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Date Posted: 13:38:21 10/27/05 Thu
Author: Sophist
Subject: Re: Addiction and responsibility
In reply to: Sunshine 's message, "Re: Addiction and responsibility" on 13:08:07 10/27/05 Thu

Hey, I'm with you all the way on Xander. But I can't honestly say I'd see him in Willow's role in Wrecked. Plus, of course, the scene at Rack's would have played a little differently....

Addiction is just another example of victimhood where the individual is not really responsible for their actions. There is a large and thriving cult of victimhood in this country where even eating too many twinkies can be the basis for justification for heinous acts (in this case, even a legal defense).

I am glad to say that I don't think many people really believe this.

How did I get cast as the defender of the addiction metaphor?

I didn't mean to make you one. I'm just taking the opportunity for my annual complaints about this part of the story arc in S6.

I think the viewers had to somehow overlook Willows transgressions.

Perhaps, but then you'd have to wonder why the cleansing in Chosen. Considering the amount of discussion on the boards during S7, I doubt the writers really believed people were overlooking the issue.

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Replies:

Speaking of Xander... -- Sophist, 15:30:04 10/27/05 Thu
- Bastard Xander -- manwitch, 09:45:31 10/28/05 Fri
  - Completely agree. -- Sophist, 10:06:24 10/28/05 Fri
  - Re: Bastard Xander -- Sunshine, 11:23:27 10/28/05 Fri
    - The term you are looking for is "whore chasing" -- manwitch, 11:58:24 10/28/05 Fri
      - Re: The term you are looking for is "whore chasing" -- Sunshine, 12:33:35 10/28/05 Fri
        To me, the first question is.... -- Sophist, 13:15:16 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: To me, the first question is.... -- Sunshine, 13:43:27 10/28/05 Fri
        I have rewatched the scene -- Sunshine, 17:25:14 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: I have rewatched the scene -- Sophist, 18:12:38 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: I have rewatched the scene -- Sunshine, 18:47:53 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: I have rewatched the scene -- Sophist, 19:29:01 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: I have rewatched the scene -- Sunshine, 20:38:56 10/28/05 Fri
        I do. (NT) -- Sophist, 21:05:21 10/28/05 Fri
        I'm gonna swallow my tears... -- manwitch, 13:59:07 10/28/05 Fri
        Re: I'm gonna swallow my tears... -- Sunshine, 14:21:23 10/28/05 Fri
      - Riley's choices were also somewhat limited, however -- Finn Mac Cool, 11:42:28 10/31/05 Mon
        Re: Riley's choices were also somewhat limited, however -- Sunshine, 12:32:38 10/31/05 Mon
        Interesting point -- Xander was echoing Spike's advice on love -- Sophist, 12:48:44 10/31/05 Mon
        Re: Interesting point -- Xander was echoing Spike's advice on love -- Finn Mac Cool, 21:22:46 10/31/05 Mon
    - Re: Riley's choices were also somewhat limited, however -- Celebaelin, 12:38:01 10/31/05 Mon
      - Oh, and he was a convenient, low maintainance, relaxing sexual partner (NT) -- Celebaelin, 12:50:33 10/31/05 Mon
      - But consider the context of what Buffy is going through -- manwitch, 14:10:51 10/31/05 Mon
        Stressful times -- Celebaelin, 14:26:49 10/31/05 Mon
        very funny -- manwitch, 13:47:04 11/01/05 Tue
        Re: very funny -- Finn Mac Cool, 17:04:51 11/01/05 Tue
        I think your analogy is too favorable to Riley -- Sophist, 17:55:42 11/01/05 Tue
        Re: I think your analogy is too favorable to Riley -- Finn Mac Cool, 20:45:49 11/01/05 Tue
        Suck jobs -- Celebaelin, 05:15:14 11/02/05 Wed
        Re: Suck jobs -- manwitch, 05:43:39 11/02/05 Wed
        Zed's dead (NT) -- Celebaelin, 06:26:18 11/02/05 Wed
        There is a certain Owenosity about him -- Sophist, 08:30:56 11/02/05 Wed
        Re: There is a certain Owenosity about him -- Finn Mac Cool, 11:31:22 11/02/05 Wed
        Our difference is just too fundamental I guess -- manwitch, 05:25:03 11/02/05 Wed
        Re: Our difference is just too fundamental I guess -- Finn Mac Cool, 11:47:03 11/02/05 Wed
        Re: Our difference is just too fundamental I guess -- Sunshine, 12:06:49 11/02/05 Wed
        Oops, screwed up the italics - was suppoesed to be -- Sunshine, 12:08:49 11/02/05 Wed
        Boy or toy? -- Celebaelin, 06:07:55 11/02/05 Wed
        Buffy is better off without Riley -- manwitch, 06:19:22 11/02/05 Wed
        SG orgy -- Celebaelin, 06:33:42 11/02/05 Wed
        Re: SG orgy -- manwitch, 09:00:40 11/02/05 Wed
        Xander is Buffy? -- Sunshine, 11:11:31 11/02/05 Wed
        I didn't write that (NT) -- Hini Nar, 16:10:22 11/02/05 Wed

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