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Subject: SPIDER MAN VS BAT MAN


Author:
SPIDEY
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Date Posted: 08:18:00 07/21/02 Sun
SUPER MAN IS INVINCIBLE. OF COURSE HE'D WIN. A INTRESTING FIGHT WOULD BE SPIDERMAN VS BATMAN. BATMAN IS A RICH BOY WITH LOADS OF TOYS. THATS ALL. SPIDERMAN IS THE ULTIMAT HERO!!!

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Subject: superman vs. batman


Author:
reh
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Date Posted: 21:10:09 12/07/04 Tue
Batman is more of an appealing hero to younger audiences since he is more mysterious and dark, as he is called 'The Dark Knight'. I must admit, that Batman does seem more exciting to read about, since he has much of a dark past. He is introverted and is not the 'im a good citizen and im going to save the world' type hero. He is a hero who is on the verge of revenge... he is scarier than most hero's and his character is based on.. well.. bats. Bats are seen as a dark, scary creatures.
But to fight against superman, I'm not sure that batman would win. Superman is gifted with the coolest powers- How about batman? Not a chance... but batman is still cool.
Subject: batman vs green goblin ho weld win


Author:
chris white
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Date Posted: 23:31:16 12/05/04 Sun
green goblin can he deffet batman. yes he can deffted the green goblin spider man team up with twice with a few marvel and dc. but did he team up with the man in red tice.batman and spider man teams up to take down the king pin.
Subject: The Joker vs Mr. Mxyzptlk vs The Mask vs Clown vs


Author:
LZR
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Date Posted: 12:35:28 11/30/04 Tue
The Joker vs Mr. Mxyzptlk vs The Mask vs Clown vs
>Beetlejuice vs Pennywise
Subject: Goku & Spider-Man are the Best based on facts


Author:
S.SJ 4 Spider-Man
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Date Posted: 11:36:40 11/08/04 Mon
Superman is my favorite because He flies around and saves people. Batman inspires me to train my body to perfection and learn martial art. Superman is better than Batman; Batman can't save & protect as many people as Superman can. That's what matters. If DC Comics of Batman were truly realistic, Batman would have either given up being a hero or died at an early age because of super-villains and evil human people- He isn't super-human & doesn't have enough endurance. Spider-Man is better than both of them because He is not dull compared to Superman when it comes to powers and abilities and He could beat Batman in a fight probably if Bats did't have any weapons/gadgets, because of His spider-strength, speed, spider-sense, reflexes, agility, & enhanced martial arts abilities. With Spider-Man's powers, I would never want a challenge to my power; having his abilities would be so fun & cool. Being Him wouldn't be so simple & easy like Superman. Web-slingling is very original compared to Batman & not just simple like flying. Batman is over-rated; I wouldn't have any PRIDE in his human abilities. Goku is better than both Superman & Batman. He's like them, Ryu from Street Fighter, a True Jedi master, & Neo from The Matrix rolled into one. Ryu and Neo are lesser-powered knockoffs of Goku; Dragonball was created before Street-Figher & Dragonball Z was created before The Matrix trilogy. Goku IS what Superman should be. When Goku trains & heals He can surpass every false deity from any comicbook universe. He can teleport anywhere, shoot out & control energy more than Ryu. He fights at lightning speed with martial arts compared to Superman; He isn't dull and lazy like him. He can save many more people than Superman can. If Batman had no gadgets/weapons, Him & Goku would be evenly matched. But Goku would beat him due to His inborn alien enhanced love of fighting and maybe even tapping into his spirit-energy. All of this is honestly not to offend anyone, it's the TRUTH.

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Subject: Goku & Spider-Man are the Best based on facts


Author:
S.SJ 4 Spider-Man
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Date Posted: 11:31:51 11/08/04 Mon
Superman is my favorite because He flies around and saves people. Batman inspires me to train my body to perfection and learn martial art. Superman is better than Batman; Batman can't save & protect as many people as Superman can. That's what matters. If DC Comics of Batman were truly realistic, Batman would have either given up being a hero or died at an early age because of super-villains and the mafia- He isn't super-human & doesn't have enough endurance. Spider-Man is better than both of them because He is not dull compared to Superman when it comes to powers and abilities and He could beat Batman in a fight probably if Bats did't have any weapons/gadgets, because of His spider-strength, speed, spider-sense, reflexes, agility, & enhanced martial arts abilities. With Spider-Man's powers, I would never want a challenge to my power; having his abilities would be so fun & cool. Being Him wouldn't be so simple & easy like Superman. Web-slingling is very original compared to Batman & not just simple like flying. Batman is over-rated; I wouldn't have any PRIDE in his human abilities. Goku is better than both Superman & Batman. He's like them, Ryu from Street Fighter, a True Jedi master, & Neo from The Matrix rolled into one. Ryu and Neo are lesser-powered knockoffs of Goku; Dragonball was created before Street-Figher & Dragonball Z was created before The Matrix trilogy. Goku IS what Superman should be. When Goku trains & heals He can surpass every false deity from any comicbook universe. He can teleport anywhere, shoot out & control energy more than Ryu. He fights at lightning speed with martial arts compared to Superman; He isn't dull and lazy like him. He can save many more people than Superman can. If Batman had no gadgets/weapons, Him & Goku would be evenly matched. But Goku would beat him due to His inborn alien enhanced love of fighting and maybe even tapping into his spirit-energy. All of this is honestly not to offend anyone, it's the TRUTH.
Subject: They have made a Batman and Superman Movie


Author:
Ben
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Date Posted: 19:32:10 11/04/04 Thu
The movie was made by an artist without complete arthoration from the creators but has got some permission from warner brothers who has some right to them. If you would like to check it out it is at http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2645491&movie=/?fid=2645491&mt=asf&bw=56&refsite=1781 if anyone is interested.
Subject: Superman wins SUPERMAN WINS THA


Author:
BYRITO
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Date Posted: 22:03:29 11/01/04 Mon
I believe superman would.he will kick batman ass.It is true that Batman is smarter then Superman but wake up superman has super powers stronger than Batman craps.Batman will find a weakness for Superman but Superman is very fast,very strong,sees some girls naked oh my bad(x-ray vision),has telescope vision,has heat vision.Even if Batman has guns with that green SHIT Superman could dodge it and just run to Batman and K.O. HIM.PEACE.
Subject: Batman would kick Superman's BUTT!!!


Author:
Emmalee
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Date Posted: 13:11:53 10/26/04 Tue
I happen to know that all y'all who think SUPERMAN would beat BATMAN are way off the cahrts WRONG!!!!! Batman isnt just some workout-alien-wannabe-who's-in-love-with-Lois!!!Batman was bitten by a nuclear bat at the age of seven!!!He has REAL human superstrength. Batman also has enough sense to cover his face, and conceal his identity. Pretty-Boy Superman does his HAIR in the morning...and he puts so much gel on that it doesnt even blow when he flies!!!!!

All I have to say to you now is.......BATMAN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: alright!!!!.....superman rox my sox


Author:
Christina
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Date Posted: 14:30:36 10/25/04 Mon
yes!
superman rules!!!!!!
die batman die!
Subject: AQUAMAN IS THE BEST


Author:
what
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Date Posted: 01:51:55 10/11/04 Mon
MOTHERFUCKING AQUAMAN YOU CUNTS BATMAN AND SUPERMAN ARE HOMOGAY
Subject: live action dirty pair movie


Author:
number one dirty pair
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Date Posted: 05:05:36 09/29/04 Wed
wouldnt it kick ass if somebody made a live action original dirty pair movie and a dirty pair flash movie what do you peaple think and who do you think the cast of the movie would be.
Subject: How Batman will KIll SUperman?


Author:
Chuckelz_bear
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Date Posted: 11:57:14 09/13/04 Mon
OK,
Here's how it's gonna go down, Superman is powerful so you'de THINK he'll win... BUT u forgot that Batman is BATMAN. he's a sly fellow. here's what happening.. and i Know this for a FACT because i wrote the script...
Batman Stalks superman to study his weakness.. He knows that kryptonite can kill Superman.. but the qustion is HOW to use it.. He made Hollow point Kryptonite bullets for his bat gun, and some Kryptonite mace..
But while one of his stake out he sees that Superman has a thing for lois Lane.. SO Batman show's up at Lois' door (as bruce wayn) and suduces Lois and has sex with her with.. now get this everyone (SPOILER INSIDE) a Kryptonite laced condom..... That's right... Batman makes Lois into a Trojan whore.. err I mean horse if you will.. so when Superman come down.. He makes love to Lois but the Kryptonite is still inside her.. and BAM intergaltic STD to kill superman.. and then Batman Jumps in though the window and Bust off a Few Green bullets into his chest..
and that's how it goes down..
Subject: bats vs supes


Author:
saladdin
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Date Posted: 04:29:19 09/07/04 Tue
There is no fair fight between the 2. Unless they were both fighting over Lois Lane, then whatever it takes..with kryptonite or not, I would like to see the BAT win. Why? Because Batman is our human champion we'd like to see defeat anyone with enhanced,mutant,or super capabilities. From Spidey to Cap America, Wolverine,or Superman, I'd still belive Bats can handle 'em. I think authors of the Dark Knight feel the same way. He'll get beat up no doubt, but he'll always prevail. Superman is the most powerful, but Batman is the best. He has to be for mankinds sake.
Subject: batman begins may have superman


Author:
dakobuto
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Date Posted: 03:06:33 08/25/04 Wed
Wow...think of the possibilities..supes checking out gotham for some rumored wildlife who preys on criminals.

http://www.superherohype.com/batman/index.php?id=1911

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Subject: JUSTICE LEAUGE vs X-MEN


Author:
Kaylub
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Date Posted: 15:09:56 06/17/03 Tue
woh would winin FIGHT TO THE DEATH THE JUSTICE LEAUGE OR THE X-MEN. HEQR IS HW IT STANDS
SUPERMAN vs WOLVERINE
BATMAN vs GAMBIT
GREEN LANTERN vs CYCLOPS
WONDERWOMEN vs ROUGE
HAWK GIRL vs STORM
FLASH vs NIGHTCRAWLER
MARSION MANHUNTER vs BEAST
AQUAMAN vs ICEMAN

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Subject: Bats would win!


Author:
batman begins is going to rock!
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Date Posted: 01:18:24 08/24/04 Tue
Superman fights fair, that is in his nature and a central part of his chracter. Batman doesn't, he will do anything short of killing to get the job done, and he is way smarter than Supes. Batman wins. But, to be fair if Superman wanted to he could kick Batman's ass. However Superman would never do that in his right mind...unless of course he was being controlled by some criminal mastermind...dun dun dun.

Whatever, they're best of friends anyway.
Subject: Batman is overrated.


Author:
Francisco
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Date Posted: 12:53:57 07/26/03 Sat
Batman is overrated. He can't defeat Superman Frank Miller knows it and the entire comic comunity and his own fanbase knows it.
Batman is brains but Superman is power and brains.

Batman is the fakest character in comics. They say he is just a man but then they pit him against people he shouldn't last more than a panel. They make stupid other characters to make him look good. It pisses me off when great characters are screwed up just to boost Batman's ego.

Let's face it people Batman is nothing agaisnt the man of steel. This fight won't last a half of nano-second.

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Subject: you all are not getting it...


Author:
Lonely bat
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Date Posted: 21:08:48 08/18/04 Wed
look Batman has kriptonite superman gave it to him for that very reason...
it would be the bat he's smart and your superman is not so super when you put a green glowing rock up an orface...
get my picture.. Batman in 3 frames.
end of debate...
Subject: Batman Vs Superman


Author:
batman_kicksass
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Date Posted: 02:13:29 08/13/04 Fri
BATMAN WOULD KICK SOME MAJOR ASS..BATMAN IS THE BEST AND ALWAYS WILL BE...HE HAS THE CAR,GADGETS,MONEY.ALL BATMAN WOULD HAVE TO DO IS PLAN AHEAD FOR THE FIGHT...ENOUGH SAID.....BESIDES SUPERMAN IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST WIMPS IVE SEEN HIDING BEHIND WONDER WOMEN NEVER AROUND WHEN YOU NEED HIM.
Subject: The Spawn


Author:
s
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Date Posted: 15:17:36 07/18/04 Sun
THE SPAWN IS OMNIPOTENT :-)

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Subject: Dear Nerds


Author:
Max Ryan
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Date Posted: 12:04:07 07/28/04 Wed
I'm just reading these posts and looking at all the energy that some people have put into this debate.

Everyone knows that these are comic book characters right?

The answer to 'Who would win in a fight between Batman and Superman' is, whomever the author chooses to win.

Nerds, get a life. Go outside and try to talk with girls. If you don't already look like the comic book store character from the Simpsons; you soon will.
Subject: Superman Triumphant


Author:
Jimmy Olsen
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Date Posted: 17:50:43 07/26/04 Mon
First of all, I can tell that almost none of you have ever read a fucking comic in your damned lives. If that were true then the shit head that claimed that the Hulk would hand Superman his ass, would know that ain't so. Superman has kicked the green gamma shit out of Hulk everytime they have fought. I am in an excellent position to know, because I own all the books. So, Superman Rules as far as kicking the hulk's gamma irradiated ass goes. Try reading a fucking book for a change, not just looking at the damned pictures.
Subject: Batman vs. Superman


Author:
Max Ryan
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Date Posted: 14:36:57 07/26/04 Mon
Batman vs. Superman. I believe the answer reveals a lot about the person answering.

Batman represents the very best that man can be; he is rich, good looking, intelligent, athletic, resourceful and determined. Batman is what we all strive to be.

Superman is, for all intents and purposes, a god on earth. He is immortal. He is invincible. He rose from the dead. He is the saviour who has been sent by his father to save us from ourselves.

Those who choose Batman believe that they are capable of triumphing over adversity when a challenge presents itself.

Those who choose Superman believe someone else will protect them when need be. Their faith relies on stories of gods who walk on water, rise from the dead and turn water into wine.

Myself? I choose Batman. My faith is that he will find a solution no matter how difficult the challenge. I have the same faith in mankind; and in myself.
Subject: That Guy with cape and mask...


Author:
Fernando
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Date Posted: 02:19:23 07/18/04 Sun
Since I know that I exist there is a hero who stands out all the meaning of the word "hero". He wear no armors, he can´t fly, he can´t throw a car on the air, and he definetely don´t crawl against the walls. He is just a guy who have a great sense of justice, determination, and a lot of skills (that he worked hard to have it) I don´t wanna to take out Superman´s or any other hero credits, but with superpowers even your president´s there in the USA could be an american hero (or a worst supervillain for the world, wathever comes first) Batman will definetely stands forever....
Subject: Green Lantern


Author:
Shelby
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Date Posted: 15:22:40 07/13/04 Tue
Ok, Geen Lantern is one super hero that should be considered. Also, Silver Surfer and Thor. Fabio should play Thor.
Subject: superman vs batman


Author:
kryptonite
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Date Posted: 07:58:30 06/16/04 Wed
i believe in superman, not because he's stronger or because he has any of the powers he does, but simply because he has never truly lost to anyone (in the overall picture), it is true that he is the inferior when it comes to fighting techniques, and that batman has the most deductive mind, but superman if needs be will fight till his last breath to save the things he loves, and no matter how close batman will ever come to beating him perminantly, he never will. in battle he may be superior, but theres not a man alive who can rid the world of superman. i realise i have just used a "what if" situation in saying superman would fight for the things he loves, but thats because there is always an if, there is no way you can say batman is better than superman as superman is logically better, batman may be more deductive, but that is not the same as smart. he is able to figure things out yet superman knows more and this is shown time and again, he can understand concepts quickly and most importantly he can think quicker than anyone else on earth, afterall he needs to be able to think as fast or faster than he can move, which means in a tight spot he can think of a means of escape. the fight will always be hard to decide as they are each good in their own ways, yet if we really look at logic, then we can see that it is impossible for batman to beat supes, not only because he is invincible (sorry to come down to that train of thought) but also because batman just doesnt have the power to beat him, ring or not. if it was a battle using there everyday techniques and abilities then superman would most likely win, but we all know batman is never ill prepared so dont worry about that. to recap on what i have already mentioned superman is unstopable, in a fight, he wouldnt just stop once he was knocked down, but rather heal and try again,and he always will heal, this is easily seen in the dombsday issues, we see how even though superman is in the grave, he is able to be brought back, and of course this begs the question, can superman ever be perminantly killed? if not then batman has almost no chance at all.

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Subject: Batman wins


Author:
Anon User
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Date Posted: 12:42:14 06/19/04 Sat
Kryptonite, enough said. Superman's enemies seem to find kryptonite pretty easily. All Batman would have to do is create a trap for Superman and fill a room or something with kryptonite dust and that would be the end of Superman. Batman has virtually unlimited resources. And if Batman wanted to be really nasty he could some how get people afraid of Superman and his powers, ex. get the world against Superman because he has so much uncontested power.
Subject: batman vs superman


Author:
man of tommorow
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Date Posted: 15:39:10 09/13/03 Sat
people batman would not even stand chance to superman, i mean come on superman would take down batman with one punch and not swet. superman is someone who can do everything, and this is also true superman is a hundred times smarter than batman it's just because waner bros happens to like batman more than they like superman.Yes batman has kryptonite, so what would that do superman can just move realy fast and and knock down batman with one punch. I hope all you batman fans no that you are all just being dumb because every single person i have asked say the man of tommorow would win easily without even sweting.inspite all the martial arts batman knows superman can just still blow him far away with his breath. bat fanboys dont forget the man of steel is the strongest super hero in the gallaxy and also is a legend thats why his ontop of the icon list beating batman and spiderman by far.

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Subject: superman is the best heres the rest in order


Author:
kryptonite
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Date Posted: 06:54:08 06/16/04 Wed
Superman is the best of all super heroes, but in terms of greatest skill, there can be only one, and that is batman! He needs skill to beat his villains as he has no powers of his own, and also he does have the best, (or should i say worst?) badguy of all, the joker, now he is cool (and insane). as bruce wayne he has the smarts, the suave coolness of the insanely rich, and the intelect, yet he's still unafraid to get his hands dirty as batman he has the great fighting ability the gadgets and that car. he is the coolest of all heroes, (though not the greatest).
Subject: superman wins all the time


Author:
superboy
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Date Posted: 02:17:18 04/21/04 Wed
superman would win because he has an endless power capability by the yellow sun and because he is kryptonian
he is very smart just look at what his people have created.

superman is invulnerable and has fought many and has died and came back. doomsday killed superman and superman has came back and kicked the fuck out of doomsday. and from that superboy was made and batman would not stand a chance because superboy does not have and weakness because he is a clone and does not have the weakness to kryptonite

so if superman was getting hurt by kryptonite from batman
superboy would fly in and get ride of the kryptonite and superman and superboy would kick the shit out of batman
Subject: Batman all the way


Author:
Lurking in the Shadows...
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Date Posted: 00:17:01 12/22/03 Mon
We all already know that batman would win. He is rich, and can afford anything...even kryptonite....Imagine him getting a shiny Kryptonite costume...ouuuch...would suck for superman. Or, well Imagine him getting gloves with kryptonite nuckles.

Back the dark hero people...he is just a everyday person...who risks his life saving people...on the other hand Superman is a little wimp who only goes out cuz he know no weapon can stop him...well no weapon xcept batman. :D

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Subject: superman 'the man of steel'


Author:
clark kent
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Date Posted: 10:40:48 04/25/03 Fri
Superman would easly kane 'the dark shitty knight(batman). Superman has super human powers, laser sighting vision what comes out of his eyes, he is inmortal...
All superman has to do is pick up batmans shit ass car and through it up into outer space! All bat man can do to defeat superman is go up to space and travel millions of miles and get krypton. SUPERMAN WOULD HAVE A EFFORTLESS FIGHT! ALL BATMAN FANS ARE GEEKS/DICKHEADS/DOGFUCKERS...

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Subject: arky


Author:
arky
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Date Posted: 23:52:13 01/23/04 Fri
AQUAMAN PWNS ALL!!!!
ALL HE HAS TO DO IS FIND A PERVERTED OCTOPUS AND SUPERMAN BATMAN HULK SPAWN IS ALL SCREWED BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY AND FIGURATIVELLY CANT STAND A CHANCE

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Subject: batman vs superman


Author:
bat man rulz
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Date Posted: 20:33:39 02/29/04 Sun
all u people who think superman would win are fucking stupid not only can batman win but if batman had time to plan out every fight he's ever been in then he would win every fight......batman and superman have fought numerous times and batman has won the mojority of the fights for example in "hush" batman had a kyrptonite ring and whiped the shit out of superman and also in superman "the red sun" batman shown a ray of red sun light on superman and also had the time to kick wonder womens ass in the process and in JLA "tower of babel" batman was kicked out of the jla and batman had no choice but to beat the living shit out of the entire JLA. the bottom line is that batman is the greatest hero that ever lived and could kill any super hero there ever was. And to add another point in the JLA episodes wen the liquid metal monster was taking all the JLA's powers and using it against them batman was the only one that had no powers to take and also was the only one that was able to actually hurt the monster and make him run scared shitless. AND NO OUT THERE CAN CHALLENGE MY THOERY CAUSE I HAVE ALL THE FACTS.

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Subject: Logical reasons why Batman would win


Author:
k strahm
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Date Posted: 00:14:57 03/26/03 Wed
Some observations for de Guru, Superfan, kong, any other seriously debating Superman fans who don’t say crap like “Batman is a fag” and of course, for mouf and those who believe Batman to be the victor.

A. Most people arguing against Batman on this list seem to have the idea that his abilities end at his utility belt and the Batmobile. This leads me to believe that you are therefore arguing about the movie version of Batman. If this is the case, you are correct. The Batman from any of the live-action movies is a sub-hero and a killer. Please take him.

B. The comic book version of the Dark Knight relies on one thing, his wits. True, he does carry some gadgets in his belt and true, he does have a fancy car (though he uses it only to drive around since the man can’t fly. IT DOES NOT GO UP WALLS). But he has what has been hailed by even Superman as the most deductive and strategic mind in the DC Universe. So, for all of you on the side of Superman who say Batman isn’t as smart as Superman, you obviously know nothing about these characters in their purest form and anything else you argue will hold no baring.

C. I will admit, if Batman and Superman were locked in a twelve-foot steel room there is NO WAY Batman would emerge the victor. Even if he had the aid of the Kryptonite ring (WHICH CANNOT BE DESTROYED BY HEAT-VISION, IF THAT WERE THE CASE WHY WOULD IT STILL BE AROUND???). But to place these heroes in such a situation you are robbing Batman on one of his “powers” so to say. That power is the ability to stay so far ahead of his enemies or potential enemies that he will NEVER be placed in a situation to which there is no escape. You might just as well rob Superman of his super strength. How do you think that match would go between Batman and a Superman who can feel every blow the Dark Knight delivers, a Superman whose bones can be broken and who has relied so heavily for years on his strength that he doesn’t know how to build a strategy against the master fighter before him. Sounds pretty preposterous doesn’t it? Makes you want to say “That’s stupid, he’s invincible.” Well that’s how we Batman fans feel when you say Superman “could drop a house on Batman” or “blow him away with a fart.” Batman would never face off directly against the Man of Steel with no back-up plan. He would never allow himself to be in the position to get hit with a house or farted upon.

D. Those of you who say Batman only wins in the comics because they’re “Batman” comics, you don’t really know what you’re talking about. True, the greatest beating Supes has taken from Batman was in Miller’s Dark Knight books but Batman has also won in Action Comics (THE FIRST SUPERMAN SERIES), Brave and the Bold, Justice League of America and Ra’s al Ghul used Batman’s devices to defeat Superman and the rest of the Justice League in JLA.

E. For those of you who say Superman would go crazy if pushed too far and kick Batman’s ass, I agree, an angry, MERCILESS Superman would have a much easier time defeating the Dark Knight. But what could Batman possibly do to piss of Supes so much as to disregard the safety and lives of any human beings? Kill Lois? Batman doesn’t kill. So, to say a murderous Superman could beat Batman is changing the character’s personality. If Superman were merciless, he wouldn’t REALLY be Superman, would he? Batman knows all about Clark’s limits and how far he is willing to go. It’s how he survived Superman’s attack in last month’s Batman #112 (after punching Big Blue around for a couple of pages).

F. So, if you alter the form of the characters (which is stupid in this debate, you might as well make up your own damn characters) Superman can win. He can also win if you make up a “What if” situation. But, in a “what if” situation Plastic-man can win too! If you stick to the core of the characters (in their comic book forms) Batman will always win as he has for the last 60 years. I think Superman said it best when he called Batman “The most dangerous man alive.”
That was just before Batman saved the Man of Steel’s ass from some white Martians.

Please debate any of these points with logical responces. If you're an idiot who can only say "that's stupid" or "Superman can fly, Batman's just a gay-man!" then I feel sorry for you.

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Subject: Two words: KRYPTONITE BAT-A-RANG!


Author:
Brian Armstrong
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Date Posted: 11:30:03 04/01/04 Thu
See the subject-line again; Batman is a scientific genius who knows Superman's weaknesses-- including his having more guts than brains, and being over-confident in his super-powers.

Scenario: Superman seeks out Batman; Batman isn't stupid enough to challenge Superman to a fistfight, since it doesn't take a genius to realize that Batman's skills as the world's greatest stealth-commando, are no match for Superman's super-powers who can see through almost anything; so he lures Superman into his bat-cave where he's pretending to hide-- Superman sees Batman right through the walls, and then Batman activates his krypton-ray chamber, which blocks the rays of the Sun and makes Superman into an ordinary mortal.

Then suddely Superman isn't so super, and it's

POW!
BAM!
WHAP!

Rest in Peace, super-dork!

Like Lex Luthor said: mind over muscle.
Subject: batman


Author:
bat
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Date Posted: 11:57:33 03/02/04 Tue
the people arguing against batman have probably never read any comics so you dont know anything about them except from the movies.
superman is NOT indestructable as so many of you think. and anyway superman is a helluva lot more gay than batman. hes just a gay alienboy who sucks people off as long as they have a badge or a US flag.

superman is over-rated
batman is under-rated
his intelligence, technology, ability to plan all of his fights accurately are enough to beat any comic hero no matter what powers they have.

people who say superman would win obviosly have never read any batman OR superman comics. for a start you say superman is INTELLIGENT. he isnt at all. he's only a news reporter, batman is a scientist. the science of how to kill every comic hero

p.s. you cant diss the joker, who is a far deadlier enemy than lex luthor
Subject: batman would win


Author:
raymond
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Date Posted: 11:23:59 03/02/04 Tue
who would win in a face to face battle between batman and superman?....... superman would easily without sweat.
but in a battle of the wits in the comic world thats a different question, simply because batman isn't stupid enough to fight superman face to face without weapons, you see its not just about power but also intelligence and being prepared.
in "THE DARK KNIGHT FALLS" batman arranges to meet superman.
but before hand
-he nukes the alien boy and he is weakened(he needs the sun to regain power).
-he then fires rockets (which he cant dodge because hes too slow after being nuked),
-uses sonic gun which deafens him (and gives him a nosebleed if thats important),
-electrocutes him with the whole city's power suply,
-squirts acid in his eyes to blind and distract him.
then applies the ultimate
-KRYPTONITE which drains his power (superman is a soft, powerless alien boy when he comes close to kryptonite), before he beats him down and gets the chance to choke him while he's down (but decides not to kill the alien boy, maybe out of honour)

if you place superman and batman in a boxing ring together, no weapons then superman would obviosly win, but on batman's homeground with his technology, superman doesnt stand a chance.

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Subject: The plot


Author:
Sam
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Date Posted: 15:36:55 03/01/04 Mon
I'm not not super fans of either one, although both superman and batman are cool characters. I'm thinking, if there has to be a movie about Batman vs. Superman, there has to be a plot of it, because we can't just let the two heroes fight till death. That movie will end in a minute or so? I figured something out that may be ok as a plot. But I'm not a great story writer though.

The story will start having Batman and Superman both helping the world to beat the evil. Superman is the Positive side of heroes, while Batman is kinda in the dark side, but he's still the good ones, just dark (which seem like evil, but not). Batman knows all kinds of martial arts, but still got hurt in a fight with a villain, luckily the villain got hurt by Superman too. While Batman was recovering, he was also in deep thoughts what he has done wrong, and how he can kill the villain. At the same time something inside him is seemingly "talking " to Batman, (like delusions, hearing voices). These voices somehow managed to make Batman explore his dark side more. He goes deeper and deeper, until SUperman found Batman changing from the good side to the bad guy. Then they fight. (Then at the end, of course, Batman "wakes up" and fight villain with superman.)
If you have any good suggestions, my email is orange_samuel@yahoo.com
Subject: Bats vs Supes


Author:
J Dub
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Date Posted: 18:26:55 02/23/04 Mon
This is a no brainer. Bats would win. The reason-Superman has too much honor and integrity. Batman would do whatever it takes to win (despite what the morons who put up this site think). Look at the Tower of Babble storyline-Batman had contigiency plans to take out any and all of his fellow JLA'ers-he even synthesized a red kryptonite that put all kinds of a hurt on Big Blue. Not to mention Bats has an ace in the hole with his possesion of the green kryptonite ring. In the end, the Boy Scout just can't play dirty enough to beat the Dark Knight
Subject: proof of gokus speed


Author:
carver9
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Date Posted: 19:21:36 02/10/04 Tue
I have a tape of the regular dragonball series,not dragonball z. And goku states that his speed was measured and the results was the speed of light. Now thats regular dragonball. It aint no telling how fast he moves in dbz. In dragon ball he had just became a teenager and he already moves that fast and had awesome strength and shoot explosive energy balls. He also fell 5000 ft from the air and landed on his head and got right back up like nothing didnt happened so he was pretty much invulnerable. In regular dragon ball I think he was capable enough to take postcrisis supes because he doesnt moves near the speed of light. DC stated that superman moves 2000 mph and that aint close to the speed of light. Superman wont even know what hit him.
Subject: Jesus Christ


Author:
Martin P. Hunt
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Date Posted: 11:57:28 09/04/03 Thu
Superman and Batman may have been all that great if they were real but, JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD has been given all power and authorithy in Heaven , on Earth, and beneath the earth that every knee , and every tougue bow and confess JESUS as KING OF KINGS ,and LORD OF LORDS to the glory of GOD THE FATHER and CREATOR, Amen !!!!!!.

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Subject: Xmen vs Jla


Author:
darius
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Date Posted: 09:17:43 11/19/03 Wed
xmen would win hands down. I think the matchups are wrong. rogue or prof x(mind control) on superman. Anyone would beat batman(no powers) batman matches up better againist dd or capt. green latern does beat cyclops. beast does lose to the martian. WW would get handled by storm. Remember other previous xmen like magneto cable collosus. The xmen have a pretty deep bench and Jla would be in trouble.

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Subject: Simple


Author:
Parlimentarian
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Date Posted: 10:36:22 11/11/03 Tue
It's very simple. If Superman wanted to win, he would.
Despite everyones claim that Kent/Superman is not as smart as Batman (which may be true) he is still a very sharp cookie. Kryptonite? Wear a lead suit.

The idea is Batman would never risk direct confrontation if he could help it. Batman can think as far ahead as he wants, but to execute any plan that involves direct contact with Supes puts him at a very significat disadvantage. Superman can do any number of things in the split second that Batman even _thinks_ about doing _anything_.

I mean when you get right down to it, Superman could spend a lazy evening canvassing every square inch of Gotham with his vision until he found the Batcave and collapse it when Batman was in there. But he wouldn't.

Superman gave Batman the Kryptonite ring to check his power, but I doubt it would make much difference against a truly evil Superman. Supes wants Batman dead and doesn't care about collateral damage. Throw a rock at him. A big rock. Let's say the moon, or at least a decent sized asteroid.


Bottom line.
Bats will most likely achieve his strategic goals when playing against Superman, but in a "fight" he wouldn't stand a chance.

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Subject: Most of you guys are idiots


Author:
Paul
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Date Posted: 00:57:05 09/19/03 Fri
K. Straham put it best. If it was just Superman vs. Batman in a steel cage death room and Superman had become a merciless killer, Superman could end Batman's life in less than a second. Why in each fight between the two Batman comes out on top? It's because he is probably the greatest strategic hero in all of comicdom and also the most clever. Like Straham said, Batman would never be stupid enough to let Superman get him in a situation in which there would be no way out. The best example is in Batman #612 in which Bruce clearly states "..Clark could end my life in a second with his super-speed by pounding my head into the wall, but deep down inside, Clark's essentially a good guy, and deep down...I'm not", or something like that. Superman seeks to preserve life at all cost, and especially when fighting Batman (whom Superman considers his closest ally, along with the most dangerous man alive). Superman gave the Kryptonite Ring to Batman for one sole reason, because he trusts him enough and believes that only Batman (with the skill and intellect he has) can bring him down. Sure, if this was Superman vs. Batman in terms of the movie characters, it's not even close. Superman is an alien with god-like powers, and Batman is basically the perfect physical human specimen. There's really no contest in that area. If Superman and Batman were to face off based on their comic characters, Batman would most likely triumph.

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Subject: Suggestions for actor to play Superman and Batman


Author:
Vinny
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Date Posted: 15:47:32 09/01/02 Sun
Dean Cain is the only one that can pull off being Superman. He just fits the part. In regards to Batman, forget about Michael Keaton and Brad Pitt, I mean do you really think they can pull it off. The movie line was horrible and the actors who played Batman weren't strong enough. That's why it flopped so many times and there was a new Batman every movie with the exception of 1 and 2. My choice would be David Boreanaz. He already proved that he can pull off being an action hero as Angel and definately has the mobility and Character attitude to play Batman. In all, the chemistry between the two would be phenominal. It would be a great movie if the script follows the format of the recent cartoons from the past few years.

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Subject: superman vs spider man vs batman


Author:
pariah
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Date Posted: 00:32:20 12/01/03 Mon
first of all bats is the most experienced of all three in kicking ass superman and spidey have that suckass moral code of not being to hard on the so called hardasses but batman would not mind cracking someones head open to get his point across but all three none of them could hold up to adamanatium claws no fucking way
Subject: superman vs spider man vs batman


Author:
pariah
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Date Posted: 00:31:16 12/01/03 Mon
first of all bats is the most experienced of all three in kicking ass superman and spidey have that suckass moral code of not being to hard on the so called hardasses but batman would not mind cracking someones head open to get his point across but all three none of them could hold up to adamanatium claws no fucking way
Subject: BAD IDEA


Author:
Zach
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Date Posted: 12:46:34 08/03/02 Sat
Spiderman vs. Superman vs. Batman is a horrible idea. let it be spiderman vs. the x-men or something like that. (tho it would still be a rip off of the whole batman vs. superman idea). but you cant put spiderman (a marvel comics character) with 2 dc comics characters. just doesnt work.

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Subject: The Ultimate Dark Hero battle!


Author:
Liam Neeson, Alec Baldwin and Billy Zane
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Date Posted: 04:28:27 11/19/03 Wed
Darkman vs The Shadow vs The Phantom!
Subject: Whos the toughest SOB?


Author:
GE
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Date Posted: 05:49:16 11/18/03 Tue
Batman/Bruce Wayne vs Wolverine/Logan vs The Punisher/Frank Castle vs Hitman/Tommy Mongonhan vs Preacher/Jesse Custer vs The Pilgram vs Roland the Gunslinger.
Subject: The League of Extrodinaty Gentlemen vs X-Men vs The JLA


Author:
LXG
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Date Posted: 05:43:32 11/18/03 Tue
LXG vs JLA vs X-Men
Subject: THE ULTIMATE MAGICIAN'S DUEL


Author:
Merlin
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Date Posted: 07:52:07 07/08/03 Tue
WHO WOULD WIN THE ULTIMATE DARK LORD OF MAGICIANS BATTLE ROYAL?

Evil Mxyzptlk from Alan Moore's classic Superman: Whatever Happened to the man of Tommorrow?
vs
Darkseid from the Superman comics
vs
Thanos from the Silver Surfer comics
vs
Apocalypse from the X-Men comics
vs
Mr. Sinister from the X-Men comics
vs
Skeletor from Masters of the Universe
vs
Mum-Ra from Thundercats
vs
Darth Sidious from Star Wars
vs
Q from Star Trek
vs
Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter
vs
Sauron from The Lord of the Rings
vs
Randall Flagg from the Stephen King books.

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