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Latest episode--for discussion's sake (inside) -- highplainswoman, 06:37:45 03/31/07 Sat [43]
Okay. I'll grant this was "Jimmy"-lite, but given the plot, that's okay.

I'm developing a real appreciation for the show, thanks to the intricate and thought-provoking plots they've gone for the last few episodes. For that sake, as well as DJE, it would be a real shame if the show were cancelled.

And yes, I know what the rumors say--but folks! Let's not panic too much here, okay?? Let's wait until something official comes out.

On the plot for this episode--it touched me in ways I hadn't expected. I felt personally wrung out at the end of it. I suppose it's because I've done some work with the 12-step program (not AA, but EA--"Emotions Anonymous") and I can personally testify that "working the program" to it's fullest potential--which most poeple don't, I might add--is by far the hardest "work" anyone can/will do in their lifetime(s). Reason: it's far easier to "fight" the external world rather than look at your own life, evaluate and make necessary "course corrections" to make your own life work better. I've known 20-year members of AA who are the wisest, most compassionate, and downright funniest people I've ever had the priviledge of meeting and/or working with. But it takes a heck of a lot of both work and courage to get to that point.

After a number of years working the program, I began to hear complaints about the program--from "outsiders" who really didn't know what they were talking about!! One big "complaint" seems to be the program doesn't encourage a person to "own" up to their mistakes. Nothing could be further from the truth, at least if you read beyond the first couple of steps. Step #4--take a moral inventory and share that with one other person you trust. In a lot of very significant ways, it resembles the Roman Catholic idea of "going to confession". If that doesn't encourage one to "own" up to one's mistakes in either behavior and/or judgments, then I don't know what it is. The purpose of both "exercises" is to gain some perspective on one's problems. Alcoholics--and people with emotional problems and/or addictions--can be--and often are--too hard on themselves, which then leads to low self-esteem, which then can express itself though negative behavior. On the other hand, there are some who cannot see where their own individual responsibility for the fix they find themselves in starts in any given situation. Doing a moral inventory and sharing with another person helps to begin to get a handle on that aspect of addiction, too.

In general, I was furious with Annabeth for not taking the perp's attempts at "making amends" seriously enough, at least at first. But after "sleeping" on it, I understand her "take" on it a lot better. On the whole, I thought the pros did a good job on taking a ticklist situation and telling a good story. All I know is that I was profounded emotionally affected by last night's episode.

Comments, thoughts, reactions, anyone???

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- Seems like the man only wanted to make amends up to a certain point, as long as it didn't cost him the things that he loved. Which in a way, maybe you can't blame him as it is only human nature. You are supposed to take a complete inventory and make amends-I don't think being forced into it by others really means you've met that objective. I think he tried to make amends, he just didn't make it all the way to the finish line without the legal system strongarming him into it. (NT) -- Margaret, 08:46:25 03/31/07 Sat
- Inside -- highplainswoman, 09:04:11 03/31/07 Sat
  - Sorry but to me this sounds like blaming the victim. Doesnt she have the right to be judgemental? After all she is the victim here. (Inside) -- Karen, 12:28:24 03/31/07 Sat
    - Uh oh, I'm actually going to be in the 'grey area' here. LOL. I think the ep gave us two examples of men who did a equally terrible thing(Lets also not forget the young man who kept his silence so that he could pledge with that fraternity) BUT there was a man who was absolutely remorseful over what he had done, realized the gravity and the wrongness of it, and you had an unrepentant scumbag, who helped to orchestrate the incident and its cover up, walking free. (NT) -- mkim It was a VERY thought provoking episode, BOTH men were wrong, but genuine remorse should mean something.., 13:07:02 03/31/07 Sat
- Question about Annabeth inside... -- usmgrad, 09:33:36 03/31/07 Sat
  - Yes he was, and I think that incident colors everything she does, and I dont know how it wouldnt, a loss that profound, and she is still grieving, no doubt. (NT) -- mkim, 13:02:01 03/31/07 Sat
- Anyone notice that Ed (Cress Williams) was not in the show and was not credited at the beginning along with the other four main characters. Anyone know the scoop on that? (NT) -- Jaggiegold, 11:45:50 03/31/07 Sat
  - This one seemed out of sequence, except for the scene at the Side Bar when Ray and Jimmy are talking, and I really was hoping when Jimmy asked about New York that we'd not only hear about what the cardiologist said, but that he ask Ray if he'd seen Jessie or the ex wife...I'm intrigued about her, cant help it. (NT) -- mkim I havent heard anything about Cress Williams leaving, I liked his character, I hope gone for good., 12:59:45 03/31/07 Sat
    - I hope he ISNT gone for good. Sorry Cress...where ever you are. (NT) -- mkim, 13:09:35 03/31/07 Sat
      - I really liked that scene between Ray and Jimmy last night too. It reminded me (inside) -- Gibs, 15:40:29 03/31/07 Sat
        
        I just had a thought. If they added a 23rd episode, and John and Cress had signed a contract to appear in so many episodes, maybe they were each written out of an epsiode so they could appear in the last one for the season. Does that make any sense or not? (NT) -- Lee, 22:49:50 04/01/07 Sun
  - When Jimmy and Ray were talking at the Side Bar didn't they mention Cress Williams character was on vaction somewhere? (NT) -- usmgrad, 18:58:55 03/31/07 Sat
    - Ray got a postcard from Ed in Maui, but I didn't know if he was just off for a week because they often leave the main characters in the credits if they miss a show, but they're coming back. I wondered if they were needing to make room for Jonathon Silverman for those 3 episodes. (NT) -- Jaggiegold, 19:54:07 03/31/07 Sat
- I think the episode was thought provoking, it was another one where I felt that when the verdict was read, that there was more to tell. They kept focusing on the husband of the rape victim during the trial, even after he confessed what he knew of the incident. There had to be more to it. I thought Mo's attitude was about right. She was more able to see the 'grey' areas. But also, when youre a prosecutor, how much of the grey do you focus on?? I liked the little sharp exchange between AB and Jimmy, he was acting like her boss, as he should be. I like this character, I really do. (NT) -- mkim, 12:56:08 03/31/07 Sat
- I don't know - I didn't like Annabeth very much last night. (inside) -- Gibson, 15:30:45 03/31/07 Sat
- This may sound a little harsh, but while I agree that justice got turned upside down and sideways to an extent in this case, I don't think it's the victim's job to let the man off the hook because he's remorseful. What if it was a murder he was remorseful for? What if he had turned his life around? Would the victim's family still be entitled to justice? -- manette, 20:34:40 03/31/07 Sat
  - Yeah... I think it's hard to tell... (inside) -- Gibs, 22:24:00 03/31/07 Sat
    - Hey Gib--I think the problem for the victim was..inside -- manette, 13:39:11 04/01/07 Sun
      - I'm just throwing this in and not responding to anyone in particular, so...Knowing several women who have been raped and some of the things they have dealt with their entire life...Its my opinion that the victims suffering would be greater than the rapist's remorse. Just my opinion though since I only have one side of the perspective. (NT) -- sj, 22:32:12 04/01/07 Sun
- The problem I had with this, is that we were supposed to feel sorry for the remorseful guy. Well I did not. (Inside.) -- Cece, no longer sad., 01:06:13 04/01/07 Sun
  - I'm not sure I felt sorry for him, ever. Is there a difference between feeling sorry and empathy? I think thats where I was. I think this guys alcholism probably started before college(there are alot of teenage alcholics unfortunately) I'm by no means making an excuse for him, youre right, he never expected to go to jail, but I think the 12 step program, becoming a father himself brought home to him what he'd done. and as bad as it was...that was a good thing. (NT) -- mkim, 12:38:19 04/01/07 Sun
  - I didn't feel sorry for him either, Cece.... -- The Chief, 12:19:45 04/04/07 Wed
- Wow! Lots of discussion about this ep! I think this is the most we've actually talked about an ep of CtH other than to drool over Jimmy! LOL! (NT) -- nancyeddy, 12:14:42 04/01/07 Sun
- Okay here's aonother question. I'm just playing devils advocate here for a minute. -- Karen, 16:51:31 04/01/07 Sun
  - That's a good question, but there were things that convicted him, not in a court of law, but in my mind. It was almost as though all three of the men who testified to the 'jerky guy's' involvement(I'm sorry, I cant remember his name) were still a little afraid of him, they all had trouble making eye contact and holding it. I still think there could be alot more to this. I know its not hard evidence, its just the reactions of the people around him and the accused self assurance that he would get off, he NEVER appeared afraid at all...why? (NT) -- mkim, 22:40:08 04/01/07 Sun
  - I think the jury did the right thing based on the evidence they were given. I couldn't have convicted him on that, and it seemed to be a shaky case from the start. INSIDE -- manette, 23:00:54 04/01/07 Sun
- By the way..... There was a whole 'nother angle that was in the original script (and the real life story) that was not included in the final cut.... -- The Chief, 12:28:36 04/04/07 Wed
Had a quick look at the CBS Close to Home site.... -- mkim, 12:19:50 04/02/07 Mon [1]

Looks like Mel Harris is going to guest star, and
this also looks like one that might have us talking for
awhile after the show.

It's titled 'Maternal Instinct'

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/close_to_home/

Check this out.

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Excellent discussion below....thoughtful analysis....nicely done y'all!!!! -- Annamae, 09:38:19 04/01/07 Sun [1]
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I'm Jimmy starved! Anybody else eager for a new episode tonight? We may not see a lot of him, but at least it'll be something! -- Lee, 19:13:10 03/30/07 Fri [3]
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- Me too, Lee. I really am looking forward to the episode tonight. BUT, just to be on the safe side, I'm preparing myself for 'Jimmy Lite' so if I get more it will be a treat. I cant wait to see the Attorney General story arc unfold, I think it should begin in the episode after this one(not sure). That should be a really interesting story, soooo looking forward to it...and Jimmy in the Gym, pumping iron and Jimmy in Jammies....sigh....so many goodies. (NT) -- mkim, 20:21:03 03/30/07 Fri
  - DANG!! Rumour had it that we were gonna get Jimmy in the gym tonight.....sigh. Geez, judi this is as bad as them telling us about a shower scene and then tellling us they were taking it out.....sigh, (NT) -- mkim We did get more Jimmy than I thought we would., 22:16:39 03/30/07 Fri
Help! Did anyone buy a TV Guide this week? -- mkim, 00:04:20 03/30/07 Fri [18]

I just got an e mail from Jaggiegold that said my letter to tv guide was published and I didnt get it this week!

I dont know if it was this week or last week, acckk!

Can anyone who subscribes take a look for me??

I'll have to check my sent mail...

What the heck did I say?...Wonder if it was when I was griping about Ausiello? (cringe)

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- I just sent you a message on the Entertainment Board, mkim. (NT) -- jenks, 06:05:09 03/30/07 Fri
- Hi mkim, I actually just saw it. If you like I can send you the magazine or the page. I read it and said "That's mkim!!!!" Congrats on getting our point out there. You merely stated that you couldn't understand why they would "cancel a show that consistently won its' time slot." (NT) -- Dani R, 08:21:01 03/30/07 Fri
  - hi danny- so what did they answer? (NT) -- chris k - waving, 11:20:37 03/30/07 Fri
    - Yes, what was TVG's answer (if there was one)? (NT) -- The Chief, 15:49:02 03/30/07 Fri
      - There wasnt...go figure. (NT) -- mkim not that I saw anyway., 17:09:01 03/30/07 Fri
        
        I find it interesting that they edited out the demographics part, but kept the ratings part. They have no idea how closely connected those two things are... (NT) -- The Chief, 20:52:20 03/30/07 Fri
- mkim, I have the TV Guide, if you want it let me know, or I can scan it for you. Send me an e-mail and lemme know what you want to do. (NT) -- Angela -- Mommy of 2 JAGLettes, 08:35:10 03/30/07 Fri
- I never buy the thing but now that I know you got in it, I'm going to run out and buy it. Congratulations for getting in. (NT) -- Margaret, 08:43:56 03/30/07 Fri
  - It's the March26-April1 issue - next weeks is already out. (NT) -- ED, 09:10:07 03/30/07 Fri
    - Well, if I'm late can someone scan and post it here? (NT) -- Margaret, 10:55:19 03/30/07 Fri
- THE EDITED IT...ALOT. Inside for the whole letter: -- mkim, 11:59:40 03/30/07 Fri
  - Kim, well said! The so-called preferred age group is often struggling to survive, or to pay off school loans, deal with car loans and their first homes or apartments, maybe also child(ren) - they are far from the top in earning power or dollars! I have an 18 yr old, and had to laugh when you said "They're spending OUR money" - how true! (NT) -- Janlaw, 12:07:48 03/30/07 Fri
  - Well said mkim! So what part did they actually print? (NT) -- Gibson, 21:36:45 03/30/07 Fri
    - About 1 sentence(LOL)....a question reallly. I know that Close to Home is 'on the bubble'(Breaking News, 3/12), but why would CBS drop a show that ils winning its time slot? (NT) -- mkim They never did answer...maybe I should 'Ask Matt??', 22:10:29 03/30/07 Fri
      - LOL- of course they didn't answer - there isn't one! I'm guessing this is all just politics that none of us will ever understand. Good for you for making your voice heard though! (NT) -- Gibs, 22:14:14 03/30/07 Fri
- Kudos to you, mkim, for saying what we all were/are thinking. On pins and needles until this thing is resolved! (NT) -- judy52sa, 12:34:05 03/30/07 Fri
- I FOUND ONE! Thanks to you all who offered to send me one. (NT) -- mkim, 16:48:54 03/30/07 Fri
Little Hope for CTH Renewal -- Ginny, 10:35:14 03/27/07 Tue [10]
In the Magazine section of our local newspaper, it lists CTH as one of the shows with very little chance of renewal. The article also says emailing and writing CBS will have very little, if any, effect on the decision. Well, let's just see about that.

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- Is there a website where the article can be found online? (NT) -- GS1, 12:20:22 03/27/07 Tue
- Don't suppose they listed their source of information. Do they have an email address? (NT) -- Margaret, 12:49:05 03/27/07 Tue
  - Article about CTH chances of renewal -- Ginny, 16:17:45 03/27/07 Tue
- Here's the link. http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20070327_Jonathan_Storm___Save_my_show_.html (NT) -- GS1, 17:28:12 03/27/07 Tue
- Hmmm... seems like several "mediocre" shows have something called "inside support". That sounds like "office politics" to me. (NT) -- The Chief, 17:40:20 03/27/07 Tue
- Did anyone else notice this: (inside) -- nancyeddy, 23:30:12 03/27/07 Tue
  - Good catch, nancy (NT) -- The Chief, 10:29:10 03/28/07 Wed
  - No, but I noticed this... (inside) -- Gibson, 21:44:40 03/29/07 Thu
    - LOLOL (NT) -- the chief, 13:31:01 03/30/07 Fri
CTH Fri. Ep. -- Jagcharmed2, 22:14:57 03/29/07 Thu [2]
I will b watching this ep & also taping w/dvr. I read somewhere on 1 of these bds., that when u tape a show thats how they can tell the ratings or numbers. Is that true? I've been taping every ep of Close To Home this season.

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- If you watch a show or record a show and watch it from a cable company DVR or a Tivo, most of the time it's reported to Nielsen. It's one of the reasons Studio 60 lasted as long as it did. It had good 48 hour DVR viewing reports. People weren't watching it live, but a lot of DVR users were watching it within the next two days. (NT) -- CaliGirl, 10:22:38 03/30/07 Fri
Poll to vote for saving Close to Home -- GS1, 14:39:43 03/23/07 Fri [23]
http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/blog/index.jsp?uuid=52af6b98-eb72-45a0-b27b-7798e6bf906f

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- Just voted. Apparently only one vote per person or computer? Vote y'all!! (NT) -- judy52sa, 21:33:11 03/23/07 Fri
- I just submitted mine! (NT) -- mkim, 22:30:27 03/23/07 Fri
- Voted; here's hoping.... (NT) -- Janlaw, 23:09:16 03/23/07 Fri
- I cast my vote! (NT) -- Lee, 00:03:56 03/24/07 Sat
- Voted, too. (NT) -- Gunshy, 01:13:52 03/24/07 Sat
- I voted too! (NT) -- Sherry, 06:54:20 03/24/07 Sat
- Looks like it will only let you vote once a day. I tried twice last night with no luck. What I did do was vote at work and came home and voted soooo if you have access to more than one computer, go for it. It will let you vote the next day so until their deadline I'd say let's go for it. P. S. Just because the so-called insiders are ringing the death toll on our show doesn't mean we should stop with the letters and calls. I think we should try to step it up a notch. At least we can say we really tried. (NT) -- Margaret, 08:42:05 03/24/07 Sat
- I voted and will vote each day tile April 6 (NT) -- JDP, 09:52:37 03/24/07 Sat
- I just voted as well. (NT) -- Jagcharmed2, 11:19:29 03/24/07 Sat
- I WENT GROCERY SHOPPING THIS MORNING, VOTED BEFORE I WENT, CAME BACK AND VOTED. So it must be a matter of hours before they let you vote again. Maybe 2 or 3. (NT) -- Margaret, 12:07:42 03/24/07 Sat
- It worked. I'll try again in a few hours. Thanks. (NT) -- Gunshy, 12:53:57 03/24/07 Sat
- Yes, definitely appears that it accepts one vote per day from each ISP. (NT) -- judy52sa, 12:04:35 03/25/07 Sun
  - Judy: Its let me vote about three times today, but its been several hours apart. (NT) -- Margaret, 18:40:10 03/25/07 Sun
  - Thanks, Margaret...have finally figured it out...I have voted more than once daily. (NT) -- judy52sa, 22:55:45 03/25/07 Sun
- vote for Close To home -- Linda R, 20:59:16 03/26/07 Mon
- Now it won't let me vote again. I keep getting the 'thankyou for voting' page. Ack! (NT) -- nancyeddy, 10:58:41 03/27/07 Tue
  - You might be able to log out, log back in and try again. (NT) -- Margaret, 16:43:17 03/27/07 Tue
    - Nancy: Since my computer at work is programmed to log out every 15 minutes or so (homeland security precautions) I have to log back in after that time has elapsed. I noticed after I logged back in it would let me vote, most of the time. (NT) -- Margaret, 08:22:29 03/28/07 Wed
- Checked the website and Kristan says there are two shows neck in neck, lets hope one of them is ours. We need to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. (NT) -- Margaret, 06:28:11 03/29/07 Thu
  - Just checked website---she lists the top 5 shows...top 2 so far are Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill..neck and neck...the next three are also close for second...(they include Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Supernatural, and Veronica Mars. No mention of CTH....No surprises. Vote everyone, as often as you can. Voting til April 6. (NT) -- judy52sa, 00:31:46 03/30/07 Fri
    - I'm able to vote continuously...as long as I want to take the time to open and close out Internet Explorer after every vote. Just open browser, vote, then close browser. Reopen, and you can vote. (NT) -- judy52sa, 00:33:42 03/30/07 Fri
- I just voted again (NT) -- Jagcharmed2, 22:26:32 03/29/07 Thu
Here's a new spoiler from spoilerfix. -- Lee, 23:22:12 03/25/07 Sun [9]
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- Inside -- Lee, 23:23:21 03/25/07 Sun
  - That's a really unusual name for an ep... (NT) -- The Chief, 00:32:40 03/26/07 Mon
  - ooh- i like the interaction between anabeth and hellman - he should have been a regular - there's an interesting chemistry there. (NT) -- chris k, 09:53:54 03/26/07 Mon
- This looks really interesting, Lee. I think this is part of a three story arc, that will wrap up the season, but I wouldnt swear to it. Some of the 'sides' I've read indicate that we get Jimmy in Jammies. What do you say to a Jimmy in Jammies contest.....Shirtless Jimmy was so much fun! (NT) -- mkim, 12:59:51 03/26/07 Mon
  - Just the bottoms...I hope. (NT) -- jenks, 17:53:31 03/26/07 Mon
  - Silk bottoms...I'll be wearing the top! (NT) -- Lee, 19:08:16 03/26/07 Mon
  - Jimmy in J A M M I E S!!! Jimmy in J A M M I E S!!! Jimmy in J A M M I E S!!! (NT) -- Jammie lovin' spud, 19:46:20 03/26/07 Mon
  - I say Jimmy sleeps in boxer briefs....black sounds good to me. Not alot of guys look good in them but I think Jimmy would....those arent jammies though are they??? I just cant see him as someone who would wear buttoned up pajamas top and bottom. (Like when he was on Medium, reading the paper in those light blue jammies(LOL) (NT) -- mkim, 20:25:02 03/26/07 Mon
Don't know if this will help the CTH campaign but CBS is now putting out a magagine called: "Watch". This first issue has Jennifer Love Hewitt on the cover and a small blurp about DJE and Jennifer Finnigan. Article is about TV lawyers. Their website is: www.cbs.com/watch_magazine, says mail your letters to the editor to watch@cbs.com. Mail editoria comments, questions or manuscripts to Watch! magazine c/o CBS Television, 51 W. 52 Street, Office 400/4th Floor, New York, NY 10019. Ready, set, write letters. -- Margaret, 11:48:12 03/24/07 Sat [2]
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- Should have said the blurp on the two is inside. Sorry (NT) -- Margaret, 11:49:04 03/24/07 Sat
FYI -- Cece, 14:48:24 03/22/07 Thu [6]
Apparently, there is a "Cece" posting at the CBS web site about CtH. I haven't posted there, so I'm not responsible for anything that other Cece has to say. Just letting you know.

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- If it makes you feel any better, Cece, I knew right away that person wasn't you. They didn't sound one bit Brit! LOL (NT) -- The Chief (I can hear Cece's accent in every word she types! LOL), 17:48:25 03/22/07 Thu
  - Me too, isnt that strange??? You certainly made an impression, Cece. (NT) -- mkim, 18:53:27 03/22/07 Thu
- I can't find a message board at cbs.com. Where is it? (NT) -- nancyeddy, 00:49:55 03/23/07 Fri
  - I think she might be talking about the site you listed below at ew.com. (NT) -- mkim, 01:00:40 03/23/07 Fri
    - Sorry Nancy, it wasn't CBS. Judi told me about the name, and I assumed it was CBS. (NT) -- Cece (wondering if I sound "Veddy Ladeedah.", 03:04:51 03/23/07 Fri
I visited Entertainment Weekly's website... -- mkim, 02:09:39 03/20/07 Tue [18]

At the suggestion of nancyeddy, I checked out an article on the 'Bubble' shows and the article also gives you an opportunity to comment on why you think your fav show should continue for another year.

Of course, I already posted, but it might be a good idea to post a line or two, to let them know how were feeling about the possible cancellation of one of our favorite shows.

Here's the website.

http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/03/bubble_shows_30.html

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- Mine's in. (NT) -- jenks, 07:06:16 03/20/07 Tue
- So's mine. Thanks. (NT) -- Dani R, 07:59:43 03/20/07 Tue
- Hey mkim - looks like we've ruffled some feathers over on that blog already - they've started JAE (and JAE fan) bashing. Sheesh - some people! (NT) -- Gibson, 11:00:00 03/20/07 Tue
- Put mine in (twice), due to technical difficulties. (NT) -- Margaret, 14:35:01 03/20/07 Tue
- Cindy: Just for chuckles, please tell me how many members you have and approximately how many countries. I remember when a lot of us posted on TeeVee and there were quite a few people from the US to Canada, Germany, Ireland, ........... (NT) -- Margaret, 14:37:38 03/20/07 Tue
  - Since these "ladies" seem to think we're a small group. Just curious. (NT) -- Margaret, 14:38:22 03/20/07 Tue
    - Has anyone counted the number of people who wrote thank you notes to DJE for his 10 years on JAG that's still posted on the board? That would give you an idea of how many people supported DJE from this board at that time. (NT) -- Lee, 00:36:24 03/21/07 Wed
      - That was pretty awesome Lee, men, women and children from all over the world. (NT) -- mkim, 13:46:03 03/21/07 Wed
      - 523 posts to the Thank You board so far... (NT) -- The Chief, 18:52:55 03/21/07 Wed
        
        Wow! How long did it take you to count all those? (NT) -- Lee, 23:44:10 03/21/07 Wed
        
        Lee, if you put your cursor on "reply to this message" on the Voy boards, you can look down at the bottom of the page and see how many posts have been made. Usually, that is every poster, but on the Thank you board, there is only one poster to the thread. That's how Chief knew the number. (NT) -- Cece, 14:50:35 03/22/07 Thu
        
        Well, I guess you could do it that way, too, Cece. I actually counted them all by hand, clicking and scrolling, clicking and scrolling.... *sigh* I'd do anything for my HarmyBroads, donchaknow. (NT) -- Miz Chief (Just kidding!), 15:21:09 03/22/07 Thu
- I just got on and read some of these posts...glad I missed most of the craziness. I just wanted let fans of this show know they had a forum to let tptb at CBS know there were alot of people watching. Thanks to everyone who took the time to post. (NT) -- mkim, 14:54:32 03/20/07 Tue
- I just put mine in (posting as "VirginiaVamp"). Some of them are not very friendly towards DJE fans.... (NT) -- The Chief, 16:09:14 03/20/07 Tue
- I wrote in using my initials, LAM. (NT) -- Lee, 00:31:25 03/21/07 Wed
- how many people -- Barbara, 17:42:12 03/22/07 Thu
  - Welcome Barbara, I hope the next few episodes will give you even more to follow up on. It really been fun to watch this show evolve. (NT) -- mkim, 01:16:27 03/23/07 Fri
I received 2 responses to letters I wrote regarding the possible cancellation of "CTH". One is from Jerry Bruckheimer and the other from Eric Overmyer. Go to Cindy's board at www.fordjefans,com to read them and everyones comments about them. It does pay to send snail mail. -- Bernadette, 23:04:33 03/18/07 Sun [3]
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- Thanks for being so determined with this. I'm getting letters in the mail today to Les Moonves and Nancy Telem. I'll write CBS Entertainment and the others tomorrow. Thanks for getting the ball rolling. (NT) -- Margaret, 10:09:22 03/19/07 Mon
- That's excellent news AND excellent motivation! Good Job, Bernadette! And so nice of those guys to write you back. (NT) -- The Chief, 16:25:27 03/19/07 Mon
What does "Close to Home" need in order to be renewed??? -- The Chief (kind of springing off the posts below), 13:46:16 03/13/07 Tue [28]

We may not have any direct influence on the decision makers via this message board, BUT, it might be fun to toss around some ideas of things we'd like to see on CtH that would keep US watching, anyway....

And of course #1 would be **SHIRTLESS JIMMY**.

But what else?

I was thinking that a good dose of comic relief might help. Not slapstick or outrageousness, but the gentle, human quirkiness of a character like Bud or Tiner. (Yeah, I know, once a JAG fan, always a JAG fan...) Personally, I think CtH, as a show, takes itself too seriously. It tries to be a "hard crime" show in an "Oprah's couch" setting. It's a good show, tho - good enough to win it's night as the ratings attest. Bruckheimer is certainly on to something with the women as the main characters investigating nasty crimes that happen to "family-like" people, but there needs to be a little something to take the edge off.

So my suggestion would be to introduce the position of Administrative Assisstant to the Assisstant District Attorney (the AA to the ADA). Let's see Conlon "audition" a new secretary each week, with each character having some odd quirk or conflict that Jimmy just can't deal with (or they can't deal with him). (Similar to how Murphy Brown had a new secretary each week.) Then maybe at the end of a season full of miscues, they hire someone who can handle the job, but can also set up Conlon for a few comic one-liners here and there.

What do you all think and what are your suggestions??

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- I think some comic relief would be a great idea!. It would certainly make it stand out from all the other "crime" shows on television. (NT) -- Lee, 14:11:34 03/13/07 Tue
- Most of what you say is correct, Chief. More humor would be good, but I'd forget the secretary thing, that would be too "off the wall" for the show. Humor like we saw on JAG would be just right. Even during the most serious episodes we would see subtle humor amongst the characters. -- Carolfd, 14:57:06 03/13/07 Tue
  - OOPS! Forgot to say 'Inside'. (NT) -- Carolfd, 14:59:08 03/13/07 Tue
- I think more of what we saw last friday would be a sure fire way to get them off of the bubble. I thought last weeks episode was riveting and if the writersgive us that and more Jimmy time( it looks like they are )I think theyve got a good shot. (NT) -- mkim, 18:14:20 03/13/07 Tue
- some of TV's higher rated shows have that- Criminal minds has the blonde computer whiz. NCIS (though I don't watch it) has the tatooed forensics lady. I remember In the West Wing the president's secretary was a little quirky, in the end he had lilly tomlin with a near photographic memory. (NT) -- chris k -, 20:34:17 03/13/07 Tue
- A JAG/C2H combo episode or arc of eps! DJE would play both Jimmy and Harm. Patty Duke did it yrs ago on "The P.D. Show"; so did Hayley Mills in "The Parent Trap." Since it's so unlikely as to be laughable, highplainswoman and I are writing you one! Stay tuned to the HBX etc. (NT) -- Janlaw, 23:16:02 03/13/07 Tue
- I don't know, I like the show but it's so slow on developing characters, here we have gone through a good part of the season and we still don't know much about either of the new characters and very little about the old ones. But I think you are right, as frustrated as I got with DB he had a great way of meshing humor with serious situations. And if Jennifer is bringing in her real boyfriend can Nancy be too far behind whitch actually might not be a bad thing, everyone gets along too well. (NT) -- JBgirlygirl, 10:22:12 03/14/07 Wed
  - I, for one, would NOT like to see NC on the program. I would rather DJE do things on his own merits. If I remember correctly, people discussed this at one time and felt they would not like to have her starring with him. IMVHO (NT) -- jenks, 11:06:56 03/14/07 Wed
- I agree - it definitely needs something to make it different and a little humour would go a long way. I don't particularly agree with the 'comic relief' character, but just lightening up like they seem to be doing is good. Personally I like the 'out in left field' type humour (ie. House), but it might be a little sudden and out of character for this show presently. Right now it seems too 'cookie cutter' for my taste. If they could find a way to make it less choppy that would be good too. (NT) -- Gibson, 11:37:02 03/14/07 Wed
  - I thought some of the exchanges between Ed and Ray have been good and funny at times. I got a kick out of the red shoes, conversation> I cant remember the name of the episode. They could definitely expand on those two. I hope they keep Ray, I like him, I hope his heart problem doesnt mean he's outta there. (NT) -- mkim, 16:33:28 03/14/07 Wed
    - I agree mkim - I have noticed that they are trying to lighten things up - there hasn't been nearly as much 'furrowing' going on lately! ;o) (NT) -- Gibson, 18:56:30 03/14/07 Wed
      - I know Gibs, aint it cool????? LOL! (NT) -- mkim, 20:38:30 03/14/07 Wed
- And another thought...... ADD SOME COLOR!!!!! This last episode, while a wonderful vehicle for DJE's acting skills, certainly didn't do the same for his golden complexion and his green-blue eyes!! Even AJ's office, with it's only two windows, dark panelling, heavy wood and leather furniture and a few lamps was brighter and more colorful than Conlon's all-glass and steel digs. (Okay, I'll stop the JAG comparisons... *sigh*) Even the CSI franchises aren't as "colorless" as CtH tends to be. (NT) -- The Chief, 09:44:11 03/15/07 Thu
- I think they need to show Jimmy in various states of undress but it doesn't need to be gratuitous. However, isn't he supposed to bench press in an upcoming ep? perfect to show off that perfect, sexy body. How about the phone ringing and him stepping out of the shower or he's running in just a pair of shorts and someone sends cruiser to pick him up and take him to a scene. The cruiser has a very attractive female police officer in it. The jeans last week were a good touch too, but how about a tight t-shirt to go along with it. (NT) -- panting judi just thinking about it, 14:25:39 03/15/07 Thu
  - Just that open collar when he took his tie off, totally knocked me out. That just goes to show you..I'm Jimmy deprived! (or is that depraved?) (NT) -- mkim, 17:08:27 03/15/07 Thu
    - Isn't there a line in a song from West Side Story (Officer Krupke) about "...hey, I'm depraved on account I'm deprived"? That would cover all the bases...including the ones we'd really rather have UNcovered! (NT) -- Deemus, 17:30:36 03/15/07 Thu
      - Yes, Deemus, you're right! Our local high school just did WSS a few weeks ago and it was amazing! (NT) -- The Chief ('course, it's also one of the top hs drama programs on the east coast - lots of famous alumni, including Chuck "Tiner" Carrington), 18:08:36 03/15/07 Thu
      - Here ya go... (inside) -- The Chief, 18:11:28 03/15/07 Thu
      - LOL! That's me!!!! (NT) -- mkim, 18:33:02 03/15/07 Thu
    - LOL - you crack me up mkim! But I don't know - I think his suits need to be tailored a bit more - they're supposed to be expensive, but don't they come across looking a little 'boxy'? Or is it just me? lol (NT) -- Gibson, 21:05:28 03/15/07 Thu
      - Isn't that the style lately? Boxier suits? (Boxer suits? LOL Now THERE's a thought! LOL) (NT) -- The Chief, 14:47:30 03/16/07 Fri
        
        Is it really? Wow, if it is, I don't like it. I like your 'Boxer suits' idea better! Or how about 'Boxer brief suits'? Better yet, maybe he should just where a wrestling singlet - Borat style... ;0) (NT) -- Gibson, 16:20:14 03/16/07 Fri
        
        ACK! Nooooo!!! Really Gibs, didja have ta? LOL (NT) -- The Chief, 21:45:00 03/18/07 Sun
- Yeah, they could use the office "clown." I don't mean literally, a silly person. But perhaps a witty sidekick. Maureen has always been serious, and AB is still grieving. But Jimmy himself, still has a bit of an edge to him, a bit of irreverence that I'd like to see more of. Everyone shouldn't be serious all the time. Hmmm....let's see...maybe they should do a Home-a-thon, like JAGathon. Anything to get Jimmy in his torn tank and shorts. That would put a smile on my face. But then I'm shallow. (NT) -- Cece, 14:27:47 03/17/07 Sat
  - I still say that Jimmy should run in the Indianapolis 500's Mini 5 marathon. It's a half marathon, kinda small potatoes for a triathlete, but we'd defintely get him in those fine running clothes JAE is so often photographed in. May be I should write the shows creators(lol) Women everywhere would thank them! (NT) -- mkim, 19:47:09 03/17/07 Sat
    - I think you should write FOR the show mkim - then women everywhere would thank you! ;0) (NT) -- Gibson, 08:58:22 03/18/07 Sun
  - Ah yes Cece but you aren't the only one thats shallow. Isn't that why most of us of here? lol (NT) -- Margaret, 08:32:59 03/18/07 Sun
Next new episode of C2H--does anybody know exactly what date the next new episode will be shown??? -- highplainswoman, 12:42:00 03/18/07 Sun [11]
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- TitanTV is showing the next new ep on 30 March, the ep "Making Amends" Inside for more -- nancyeddy (), 13:15:15 03/18/07 Sun
  - Oops. Can someone remove these two messages? (NT) -- nancyeddy (), 13:16:01 03/18/07 Sun
  - please ignore. Messed up. (NT) -- nancyeddy, 13:17:52 03/18/07 Sun
  - I believe there is a case recently, where a man confessed to raping a girl when they were in college. He contacted her after 20 years and confessed as part of his 12 step program for alcoholism. I don't konw which state, but it is one where the statute of limitations does not run for rape. (NT) -- Lori Lynn, 13:23:31 03/18/07 Sun
    - The case was tried in Virginia; inside for a link to the story -- SeaBeth, 14:15:11 03/18/07 Sun
      - It happened at UVa (Charlottesville). Last week the guy was sentenced to 18 months instead of life because he wasn't the only one involved. (NT) -- The Chief, 21:17:16 03/18/07 Sun
- There is more information on this episode at SpoilerFix.com, if you are interested. The link is right above this thread (below the collage). They also show it airing on March 30. (NT) -- SeaBeth, 14:07:45 03/18/07 Sun
- The 2 spoilerfix.com spoilers (for eps 18 and 19) don't mention the 3 ep arc with Jimmy running for AG - perhaps those will finish the season - eps 20-21-22 - since spoilerfix.com indicates there're going to be 22 episodes this season. (NT) -- Janlaw, 16:46:26 03/18/07 Sun
  - Sounds like that might be what they're going to do. I just hope that they don't leave us with a cliffhanger that's never resolved if "Close to Home" should happen to be cancelled. (NT) -- Lee, 19:52:20 03/18/07 Sun
PLAYING HOUSE IN HOME (an article in new TV Guide under Ausiello Report) -- ED, 17:39:32 03/13/07 Tue [8]
For those who do not read TV Guide the article says:
"Jennifer Finnigan's real-life beau, Jonathan Silverman, has booked a three episode arc on her single-mother Matlock series, Close to Home. He'll play a political operative who gets hired by Conlon (David James Elliott) for his attorney general campaign. And because I know you'll ask, romantic sparks will not fly on screen between Finnigan and Silverman - and that was at the couple's own request. I guess that would've hit, um, too close to home." If we are to believe this article, sounds like JC is actively pursuing the AG's office if this is going to be part of 3 of the last 5 episodes. Hope this is a good thing.

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- This is interesting. Wonder if they aren't preparing for a spin-off. Hmm! But nah, politicians NEVER look like him. They're always so smarmy looking. LOL (NT) -- judi who volunteers to stuff Jimmy's ballot, 14:27:22 03/15/07 Thu
  - I'll volunteer to help stuff those ballots, judi. (NT) -- Lee, 11:27:58 03/16/07 Fri
  - So are you saying that Jimmy wears "Ballot Boxers"?? (NT) -- Curious Chief, 14:49:00 03/16/07 Fri
    - (gives a whole new meaning to "Boxing Day", too....) (NT) -- mizchief, 14:49:19 03/16/07 Fri
      - ROTFLMAO, Chief, PIMP!!!! That is hilarious. (NT) -- judi, 14:24:24 03/17/07 Sat
      - ROTFLMAO, Chief, PIMP!!!! That is hilarious. (NT) -- judi, 14:56:59 03/17/07 Sat
        
        Well, I'm glad you liked it, and, uh... here's a towel.... (NT) -- The Chief (sheesh you can dress her up but you can't take her anywhere), 21:05:55 03/18/07 Sun
Question about "Protege" -- The Chief, 14:52:40 03/16/07 Fri [3]

This isn't directly realted to Jimmy, but, wasn't that the actress who played "Verese" (Sturgis' girlfriend) on the stand as one of the witnesses (a psychologist, I think) during the sentencing phase?

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- Yes, that was her. (NT) -- Lee, 15:13:44 03/16/07 Fri
  - I thought so, thanks, Lee! One of these days, all the JAG actors will appear as guest stars on the same episode somewhere, and it'll be really weird! LOL (NT) -- The Chief, 16:36:14 03/16/07 Fri
Close to Home on bubble for renewal. -- GS1, 01:42:57 03/13/07 Tue [6]
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117960879.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

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- Could someone post this on the Entertainment board. There's a lot of good information in here about other shows as well. For example, I'm thrilled that Stand Off is coming back. (NT) -- Theresa, 04:28:42 03/13/07 Tue
- OK, I guess my question is how can it win the Friday night viewing and still be on the "bubble" and if there is an identity problem I blame the producers that seems to be producing everything lately for the identity problem. The show needs to movei it along. IMO (NT) -- JBgirlygirl, 12:44:58 03/13/07 Tue
  - It's all in the production costs and the advertising dollars. If they assumed it would be a bigger hit than it is they may have offered the cast higher salaries than they could afford going out of the gate, or the other production costs may have been estimated too low. The show has to make a certain amount of money or it's not going to stick around. Even if it wins the race every Friday. The TV industry is making Friday a dead night, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. They're painting themselves into a corner with the stupid demographics non-sense. (NT) -- Theresa, 13:33:28 03/13/07 Tue
- Also if a show doesn't deliver the projected numbers, including the "magic demo," the network may be required to pay money back to the advertisers. That means that more of the production costs get paid by the production company or the network - and less by the advertisers. At the very least, it lowers profits for the show. inside... -- Ann, 18:50:12 03/14/07 Wed
- Reading the Variety article, I get the sense that CtH needs to do something "special" to make it get more attention. More DJE time could be just what it needs. (NT) -- Ann, 18:53:15 03/14/07 Wed
Calling all DJE fans. There's an easy way to support DJE and that's by voting for him as "Hunk of the Month." If you're at all interested, check it out. I'll but the link inside. -- Lee, 00:13:50 03/13/07 Tue [2]
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- Here's the link. -- Lee, 00:16:59 03/13/07 Tue
James Conlon, Atty General? -- judi, 21:10:56 03/10/07 Sat [9]
Like the rest of you, I LOVED last nights ep and will write to CBS telling them. The ratings would have been better had they bothered to promote it and showed more JC, IMO.

Ann mentioned below the possibility of a spin-off where DJE plays the Attorney General of Indiana. Would that make for a good show? What kind of storylines could the AG have? Would something like this work or just be another L&O type of show?

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- It wouldn't be like Law & Order; states' attorneys-general usually run offices that investigate major crime issues like fraud, organized crime, etc. TWW proved it was possible to spend an entire season on an election, so there could be a first season of JC being the DA who is running for office before he ever gets elected. Then he could investigate various companies that are headquartered in IN for various things. (NT) -- Ann, 22:13:30 03/10/07 Sat
  - Forgot to say - unless they came up with some good cases, it might be difficult to come up with a lot of possible consumer fraud, political crimes, etc. for him to investigate. (NT) -- Ann, 22:15:55 03/10/07 Sat
- It might be interesting to see how running for office would effect his decision making. (NT) -- mkim, 00:24:15 03/11/07 Sun
- Not to mention going after local DAs who "stray" (inside) -- highplainswoman, 06:43:21 03/11/07 Sun
- Were there basketball games shown in some parts of the country that would have replaced the showing of CtH at its regular time? I agree with the need for promos on TV as well as in print. (NT) -- ED, 17:30:20 03/11/07 Sun
- I envision a newly-elected Jimmy Conlon arriving at his office and jumping in with both feet to get to work, brushing aside concerns in the back of his mind that he didn’t bite off more than he could chew with this new job. I can see him wanting to use his “New York” style of doing things, while at the same time convincing his staff that they can trust that this “carpetbagger” knows what he is doing. I can see him fighting to keep his own integrity and that of his office, while still having to play in the political arena, because that is, after all, how he got this job. Inside for more… -- SeaBeth, 04:14:28 03/12/07 Mon
  - Sounds like a great concept, SeaBeth. I'd watch. (NT) -- Lee, 19:15:40 03/12/07 Mon
    - Thanks. I had fun thinking about it (NT) -- SeaBeth, 23:00:14 03/12/07 Mon
Promos during Close to Home -- Jagcharmed2, 20:42:31 03/11/07 Sun [4]
I tried to keep track of all the promos 4 other shows as I watched CTH, they seemed to air the amazing race-cold case- advetures of christine-numbers-w/o a trace quite a bit during the hour & when that was done & they went back to the show (CTH), they posted the above mentioned shows at the bottom of the screen to boot. U know what I say IMHO "WHO CARES ABOUT THOSE OTHER SHOWS"! I'm not in the preferred age group that they sought after, so therefore I don't need them or watch them!!! Amen. Sorry, just had to rant & rave.

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- CBS did the same thing with JAG. Promoted other shows but not it. There must be something about that time spot on Friday that they just will not promote the show. (NT) -- Jeanaz8, 22:49:42 03/11/07 Sun
- BUT, do you watch the OTHER CBS shows to see if CTH is promo-ed on THOSE shows? They're not going to promo CtH while you're *watching* it! LOL I don't watch much tv myself, so I can't say if they promo CtH during "Amazing Race" or whatever. Maybe someone else can verify that. Regardless, I agree that it would be nice for DJE to be in a show that was promo-ed "all over the place" like some others. (NT) -- The Chief, 11:02:20 03/12/07 Mon
  - I agree Chief. Also, this made me wonder why they are griping about Close to Home not bringing in enough advertising dollars. Well maybe it would if they wouldn't take the advertising time promoting their own shows. I'm sure regardless of demographics that they could have gotten some product advertising in those commercial slots. (NT) -- Theresa, 17:21:40 03/12/07 Mon
Close to Home Ratings for last night. -- GS1, 15:14:13 03/10/07 Sat [2]
http://www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ratings030907,0,1794698.story?coll=zap-tv-ratings-headlines

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- Even though LV was a season finale, CtH still held the lead! Yipee!! TPTB have to notice that its in the lead every week and should be renewed and promoted so that many more people become aware of it as new and improved from last year. (NT) -- ED, 17:38:17 03/11/07 Sun

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