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Date Posted: 12:46:45 04/07/04 Wed
Author: mvd
Subject: Murder; war and capital punishment
In reply to: Omega 's message, "Re: Stu - links on depleted uranium" on 05:17:23 04/07/04 Wed

This reminds me of the 8th grade. My teacher was explaining the sin of murder, then went on to outline the exceptions; killing in war and killing as a punishment. From that day forward, I was intrigued by the notion that mankind could make a universal statement, then qualify it with excpetions.

It is a well known fact that soldiers in battle are less likely to be psychologically disturbed by their killing if they believe that they are acting justly and rightly, that is, if they believe that the deaths serve a higher purpose.

Naturally, it is up to the mother culture to provide these soldiers with the proper moral foundation that will allow them to kill without remorse.

What I find most fascinating is that we are able to give two identical actions two completely opposite meanings. If we kill a man in war, this is somehow very different than killing a man in a bar fight, though the action, minus intent and moral foundation, is identical--- killing a man.

What is perhaps more interesting to discuss, however, is where do these societal conventions come from? They are obviously imagined and man-made. Therefore they must have some basis. Any thoughts?

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Replies:

Survival -- Adilbrand, 17:31:11 04/07/04 Wed
- Agreement -- mvd, 20:06:09 04/07/04 Wed
  - Re: Agreement -- stu, 00:13:04 04/09/04 Fri
- Re: Survival -- stu, 23:59:19 04/08/04 Thu
  - In reaction to Stu: some broad thoughts, organized poorly for they are off of the top of my head. -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 17:17:24 04/10/04 Sat
    - Yikes -- mvd, 21:49:45 04/10/04 Sat
      - Re: Yikes -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 01:15:43 04/12/04 Mon
        Re: Yikes -- stu, 04:52:41 04/12/04 Mon
        journalists -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 02:41:39 04/13/04 Tue
        LOL -- mvd, 15:25:03 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- Mt. Healthy Mountaineer, 21:49:13 04/16/04 Fri
        Amazing -- mvd, 08:48:24 04/17/04 Sat
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- stu, 15:32:19 04/17/04 Sat
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- stu, 15:32:35 04/17/04 Sat
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 23:33:46 04/19/04 Mon
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- stu, 01:39:18 04/20/04 Tue
        Re: LOL & Imagine as a mild communist document -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 21:25:46 04/22/04 Thu
        Re: LOL -- Adilbrand, 23:00:47 04/22/04 Thu
        Re: LOL -- mvd, 09:16:18 04/23/04 Fri
        Remeber -- stu, 17:42:29 04/24/04 Sat
        Remeber -- stu, 17:42:47 04/24/04 Sat
        reality -- stu, 16:32:12 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: Yikes -- mvd, 09:20:40 04/12/04 Mon
    - off the top of my head -- stu, 23:26:02 04/10/04 Sat
      - Re: off the top of my head -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 01:36:02 04/12/04 Mon
        Re: off the top of my head -- stu, 04:36:55 04/12/04 Mon
        culture -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 02:23:08 04/13/04 Tue
        Despite this -- mvd, 09:28:45 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: Despite this -- stu, 16:37:47 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: Despite this -- stu, 16:38:24 04/13/04 Tue
        Despite this -- Omega, 19:46:16 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: culture -- stu, 16:51:08 04/13/04 Tue
        Re: definitions -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 23:10:39 04/16/04 Fri
        Re: definitions -- stu, 15:39:04 04/17/04 Sat
        Re: definitions -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 00:13:17 04/20/04 Tue
        Re: definitions -- stu, 01:40:33 04/20/04 Tue
        Re: definitions -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 21:29:28 04/22/04 Thu
        Re: culture -- stu, 01:38:14 04/15/04 Thu
        Re: culture -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 23:13:02 04/16/04 Fri
        Re: culture -- stu, 05:32:42 04/17/04 Sat
        Re: culture -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 23:44:38 04/19/04 Mon
        Re: culture -- stu, 01:33:44 04/20/04 Tue
        Re: culture and Black assimilation & world gov't. -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 01:47:58 04/24/04 Sat
        Does assimilation to a certain culture make you unique? -- stu, 17:53:24 04/24/04 Sat
        Re: Does assimilation to a certain culture make you unique? (NT) -- stu, 17:53:55 04/24/04 Sat
        Re: culture and Black assimilation & world gov't. -- mvd, 22:12:44 04/24/04 Sat
        American Culture -- mvd, 09:27:25 04/20/04 Tue
        Re: American Culture -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 02:06:21 04/24/04 Sat
        Re: American Culture -- mvd, 19:23:04 04/24/04 Sat
        Re: American Culture -- mt. healthy mountaineer, 23:09:29 04/27/04 Tue