dancer (eg transfer in awkward situations as above) (NT) -- rules need revamp, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 9:50:49
- The reason for this rule is to stop unqualified people teaching. It is very easy to injure a young dancer if you don't know what you are doing. However what might work would be a student teacher system, where those studying for their TC would be able to teach sometimes. This is how it's done in the ballet world (NT) -- .., Wed, Jan 24 2007, 11:21:33
  - As far as I know, there is nothing in the TC exams relating to dancers' physical safety. You could therefore have a non-TC who is experienced in this department and a TC who is not. (NT) -- I don't think the qualification makes a difference., Wed, Jan 24 2007, 23:27:58
- I think our Non-TC teachers are better than the TCs, more in touch and more current champs (NT) -- cc, Thu, Jan 25 2007, 0:29:59
  - I think your experience is pretty common. (NT) -- Rules need revising!, Thu, Jan 25 2007, 5:12:47
Ok, So what do you all think of a Dance coach. personally if I couls find one I'd use one my daughter is talented with drawing and arts. So I get her a tutor. But to me it seems than having a dance coach is a sin It's all underground no-one will admit in public to having a coach why???? -- Tickled pink, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 19:46:08 [10]

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- Could you define what you mean by a dance coach, and who would fit that profile? Another student? Same school? Different school? Details, please! (NT) -- Thanks., Mon, Jan 22 2007, 5:48:55
- I know many who do this but it is all kept secret. Not sure why it is so upsetting that dancers want to better themselves except that TC's must take offense that the dancer and parent don't think that the TC is enough? (NT) -- dance tutor, Mon, Jan 22 2007, 16:50:54
  - Dance tutor I know you can't give out too much info on boards but where are you situated and what are your prices (NT) -- interested, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 21:36:07
    - They are everwhere and prices vary. I've heard as little as $10 for an hour and up to $40. (NT) -- good luck!, Tue, Jan 23 2007, 22:11:36
- My daughter thrives on one to one situations, so feel a dance tutor who go through the finer points of the use of the stage, etc would be good our tcs are FANTASTIC and wouldn't change schools for the world but there isn't always time to teach the finer things if dancing at class. (NT) -- tp, Mon, Jan 22 2007, 19:26:27
  - never say never, you never can tell what's coming and you really have no alternative but to consider moving your dd (NT) -- been there, Mon, Jan 22 2007, 22:54:44
    - I've always told my daughter that I would rather she gave up dancing than change school. I know this sounds harsh, however from the feedback I hear about children changing schools I'd hate that experience for my daughter (NT) -- thanks, Wed, Jan 24 2007, 22:36:18
      - Changing schools it tough, but well worth it in many cases. I choose to teach my kids not to unvoid unpleasantness if it is good for them in the long run. Many do quit though out of fear. Switching schools can be a good life lesson. (NT) -- I said never once too!, Thu, Jan 25 2007, 5:11:15
- Is this different than 'privates'. We had a dancer really excel after she started taking ballet (NT) -- cc, Thu, Jan 25 2007, 0:31:38
Rules just been put on irish dancer web site. Go to www.irish-dancer.co.uk -- Bridie, Sun, Dec 03 2006, 17:49:36 [14]

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- Speaking of the Rules. It has been requested that I remove the rulebook from Irish Dancer. Should I? I've decided to take a Poll of the dancing world to see what you think. Place your vote on www.irish-dancer.co.uk at the top. If you can't see a link refresh the page! (NT) -- Irishdaz, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 14:12:09
- Thank you for the info. I guess some organisations have forgotten there is now a freedom of information law in this country, I am pretty sure that knowing the rules won't lead to a breakdown in national security. At least I hope not, ;-} (NT) -- Bridie, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 14:49:54
  - Who is it that wants it removed (NT) -- Intrigued, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 14:58:41
    - The Chairman of An Coimisiun (NT) -- see the Poll, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 15:04:59
  - here is also a Freedom of Info act in the USA, Canada, Ireland, the Uk etc. yet AC and its subsidiaries don't seem to be governed by it ;o) (NT) -- keep asking for info, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 15:43:00
    - How are people meant to keep the rules if they are a secret and we do not know what the rules are? (NT) -- Daft, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 19:51:50
- So if he doesn't remove the rules what are they going to do to him. Ummmm lets see. Maybe ban his daughter from dancing. Come on lets get real here, so we can see the rules what are we going to do. Most of us who have children dancing daren't breathe too hard in case our chil/dren gets penalised by adj or tcs. Because its for our children. So I say let the rules stay. (NT) -- Shelley, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 20:17:34
  - bump, I think this very important as IrishDaz took time to let us know about this across the boards. As I said to a friend recently I'm trusting to Bob Dylan in that "the times they are a'changing" (NT) -- Bridie, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 20:38:06
  - didn't they already figure out a way of banning his daughter. I thought that's what prompted the rules posting to begin with (NT) -- ??, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 19:43:42
- Irishdaz has now put the letter on the poll page for us to read (NT) -- MODer, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 15:53:27
  - It seems there is some cheating going on. I've had one person vote 3 times to remove them. No duplicates for keeping them (NT) -- funny that!, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 20:14:57
- Hi Guys, I've updated the info on Irish dancer about my recent correspondence with the governing bodies MRC & CLRG, in case you are interested! (NT) -- Irishdaz, Sat, Jan 20 2007, 14:52:50
  - Thanks for update (NT) -- Moder, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 0:11:30
congratulations to U13 Girls another tough age group. Here are the results if I have any wrong please excuse me it's not deliberate.1. Katherine Vincent 2 Caitlin Heed 3 Aimee Rolph 4 Meghan Ryan 5 Francessa Rollanson Buckley 6?? 7 Shannen McDermot 8 Jessica Dunne 9. Olivia Graydon 10. Gabrielle Nurseand Sarah Farrell 13 Rebecca Keegan 14 Tammy Dennis -- observer, Sat, Jan 20 2007, 20:42:51 [5]

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- Fantastic age group, Think Olivia Graydon came 7th. here are the numbers of the recalled final placings, 1st . 61 - 2nd. 52 - 3rd. 69 - 4th. 58 - 5th. 85 - 6th. 89 - 7th. 55 - 8th. 49 - 9th. 64 - 10th. 63 - 11th. 51 &56 - 13th. 65 - 14th. 60. these are from the marks sheet, sorry lost my feis book with names so can' tally with numbers. Well done all especially Caitlin, Olivia, and Jazz, (NT) -- wishwillow, Sat, Jan 20 2007, 23:35:33
- sorry Olivia was 9th, got numbers mixed up. (NT) -- wishwillow, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 0:36:47
- Good result Owen, u/13 boys, well deserved. David, Nial and Liam, u/11 boys. All MOS who placed today, and very best to all dancing tomorrow (NT) -- wishwillow, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 1:01:28
  - Megan Ryan 3rd Olivia Graydon 6th (NT) -- x, Sun, Jan 21 2007, 18:43:37
anyone no where i can find motion pics of dancers?! i found a website once but seem to have lost it!! -- dancer, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 21:59:50 [5]

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- a couple i found, don't know if these are the type you mean. www.taylorsirishnight.com/irish_dancing_video.html - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-JAP7Kf1cI - http://www.myspace.com - Hope this helps (NT) -- wishwillow, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 1:50:54
- go to google.com, type in irish dance , then press 'videos' -- xx, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 11:25:03
  - hope this helps (NT) -- www.dephoto.co.uk, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 22:53:26
- http://www.seaneireannmcmahon.co.uk/exhibit.htm -- Dancer, Sat, Jan 20 2007, 11:19:45
More Pre-loved dresses added to Feisanne -- Anne Craig, Tue, Jan 16 2007, 17:43:13 [12]
Please take a look, there may be something in your size and price range

http://feisanne.blogspot.com/

Thanks

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- Hi just sent you an e-mail. Thank you the dress has now been sold . Thanks to your site (NT) -- Shelley, Tue, Jan 16 2007, 17:44:29
  - Is Shelly actually Anne? Because you seem to be everywhere Anne is........ (NT) -- hmmmm, Wed, Jan 17 2007, 17:45:33
  - Wondering which dress was yours Shelly that was sold so fast? (NT) -- curious, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 3:51:43
    - I am wondering too...... (NT) -- curious mom #2, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 7:02:53
    - It's the red and white dress on Anne's site sold 14-01-07. Don't know why all the interest it's just another dress that's been sold. But thanks for you interests (NT) -- Shelley, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 10:33:33
      - I've put in the heading for the dress that it's now sold, it's the 3rd one down on the right hand side and I'm sure the Mod can confirm that neither Shelley nor myself are the same person by looking at the IP nos and as I am using my own name and anyone who knows Shelley and her DD will know who she is then I can categorically confirm that we're not the same person. (NT) -- Anne Craig, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 15:00:21
        
        Knowing Shelly and dd it's quite funny to think anyone would wonder if she and Anne are the same person. Though as we all have dd we certainly have same hassels over the years, ;} (NT) -- wishwillow, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 16:15:14
- no annie and I are different peeps. Just out of interest why are you interested? (NT) -- shelley, Wed, Jan 17 2007, 21:39:41
- Just to confirm that the IP addresses for Shelly and Anne are different as Anne states. (NT) -- Moder, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 15:57:08
  - Goodness me! I know we have all had to become used to secret goings on and double dealings in the world of I.D but some people see a conspiracy theory in everything!!!! (NT) -- observer, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 16:53:34
    - lol, isn't that the truth (NT) -- wishwillow, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 21:38:04
Anyone know why all ireland and worlds list of ajudicator are not up, other feis have to have list of ajs when they put out their syllabus -- wishwillow, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 21:05:39 [1]

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Good luck to all for the hennigan o'loughlin feis this weekend -- wishwillow, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 1:36:36 [4]

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- Good Luck to all age groups especially our best mate Aisleen. We love you and we'll definitely be there rooting for you hun. (NT) -- Tickled Pink, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 10:27:23
  - thank you, but would be really nice to have a certain someone, dance and root instead. lol (NT) -- Aisleen, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 20:14:47
- Does anyone know what % of recall for Hol feis tomorrow please. ? (NT) -- Thanks in advance for any information, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 17:14:19
Can anyone help I need to know who the adjs for the O'Mordha feis are. I've tried Mcgahan lees but there seems to be an error opening the syllabus and Instepfm. haven't yet got the syllabus -- HELP, Thu, Jan 18 2007, 21:02:03 [3]

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- Got these from Mcgahan lees syllabus link -- Moder, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 16:49:56
  - Thank you so much, This really does help (NT) -- op, Fri, Jan 19 2007, 17:05:15
Does any1 have full res of recalled dancers u11 in maynooth at wkd please -- thank you, Wed, Jan 17 2007, 17:53:17 [1]

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............It is my intention that the website will be all inclusive.............. Quote taken from CLRG website, anyone care to guess at the new meaning of 'all inclusive'? -- MODer, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 2:47:06 [2]

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- Inclusive for those who are in on the secret! (NT) -- sshhhhhh..........., Mon, Jan 15 2007, 19:55:32
If anyone has any results from Maynooth this weekend. Please post thank you. Particularly looking for the u9s an u13s. -- Tickled Pink, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 19:48:18 [4]

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- 1st Cyra Taylor 2nd Rebekah Bell 3rd Matthew Gardiner 4th Curtis Long 5th Annmarie Coll (NT) -- spectator, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 20:55:56
- U12 girls 1st etain Mulvenna, 2nd Mary mcevoy Morgan U12 Boys 1st Shane dignan 2nd caolan Mckeating Lynch 3rd Eoghan Murphy U11 1st Shaun Ryan Boys U11 1st Ciaran Kilkenny. U13 boys 1st Joe Bitter 2nd Owen Sherman (NT) -- U13 anyone?, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 21:41:24
  - well done ryan (NT) -- ryan stevenson taylor academy won u15 boys, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 19:14:21
u 18 - 1st sarah woods 2nd rachael mc ginley 3rd danielle guiden 4th deirdre o reilly 5th sarah sloyan -- dance babe!!, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 15:38:18 [1]

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u 17 - 1st simona mauriello 2nd claire greany 3rd girl frm elaine kavanagh 4th kim kelly 5th claire mc dermott -- :), Mon, Jan 15 2007, 15:36:57 [1]

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Results Under 9 Maynooth -- Mum, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 11:45:28 [3]
1st Cyra Taylor - McConomy
2nd Rebecca Bell - O'Donoghue
3rd Matthew Gardiner - Hession
4th Curtis Long - Doherty-Reid
5th Anna Marie Coll - Ceim Oir
6th Taylor Lee Keating - Sheila Hayes
7th Leah Pillinger Biddlecombe - Maguire O'Shea
8th Tara McCoy - Armstrong
9th Gemma Crawford - Doherty-Reid
10th Erin McGinn - Kennedy
11th Cliodhna McLaughlin - Doherty-Reid
12th Irene Rose Monaghan - Ard Rialla
13th Abbey Murray - Doherty Reid
14th Jack Quinn - Ui She
15th Ben McHugh - Mona Ni Rodaigh
16th Eileen Barry - Sylvan Kelly
17th Shona Fahy - Ui Ruairc
18th Rebecca Conneely - Hession
19th Eve Sheridan - Hession
20th Fionnuala Harkin - Coleman
21st Tara McBarron - Kiely Walsh
22nd Rhiannon Gilvarry - Ui She
23rd Karl Murphy - Gillian Adams
24th Orla Shaughnessy - Pauline Fegan
25th Clodagh Rabbit - Hession
26th Tara Kose - Teresa O'Donoghue
27th Stephanie Doyle - Mary O'Connor

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- how many danced in this age group (NT) -- karen, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 13:10:30
- any1 know u7 and u8 results please (NT) -- thanks, Mon, Jan 15 2007, 13:19:23
Anyone know where full results will be for this wkends irish feis please? -- wishwillow, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 18:17:58 [4]

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- Well done this weekend to Leah Pinnegar Biddlecombe on 7th place in the championship. and to Owen Sherman 2nd in the boys u13s. Great start to the year (NT) -- Tickled Pink, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 19:42:43
- Thanks tp, as you say great start to the year (NT) -- MODer, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 20:00:59
- Just got a txt Simona won ger age group. Well done Fantastic young lady great dancer. Congrats to every-one ele who danced this weekend. (NT) -- tickled pink, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 23:41:17
hi can anyone tell me who made Charllen Foley's (aaron crosbie school)black and green dress. -- maggie, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 0:05:43 [3]

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- same person that made Maisie Bishops i think? (NT) -- x, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 22:13:50
  - no i know who makes maisie's dress and not same person. (NT) -- maggie, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 22:30:55
If anyone's in the market for a new custom dress this one starts at $850.00http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220071356226 -- on ebay, Sun, Jan 14 2007, 16:09:17 [1]

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Bridie Just wanted to say - hope this board goes well. Thought the Mod on the other board was a little petty with you on a recent post. Mod is good and fair majority of the time on 174296 and I am sure the job is not the easiest, but the rule of being polite should cover ALL. -- LolaBolaBear, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 21:27:05 [20]

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- Thank you very much for that, she/he? probable didn't mean to sound a little sharp, it can be hard to get things across the right way with just written word, and the Mod there maybe getting tough emails that we don't know about. I didn't take it personally, and like you I really like the board there. I just feel that stuff needs to be talked about sometimes and more importantly in the open, otherwise we all go thinking that's 'it's just me'. So it's nice to know it's not and that others can be driven crazy with us. :>} (NT) -- Bridie, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 21:53:30
- Yes, none of us know what goes on behind the scenes. Anyway it seems to be going well so far and unlike other new boards, I am sure this one will not fade into obscurity. It seems well used so far. (NT) -- LBB, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 22:31:41
- Sometimes what seems petty to others seem important to other people. I agree with Mod on this board maybe other mod didn't mean to be sharp. But we all get a bit stressed at times and say things in a manner we wouldn't usually. But i do agree I think this board will keep runnin and running. Good luck for the feis season all (NT) -- Shelley, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 22:36:19
- I like the 60473 board because the Mod lets topics be discussed but doesn't allow anything mean to stay. I'm glad to see another board that won't remove everything but will allow discussion and differences of opinion. The other one is a bit too cautious to the point of being frustrating. (NT) -- Good luck!, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 23:31:16
  - The other one ios cautious because after nearly 8 yrs they know what will and won't attract e-ms from TC's getting annoyed about what's written! Whem yuou receive so many e-ms threatening legal action, I guess erring on caution is the best policy. We'll wait and see what happens when it starts happening with this board. Because believe me it will, as soon as TC's and officials twig on that it's here they'll be scouring and wanting to know IP nos etc etc.. (NT) -- ANother Mod, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 5:04:40
- Just been having a look at the msg board and it looks good, will pop in regularly. (NT) -- Bridie, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 4:05:07
- Imo you should read the response from the worldwide board about copying and stealing clipart from at least three irish boards. (NT) -- how rude!, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 4:29:39
- You seemed to have lost me (not hard to do) but exactly which board, ie: board number and where. Also nothing stolen as I followed links given on another board, and at the bottom of this one to a site that is open for all to use, provided credit is given to the site where it originated and links if possible. (NT) -- Bridie, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 5:11:23
  - I think it's just being pointed out that you've used the same rainbow lines from the UK Board, the Happy New Year from the WR board and the balloons from the MAIDs board. The link you've used has more than enough animations to not use the same as other boards. There's so many you could def be more creative. (NT) -- ANother Mod, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 5:12:26
    - I agree. If you want to be respected by other mods you don't go and copy their clipart, which I noticed too. Playing dumb on the ww board won't earn you respect either. You know darn well which boards you took from and then had the gall to advert on! (NT) -- I agree, very rude and tacky, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 20:43:12
- OH MY GOODNESS!!!! How petty! Who cares if Mod here has the same balloons - BALLOONS for crying out loud! - as other boards! I think Bridie should be supported by Mods from other boards, not have some coming on here making snipes about "Stealing" clipart! Now that's what I call RUDE! Get a life! (NT) -- LBB, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 13:54:21
  - Oh dear, someone's got out ot the wrong side of the bed this morning. 'Get a Life' is the most commonly used and least imaginative term on the voy boards. It's not so much a criticism but pointing out that each board has it's own identity and using the same stuff as others, when there's soooooo much available was avoidable. The Mod is being supported by other Mods, just pointing out 'message board ettiquette' :o) (NT) -- Old timer, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 14:49:39
    - Re Get A Life -- old_dancemum, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 23:43:54
- Old Timer - The term "Get a Life" IS used a lot on Voy boards, probably because that is exactly what some posters need to do, rather than spending time and energy putting negative comments onto another person and being nasty about silly things like clip art!! The sad thing here is that it shows that the nastiness and bitchiness doesn't come from Irish Dancing, but some of the people involved, who will obviously take their narrow petty thoughts to all tables. Lets all support Bridie in her venture and not strive to bring her down before she has even begun!!! (NT) -- LBB, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 12:29:05
  - And you posting it on here for what was a valid and reasonable request makes you better than those people who perhaps don't have much more of a life than using the boards? I myself have a very full and interesting life and I readily admit that the boards play some part in that life. I use them to leave msgs for friends, to see what's happening in ID etc etc. I suggest you pay a visit to some of the 'pageant boards' if you want to read about people who really need to get out more! This apparently started off on one board as a gentle, not nasty, pointer to make this board different from the rest....which is what the Mod was advertising.....we come here and find that we could have logged onto one of 3 other boards. If a board's going to be 'different' then 'make it so' in the words of Jean Picard :oP (NT) -- Old timer, with a life, thanks., Sat, Jan 13 2007, 15:36:46
    - That's Jean Luc Picard :oP (NT) -- Old timer, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 15:37:59
- Old Timer - I don't profess to be "better" than anyone else. I too like checking out the boards for info and debate. I think the problem is that people take voy too seriously. Accusations of "Stealing" clip art etc etc Don't take my comments as a personal attack on you, they are in response to you. After all that is what these boards are about. I think that given time this board may well be different and posters should give it a chance to evolve instead of making criticisms about a bunch of balloons that we might catch sight of for a split second before scrolling down. (NT) -- LBB, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 18:25:43
  - Hey girlies -- dance mum, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 19:47:24
- Thanks for all the support from vaious posters, Can I just say in the hope of letting everyone get back to more serious debates that I have contracted other Mods supposedly involved, made appologies for unintended (and it was)plagerisms and they have been both supportive and generous. (NT) -- Bridie, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 20:32:04
when does the 'season' start for new dresses -- Bridie, Thu, Jan 04 2007, 2:09:37 [23]

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- I'd like to know that, and also to what's going to be the new in fashion (NT) -- shelley, Thu, Jan 04 2007, 12:06:09
- I think the "season" starts anytime nowadays, though a lot of dancers get new dress for all-irelands, Worlds or regional Qualifiers. The trend seems to be "anything goes" with lots of different styles out there (NT) -- dn, Thu, Jan 04 2007, 22:46:52
  - Would a custom solo made for NANs still be in style for the O? (NT) -- not that I would buy another then (!!), just wondering..., Thu, Jan 04 2007, 23:55:00
- It depends on what you consider to be 'in style' (NT) -- Any thing goes, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 9:20:43
- DD is US dancers - We'd prefer to wait until our regional qualifier, but.. -- mom, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 13:30:52
- Perhaps a little forward thinking on the part of buyers would stop dressmakers having such a rush towards O's and NANs etc? not pointing fingers or trying to cause trouble here .. more inside -- Lee in Darwin, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 8:39:43
  - so agree with Lee, but have heard of some people having trouble getting styles they wanted and having to give in to either the dressmaker or their own TCs (NT) -- Bridie, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 21:50:17
    - I suppose that as I am in a remote part of Australia where we don't get to do any comps anyway we are a little spoilt to do as we please.. -- Lee in Darwin, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 2:49:54
      - I wonder if I am talking to the correct LEE??? Is that you!!!??? (NT) -- BethUSA, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 6:12:17
        
        could be me..hows Cassidy? .. email me and we will know... .lol... (NT) -- Lee in Darwin, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 9:18:00
        
        How funny. I will email you later tonight when all kids are sleeping and I can actually sit! (NT) -- Beth, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 21:14:54
- It looks to me like there are a lot of reasonably new and absolutely gorgeous dresses being sold at the moment -- Aiimeska, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 1:15:55
  - So true, but I think a lot of us are reluctent to buy because of the changing trends and worried that we end up with dated dresses. Some are not very cheap, considering they are seconds, even though we know what they would have cost originally. (NT) -- Bridie, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 19:27:00
    - Exactly! DD got a new dress ordered at NANs 05 for Oireachtas 05. It was out of date before Worlds 06 (when all the ruffles and wraps caught on) Less than 4 months later! It was the most popular trend, from most popular dressmaker when we ordered! (NT) -- Very frustrating, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 21:39:44
- My take on these in and out of fashion is that if your child is number 1 certain schools seems to have a say in what style/ colour dress that child wears. -- shelley, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 22:59:36
  - excellent point (NT) -- Bridie, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 23:06:35
  - Just another quick point, why do parents always ask is it a Gavin etc, why can't someone just say oh! I like your daughters dress. When they ask I'm always Proud to say Loretta made it, this isn't an advert for Loretta she certailnly doesn't need it but my point is taht some parents like myself don't know one dressmakeer from another I just know what I like and don't Sorry just having a rant and rave. Hope no-one minds if you do just rant back at me. (NT) -- Shelley, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 23:19:53
    - thats exactly how I feel too Shelley... I am glad the idea is starting to spread that the dress should be what suits your daughter / your wallet / and then your TCs wishes .. sure they should have input as it is still their school name out there, but they should not have the right to dictate what we buy from who. thats my soap box for today...lol (NT) -- Lee in Darwin, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 9:21:24
- whatever happened to picking out or designing a dress that fits our dd's personality? (NT) -- instead of boas and such, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 23:41:03
- I think it is funny how the first wrap dress was made to be "different" and now so many have them, they all look the same with ruffles and almost no applique, the "old" three panel dresses actually make the dancer stand out in the crowd! (NT) -- can't tell one ruffled dd from another!, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 1:09:37
  - Wraps and Ruffles -- old_dancemum, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 0:01:23
- I just saw a $2200 dress with boa's that has only been worn for 2 comps. It came too small & the flowers that stick out were all fraying. There is about 10 total appliques on it in just circles, probably digitized. The feathers were already starting to look tattered. Dress looked very used & I know the family is extremely careful with it. There will be people lined up to buy this because of who made it and it's the 'newest' thing. I would have a hard time paying that much for something that is going to last, I can't fathom paying it for something someone is going to need to follow me around with a broom. The soft capes are back, we should see key single capes pouring in soon. Hang on a year and your dated dress will be all the rage (NT) -- full circle, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 5:18:43
My daughter was LUCKY enough to win a prelim last year at a feis in Manchester. Unfortunately we won't be able to go this year, and no-one from our school is going, how much does postage cost. From London -- shelley, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 22:40:48 [8]

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- Try and see if there is anyone from one of the many other schools in London going. (NT) -- Most parents will help, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 9:34:06
  - Which feis is it? Do you mind telling us? When is it? The school's TCs or a dancer from that school could probably pick it up from you, or from someone from your school. Maybe one of your TCs would be kind enough to take it over to the AI for you. Posting it & insuring it would probably cost you an absolute fortune (NT) -- OSR Mum, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 12:36:45
    - D'uh! Sorry, blonde moment! When I said that they could pick it up from you, I meant from a feis that you or your school will be attending (NT) -- **, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 12:39:20
- Hi OSR Mum it was the O'mordha feis February last year (NT) -- shelley, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 19:27:15
  - Hi again, well maybe you could get your TCs to contact Stella & ask her if she has any dancers attending Clondalkin, HOL, All Ireland or Trainor feises, assuming that either you or anyone from your school will be attending any of these feises & get the cup back to her there. This is pretty standard procedure & also means that the cup will be safely returned well before the feis. Hope this helps& hope you have plenty of lovely pics of your DD with the cup! (NT) -- OSR Mum, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 12:24:41
- Hi I am playing at the All Ireland and at the Stella's feis if it is of any help you could get the cup to me and I will certainly take it to Stella for you. I will be at the All Ireland from 3rd - 8th Feb. (NT) -- Ann Murray (Musician), Sat, Jan 13 2007, 1:20:14
  - Hi THANK YOU do much I really appreciate your kind offer (NT) -- Shelley, Sat, Jan 13 2007, 1:27:07
Welcome all to yet another new Irish Dance forum. -- Bridie, Sun, Dec 03 2006, 5:07:12 [7]
I hope you will all enjoy your stay here and make the most of this forum. As I get better aquainted with this site I hope to improve it look and running. Any suggestions, (nice ones please) will be appreciated. Look forward to chatting with you.

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- Are you a child? (NT) -- ?, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 4:41:25
- only of the universe (NT) -- Bridie, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 5:14:41
- Oh that reply tickled me. Good to know some people have a wicked sense of humor (NT) -- Tickled pink, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 5:56:19
  - Children, especially toddlers love to be tickled. (NT) -- now we know who we're dealing with, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 20:49:16
- everyone should take care of their inner child, and the occassional tickle doesn't hurt either. ;) (NT) -- Bridie, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 21:57:18
- hey lets all have a sense of humour. Life is tough enough. (NT) -- tickled pink, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 23:55:25
Very cute championship dress for age 6 to 9 for sale -- **, Fri, Jan 12 2007, 23:09:42 [1]
All details can be found on www.maureenonesti.co.uk - dress sale page 8 ref 218

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Hi mod can we put dresses up for sale on your site. I have three dresses for sale one-bay and ? -- Shelley, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 20:54:37 [23]

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- Its me shelley again can anyone tell me where else I can advertise my dresses. I've advertised on mcgahan lees dance again and e-bay, but not having much luck. Thanks for any advise (NT) -- shelley, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 0:27:29
  - Could your price be too high? if you have already listed it in so many places without any luck, maybe the price if putting people off? (NT) -- Just a suggestion., Wed, Jan 10 2007, 1:12:11
- You are welcome to put up dresses for sale here, I want this to be an open forum for everything of ID. Everyone is welcome to take part and use as their need or fancy sees fit. (NT) -- Bridie, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 3:59:10
- Hi Shelley .. have you thought about dance again.. always seems to be a lot of movement from there. (NT) -- Lee in Darwin, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 8:27:54
- Irishdancingexchange.com is also a great place. They have a 'new's letter that dumps pictures of the new dresses in email boxes of subscribers & lots of search options (NT) -- love the site, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 23:47:25
  - Thank you so much for putting me on that site. I have now advertised one of my dresses. (NT) -- Shelley, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 4:08:48
- you can try www.reelcutters.com I hear she actually takes them feis to feis for a small fee. (NT) -- I will be contacting her myself I am almost ready to sell, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 5:25:59
  - That is a really good idea, I may do that too with one of my older dresses. (NT) -- Nancy B, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 6:08:19
  - Try e-bay but be careful as there are a few bidders who want to knock you down to nothing. I know there are genuine bidders however you can look at the items they've bought over the past 6 months. Also check the bidders on other dresses and see if they are the same one bidding on yours. If you get the asking price you don't mind but when they constantly bombard you with reducing the price it gets irritating. Good Luck though. (NT) -- Shelley, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 23:15:43
    - I never sold my dress on ebay, but I won one. Never received it. Got my $$$ back 6 months later! He was a scam, he did it to 12 people who bought dresses. (NT) -- so disappointed, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 23:41:01
    - How the heck do bidders knock down the price of a dress? It would be up to the seller to reduce the price. If no one is bidding, maybe priced too high, or not the right market. Do put a RESERVE price on the dress if you have a min $ you want (NT) -- cc, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 18:05:17
      - and another thing -- just because a buyer only buys 1 or 2 dresses from ebay a year, or this is their 1st experience with it, doesn't mean that they are not genuine bidders (NT) -- cc, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 18:08:56
      - After they win it, they contact you and ask you to come down a bit. (NT) -- But it just takes a little guts to tell them no., Wed, Jan 10 2007, 12:48:38
        
        How NERVEY!!! I hope you reported them as non-pays to ebay. (NT) -- cc, Thu, Jan 11 2007, 2:59:47
- Hi Shelley. You can put your dresses on my Blog, no fee required http://feisanne.blogspot.com/ (NT) -- Anne Craig, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 15:56:57
  - Thanks Feisanne. I was one of the first to use your site when it first came up, it sold in about 12 hours. THANK YOU SO MUCH (NT) -- Shelley, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 18:16:22
    - Why doesn't the e-mail facility work on this board? :oS If you go to my Blog you can find my e-mail on my Profile and send me any details. Not putting it openly on here, sorry. (NT) -- Anne Craig, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 21:07:14
      - Sorry about the email prob. I'm new to this so still trying to get things to run right. hope to correct that asap (NT) -- Bridie, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 21:35:50
    - Hi Shelley, Why post a question you knew the answer to?-If you had such success there why waste your $$$ everywhere else? (NT) -- Curious, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 2:57:00
      - Basically because Shelley didn't know I'd opened my site again... well a different version of it, perhaps?? Why so grouchy? (NT) -- Anne Craig, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 3:22:33
        
        exactly, Sometimes you can't remember everything. Well Ican't anyway. But thanks for you question (NT) -- shelley, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 4:51:17
        I wasn't being grouchy at all, just curious because we spend so much $$$ on advertising our dresses, why not go to the first place you had success? (NT) -- not grouchy, just paying attention ;), Tue, Jan 09 2007, 6:27:41
Hi Feisanne, it's Shelley whenever I try to e-mail you it gets returned -- Shelley, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 19:11:21 [3]

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- Hi Shelley, I have a feeling that Feisanne is having some problems with her computer at the moment. I'll drop her a text & let her know that you have been trying to contact her (NT) -- OSR Mum, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 22:08:10
- Thanks OSR Mum (NT) -- Shelley, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 22:33:28
Trainor Feis 2007 available now on - http://www.professionalfeispromotions.co.uk/trainorfeishomepage.html -- Bridie, Wed, Jan 10 2007, 0:29:16 [1]

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Any body got a good site of dancing pictures apart from feis pix.com ? thank you -- wee_munster, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 15:14:56 [5]

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- These people have just done a couple of feis, while photos from the first weren't too great they have definately made progress. In time we may see a rival to feis pics, though at the moment I think they are still the leaders. http://www.dephoto.co.uk/ (NT) -- Bridie, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 16:15:59
- Have to say feis pix will continue to get my overall support very nice people and they are always willing to help, no matter what the problem (NT) -- shelley, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 16:48:49
  - no i love the feis pix site to see how all my friends and family are doing but i have seen them all now and just wanted to no if there was anouther site thank you xx (NT) -- wee_munster, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 18:16:16
- thank you very much x x x x x (NT) -- wee_munster, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 18:14:35
Beautiful Open Championship Dress For Sale -- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Tue, Jan 09 2007, 0:26:07 [1]
Beautiful open championship dress for sale to view go to www.maureenonesti.co.uk go to for sale page 8 item 212.
would suit 9/11yrs.

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What do people think is the future of ID? Is all the controversy going to change things, Will the numbers drop? or will it contiune ot grow stronger each year? -- Interested in your thoughts!, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 12:22:56 [4]

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- From thinks I've read on various posts it seems there is a lull in numbers at the moment. I would hope that the 'powers' that be take note, and be sure that ID remains true to it's roots in terms of dance steps and dress styles. (NT) -- Bridie, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 16:21:46
- I'd like to see a huge change in ID, firstly I'd like to see all dancers rewarded for their dancing on the day not their name and dance school. I'd love to see the improvement at certain feis,i.e One feis we went to had an entry on the day for dancers who didn't recall to allow them the chance to do their sets. How much more inconvieneient would that be. I donn't think number will drop significantly as we all moan about it, myself included however we still continue feisin and hoping things improve the powers that be seem to overlook the fact that for most parents it's about their CHILDREN. (NT) -- shelley, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 16:47:19
- I agree that while we all moan about it - we love it. Hopefully though womeone from CLRG will take notice of the discontent and make changes? (NT) -- OP, Mon, Jan 08 2007, 12:23:36
Good luck to everyone doing the feis in Ireland next weekend especially my little mate Leah. Good luck honey I'll be thinking of you -- Shelley and Jazzy, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 23:21:19 [1]

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What kind of floor is your favorite? What kind of studio do you like? Do you like studios with mirrors, windows, a waiting room,or what? Describe your dream studio. -- dreaming, Wed, Jan 03 2007, 1:07:48 [4]

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- luckily I have access to something close to a dream studio. Ours is a sprung floor (one of only four or five in the town I live in) and is large enough to hold our recital as well as give the kids enough room to dance....more -- Lee inDarwin, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 8:47:42
- Totally disagree about the mirrors, but understand where you are coming from more -- Aussie, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 1:40:19
  - thats pretty cool ... I like the studio that we have not having mirrors at this stage but do recognise that they are useful at some points in training...if you can cover the mirror for those that are easily distracted then it would be perfect..lol -- Lee in Darwin, Sun, Jan 07 2007, 2:43:02
RTE show Jigs & Reels - does anyone have video on line? -- Shoebutton, Sat, Jan 06 2007, 19:08:25 [1]

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is any one going to the bernadette feis i cnt wait -- wee_munster, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 15:12:08 [1]

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2 "newly" listed solo dresses listed on www.reelcutters.com -- Beth/ReelCutters, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 5:50:43 [1]
Dress #508 and #509 are newly listed. I finally added the measurements to #503(pink and black).

The prices were set by the owners' and are negotiable. Shipping is also included in the price.

2 have already been sold.

Thanks for looking!

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Anybody know where I can find some diamante shamrock shoe buckles -- that don't cost a fortune??, Thu, Jan 04 2007, 6:11:14 [2]

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- Camelia Rose sells shamrock diamante buckles aswel as many other designs. These are priced at £20 for the pair. (NT) -- www.cameliarose.co.uk, Fri, Jan 05 2007, 0:36:27
GOOD LUCK mate hope everyone enjoys this site -- shelley, Mon, Jan 01 2007, 15:49:48 [4]
Good luck hope to see lots of people using this site. HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone and let's all hope that everyone feels fairly judged in all competitions.

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- Thank you and a very happy New Year to you and all yours. Look forward to chatting in future (NT) -- Bridie, Mon, Jan 01 2007, 19:49:06
- whatever happened to the tv programme that wanted an irish dancing family for the swap (NT) -- shelley, Mon, Jan 01 2007, 21:46:31
  - Good question, never heard anymore about that, unless they found one and have gone into production, things tend to go quite once production starts (NT) -- Bridie, Mon, Jan 01 2007, 21:54:14
nice site, good luck! -- aisleen (:)), Sun, Dec 03 2006, 20:51:58 [1]
nice site, and any one going to the worlds even though its not till march good luck!

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