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Subject: Typical Niners Fans...Overestimated Team, QB, etc.


Author:
TANK
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Date Posted: 15:31:46 01/13/03 Mon
I know, I know...Mariucci blew it with 40 seconds to go in the half. What was the fool thinking? Why did he run out the clock? I mean, Garcia was on fire (he is the man in the "no huddle" offense) and everything was going so well (sarcasm). Hey, with 32 "long" seconds and 60 "short" yards against the #1 defense...and with the offense clicking, why did Mooch call it quits and try to regroup?

Gee, you don't think it had anything to do with the INT Garcia threw at the 26 yard line a minute earlier, do you? That 'no huddle" was so successful...it resulted in seven points for Tampa! You don't think it had anything with Garcia being sick and playing awful? Or, the offensive line getting humiliated by Sapp and Co., who were teeing off in an obvious passing situation? What harm would have come if Garcia dropped back to pass and Simeon rice had come by to swat the ball out of his hands? Just a field goal.

Lets face it Niners fans, you are dillusional. All I read about is how great Garcia is, how many Pro Bowl offensive linemen we have (or should have), how solid our defense is (with Winborn), and that Plummer is a shutdown CB, etc., but the schemes suck 'cause the coaches are idiots.

Check out this typical forum masterpiece posted yesterday:

"The 49ers are as talented defensively as Philadelphia and Tampa Bay, arguably the top two defenses in the league."

So, what does this fan say to back up this deft analysis?

"Although the pass rush is horrible and non-existent..."

ME: This is the very next sentence after saying the 49ers have as much talent a Philly and the Bucs. How can I stop from laughing?

"The linebackers are athletic and fast yet they miss too many tackles..."

ME: See a pattern developing here? Is this evidence of talent?

"Julian Peterson is becoming a star and Derek Smith...(blah, blah, blah)...However, the weakest link is Jeff Ulbrich. At best, a decent reserve on most teams, he somehow amazes me with the playing time and four year contract extension he received. He takes himself out of the play, gets overpowered in the running game, and simply cannot cover anyone."

ME: Heads up! Neither Derek Smith, nor Ulbrich would start for Philadelphia or Tampa Bay!

"The secondary, although getting torched this season, is the strongest part of the team."

ME: Yes, he wrote this, not me...

"Ahmed Plummer is a solid cornerback...Jason Webster, although small, is solid cover corner although he does get overpowered by bigger wide receivers."

ME: Typical fan logic: "My team is good enough to beat anybody...my players are better than everyone elses...all my team needs is pass rush AND a stud cornerback like Aeneas Williams AND Winborn to be healthy AND..."

Predictably, the same people who think Mariucci and his coaches are holding back the team, are now addressing other offseason needs, like the need for a #2WR, another tight end, and a more dominant offensive line, like these missing pieces haven't impacted the coaching.

Do any of you forum regulars manage a business, store, unit? If you have a number of employees who report to you, and some of these people falter, would firing you solve the problems for your company? Hell, do any of you report to a manager? If you don't make your sales quota, would firing your boss improve your numbers? Have any of you guys worked construction? When the project runs over budget, or falls behind a month, do you fire the site foreman? Does that make the quality of your work better?

I watched K-19 "The Widowmaker" last night. Harrison Ford and Liam Neeson are Soviet officers of a nuclear sub on its maiden voyage in 1961 (based on true story). The Communist party heads have placed tremendous political and military importance on the timely launch and successful operation of this powerful, strategic sub. As it heads out of the port, one of the Communist leaders says, "I hope we have chosen the right man," speaking of the ship's commander (Harraison Ford's character). When problems begin to surface because of shoddy or rushed work on the infrastructure...and critical equipment is missing because the government supplier ran out...and young and/or inexperienced engineers and doctors are forced into service because others were found drunk...all the suspicion and blame came down on the captain. The conclusion back in Moscow was that they had chosen the wrong man. It wasn't until 1989 that the truth came out...and they probably had the right man all along.

Niners fans are hellbent to lynch the Captain (Mariucci), even though it is obvious to anyone with an offseason wish list of WRs, OL, LDE, CBs, TE and special teams that the 49ers ship is terribly flawed.

I said it the other day, and I will say it again...I don't think Bill Walsh himself could have won the Super Bowl with this quarterback, with this team. It is inherently flawed. If Mariucci moves on, you will not be any closer to the Super Bowl unless HUGE personnel changes are made.

You have to go back to the 1986 playoffs to find a 49ers team that scored less in a playoff game. A 49-3 loss to the New York Giants. Bill Walsh was the coach, Joe Montana was the quarterback, Jerry Rice dropped the ball running for a 50 yard touchdown...with a better QB and more talent, Walsh got clocked by a lesser team. Tel me Niners Faithfuls, were you blaming Walsh back then?
Subject: Horrible Game!


Author:
49ertothecore
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Date Posted: 15:49:43 01/13/03 Mon
What a horrible game all the way around, offensive impotence, untimely injuries, bad bounces, helpless defense, that game was horrible all the way around. 180 degress oposite of the last 20 minutes of the Giant game.

The thing that bugs me the most is why do we wait till the opponent buries us before we make coaching adjustments, cripes we didn't even start blitzing and turning up the defensive heat until we were 25 points down, that just doesn't get it, I know we were depleted defensively but what the hell, at least go down giving yourself a fighting chance.

Why not come out no-huddle and attack Tampa Bay from the get go, the outcome certainly couldn't have been much worse, at least the players and fans would've had the pleasure of fighting and seeing there team go down swinging.

Mooch and Mora don't have the confidence and courage to make "gutsy/risky decisions" until it's to late most of the time. In my opinion "playing it safe" isn't going to win superbowls.
Subject: What's up Tank?


Author:
2winspapa
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Date Posted: 16:10:23 01/13/03 Mon
Hey brother calm down and take a deep breath. We're all bummed here and we're no different than other fans, we sometimes believe and see what we want and it may sometimes be through "rose tinted" glasses but that's no reason to jump ship, which is what you almost sound like you're doing with all of the deferences to "your team" and "you will not....."

You're as an impassioned fan as has been on this forum, you speak the truth but like the rest we're flawed and we each have differing points of view.

I was completely bummed when we got clocked by the g-men but I saw by the evidence on the field, in the draft, in the trades, etc., that Walsh was THE MAN. He was tough as nails, yet a scholar...he was the proverbial "wolf in sheep's clothing" He looked like the friendly neighbor but would doze your house over if you tried to mess with his team. He was ruthless and passionate about the game....and he was a winner. The team believed in him and his philosophy, which isn't necessarily the case with Mooch. Mooch plays not to lose or has been for awhile, whereas, Walsh was always looking for a way to tear the other team's throat out. That's the difference as I see it.

In the NFL you need big ones....big brass ones or you get run over like we did yesterday.
Subject: Oh Well


Author:
Jim Burke
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Date Posted: 16:16:56 01/13/03 Mon
This was the first game all year that I wasn't upset. We had to go on the road and try and beat the number one defense in the league. Very tough thing to do, even if you play the perfect game. Garcia was wearing a target all game, the injuries didn't help any, they got every bounce, and our defense got absolutely no pressure on Johnson and in turn the secondary got torched.

I'm NOT going to BLAME anyone here.

This is a time to take a step back and review what has happened over the year, and what it will take to get to the next level.

I'd like to see us get some help on both the D-line and the O-line, Another option offensively whether its a WR, TE or Barlow or Hearst stepping up. Garcia is fine, I think he can take us to the next level but needs more help then just Owens. Peterson can do it all but again he needs help, Carter looks like he can dominate but needs to step up in big games. Parrish and Bronson are great.

The worst thing about this loss is now we have to wait until August to see our boys again.

Go Niners
Out.
Subject: 49ers future - best case scenario!


Author:
49ertothecore
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Date Posted: 16:32:30 01/13/03 Mon
Bite the bullet & clean house & keep building for a coaching staff & players for the future. I agree TANK, there needs to be some serious personnel upgrades with players and coaches and QB, otherwise we'll keep getting this impotent & inconsitent garbage. We had a bad year with injuries but that just further exposed areas of weakness (coaching and quality personnel depth). IMHO I think the best case scenario would be :

#1 - Jacksonville, Detroit, Cincinatti, someone out there "steals" Mooch away from us with some decent compensation (1st & 3rd this year, 2nd & 4th next year).

#2 - Trade Garcia for some good draft picks or players while he still has somthing left.

#3 - Sign Jake Plummer (QBOTF) & Boston (compliment for T.O.) from Arizona.

#4 - Draft for quality & depth on the DL, OL, TE, WR & DB.

#5 - Sign at least 2 quality veteran CB's.

#6 - Bring in Dennis Green or George Seifert to be head coach.

#7 - Bring in Ray Rhodes or someone comporable to him to run the defense.

#8 - Bring in a competent OC who can run a the Walsh WCO

#9 - Unload some dead weight : Stokes, Okeafor, Moran, Flanigan, Stubblefield?

If we could accomplish the above and infuse new talent from the draft, FA & players lost for the year like Winborn, Curtis, Terry Jackson, Jimmy Williams it might take us a while to get things going but at least we would have a good, young, quality foundation to build from.

Personally, I don't think Mooch, Mora, Knapp & Garcia are the answer to return the 49ers to what 49ers fans of old are used to. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Subject: Were We Watching TheSame Game?


Author:
TANK
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Date Posted: 16:41:47 01/13/03 Mon
Core: You said the 49ers didn't make any adjustments until they were down by 25 points. I thought the 49ers went into the no-huddle when they took over the ball with 3:10 eft in the first half, and the score 21-6...a two touchdown game? The problem is, Garcia threw an INT...game over.

On defense, they made their first adjustment when Plummer got knocked out on the fifth play. They made their next adjustment when Duane Hawthorne got injured...that is when they loaded up on safeties and had Tony Parrish in man coverage. He got burned and it became apparent they couldn't cover the receivers...not an admission the players were anxious to hear (talk about a vote of no confidence), so Mora began blitzing the next series...and Pittman swept left, away from the blitz, and picked up 24 yards to the 4 yard line.

Wher was Terrell Owens? I know that everyone likes to quote Mariucci's famous words that "we throw it to who I say we trow it to," but then why didn't Garcia checkdown to Owens? What did everyone think of Garcia's audible when he detected a blitz (that never came). He rolled out right...how predictable...and the Bucs' had the area flooded. Garcia didn't even look back to see two receivers (including Owens) wide open in the middle of the field, 15-20 yards deep.

I won't argue this any further, but I am going to say it just to get it off my mind: "Garcia is not a very good pocket passing, WCO quarterback." He is a backup being asked to carry an offense with key missing weapons and a fiesty but limited offensive line. He excells when things break down against tired or ineffective defenses...but he is not equiped to take control of a game from the start against a very good defense. Not consistantly.

Just ask yourself...how much seperates him and Tim Rattay or Cade McNown? If it isn't much, would it be unreasonable to trade him? How would want him, and what would they give us for him? Honestly? Could Donahue get a first? From which team? Cincinnati desperately needs a QB, but they would rather have the #1 pick and their choice of Leftwich or Palmer. Chicago? Don't hold your breath. Carolina? Hah!

What about Hearst? He clearly isn't the future. Barlow was virtually forgotten in the playoffs. Could Hearst be traded for a first day pick?

Lets face it guys, other teams don't covet our stars (other than Terrell Owens). He is the only guy on our offense that another team would give us first round picks for.

Hey, I am an equaly opportunity trader. I would let Steve Mariucci go to, for draft picks...not because he sucks or has short comings. The 49ers need talent! I am telling you, this team needs more impact players. We aren't going to get to the next level with the 26th pick in the first round. Donahue needs to be as aggressive as everyone wants Mariucci to be. The fact that we have the same needs this offseason that we had last offseason tells me that Terry Donahue didn't do all that he needed to do last March-June, 2002.

GBN Reports writes: "Jacksonville owner Wayne Weaver is being quoted as saying that the Jaguars would be very retiscent about giving up any draft picks in order to sign a new coach. Weaver didn't mention Mariucci by name as he is
still under contract with the 49ers, but Weaver did indicate that he feels that the Jaguars roster, which has been decimated by salary-cap induced free agent losses the past few years, simply has too many holes to fill to give up any draft picks."

That paints the picture fans. You need the talent, not just the coach. Weaver gets it. Too bad so many Niners fans don't.
Subject: Hah Hah!! Good one core...


Author:
fearyaks
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Date Posted: 17:03:11 01/13/03 Mon

#2 - Trade Garcia for some good draft picks or players while he still has somthing left.

#3 - Sign Jake Plummer (QBOTF) & Boston (compliment for T.O.) from Arizona.

#4 - Draft for quality & depth on the DL, OL, TE, WR & DB.


#2 - In case you haven't noticed there aren't many NFL trades. Mostly due to salary cap reasons we'd take an enormous hit and the team picking up Jeff would have to do some squeezing. Face it Garcia is on the team for another couple of years. Like it or not he gives our team the best chance at winning. Man how soon us 49er fans forget his game against the Giants.

#3 - Sign Jake the Fake and David the Coke fiend Boston? That would be swell. Perhaps having Jake throwing some 'behind the back laterals' to Barlow would get us over the playoff hump!!! In all honesty how good would Jake Plummer vs the Tampa Bay Buccaneers look???? The Bucs made mincemeat out of Brett Favre, Mike Vick and Aarron Brooks this season.
And David Boston? Come on. What has he ever done outside of last season that makes you think he'd be a difference maker? Remember people, he's coming off of a knee injury and has a sketchy past.

#4 - Isn't that what every team does every year????
Subject: fearyaks - yes, but


Author:
49ertothecore
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Date Posted: 17:57:14 01/13/03 Mon
fearyaks - #4, but if we could pick up some additional high draft picks for the likes of Mooch & Garcia, that would enable us to get some premium draft picks. Kinda how Walsh parlayed our #3 pick into multiple #1's, 2's & 3's in 2000.

#3 - If Boston doesn't get a clean bill of health, this is supposed to be a banner year for WR's, we could draft a couple that would soon make Streets a #3 or #4. Like I have said in the past, I think a change of scenery for Plummer would do wonders for his career, he is mobile but a better pocket passer than Garcia and able to make throws that we can only dream about as 49er fans. I think Boston would thrive playing opposite Owens!

#2 - I could live with Garcia until the next QBOTF surfaces if we didn't get Jake, could it be McNown or Doman?

Like TANK was saying, I hope York listens to Walsh & Donahue and I hope they "get after it" and make some bold decisions for 2003-4 season.
Subject: TANK - from your mouth to their ears!


Author:
49ertothecore
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Date Posted: 18:01:51 01/13/03 Mon
Regarding Garcia, from your mouth to their ears. I kinda hope they play a little chess game with Mooch and those who would be interested in him and could get us some compensation that would translate into better talent on the roster and on the field.
Subject: 2winspapa...The Way I See It.


Author:
TANK
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Date Posted: 18:19:10 01/13/03 Mon
Twins Daddy: Calm down and take a deep breath? Why? I'm not crying about yesterday's loss. I saw it coming weeks ago. I tried to tell everyone not to get their hopes up, that the team had too many deficiencies...lacking key players at key positions, I think I called it. I am not calling for coaches to be fired. I am just asking for perspective? You say, "that's no reason to jump ship, which is what you almost sound like you're doing..."

How absolutely absurd of you to say that.

By the way, just for a little more perspective on Walsh's 1986 playoff loss to the NY Giants, 49-3. You are right, nobody questioned Walsh - he had done a terrific job building a squad through the draft AND free agency (Joe Cribbs, Tom Cousineau, Russ Francis, Jeff Kemp, Wendel Tyler, Kenny Margerum, Manu Tuiasosopo, Tory Nixon, etc.)...of course these were the days when Eddie DeBartolo outspent everybody...and his offense was the new standard...his coaches were the most respected (Holmgren, Rhodes).

In fact, after this crushing loss, nobody was saying the Walsh's totally dominated offense (ONLY 3 points) needed more power on the offensive line (which consisted of Fahnhorst, Paris, Cross, McIntyre, Quillen, Wallace, Ayers), or an improved #2WR (Rice, Clark, Wison, Margerum, ), or another complimentary tightend (Francis & Frank). The runningbacks on the 1986 roster were Tyler, Cribbs, Rathman and Craig...no apparent needs there. Are we clear about the talent? THREE POINTS!

For that matter, nobody would have suggested Walsh needed to upgrade his pass rush (Tuiasosopo, Michael Carter, Charles Haley, Jim Stuckey, Dwaine Board, Larry Roberts) or that he needed a better nickelback (he had Wright, Lott, Griffen, Fuller, McKyer, Williamson, Nixon, McLemore, Holmoe). His kicker was Wersching.

Hell, the ONLY thing Walsh needed was a better backup to Joe Montana...so he traded for Steve Young shortly after the loss.

So, everyone is readily admitting that Mariucci's team has serious deficiencies...needing everything that Walsh had, from a solid offensive line - the foundation of any offense, to an impact #2WR, to a quarterback who can lead in the WCO like Montana. Oh, and he needs cornerbacks and a pass rush. You can scrutinize Mariucci for some play calling, or clock management...but he turned the youngest team in the NFL from a 6-10 to 12-4...in one season. That man can coach.

By the way...check out that defensive personnel again. They gave up 49 points to Phil Simms! The defensive coordinator was Ray Rhodes.

I'm not crying 2winspapa...I am laughing.
Subject: Wow there cowboy


Author:
Bob
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Date Posted: 18:35:58 01/13/03 Mon
Why is everyone shitting a brick over this game?

Yea it is a kick to the nuts and yea it ends our season but think of all that we accomplished with less.

Bronson was out
Winborn was out
Fiore was out
Parker was out
Rasheed was in and out
Curtis was out
Webster was in and out
Heard was in and out
Owens was in and out
Ron Stone was in and out

The list goes on and on

Think about the good stuff.

We learned that we can use TO with double coverages and schemes to prevent him from gettign the ball

Tai Streets stepped up

Julian Peterson stepped up as a premier player

Andre Carter stepped up,others did not

6 probowlers

Tony Parrish flourished

Winborn showed probowl like play,hopefully he can do the same in 2003


Tank and others want to slash and burn the team.To some extent we might need to but we dont have to be Bill Walsh and release our entire team like he did during our "rebuilding years."

Garcia is good enough.He isn't Michael Vick,he is isn't Young or Montana.

But he is good enough to lead us to a superbowl.

Why isn't everyone saying Young cost us the supervowl when we were 13-3 (1998?),homefield advantage throughtout the playoffs,#1 D, Rice and Owens, Hearst, and the rest.

He needs more help.

Why don't we fire Donahue too?He gave us Flanigana and Moran and the rest of non producers.

It just didn't go our way this year.

The Marines are so good at what they do because they pay attention to details, just so it becomes second nature.
Everything has to be dusted and cleaned,and polished, and extreme discipline.

We need to show that everywhere.

Draft,practice,mini camp,training camp,game,pre game,post game,speeches.

Trade up in the draft to get Terrel Suggs!why?To show killer instinct!

This season was overblown in all actuality.I as well as everyone else here wanted a 6th ring but it wasn't all that likely.

And so it begins, off season talk
Subject: Core...My Garcia Comments


Author:
TANK
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Date Posted: 19:01:42 01/13/03 Mon
I don't think much seperates Garcia from Rattay or McNown. These guys are all backup caliber quarterbacks. My point in framing Garcia in tems of a trade weren't so much because I think it is plausible...I don't think we can absorb the salary cap hit. I just wanted people to consider what they though Donahue could fetch for Garcia on the open market. I don't think that any team with a first round pick would consider trading for Jeff. I think they would prefer to have Eli Manning, or Carson Palmer, or Byron Leftwich.

Terrell Owens is the only guy on the 49ers offense that other teams would be willing to give up a first round pick for...maybe Newberry, too. The point was, this offense isn't that talented, so the frustration with its uninspired play in the WCO is to be expected.

It sounds like Okeafor won't be back. I would guess that either Deese or Fiore are waived...you can't have two, undersized linemen who cannot make it through the season in one piece. Deese breaks down every year. Fiore is a seven year veteran with only one 16 game season to his credit. Lets face it, we need big, strong, healthy beef at the end of the season, and these two guys cannot be relied upon to be there.

Ira Miller writes today, "there's the matter of the ofensive line, an area already neglected for far to long. Derrick Deese plays gamely as an undersized tackle..." When you look up "gamely" in the dictionary, it does not mention the Pro Bowl.

Barlow is frustrated and rightly so. Six touches combined in two playoff games? Maybe he should spend the offseason practicing picking up the blitz...then Hearst would be expendable.

Watch for Derek Smith to be replaced at starting ILB. All his tackles are five yards later than when they should have been made.

Speaking of Miller's first day of the offseason analysis, everything he mentions, he said in his article January 14, 2002. While you are demanding aggressive play calling, and aggressive coaching, don't forget to demand the same of the front office. Maybe Walsh proved himself so us fans don't question him, but at this moment, Donahue's solo flight last offseason included Rumph, a trade DOWN, Rasheed knowing about Ramadaan, Chandler - two place kickers on the 53 man roster...(meanwhile Pittsburg scores with an UDFA they scored at the end of November and went 18 of 19 in FG's attempts, plus kickoffs to the end zone)...John Engelberger, Sean Moran, the Austin Lee experiment...

Greg Knapp is unemployed this morning.
Subject: I still can't believe.....


Author:
RageFX
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Date Posted: 19:04:56 01/13/03 Mon
I still can't believe all this Jake "The Snake" Plummer talk. Yes Walsh liked him coming out of college but lets face it the guy wouldn't be the QBOTF that we need. Those of you who hate Garcia (and I'm not one of them) will have a field day with Plummer after just one season. Thats all I'm going to say because I have already commented on this.
Lets come to our senses people he is probly going to the Bears anyway.

Boston and TO on the same Offense sounds nice but I just don't think that it will happen and even if it did, I doubt that it would work well for many reasons, all of you could realistically think of a few.

A Note on the Bucs game and our season:

I for one am glad our season is over, however I'm not happy about how it ended but what can you do. Our Defense and Special Teams just completely ran out of gas and had nothing left. We had by far the WORST Defense and Special Teams out of any team left in the playoffs. Championship teams are balenced like Philly that is what usally wins trophies. If our Defense had played like it had in the begining of the season I think we would have had a great chance to go all the way, but as the season went on it became clear that the Defense as a whole were fading.

Mostly because of our Offense and the Fire of its main playmakers our season was prolonged probly one game longer than it should have been. It really did feel like we escaped our fate in the Giants game (anyone see the movie Final Destination) and it showed what Garcia and the Offense was really capable of.

I think when you analyze the players on our Defense our unit looks impressive and most of them are, but the injuries and other factors were just to much to overcome.I commend Mora for the most part on his attempts to keep things going but the task was just to daunting.

Special Teams were just sorry besides Williams. You know its pathetic when you are happy that your kick/punt returner didn't fumble regardless of how many yards he gained, "just catch the damn ball" I would always say.

Overall I still believe when healthy that we are one of the more talented teams in the NFL at least in the Top 10. We just need a few more Key players on both sides of the Ball to be complete and hopefully management will take care of that during this offseason with some choice FAs and Draft Picks.

I see this season not as a step backwards but as a step in the right direction. We had a harder schedule and still posted a decent record and won the NFC West. We had some really exciting and great games and we had some really bad ones. Hopefully our team takes All of the good and Learns from the bad, it can only make them stronger.

and last but not least Mooch:

What can I say, I think he is a great guy and a great representative for our team and the NFL in general.

However, I think it is time for him to move on. WE have all debated the Mooch/Conservatisum issue to death and while I do think he is a great coach, I believe he would be a great coach for a different team. The Team is almost always an overall reflection of the Head Coach and I for one think that its time for a change in the image that we see when we look at the Niners.

As for who should be the next unfortunate victim, because lets face it fans, it really is a thankless job, I haven't the time to even consider our options or even if there are any. I do agree with TDon's statment about not wanting a Lame Duck coach, if a choice is to be made it needs to be done now no more playing around.

Anyway, If all goes well this Offseaon we might be looking at True Championship team next season. We have alot to be Thankful for and It looks as though things are only going to get better. I feel #6 coming on really soon :)
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