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Subject: Kevin


Author:
Anthony49
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Date Posted: 02:26:20 01/11/03 Sat
Kevin,

Well, you know, there are damned lies, and then there are statistics ... or something like that. ;-)

It's true, though, that the 49'er offense has not been terribly explosive, and has resembled the incredibly boring Gruden efficient creation in Florida.

Too many reasons, a lot of blame to spread around.

At any rate, there need to be some serious upgrades in the offensive personnel this off-season.

But let's talk about that in ... hopefully 3 weeks.

:-)

Tank,

It appears that I wrote that entire last post directed to you ... actually, only the 1st sentence is directed to you, the rest is a general comment. Sorry about the poor structure of my rant.
Subject: Final Thought about the Playoffs


Author:
Anthony49
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Date Posted: 02:34:26 01/11/03 Sat
You know, the only thing I can say with relative certainty about this weekend in a season of incredible uncertainty, is this:

There is no way in hades that all four top seeds advance.

In other words, one or more of the four home teams is going to be upset, I gare-ron-tee it.

And of these four suspects, Tampa Bay seems the most vulnerable.

1) Terrible history in Playoffs

2) Brad Johnson is rusty, and without him, Tampa has been abysmal offensively

3) Tampa's running game is piss-poor. Gruden, more than anything else, wants a running game.

4) 49'ers might be beat up, but they are young, and they are most certainly not rusty, and are looking to prove something

5) The 49'er rushing attack up the middle actually seems to favor the 49'ers with 'Booger' out of the lineup. If Newberry and Stone can get push inside, Barlow could have a big day.

6) The Tampa offensive line is horrible. If the 49'ers can get good pressure on Brad Johnson, he could easily bow out before 4 Q's of football.

7) Score 21 points, and run the ball, and you're going to beat Tampa.

8) The 49'ers have won 17 out of 18 playoff games when winning the turnover margin. The 49'ers lead the NFL in turnover percentage this season, and if they take care of the ball, I can almost guarantee they win the turnover battle, because Johnson is sure to throw a couple of rusty balls that are intercept-able.

It could easily come down to ST's.

(oh geez)

At any rate, Tampa Bay is VERY vulnerable.

This is a VERY winnable game for Mooch and the 49'ers.

But all I know is that all four homes teams will NOT win. SOMEBODY is going to fall. I'd be willing to bet the house on that one.

SOMEBODY is going to fall, and it might as well be Tampa Bay!

Go 9'ers!
Subject: Garcia Ball


Author:
RageFX
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Date Posted: 03:01:32 01/11/03 Sat
I think when people mention "Garcia Ball" they
are talking about the no-huddle that Garcia seems
to be so good at and the wide open 3 and 4 WR quick
attack style of offense, also the freelancing aspect. These things are in stark contrast to Mooch's desired
offensive style and pace. I strongly believe there is a time and a place for both.
Subject: The Short Passing Game


Author:
Uncle Kevin
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Date Posted: 03:25:14 01/11/03 Sat
Buddy

Re your question about long passes in the last game...I came across the following in an article on the CBS Sportsline site.

--Coming off a game in which Garcia passed for 331 yards, Mariucci was in the 49ers' weight room Tuesday when he struck up a conversation with WR Terrell Owens.

"Did you realize, we didn't throw a pass longer than 12 yards down the field?" Mariucci asked his star receiver.

"Yes, we did," Owens replied.

But Mariucci was adamant. "No we didn't," he shot back.

"What about the pass I threw?" Owens responded.

True. Mariucci admitted his mistake. Owens threw a pass to Tai Streets on a reverse that traveled about 20 yards down the field and resulted in a 15-yard gain."
Subject: Skip Bayless gets it right(for a change)


Author:
TIM
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Date Posted: 11:04:10 01/11/03 Sat
I can't believe I am recomending a Skip Bayless article(San Jose Mercury News,Jan. 11) but I agree with just about everything in it. http://spazioinwind.libero.it/sf49ers/sjm1101a.html Check it out! TIM
Subject: Madden says Mooch will probably leave after this season


Author:
TIM
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Date Posted: 11:41:02 01/11/03 Sat
Another article on Jan 11th in the San Jose Mercury,this time by Dennis Georgatos states that John Madden says he thinks Mooch will not be back with the 49ers next year!!! Madden thinks the same senario that led to Gruden leaving the Raiders is in place with Mooch and the Niners and he thinks it will play out the same way.
Georgatos also said that 8 of the 49ers 17 assistant coaches contracts are up in a few weeks and that last year they were ALL offered extentions by York but ALL of them turned him down!!! Georgatos said maybe it was because there was little or no pay raises included in the extentions.Maybe they all want to keep their options open so they can freely follow Mooch if he leaves as Madden has stated he will. Of course York has denied talking to Madden about any of this. It seems that this all fits in with the strategy of offering Mooch a lowball contract extension(just like the assistants got)and when Mooch is insulted and turns it down then York can say he is letting Mooch go at Mooch's request because Mooch didn't want the new contract he was offered.He will claim he is just cutting costs like he said he would last week and that under those new cost cutting guidelines he couldn't offer Mooch as much as Mooch wanted(or could get elsewhere).The behind the sceens manuevering is getting very interesting to watch. Personally I believe Mooch will wind up staying but behind the smiles and public statements the pot is really starting to boil !!! Interesting stuff! TIM
Subject: Tampa


Author:
Jim Burke
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Date Posted: 13:29:37 01/11/03 Sat
Does anyone know the weather forecast for the game sunday? Is anyone worried about cramping?

The Defense MUST get to Brad Johnson, without that there is no way we win! Andre has got to take his helmet and hit Johnson as many times as he can. If BY and Stubby can get a push in the middle we'll be ok. Make Johnson throw to the sidelines, his arm isn't that strong and hopefully we can get a couple turnovers.

I'm glad we resigned Vinny, he's not spectacular but he's sure handed. Cedric worries me. Also can we get someone to kick off? We must get that kick deeper. WE MUST WIN THE FIELD POSITION GAME!!!!!!
There is no way we can drive 80-90 yards all game.

I'm tellin' ya Mooch watch the Steelers-Bucs game you do that and we'll win. The offence has got to be patient, keep that Bucs D out there a long time, and take some shots, but don't force it. Throw in a couple trick plays? A reverse to Vinny? Make 'em think. Hammer the ball up the middle and run to Rice's side, cause he wants to get to the QB.

Go Niners
Out!
Subject: tape of game


Author:
Steve
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Date Posted: 18:36:16 01/11/03 Sat
Does anyone have a vhs copy of the giants/niners game? It was so incredible, I live in Dallas and (obviously) no one taped it and I am dying to get my hands on a copy.

Best Regards,

steve@tbmg.com
Subject: New article up!


Author:
TrevortheGreat of Trevor's Corner
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Date Posted: 05:46:59 01/12/03 Sun
Jeff Garcia has officially attained the status of football god.

Say what you will about his goofy mechanics, his jumpiness in the pocket, his drive-you-crazy checkdowns, and that little lisp in his voice that has his, uh, priorities in question. His performance against the Giants on Sunday, January the fifth, two thousand and three established him as one of the greatest clutch players in the NFL today and, as mentioned, a football god.

Check out Trevor's Corner to read about Garcia's arrival, my thoughts on last week's game, my predictions on this week's game, and an exciting new Madden Simulator! Thanks for the support!

Trevor
Subject: 9ers


Author:
Bryan - Admin
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Date Posted: 09:39:42 01/12/03 Sun

Greant banter everyone keep it up!

Sorry about the delay yesterday!

Great article Trev.

Subject: Eric Johnson


Author:
TIM
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Date Posted: 14:00:57 01/12/03 Sun
The games about ready to start! Just thought I'd mention how well Eric Johnson has been playing lately.He was only healthy for the last 2 weeks of the regular season and I believe since then he has been a stud. If I recall he has had about 6 or 7 catches a game since then. Last week he had a better day than that punk Shockey but still didn't get much credit. Today he will need to come up big again for the Niners to get past the Bucs. I think he will have a big game!!! GO NINERS !!!!!TIM
Subject: Another wasted first half


Author:
TIM
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Date Posted: 15:46:06 01/12/03 Sun
42 seconds to go in the half and down by 22 points. What do you do ? If you are Mooch you run the ball and then let the clock run out without even trying to score! They could get into field goal posistion with around 40 more yards. Why give up?You could see that was the question on T.O's mind as he stormed off the field.If they make a great comeback again like last week but fall a few points short then everyone will be asking why Mooch quit on his team! Or maybe his head is already in Jacksonville or Detroit.I hope his body catches up with his head really soon! Good grief!!!TIM
Subject: Garbage


Author:
Forty
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Date Posted: 15:47:44 01/12/03 Sun
Well another embarassing performance by the defense. I am tired of hearing about the injuries. These guys are all being payed and they are not performing. There is a big problem when you have no bakups that you have confidence in playing DB. and you have to put Parish there. Pretty sad when you think about it. It is obvious that Bronson is not ready yet, why not play Keith.

Pretty scared tatic at the end of the half by the niners running the clock out. Looks like they (coaches) were scared of another turnover.

Fire Mora. I see where Rhodes resigned from Denver.

What a good game plan by the niners. We should have tried to run on this defense because the wont be much success pasing against them.
Subject: game


Author:
Ed
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Date Posted: 16:30:32 01/12/03 Sun
The niners lost this game in the 1st quarter when they went 3 and out after the interception with the 3 most predictable plays ever called by a niner coach.
Subject: Bye, bye Mora...


Author:
David Pallas
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Date Posted: 17:02:12 01/12/03 Sun
If Bill Walsh, Terry Donahue and Steve Mariucci (if he is still around after the season) are committed to winning, Jim Mora Jr. would not be the defensive coordinator next season. His continuous "bend but do not break defense" simply does not work. He has no understanding of when to blitz, when to play zone, or when to play man-to-man defense. Thus, the 49ers third down scheme is horrible and usually results in first down for the opposing offense. The term "attack" is not in his defensive vocabulary and his style lost games in New Orleans and St. Louis and nearly games against Seattle, Arizona and Kansas City. They do not attack weaker offenses, allowing all-world quarterbacks like Matt Hasselbeck, Jake Plummer, Trent Dilfer, Drew Brees, and Kerry Collins look like future Hall of Famers.

The 49ers are as talented defensively as Philadelphia and Tampa Bay, arguably the top two defenses in the league. Although the pass rush is horrible and non-existent, Andre Carter consistently gets to the quarterback and Bryant Young is still solid despite constantly being double teamed. The linebackers are athletic and fast yet they miss too many tackles. Additionally, there is no disguising of or creativity in blitz packages which usually allows the offense to prepare and audible at the line. Julian Peterson is becoming a star and Derek Smith solidifies the middle. However, the weakest link is Jeff Ulbrich. At best, a decent reserve on most teams, he somehow amazes me with the playing time and four year contract extension he received. He takes himself out of the play, gets overpowered in the running game, and simply cannot cover anyone. The secondary, although getting torched this season, is the strongest part of the team. At safety, Zack Bronson and Tony Parrish form one of the best safety duos in the league. Ahmed Plummer is a solid cornerback and will be in the Pro-Bowl in a couple of years. Jason Webster, although small, is solid cover corner although he does get overpowered by bigger wide receivers. Both are strong tacklers and provide solid run support. Mike Rumph was drafted for his physical play against bigger receivers. However, Jim Mora Jr., being the defensive genius he is, opts to play Rumph in a read and react scheme, something he is not suitable to play at this point in his career. Think it’s a lack of talent? Mike Rumph gave up ONE touchdown reception in FOUR years at the University of Miami.

I don't know how many more free agent signings and defensive drafts the 49ers must endure before they realize it isn't the players, but the philosophy. It is simply not working. Dave Campo, although not a successful pro coach, had no talent in Dallas, yet had a strong defense. Ray Rhodes, who resigned in Denver, had an attacking top-ten defense. Should the 49ers let go Mariucci, Marvin Lewis would be an excellent fit. He is a defensive wizard and would drastically improve the defense. If you think that the problem lies within the 49ers talent, look no further than the Indianapolis Colts. With no talent on defense, but a solid scheme, the Colts soared from 29th in 2001 and 21st in 2000 to 8th this past year. The problem lies within the coach, not the players.
Subject: No respect for Mooch(the coach) from his players


Author:
TIM
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Date Posted: 17:32:53 01/12/03 Sun
Mike Shumann just reported from the 49ers sidelines that during the entire game that T.O.,Garcia and a number of offensive players have been YELLING and SCREEMING at Mooch and Knapp questioning the play calling(they obviously don't respect his coaching abilities although he is universally respected as a person and all around nice guy).They have been very unhappy with Moochball as have I for quite a while now!!!
If Rhodes resigned from Denver then maybe he and Dennis Green are on their way back home to the Niners.Let's hope there is a huge change in the coaching staff (I will leave the "who" to Bill Walsh and Donahue)! Even if the new staff doesn't work out as hoped then really how could it get much worse than Mooch and his staff have been?(it could be worse but the odds are that it will improve with a new staff) Time for a change!Unlike Mooch with 42 seconds to go in the 1st half I hope York and Donahue and Walsh have not GIVEN UP and that they at least try to improve the coaching staff.Yes our players were beaten by the Bucs players but we can get players healthy and can draft new players and sign free agents but if we don't upgrade from a little league coaching staff to a real NFL caliber staff then will it really matter when we face the NFL elite teams with their NFL caliber coaching staffs? I have been saying this for years,not just because we lost this game so pathetically.Unfortunantly (as much as I wish it wasn't so)I have been proven right! O line,WR,Corner,and especially pass rush must be upgraded before next season.I just hope they upgrade the coaching staff so they can keep up with the talented team they will have! TIM
Subject: Hmmmm...


Author:
TrevortheGreat of Trevor's Corner
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Date Posted: 17:42:59 01/12/03 Sun
David-

I'm inclined to agree with you on pretty much everything you've said. But forget about Marvin Lewis, he's supposedly a "lock" as Cincinatti Bengals head coach (and I'm sure he's thrilled. *cough*).

I mean, looking at the 49ers defense personnel-wise, these guys were built to be a baby Tampa Bay Bucs. Think about it:

Andre Carter is Simeon Rice.

Bryant Young is a much quieter Warren Sapp.

Jamie Winborn could have begun his development as a young Derrick Brooks type of player, were it not for a season-ending injury.

Ahmed Plummer and Jason Webster are the types of corners who thrive in the 2-Deep zone. Donnie Abraham and Ronde Barber were at the same place these guys are three years ago.

Tony Parrish isn't as savage a hitter as John Lynch, but his success is just as linked to his defense's success.

Julian Peterson is a type of player even the Bucs don't have.

With personnel like this, it comes down to two things: scheme and conditioning. I agree, Mora's schemes are pretty freakin' bad. While the front four showed the ability to create pressure this season (a dimension missing last season), Mora never adjusted when an offensive line played well against the 49ers. "Blitz" seemed like a swear word among defensive coaches. Indeed, it seems as though Mora was handed the defensive coordinator on name value alone, like I always suspected. A change should be made, and I agree that Ray Rhodes could definitely be a viable option, assuming he's not being pursued for a head coaching vacancy anywhere.

Something never mentioned, though, is conditioning. Injuries were a problem this year, just like in past years. In fact, it seems the 49ers never go through a season when all their players are healthy. Is it just me, or at some point doesn't it make sense that the strentgh & conditioning coordinator's job come under review? In today's NFL, teams can't establish stellar depth like they could in the 80s, and the teams who beats the injury bug has a leg up on other teams. Take the Jets: their starting lineup is no more talented than the 49ers, but the 49ers were missing players across the board all year: (note Dave Fiore, Zack Bronson, Ronnie Heard, Jason Webster, Ahmed Plummer, Jamie Winborn, Saleem Rasheed, etc.) The ability to keep players healthy is paramount these days.

Much as I thought last week's win over the Giants would save Steve Mariucci's job, I can't help but think that, after seeing the looks on the faces of Bill Walsh and Terry Donahue midway through the 3rd quarter that maybe they've finally had enough.

My idol John Madden mentioned earlier this week that he thought the Jacksonville Jaguars would come up and offer the 49ers a similar compensation package to the one the Raiders got for Jon Gruden for Mariucci. Mariucci's in much the position Gruden was last year: staring the last year of his deal in the face, knowing that management is disenchanted with him, seeing other suitors lining up around the league. I think right now it's 50-50 as to whether the 49ers are coached by Steve Mariucci next year.

I love Mooch and I respect what he's done with the team, but at some point a good situation goes sour. Mariucci's a good coach and the 49ers are a good team and a classy organization, but I think I finally see that these two are just wrong for one another. It'll be interesting to see how the Niners handle the offseason this year. They're going to gain some wiggle room under the cap to start filling holes, and the coaching situation is one that must be addressed. Either Mariucci gets his extension or he's gone. Bar none.
Subject: The Offseason


Author:
Cory
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Date Posted: 17:52:10 01/12/03 Sun
Well the 49ers have been knocked out of the playoffs, but they did make progress this season by winning the NFC West and winning a game in the playoffs.

The big question is what do you think the 49ers have to do to advance to the Super Bowl?

First off I think the 49ers should draft the best player avaliable with their first round pick but they need to draft DE's and CB's with their next two or three picks. These positions are the weak links of the defense, but like I said in an earlier post, the 49ers are still a good defense when they are healthy. I don't know what the 49ers cap situation is, but they may also be able to address these positions through free agency.

Another question is what will happen with the coaching situation. There has been alot of pressure of Mariucci and Mora Jr., so there could be major changes there. Ray Rhodes resigned as defensive coordinator of the Broncos, even though they were a top 10 defense and Dennis Green removed his name from consideration from the Jacksonville job, so both these names are avaliable if changes are made, although I am in favor of keeping Mariucci around.

The final questions is whether the 49ers can get another player to make plays in the passing game besides T.O.
Tai Streets stepped up this year, but he also dissapeared at times too. JJ Stokes will be gone and Cedrick Wilson has not stepped up his play. Eric Johnson played well but he was hurt most of the season with a bad back. The 49ers should consider acquiring another WR in the draft or free agency.

This offseason is important because the NFC is getting tougher. The Rams will not have the same kind of season they had this year and the Cowboys with Bill Parcells could get better in a hurry. Those two teams along with the Eagles, Bucs, Packers, Falcons, Giants, and Saints will compete for playoff spots next year.
Subject: Time for a change


Author:
2winspapa
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Date Posted: 17:53:34 01/12/03 Sun
I was hoping that last week wasn't a fluke so far as allowing the players to play the game, by turning them loose and playng more aggressively on offense. But Mooch as has been the case the entire season with the exception of a few mintues here and a few minutes there, was pathetically predicatble.

That alone was enough for the niners front office to consider making a few changes, but I tell you what broke the camel's back imho, it was wimping out and leaving the field with time on the clock, at midefield and timeouts in the first half.....that spoke VOLUMES about this coach's lack of tenacity and strength. All I get from the players are courage, and heart, but from Mooch all I read is FEAR.

I know that some of you would disagree, but I personally believe that Mora for the most part has done the best job considering what he's had to work with.

If Rhodes becomes available? I like our chances there too...........

Green as head coach? That remains to be seen. I think we will learn sooner than later the fate of our coaching staff.

Donahue needs to take the gloves off too and get some personnel in to do the job to go back to the big game. I'm sick of all of this conservatism. This is the NFL for crying out loud!
Subject: One to grow on


Author:
9r4life
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Date Posted: 19:48:02 01/12/03 Sun
A positive from this season is we have some tremendous athletes on our team.

I, of course, agree with all. As I have consistently argued with some of you in this forum about Mooch being conservative, (and now I see you agree), he MUST be gone.

We always mention the phrase "KILLER INSTINCT", and the lack of it on our on team, Mariucci cut his own throat with that pathetic display of cowardism!! 38 seocnds 2 timeouts and the ball on the 40 yard line. Right in the middle of the field. He put his tail between his legs and wimpered off. I don't want our Niners to be thought of like that. He said after the half, "I DID NOT want to take a chance!!".
That is it!! Hopefully the final straw. Nothing personal, just business.

Seeing Walsh and Donahue up in the box, they looked like the mafia. Good things were not being said up there. Mooch is a good coach. But not for the system that the 49ERS have been built on.

1) A Reciever early in the draft would be nice. There are so many teams with awesome young receivers in the league.

2) Someone to compliment Andre Carter on the other side of the line.

3) L.B's will be solid. Peterson, Rasheem, Winborn

4) Safety's are set. Keith will be a solid back up.

5) Plummer and Webster are solid. Rumph had a good rookie season. With more of a pass rush, the corners will be better.

6) Release Stokes. He is so soft.

7) We need to run 1 R.B. Barlow is a stud. He needs to be the feature back.

Not a whole lot of things need to be done. We have a SOLID core. With the right coaching changes we should be fine.

Now we just leave it up to WALSH to work his MAGIC.

9r4life
Subject: Steve Marriucci


Author:
Domingo
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Date Posted: 20:24:15 01/12/03 Sun
I am always reluctant to criticize coaching. I hope that I know enough to know that I really dont know enough to knock the coaches very often.

So I will quote Bill Walsh to make a point about Steve Marriuccis future.

Actually Bill Walsh was quoting Al Davis when Walsh anounced that he was quitting as head coach of the 49ers after the 89 super bowl.

Walsh said that after a certain length of time a head coach simply loses his effectivness as the leader of a team and that it just becomes his time to move on, regardless of how good a coach is.

Thats the position I take with Steve Marriucci.

Hes a good coach who has taken us through some tough times.

Hes a class guy who has represented us well.

But it just might be his time.

If it is, if Donahue and Walsh decide to make a change I wish Mooch well.

If Donahue makes that decision then all the pressure falls on Donahue.

The lure of extra draft picks will be on everyones mind but does Donahue have the chutz to pull off the gambit that Al Davis did so masterfully last season?

That was a complicated move to say the least and I am not confident in Donahues ability to duplicate what the Raiders did.

Regardless, the off season will be interesting.

Like the end of the 1999 season, the 49ers are at another cross roads. I hope that Donahue is compatant enough to see us through.

I have loved the 49ers for many, many years. Its always tough to see a season end like this but I take solace in one thing----

The 2003 offseason has begun!

Heres to Donahue and Walsh pulling some rabbits out of their hats!

God bless the 49ers in 2003!

Its gonna be our year baby!
Subject: Still don't have a trophy yet allen


Author:
2winspapa
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Date Posted: 20:26:37 01/12/03 Sun
I wouldn't go around berating other forums and their members. You don't like us or our team? Fine we don't like you or your team either....heck we've been pounding on them for so long off and on over the years I guess they were due, but that's still no reason to talk the kind of lame crap you see on so many other lame forums on THIS forum!

In other words, if you've got something to say, say it, but be civil, polite and intelligent. If none of that's possible go to the forums that accept that type of immature behavior.

And BTW, just in case you're forgetting while you're celebrating your delight, your team still doesn't have a lombardi trophy in it's case YET now does it?

That's what I thought.

GO EAGLES!
Subject: Allen sucks


Author:
Rod
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Date Posted: 20:51:03 01/12/03 Sun
Piss Off Allen.................You are a pure moron. Eat SHI$. How in the $$$$$ did you get on here again anywoy? If you ever get to Kentucky let me know.....Idiot.
Subject: Allen sucks


Author:
Rod
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Date Posted: 21:05:53 01/12/03 Sun
Top 10 things I think: 1) I will not miss Mooch 2) Raiders may go but loose 3) Sutherland looked like a keeper even with the fumble 4)ALLEN SUCKS and is a low class idiot 5) Jamal Robinson out of KY is projectet in the 1st round and I would love to see him in Gold 6)Garcia has his games 7) Garcia has his BAD games 8)Mooch, Izzo, and Tubby Smith must be tripplets seperated at birth 8) UK sucks in BBall worse than I have ever witnessed 9)I think 9ers with a GOOD coach are not far away 10) It seems we have become small and fast on D to compete with the Rams and now that doesn't matter..........Oh yea, I will throw in an eleven....11) Allen sucks..........Later
Subject: Keep me


Author:
Rod
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Date Posted: 21:15:19 01/12/03 Sun
Bryan, please dnot kick me off but Allen has got me going........Later
Subject: So predictable


Author:
Tim
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Date Posted: 21:59:33 01/12/03 Sun
The short term memory of some of the poster's on this board really amazes me. Did you really believe that last week's game was going to be the harbinger of some big change in the 49er Universe. The simple fact is that the Niner's got beat by a better team today. All of the the shortcomings that have been discussed to death in this forum came back to haunt them. Poor third down defense, no reliable third corner, lack of a pass rush, injuries all through the defense and, today especially, along the offensive line. Lack of any real playmakers beyond Owens and Garcia. I don't know about you guys but the game I saw showed the niners getting overpowered on the line when they had the ball and, again not be able to generate much pass rush when they were on defense, where they ended up having to play Rumph and Holman as their starters. Someone above said that the team had to quit using injuries as an excuse but the fact is that for today's game at least the niners didn't have two NFL quality corners that they could put on the field. Someone else mentioned that there was a report of Garcia and Owens yelling at Mariucci to open the game up. Correct me if I'm wrong but that wasn't Mariucci who threw 4 picks today and fumbled the ball away during your beloved no huddle drive. That wasn't Mariucci who wasn't able to keep the Bucs defensive lineman out of the backfield. That wasn't Mariucci that kept giving up third down completions so that his offense couldn't get back the field. So many of you guys seem to think that the team should just be able to come out and do whatever it wants on the field whenever it wants regardless of who they're playing. Tampa Bay has the #1 defdense in the league my guess is the way you play that team is to get your offense out on the field and see what works in a game situation. There's probably a limit to what you can plan before you're actually butting heads with people. You can't underestimate the emotional make up of a team on any given day. The Bucs players were clearly motivated to win. I'm sure the 49ers were too but it was so obvious that to me that they didn't have the talent to keep up with the Bucs. I'm surprised so few of you seem to have seen it. Instead it's the same sorry a$$ story that keeps getting told in this forum all the time. When the team wins it's the players who have done it despite the ineptitude of their coach. When they lose it's because Mariucci is too conservative. Personally I hope they give Mariucci a five year extension, though my guess is it will probably be three, if they offer it, then I hope they go out and get him the players he needs to really compete.
Subject: Tim - Adams


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9r4life
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Date Posted: 22:00:32 01/12/03 Sun
Tim

On a post a couple of days ago, you defended the coaches and said it is the players that lose the games. Then a cute little comment "SOME PEOPLE". And then here in 2 of your posts you are all over the coaching. And you write "you have had it for some time with Mooch". Very hypocritical. This seems to happen alot in here.

My question is Why? Why the hypocracy?? Do you enjoy just defending each other no matter the the subject or its matter? There is obviously a clan here and we call see it. But don't just defend somehting because it is one of your boys. Especially when it goes against a prior personal post. It is very frusterating!!!! I love a good debate, but debating to defend your partners is getting old. Not that I care, I get tired of the HYPOCRITES.

ADAMS - "WHAT ABOUT THEIR CALL TO GO TO HURRY UP?"

If you honestly consider that a coaching move, you are INSANE. That and the 2 point conversions were necessary plays and moves. Everyone on the planet knew what the hell was going to happen. Are you seriously saying that without coaching, we would have not gone into the hurry up?? Unbelievable and unacceptable. That is just more defense of the clan here in the FORUM.

Now I realize that I make alot of good points here, so I would appreciate the clan not huddling up and defending the "CLAN" comment.

I will give props to myself and know that this is a good post.

9r4life
Subject: FIRE the Coach, O-Line, D-Line, QB, DB's anyone Left?


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Oregon9erFan
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Date Posted: 22:01:28 01/12/03 Sun
Geez! Where do we start...Granted last week was exceptional but like the whole season too many Peaks and Valleys...What was Mooch thinking at the end of the half? Talk about throwing in the chips...No wonder the rest of the team cashed it in...We better start searching for a replacement for Jeff "Happy Feet" GAR-SEE-YA! He is just not comfortable back there. The O-Line should be called the NO-Line...These guys must love sandwiches because they provided the Swiss Cheese all day long for all the holes the Tampa D found. Infact, their eardrums must be aching for all the rushing air that was blowing by them as the defenders where huddling in the backfield...Hell, I can't put all the blame on the O-Line the D-line was nowhere to be found...You could take these guys out and drop them in the Bay and they would sink to the bottom with all the lead that seemed to be in their shoes...The D-Backs???...I seen better licks from my bitch dog...This game was a total breakdown...From the Coaching to the 53rd man...Nowhere was the game won...No facet was worthy of mention...Last week turns out to be a fluke...This week turns out to be Puke...Chuck Mooch...Denny Green? Mularky? HELL bring back Walsh anything but Mooch! How about 3rd stringer Feeney from the Eagles for Garcia...Straight up trade?...OK, OK, a 3rd rounder and Garcia...Draft a left O-Tackle, D-Tackle, D-Backs......I have been on the 49er Bandwagon since the Monte Clarke era (now, there's a story of management's screw up). I've seen the good, bad, and the ugly... Right now they're bad...But if things don't change, they can go UGLY real fast...Did somebody say call in a Janitor for a GOOD house cleaning...Now that I think about it, You better bring in a whole crew!!!Sorry...I know the truth hurts...But without the pain, there will be NO gain...
Subject: 9r4life


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9r4life
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Date Posted: 22:04:48 01/12/03 Sun
I eagerly await your thoughts!!

And as I was ranting in my last post here goes TIM again placing the blame back on the players and defending the coaches. And calling for other peoples accountability. You should not throw stones when you are CRIMINAL #1.

9r4life
Subject: Bucks, Off-Season...


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D-roc
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Date Posted: 22:20:43 01/12/03 Sun
Losses like this one to Tampa hurt, but considering our injuries on the defense... They were just the better team today, with a superior defense, and a roster unlike ours that is not injury depleted! I beleave in giving credit where credit is due. True 49ER'S fans all know: You WIN with CLASS and you LOSE with CLASS. I really feel that with a strong draft, and anouther year of experience, along with a HEALTHY roster, we will be a force next year! The injuries finally caught up to us, and while i hate to say this, i would rather lose in the divisional round of the playoffs, then the SUPER-BOWL! Due to the injuries, and the amount of yards the secondary was surrendering, the last few weeks of the season, and into the playoffs, i seriously doubt we could hang with the TITANS or RAIDERS... I know we beat the RAIDERS in the regular season, but we were a healthier team, and we still needed overtime to do it! When PLUMBER went down BRAD JOHNSON started to look like the frankenstein version of JOE MONTANA!!! Anyway, we had a good season, inconsistant but decent... Realize that even with the injuries, and a young team we were in the elite 8 folks!!! Moving on, what do our beloved 49er's need to do to capture that elusive 6th trophy?! I feel we need to draft a RECIEVER on the 1st day to finally take some heat off the best reciever in the league TO! I also feel that a stud DEFENSIVE TACKLE taken on the 1st day would not hurt? Next anouther defensive end to compliment CARTER!? Day two- anouther CORNER of course, and a couple of OFFENSIVE LINE-MAN??? Late round WALSH PICKS might include depth, for the d-line, o-line, and maybe safty, or tight end?! Just some thoughts, and i will look forward to reading this board all winter to get thoughts from the most informed fans on the planet!!! Finally, i hate this time of the year when our beloved team goes in to hybernation, but ams looking forward to a very interresting off season! Now that the NINER'S are out of salary cap hell, we should be able to bring in a quality FREE-AGENT or two??? MY wish list includes RECIEVER/CORNER! WOW- what a season i ams again proud as hell to be a 49er's fan!!! Great job bryan hope you get your thoughts, and emotions in order appreciate the work you do for us on the paradise!!! Thoughts, and opinions welcomed! peace- d-roc

ps hey ALLEN scram!
Subject: 9r4life & oregon


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fearyaks
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Date Posted: 22:48:44 01/12/03 Sun
9r4life - you are aware that there are 2 Tim's on this board right? Tim (initial cap) has been a Mooch defender and TIM (all caps) has been a Mooch hater for about half the year.

Oregon - You complain about the O-line then you say that Garcia has happy feet and is uncomfortable in the pocket. Geez, I wonder if it has anything to do with Rice and Sapp in his space???
I agree that our line play (O and D) is suspect. As for our corners... Well Mike Rumph and Rashad Holman don't really put fear into anyone's eyes. However I think Johnson just found it easier to pick on our safeties who were being forced into DB action.

Oh well now starts the offseason. I'm not really that bummed because I think we outplayed ourselves the later half of the season. We just haven't been a great team this season. A good team yes, but good won't get you a Lombardi trophy!

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few days with our head coach. In one scenario he gets an extension and people will shut up about getting rid of him. In another case he'll go to another city and we'll get some draft choices. Regardless I for one am happy this crap is going to be settled. Though I do suppose Whiners will then start harping on some other scapegoat like Garcia.
Subject: NEW COACH


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Rod
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Date Posted: 22:58:52 01/12/03 Sun
Sorry Tim, Mooch is just is a bundle of conservitive garbage IMO. See Izzo, Tubby Smith, and Bill Curry for examples..................BRING BACK SEIFORT(SP?)
Subject: positives


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waleed
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Date Posted: 23:21:23 01/12/03 Sun
Well that was a terrible way to end the season, but there's no way we were supposed to win that game, every bounce went tampa's way. So time to look ahead. I hope the mooch situation works out, but if it doesn't I really hope we get some draft picks out of it. I love garcia and I still think he's a winner but he has at best two solid years left. Any thoughts about drafting rex grossman next year. I think he will be a mid-late first rounder depending on how he does in the combines but I think he will turn out to be the best qb in the class. He makes some bad mistakes sometimes and always had good receivers but I think he would fit the 49ers system perfectly. He seems to have a great feel for whats going on and makes great instinctive plays a lot and really reminds me of brett favre, I think after a year or so on the bench he will be an excellent qb in the nfl, I hope we look at him. We must get a gamebreaking corner or wide receiver either through the draft or free agency. If we do inheret some draft picks how about trading one away for a solid veteran who can help immediately. Another available corner who everyone seems to think is done is aenieas williams, I would have a hard time believing he has nothing left, he killed us a couple of times recently.
Subject: Waleed


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Rod
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Date Posted: 23:42:57 01/12/03 Sun
Woodson was dead when we had him............now look! I do not think Williams even deserves one look.......Grosman however????????? I don't know, I would love to have a more mobile guy than Gros. Although I love it when the 9ers get SEC players...Later
Subject: 9ers


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Bryan - Admin
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Date Posted: 23:57:51 01/12/03 Sun

Sorry about the Allen infultration, deleted his posts and banned his new IP.

I have a lot of thinking to do.. I'll be back sometime tommorow or tuesday I presume.

Subject: the big PD


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Rod
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Date Posted: 01:33:48 01/13/03 Mon
Where is Pastor Dave? We missin ya man.
Subject: Coaches


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geoffrey
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Date Posted: 02:06:34 01/13/03 Mon
I say fire the offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator. Keep Mooch because he's a very good coach that hasn't won a Super Bowl yet which would make him a great one. Our players are very young and still learning but I would love them to be coach by an experienced offensive coordinator and an experienced defensive coordinator. Bring Marty Morhinweg back and hire a new defensive coordinator that would utilize the talent on our team. If the front management bring a new head coach it better be no other than Holmgren. There is no other coaches out there right now that can take this team to the Super Bowl. Either stick with Mooch or lure Holmgren out of Seattle...peace...GO 49ERS...
Subject: RE: FIRE the Coach, O-Line, D-Line, QB, DB's anyone Left?


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Oregon9erFan
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Date Posted: 02:10:03 01/13/03 Mon
I understand that Rice, Sapp and Co. were carving up the O-Line like a cheap Christmas Turkey and Garcia's neck was spinning around like a nuclear powered top. The problems are much deeper than the 10-7 season showed. For starters, the owners are just inept as owners with NO football Savvy. I just hope we don't head into a Joe Thomas era. If these owners keep Mooch the team will just slide further. I realize that with the salary cap issue we were forced to suck it up but really, apart from Peterson, and maybe our nominally successful 7th round tight end Johnson, who else has distinguished themselves in the last couple of drafts? There has to be a flaw with the drafting.

Hence, managements desire to draft by character instead of talent. It has been this way since the '86 draft and with the exception of BY, who's still around? (Stubby doesn't count since he left and came back). Remember Druckenmuller?
No, management has let down the franchise with their approch to drafting.

The team has NO Leadership, NO Direction, and worst of all, NO Desire. We will need a new direction, a no nonsense approach to the personnel. What this team needs is to throw out the wine and cheese mentality and bring in a lunch bucket and jackhammer-take-no-prisoners! approach.

First, we will need to pass out a bunch of pink slips. Sorry Garcia, your just a $10 chip on a $25 dollar table. You can get to the table but you will never be able to cover bet. After that, bring in the talent that will be able to cut through the league like a rabid chainsaw. We have got to do something. Everyone will have to grab a mirror and ask themselves...Am I needed?
Subject: Mariucci's final game with the 49ers?


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Pastor Dave
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Date Posted: 05:33:05 01/13/03 Mon
Rod, thanks for missing me! I am still trying to digest what happened.

Reasons to fire Mariucci -- the offense did not seem prepared to play to their ability at the beginning of the game. After that great opening interception, what was with those first three plays -- they seemed like they were the usual scripted 19 plays. After your defense makes a stand like that, the offense needs to make a statement. And they did -- the statement was that they were not ready for the Buccaneers. And down by so much right before half time after a great run by Hearst to the 40, why oh why would Mariucci pack it in and not try to at least get a field goal? What did they have to lose? My impression was that the team did not believe they belonged on the field with Tampa Bay -- that's coaching.

Reasons to keep Mariucci -- The Bucaneers are a very good team, and even if the 49ers had played well, they probably would have lost. The injury to Plummer (along with Webster sidelined) meant the team was playing without BOTH their starting CBs. You can't blame the coach for that. There were a number of flukey plays in the first half that all seemed to go the way of the Bucaneers. And the 49ers had a lot of key penalties which were, I think, a result of trying too hard, which happens with younger players.

Reasons to fire Garcia -- he seems to want to checkdown and/or break out of the pocket a little too early. It seems to me until it no longer matters, he tends to be too safe with his passes. When he is under pressure running out of the pocket, often he mis-throws. I mean even on 4th down he threw it out of the endzone!!!

Reasons to keep Garcia -- The last 20 minutes of last week's game and other previous performances like that. He certainly is capable of doing the job. The only question is his consistency and his decision making process. I really wonder if the 49ers built an offense around Garcia, would he be that much more efficient. It is obvious that there are times that Garcia doesn't seem inspired by the play-calling. Whose fault is that? Marucci for insisting on the game plan? Knapp for lack of creativity? Garcia for being bull-headed? Walsh for inventing an offense which may not utilize all of Garcia's skills?

The one thing that bothers me the most is how is it possible for a 49er offense to only score 6 points! There is something terribly wrong. After a while the 49ers were moving the ball well, but could not punch it in the red zone. This has happened many games this year.

What should the 49ers do? There are some needs on the team -- DL, WR, OL, DB -- that need to be filled. But I wonder which way the 49ers should go -- Garcia and Owens' wide open offense way or Mariucci's more methodical balanced way. Could the coaches adjust the game plan to include more of the wide open style? And if they do, could Garcia force himself to play that way for a whole game, or will he continue to play it safe until the team falls behind?

Do you think York, Donahue and Walsh know the answers to these questions?
Subject: Thoughts


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Forty
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Date Posted: 09:51:00 01/13/03 Mon
Well here we go into the boring time of year until it is draft time.

Thoughts on Mooch: I thought they threw in the towell before half when they decided to run out the clock. What were they thinking? I dont care what they say there was no excuse for that. I here Mooch and T.O. had words in the locker room. Well if it is left up to Walsh and Donahue I think Mooch is gone. We will see how much the Yorks like Mooch. I find it hard to believe that any team woul offer compensation to the niners knowing that if he is not signed to a contract extension there is no way he is here next year. I believe the niners plans were screwed up when Holgrem decided to stay in Seattle even though he lost the G.M. title. I really believe that the niners were going to bring him in if he was interested. The whole Denny Greene thing is up in the air. I believe that they will talk to Green and try to keep it private to see if he has any interest in coming to the niners. I believe he does especially since he took his name out of the running for the Jags.

Draft: Well I think we definately need some help on the D-Line. We need a stud pass rusher. I would like to see the niners get Will Smith from the Bucs if he comes out. He is a stud pass rusher but I dont know if he would drop that far. Next we need an awesome corner, wheather a free-agent or through the draft. I think we our O.K. at safety and O. line right now. We alsow need another WR. I would of liked to seen Cedrik Wilson a little more. I dont think the niners draft a QB. even though I think they believe that Garcia is not the future of this team. I think they see how Cade McNown does coming back from this surgery.

Bring back Ray Rhodes. Lets get some of these old niner coaches back so we can get back to real niner football.
Subject: Game


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Julie B.
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Date Posted: 10:12:03 01/13/03 Mon
Bryan - Don't worry!!! Take your time! We know what you're feeling and appreciate your work here!
Subject: 9er4life


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TIM
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Date Posted: 11:41:11 01/13/03 Mon
9er4life: I am the TIM(all caps) who has never warmed up to Mooch's football "skills" over the years(although I really do think he is a nice guy and wish him well(somewhere else) as opposed to Tim(only the T in caps) who actually thinks Mooch can coach! You were confused because we are both named Tim .We are actually two different people and not,as you thought,one person with a split personality. Although anyone who actually thinks that Mooch is a good coach may have mental problems I don't believe Tim is bipolar. Just mistaken!Unfortunantly Tim may be right about one thing,the Niners may actually give Mooch a new contract.I fear they will but I hope not! TIM
Subject: Cooley


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Brian
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Date Posted: 12:47:50 01/13/03 Mon
I like Mooch,good guy and all,,IMO not a good Headcoach though,,time to make the move,,,,and I'd be happy if we could get 1/2 of what the Buc's gave up to get Gruden.

Lions or Jags may be intrested,,

with a combo of free agency and draft,we can improve quite a bit
#1 Top notch DL (Bu bye Moran,Flannigan,Okeafor and others)
#2 Top notch CB
#3 Future OT
#4 Future QB ( Like Boller from Cal myself)
#5 Two WR's (Bu Bye Stokes and Wilson)
#6 Big TE ( team needs two capable TE's,Bu bye Swift)

should be intresting offseason to say the least :)
Subject: First time poster


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Dave Tik
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Date Posted: 13:00:02 01/13/03 Mon
Well I am recently new to this forum, I've been reading some of your posts, I don't believe I can always keep up with all the posts (I think that is why I have never posted in the past). Here's my take on the Niners. I think that Marriucci is a good coach, I don't think he is a great coach. I like his personality. I really don't know how much input he has as to the direction of the offense, but it seems he has quite a bit. The only way I can see the Niners moving forward is two scenarios:

1) Let Mariucci go, I trust Bill Walsh and Donahue to bring in a new coaching staff that will reunite the Bill Walsh Offense.

2) Keep Mariucci but insist that he let go of his OC and DC. Then, bring someone in to coach the defense that has bite to him, aggressive style like Ray Rhodes. On Offense, the coordinator would have to have a good grasp on working with the talent they have and push the Bill Walsh Offense, use more receivers and less side ways passing.

Players thoughts: I read anyone recently talking about Garrison Hearst. I like him, he does do an excellent job at picking up the blitz and he is a good rusher. However, according to Bill Walsh's book, when you have a stud player up and coming and needs opportunities to grow let the veteran go (i.e., TO and letting JR go). In this case, I think Kevin Barlow will be a great runner for the Niners and I would like to see GH traded to a team for another strong pass rusher to complement Andre Carter.

On Garcia, I had lost respect for him until last week when I realized that the coaching is not properly utilizing his talents. I think Garcia can take us to the promise Land, but he needs to be coached to see the whole field better, and be allowed to get into a groove.

As for the defense, except for the DL, I am really excited to see what the Niners have. This would include Rumph. With a year under his belt, I believe that he can eventually take over webster's spot (just my opinion).

And lastly, we need to find a good punt and kick returner, it would also be good to find a strong kicking leg as well. I'm sorry for the long post, I hope I don't get to crucified my first post.
Subject: list of next years oponents


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TIM
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Date Posted: 13:22:12 01/13/03 Mon
Rams,Seahawks, and Cardinals twice each
at home - Browns,Steelers,Bucs,Bears,Lions.
away - Bengals,Packers,Eagles,Vikings,Ravens.

dates will be set after the SB.

What do you all think? It looks like AT LEAST 9 wins.A chance to get a little revenge and see if we have improved when we face Tampa,Green Bay and the Eagles again next year. TIM
Subject: Mariucci


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spatton
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Date Posted: 14:18:06 01/13/03 Mon
"BUMMER" Sorry the head man is going to fire you because you can't control your team. I think you made friends with your team instead of being a coach? Head COACH or friend?
You got the draw the line somewhere? At least the Giants would have shown up!!!LOL
Subject: Keep the Faith


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NinerFaithful
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Date Posted: 15:03:55 01/13/03 Mon
At the beginning of the year, did any of you think the 49ers would win the Lombardi trophy this year? I of course always had hope that we would, but that was my heart, my head told me "hopefully we can build of last year's 12-4 finish and compete for the NFC West crown this year and make it to the playoffs and win one game." Well we won the NFC West, but were two games off last year's pace. The offense and defense both tailed off from last year, but we were still one of the top teams in the NFL!!! I think next year we have to step forward, both our offense and defense need to improve. The 49ers are young and still rising. Hopefully next year we can learn from this year and know that you have to get the bye week to advance (especially in the NFC). Those should be this team's goals for next year. Improve in all areas, and that includes special teams. Everything that could go wrong yesterday did. It's not a coincidence that the NFL's final four can all play good defense (Titans are cleary the weakest of the four teams left). That's what is frustrating to me with the fans on this forum. A lot of the posters here would like to see us draft for offense next year, while it is clear to me we are still severely lacking playmakers on the defensive side of the ball. Did we even return a fumble or interception for a touchdown this year? I don't remember it, if we did...Yes, we do need another receiver and help on the OL, I would like to see Barlow be our starting back next year. I think in the draft we have to take the best available player who fits one of our many needs. Maybe alternate between offense and defense in each round. We have IMO good frontline players, it's when the starters get hurt that we get into trouble because we lack depth. I don't know who said it the other night during the Philly game, the Eagles can afford to lose a starter here or there because their backups are not much of a dropoff from their frontline players. All in all it was a good year for the 49ers but the consistency from week to week needs to be there. My thoughts on Mooch are that he is a good coach but will never be great because he never goes for the jugular. Tell me what other coach gets embarrassed in the preseason (Redskins) and then when he has a chance to
run-up the score a bit in the regular season he refuses...(What a great guy!) We don't need a great guy for a coach, we need a Rutless, take no prisoners, tough SOB that will go for the throat after the defense makes a great play to start the game!!! (see yesterday 1st quarter Rusty Johnson gives us a gift on their side of the field and we go 3 and out) We WILL be BACK, hopefully the Jaguars are dumb enough to cough up a couple of draft picks and some money to hire Mooch away from us. He might be a great guy and all that, I just don't see him taking enough advantage of our offense to win it all. (See no-huddle, Giants game) Yes you do need balance and all that, but the top teams pad their rushing stats because they get the lead to begin with. That has been my contention this year, pass to open up the run, not vice-versa. Here comes the line all losers always say, "There's always next year!"

Always Faithful!!!
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