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Subject: 'Re-visiting Stomping Grounds of the Past'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 19:19:00 04/07/05 Thu

I see that 23 Bty OCA are contemplating holding a Reunion in Lippstadt next year! I understand why to a degree, but have reservations as to what they would hope to find or re-live, as that location like so many others is now defunct as far as the Military are concerned. Reliving your memories of better days of our youth is one thing. Revisiting is totally another! Going back always leads to disappointment in my opinion as perceptions that we have usually turn out to be very far from what we contemplate them to be! The same would be applicable to most locations that we served at in those days of our youth. Apart from the obvious, people have also changed especially their attitudes towards older generations. In them days they wanted us there, nowadays they do not!...Fact not fiction! Time has moved on and we have to be realistic as to the future. Experience counts for nothing anymore. Respect holds no profit either, in todays society unfortunately! One thing they cannot take away from you is your memories or the comradeship that we experienced in them days and revive every time that we meet especially over a drink even after so many years in between!....Don't you think?
Subject: 'Pictures of Lippy'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:34:14 04/05/05 Tue

To those that served at Churchill Bks in Lippstadt regardless when, or come to that whether with 42 or 27 Regiments! I don't know about you but I have particular fond memories of that posting in fact I will say that it was one of the best locations in BAOR or was!... The night-life in that town was something else! Used to have beer-tabs everywhere at all the guesthouses that I frequented in them days and come pay day spent my time going around the various establishments settling up and by the time that I reached the last one I was once again 'skint'! so to speak, so once again the slate was re-established for another month! There were many of the guys doing the same scam in them days. Unlike today, you didn't pay any interest on the Bill! Any de-faulters would find themselves beating the carpet on Orders as all the Guesthouse proprietors had to do was produce the beer mats with your Name, Rank and Number on it to the Pay Master to receive payment that was due, it was as simple as that!...Not many people bucked the system in them days! I used to go out on the Town with only enough money to pay any Taxi-fare in my wallet and a contingency fund of a couple of hundred marks stashed in my shoe to cover for any eventuality that occurred! That was what it was like in those days! You never went down town until after ten o'clock at night as before you did the tour of the establishments within the confines of the Camp before departing for the Bar's and fleshpots of Lippstadt itself! Memorable days that I can remember with affection I would think!.....What say you?
Subject: masterchef


Author:
tony grant
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Date Posted: 11:25:43 04/04/05 Mon

Did anyone watch the masterchef show when they had to cook in a army field kitchen a bit different to what we had to cope with,good old no1 burner,dig a trench place a four or six hole stand in it and place the no1 at either end.some good stuff in the compo boxes ,chicken fricasse,beef casserole,creamed rice,choc bars and tins of sweets.I remember one excercise we where very close to a field of sweetcorn which we raided they where good.Somewhere in the deep recesse of my mind i seem to remember a trip 49 took to a american base to guard the missile silos was it near munsterlarger we where there for four weeks it was very strange cooking with the yanks but i still love choc milk.
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Subject: The 'Jock' Rebel Folk Singers.


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 16:12:48 02/15/05 Tue

I think the title is self explanitory. From Devizes to Fallingbostel and beyond,through tours of N.Ireland,to sitting around camp fires to memorable nights in Battery clubs,these guys reigned supreme in influencing and inspiring many young and susceptible Gun-bunnies in the joys of drinking and singing for the Hell of it!...I refer to Tommy Walker and Billy Hamilton. They should be an inspiration to us all! I remember particularily Tommy's rendition of a song called 'McCatherty'...I still remember it today!....might have been wrote for us! It goes something like...."When I was eighteen years of age.Into the Army I did engage..I left my home with the good intent, for to join the 42nd Regiment"....
Billy's rendition of "The Foggy Dew"is another song that I can relate too. There are numerous others,too many to speak of! Its because of these two marvallous buggers that I have collected so many Rebel and Folk Songs over the years. There are many other guys out there that were influenced,just by listening to these two sing, some sad,some joyest,others dam-right bloody fithy,but always sang with passion. Thats what soldiering was all about,not just about duty,but how you could incorperate business and pleasure that made life much more bearable, over a drink and a song. That's what has made us,the people that we are today. Colourful Characters some may say!....What say you?
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Subject: 'Puff the Magic Dragon'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:45:59 04/03/05 Sun

Live Firing on these 175mm monsters was something that I will never forget. The Yanks were not as crazy as us when it came to 'Live Firing'. They would Load and Lay the bloody Gun and de-bunk off the equipment to what they considered to be a safe distance behind the Gun using the demolition lanyard to Fire the Gun! We on the other hand used to stand our ground on the Gun regardless, as there was no such thing as a safe distance if things went pear-shaped! Miss-fires and flashbacks were the things that we dreaded. I remember that we had this 'Bad Ram' situation and nobody wanted to take the responsibility whether to fire it or what! The AIG or as we used to call him 'The Milkman'came forward and viewed the situation and ordered us to Fire it! When he saw the hesitant looks that we gave one another he stayed on the Gun with us. I've always had the utmost respect for these guys. That was one round I was relieved to be well shot of I can assure you!....The relief on seeing that particular shell depart from the dangerous end of the barrel was tangible to say the least!......
There were other Mishaps that occurred that I remember. One I believe concerned 32 Regt whilst Live Firing, another happened to 18 Bty. I remember that there was an investigation as to the cause and it was found that the shell casings on a particular batch of Ammunition was faulty causing the round to go off prematurily whilst still in the barrel of the Gun!...I remember seeing one of the Guns in question parked up in the REME compound in Fallingbostel. The Gun was aptly named 'Typhoon'. Strange but true! The actual barrel had disintegrated! A very sobering sight which made us realize and consider our own mortality especially working on that equipment in them days!...Don't you think?
Subject: Cam nets and digging!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 19:58:44 04/02/05 Sat

Jim, I too, used to hate bloody camouflage nets. When I left school at fifteen and joined the Junior Bleeders, my Dad brought me a gold signet ring. On one exercise, during a bitter cold winter, the ring cracked. I only found out when, erecting a cam net, the ring became entangled in the scrim and it was pulled off my finger, with the accompanying damage to the said digit. I still wear the ring today (though it's a lot thinner) and it's still broken! though the finger, happily mended well. I have to admit that camouflaging a Saracen was a lot easier than a Gun but, I still cursed the manufacturers for all the little bits that where guaranteed to snag on the net.

Another chore I hated was DIGGING! Be it a gun pit or a slit trench, it seemed as if we had just finished it and we would be off on another move. I never thought for one minute that a slit trench would save us from much harm in time of conflict, until that time, I mentioned before, of the Divisional shoot. When I saw the impact area afterwards and was told that that was a typical bombardment as experienced by troops in the Great War and WW2 and that the majority of troops, if well dug-in, survived! I was a convert. In fact, I spent the majority of my twenty first birthday, sitting in a slit trench, half filled with cold water, persisting down, freezing and half starved (well it felt like I was half starved!) singing to myself, "I'm twenty one today, twenty one today...................".

As I write this post, it's just been announced that the Pope has lost his fight for life. I'm not a religious person but I salute the passing of a very great man. He fought the good fight to the bitter end. Sad.
Subject: 'Dry Firing Blues and Camouflage Boogie'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:31:53 04/02/05 Sat

Contrary to popular belief Practice does not make perfect! It only leads to fatique and monotony. Constantly being moved from Gun position to alternate positions were always a pain to endure. Moving into a 'Hide'and night manoeuvres were always stressful to a certain degree. Always had a little 'nip'so to speak of the Brandy not to get drunk you understand, but to keep you going especially when you were on your chinstrap!...I suppose its like an athlete who reaches a peak then is on the downward slope afterwards. Did you ever wonder why a lot of breakdowns occurred with the equipment as some were genuine and others were not as the majority of the Number One's realised that to continue on beasting the lads would not be benifical to nobody so a fault would develope that would ensue that your crew would have to drop out of the exercise for repairs and maintenance of the vehicle. This would conveniently occur not too far from a Guesthouse usually!..The object would be to go non-tactical for a limited period of time to catch up on much needed sleep and recouperation. Another pain used to be Camouflage netting putting it up and taking it down especially when it was wet and filled with broken twigs and the like, catching on all the equipment causing no end of guys losing the plot and fighting and struggling with these nets. Bloody funny watching these antics and hysterical laughter would reverberate around the position. Squaddie humour is priceless!....Don't you think?
Subject: Hyper-links? Piece of pish!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:05:35 04/01/05 Fri

Sorry to hear about John Gutteridge, I didn't know the fellow personally but any 49'er is sadly missed by all 49'ers. I hope you all tried my bit of cleverness and clicked on the link to the "Lifeguard"? I found it very funny and there are some other short movies on that site worth a look. No need to log in, just click on 'Videos' on the left menu. One in particular to look for is the crazy Frenchman, taking the urine with the Gendarmes. If anyone has trouble finding it? Give me a shout and I'll do a link to it for you.
Subject: Will it work?


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 20:39:27 04/01/05 Fri

click here

Trying out a bit of 'Geekiness' I have learned today. I hope it works as I think it's a bit of a laugh
Subject: old 49ers


Author:
Derek Melia
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Date Posted: 17:02:43 04/01/05 Fri

Terry/Wes,
I have just seen on the 42 site that John Gutteridge is dead is there anyway of checking this out Mick Mortimore posted the message.
Derek.
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Subject: Johnny Gutteridge


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 17:13:11 04/01/05 Fri

Mick off the 42 OCA web-site apparently put an advert in the 'Black Country Bugle' Looking for West Midland Gunners missing from the database. Somebody rang him and gave him the sad news that John had passed away in 2003!........
Some of us that knew him had suspected that John was no longer with us, but it is still a shock when it is confirmed to be true. He is another one of the Characters of our days in Fallingbostel who shall be missed by all who knew him. A good friend and drinking partner he certainly was. I will remember him over a good drink. R.I.P old mate!
Subject: Paddy Phillips


Author:
Mick
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Date Posted: 17:06:51 03/29/05 Tue

Can anyone point me in the direction of Paddy Phillips house please. Paddy was in Training with us in Feb 1964 at Oswestry.
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Subject: PHOTOS etc


Author:
Jim McDougall
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Date Posted: 10:25:07 03/31/05 Thu

PHOTOS & OTHER MEMORABILIA


As the official Photo Custodian of the 42 Regt RA Old Comrades Association, I am always on the lookout for new material, not only photographs, but other relevant printed matter such as documents, papers, forms, certificates, programmes, menus, whatever.

The quality doesn’t matter as I can usually enhance things no matter what state they’re in. Material from the period is particularly desirable, but more recent stuff is also welcome.

I’d prefer sight of the originals, but email attachments are perfectly acceptable. If sending originals I would recommend Recorded Delivery. I promise to take great care of everything, and scan and return without delay – usually next day.

Whatever is sent, please provide as much information as possible – who? where? when? occasion? whatever, either written on the back or on a separate sheet of paper.

I maintain a running album of 42 Regt photos on Webshots, where 24 different photos are featured each week. To view, just send me your email address and I’ll arrange for Webshots to send an invitation.

A CD-R of nearly 3,000 photos is available, price £5.00 incl P&P, also the following VCDs (playable on most DVD players) each with 100 photos and backing music, £2.50 incl P&P: “BAOR 1940s-50s”; “BAOR 1960s”; “Cyprus 1960-62”; “Libya 1960-62”; “Lippstadt 1960s”; “N. Ireland 1970s”; “Four-Two Faces”; “Crewe Reunion 2003”; “Malton Reunion 2004”. Contact me via email or call 01505-683169.
Subject: 'Those Army Glass-Houses'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:35:23 03/30/05 Wed

Those of you who did a bit of time in any Army 'Nick' or Guardroom will know where I'm coming from regarding this piece. Being a soldier under sentence was far more preferable than being under close arrest as you knew what your punishment was! Once you got over the initial shock of being 'banged up' and being doubled around like a lunatic and being shouted at constantly and endless kit lay-out inspections you fell into a routine. The more they worked you the better you liked it for the simple reason that you didn't have time to dwell on your circumstances or feel sorry for yourself and time passed by quickly. I took it as another challange just like training was! You just soldiered on regardless. Admittedly some faired worse than others under that strict regime but if they couldn't take the rough with the smooth, then they should not have joined! Those who considered the system harsh were not suited for Army Life! Where men were men and women only came into our heads in sexual fantasies! I'll proberbly be slagged off for that remark, but what the hell it was true in them days! If the punishment hadn't been harsh then you would not have learn't by it! The soft option or as the Do-gooder brigade would call it re-education! I would call it Apathy leading to Anarchy more like!.....What say you?
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Subject: Embarrassment, or the love of your life?


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 22:05:03 03/29/05 Tue

Speaking about wives (well I was anyway!) and how they embarrass the shite out of us, sometimes. I remember, a good few years ago now, I had dropped Norma off at the supermarket and then come back later to pick her up. I was sitting in my car, a grey, Ford Granada, when I saw my good lady coming across the car park with a full shopping trolley and the gaggle of kids traipsing along. I jumped out and opened the boot, ready to help load the shopping, when I saw her stop by an almost identical grey, Ford Granada a few cars away. She opened the door, piled all the kids in (the days before kiddie seats and restraints), opened the boot and preceded to load the boot with the shopping. Evil pig that I am, I let her! When she had loaded all the shopping in, she then climbed aboard herself and got comfy. The panic, when I tooted my horn and waved to her and she realised what she had done was priceless. Needless to say, I paid for this bit of fun for days but it was worth it (I think?). Not quite sure what I would have said had the driver of the other Granada come back whilst we were transferring the goodies but, then again, I never figured out why he had left his car completely, unlocked in the first place? Norma said, "I thought there was something funny about that car. It didn't smell the same". I had leather upholstery, his was velour?????

Another time, whilst visiting the NAAFI shop in Lippstadt, she was accosted at the door by a couple of smiling, 'hail hearty' types and told that she was the 100,000th customer and, as such, had won a free trip home to Blighty. Thinking I had put a couple of mates up to play a joke on her, she told them to "stick it where the sun don't shine" and zoomed into the shop. Can't think what those blokes must have thought at this reaction from, what should have been, a very grateful squaddies wife. Never did find out who won the prize either?
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Subject: Humble apologies


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 22:19:09 03/29/05 Tue

Jimmy Panter, I most humbly apologise for my last post. In light of the previous message from Wes, please believe me when I say I wasn't in any way, being insensitive or meaning to cause any pain. I had readied that post earlier and, without thinking (my usual state of mind, I'm afraid), I copied and pasted it before I realised the subject matter. Once again, I am sorry for any undue hurt I may have caused and you have my sincerest condolences.
Subject: Victor Meldrew - further proof!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 15:33:28 03/29/05 Tue

Went on a post bank holiday shopping trip for the Mrs this morning and experienced a shocking bout of 'Parking Rage'. I entered the local shopping centre multi story, car park and started the usual hunt for a space. Not being officially 'disabled' and, therefore, not entitled to a disabled sticker, I can't park in the appropriate bays but, because I have trouble walking uphill (and ninety percent of the parking area is on a ramp so you either have to walk up or down to get to a doorway to the shops) I like to park as close to the entrance as possible. A task not very difficult today, as there wasn't much traffic about. I digress! (as I always do). Anyway, I spotted a place, on my left, and pulled over into the down lane, at an angle, preparing to back into the spot. Now, I did think that, judging by the angle of my car, the fact that my left indicator was blinking and my reversing light was lit that it would be obvious of my intent. Imagine then my shock, horror, rage when some ignorant, f***ing, GIRL racer type, dived into the spot I was reversing into. When I remonstrated with her, she replied "Tough luck grandad (which I f***ing am not!) first come, first served". To further add insult to injury, she had driven passed two slots further down the ramp to get to the one I wanted and when I pointed this out to her, she just shrugged! and pranced off. I swear, if she had been a man, I would have decked the twatt. As it was, I almost burst a blood vessel and had to sit down in my car for ten minutes to calm down. I am still seething, somewhat, as I write this. I really do think I am Victor Meldrew personified.
Subject: Jimmy Panter


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 13:30:09 03/29/05 Tue

Just a quick message to let all you members who served with 27 Regiment aware. That the wife of Jimmy Panter sadly past away, Jimmy your fiends in 49 Battery send there condolence at this sad time.
Subject: 42 Regimental Reunion


Author:
Mick
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Date Posted: 11:41:10 03/28/05 Mon

There seems to have been some confusion on booking a room for the Regimental Reunion in May at Southport for SATURDAY NIGHT ONLY. IF YOU WISH TO STAY AT THE HOTEL ON THE SATURDAY NIGHT ONLY THE FEE IS £45 FOR A SINGLE ROOM AND £60 FOR A DOUBLE or a TWIN ROOM. This price is ONLY IF BOOKED IN ADVANCE. If you decide on the SATURDAY NIGHT because you are unfit to drive that you wish to stay the night THE COST WILL BE £100 SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. THE COMMITTEE WILL NOT BE SYMPATHETIC TO ANYONE CAUGHT DRINKING AND DRIVING.
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Subject: Bickering? Who me?


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 13:18:38 03/27/05 Sun

Rick, of course we don't mind the cheek, once! After all, if you don't ask, you don't get. By the same token, How about a fortnight free donated as a prize in the raffle at the next Bty reunion? (Only joking......................or am I?)

Jim, just to clarify what I meant by quote; "bitching out of earshot of the person you are bitching about". I'm not talking about a genuine grievance or complaint. Certainly, that should have and, usually, was dealt with in the manner best suited to both parties. I was talking about the mindless, incessant, bitching-for-the-sake-of-bitching that most of us where capable of when (for instance, cold, wet and hungry) it was our turn to stag-on. The sort of bitching that, if done out loud and to the persons face, would have lead to endless arguments and bad feelings and would get on everyones nerves. This is the sort of thing I am talking about, and this seems to be going on today with our young contemporaries. Lack of discipline? Loss of Unit pride? lack of camaraderie? I don't know. Maybe a combination but, certainly, not helped by the right-on, PC brigade who demand every order be questioned and justified and make even the simplest of disciplinary actions a major court case. I don't think I would like the Army of today, just as, I'm positive, the Army of today would have hated ours and would not have survived. There you are! that's a contentious statement, if ever there was one. Replies welcome..........................
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Subject: 'Colly' and the other half


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 12:40:05 03/28/05 Mon

Tony, I remember being told a story by one of the lads about 'Colly'. Apparently, on his way home, on leave from Lippstadt. He was collared at Heathrow to escort a prisoner to the nick at Colchester. On arrival at the gates, he was instructed that the prisoner was in his care all through the reception procedure and he had to double everywhere with the prisoner and address everybody as 'Staff'. All this in his best civvies and carrying his suitcase. He felt that he was a prisoner and was never so glad to get away from the place.

Regards to wives embarrassing us! Norma, my wife, tells me of the time in Devizes, whilst we were on one of our jaunts across the water, she was invited to a party by one of the other wives. So, she got herself all spruced up in her finery. When the other girl came for her she was a bit taken aback that Norma had taken so much trouble just to attend a "Tupperware party". Wives, don't you just love 'em?
Subject: colchester hilton


Author:
tony grant
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Date Posted: 11:30:58 03/28/05 Mon

Jim the MCTC we saw on tele is nothing to what i experince on my stay,you worked 20hrs a day and you did not speak unless told to but i can say it did me no harm.I was promoted to l/cpl 3 weeks after leaving colly and i got a quarter in fally 2 weeks after that.LIN arrived oct 72 and two days later we where picked up by my new duffy[s/sgt eccles] in his brand new ford capri and taken to a do in the battery club where she got drunk fell to sleep on the loo Claire Hamilton had to climb over and let her out tony eccles drove us home lin was sick over his new car por gal.still falling to sleep on the loo but left thier now.
Subject: A Free Advert!!


Author:
Rick Walker (Ex 6 Bty 1983-1990)
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Date Posted: 16:15:49 03/21/05 Mon

Hope you don't mind the cheek, but all free advertising is good advertising!!
I have a quality apartment in Oludeniz, Turkey for rent if anyone is thinking of visiting the country. It really is a superb place in a great resort. If anyone is interested, please get in touch on rwtfs@aol.com or phone 01803 552850. Obviously 'special' rates for ex 27 members.
As advertised in the Gunner mag.

regards

Rick Walker
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Subject: Victor Meldrew lives!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 17:30:27 03/25/05 Fri

Jim, I don't know about ALL the afflictions you mentioned but I certainly had the tendency to dive for the ground at the sound of a car backfiring. This lasted for a good few years and, even today, the lilt of the Ulster accent tends to raise the hairs on the back of my neck somewhat.

Tony, it hardly seems credible to old soldiers like us, that these stories are for real but, unfortunately, they are all too true. I am a member of a site that is populated by as many currently serving soldiers as ex-squaddies and TA and some of the threads are, quite frankly, unbelievable. We all know that it is every soldiers prerogative (even, some will say, duty) to moan and bitch about his lot in life but that should be it! You have your moan, (making sure you're not in earshot of the person you're bitching about!) get over it and move on. No one in our day would have dreamed of taking any one to court, in fact, I don't think it would have even been possible in those days but, never the less, it just wouldn't have crossed our minds. The problem, though, isn't confined to our Armed Forces. It seems to be endemic to our society in general. Perhaps, a society on the slippery slope? Or am I an old fart who is getting to be just like all our own old folk, who thought that we were the devils spawn when we were young?
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Subject: 'Battery Punishment or What?'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 11:49:33 03/26/05 Sat

I was watching a programme the other night regarding the 'Swan Vesta's'and M.C.T.C.at Colchester. They interviewed this girlie who had got twenty-eight days for drinking in a restricted area (The Mens quarters) There were others, but she had been the only one that was caught! She had been put up on C.O's orders and had taken the 'rap' so to speak, and been made an example of! Don't think that it would have happened in our day, well not in the same context at least! The Regiment or specifically the Battery would have dealt with this 'In-House'and would not have gone to this extreme, unless of course she had pushed for C.O's orders thinking that she would get away with it without any punishment whatsoever!...Anyway I remember an incident that happened in Devizes concerning one of our own who was found to be guilty of theft from one of the lads in the same barrack room! Well before he went up on Order's the Sweat's got hold of him and had administered Battery Punishment to this offender basically breaking his fingers which though harsh, curtailed this individual from further offending. He had learn't a very valuable lesson that was dealt with effectively and without further recourse. Military justice though brutal worked as we never had any more re-offending of this nature again as far as I'm aware!
As they say...'Let the Punishment fit the Crime'. Everything in them day's was in black or white and we had very little to do in the grey area's which complicated the issues. We all knew where we stood in the pecking order of things and knew our limitations on how far we could push the limit without overstepping the mark! I only wish that you could say the same in today's modern Army!.......
Subject: Gunner mags


Author:
Roy edwards
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Date Posted: 11:10:32 03/25/05 Fri

Just to let all the O.C.A. know that the Gunner Magazines
have gone to Wes and Terry (free) for further use on the 49 web site.
Cheers Roy
Subject: what ever next


Author:
tony grant
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Date Posted: 07:48:57 03/25/05 Fri

Just read in todays paper that a army commando is going to sue the army for losing a tooth while playing a game of rugby stating he was ordered to play by his sgt because he did not want to play, tough life a.
Subject: 'The aftermath of a typical Tour of Paddyland'


Author:
Jim Martin (:) :D :( :-))
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Date Posted: 21:21:34 03/24/05 Thu

Upon returning from a typical Tour of N.Ireland I noted some strange habits that had developed upon return to normality so to speak! Firstly I had that two thousand yard stare, like I was on a different planet! Also had a tendancy to dive into doorways when a car backfired! Also was scanning rooftops and upper storey windows while walking and every now and again turned around and started to walk backwards which raised a few eyebrows of the civilian population in the vicinity! Had a tendancy to drink Guinness and Bushmills Whiskey whilst listening to Irish Rebel Songs and pepper-potting across open areas of ground! Also had a craving for Egg-banjo's whilst saying "I'm off to the Choogies mother" These afflictions lasted for quite a few months after returning. Would also feel uncomfortable drinking in a public House if I picked up anybody speaking with an Irish accent. Would also throw abuse at anything to do with WIMPEY or the Catholic Church! I consider that the majority of the lads developed one or more of these afflictions in some form or other!......What say you?
Subject: B******ings all round


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 22:29:14 03/23/05 Wed

Interesting. I have Just had my wrist slapped for posting 30 year old, so called, "Opsec". Why? The bilge I have posted is just that, bilge. It's an old soldier, swinging the lamp with like minded old soldiers. No names, no pack drill. Memories that are suspect and if they are at all accurate, are nothing to get excited about. They mean nothing to anyone who wasn't there or doesn't know me. I have accepted the admonishment and apologised to the Webmaster (who was acting in response to a complaint) but I will do it again. As far as I'm concerned, this is still a free country (well it will be after the next election, I hope) and we still have the right of free speech. Some one needs to get a grip, smell the coffee and remember who he served with. MEN not fannies. Nuff said! Besides...... I was very, very drunk!

If you double click on my name, you can send me an email and take me to task on any subject or matter you want. You can be as abusive or insulting as you like but be warned, I bite!
Subject: Payback!!!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 20:08:33 03/23/05 Wed

I can't remember at what stage in the proceedings that this next incident took place but it must have been fairly soon after instigating internment. It was decided that certain of the detainees (the more hard core, I think) where to be transferred to HMS Maidstone, in Belfast harbour, and the most secure and least risky way of doing this was by helicopter. So, a couple of RAF Westland Whirlwinds appeared and commenced a ferry service. On one such transfer I was designated as escort.

There were three detainees on this trip and they were chained together with handcuffs and as soon as we had boarded, were handcuffed to their seats. I was instructed to sit opposite them and make sure I was strapped in tight and off we went. Now, it transpired that these particular individuals were strongly suspected of being involved in the abduction and execution of three young Scots Guards that had caused widespread revulsion throughout the country. I was not in the loop, as they say, on this but the RAF crew were! Not long after take off, I was a bit surprised when the Loadmaster casually undid the handcuffs restraining them in their seats and, equally casually, slid open the big side door facing them. Without any warning, the aircraft suddenly banked steeply throwing the three out of their seats and towards the gaping open doorway. Just as I was expecting them to disappear out the door, into the empty sky, the aircraft banked the other way and they were deposited back in their seats. I don't know who were the whitest, them or me. I really thought that they were goners and so did they, I can tell you!

The rest of the flight went without incident, though I could see the three shaking with fright all the way. When we arrived at the landing zone in Belfast, next to HMS Maidstone, we were informed that the aircraft couldn't land as it was at risk, from something or another, so we would be doing a hover drop. This meant that they would hover about three/four feet off the ground and the prisoners would have to jump into the waiting arms of their RMP escort, waiting to take them to the ship. By this time it was getting dusk and with the light fading it was difficult to see outside the aircraft and I was told to stay in my seat as we would be leaving straight away after the drop. The Loadmaster then got the men to their feet and lined them up in the doorway. With a hefty shove, he launched them into space. This was very closely followed by three piercing screams. The barstewards had not hovered at three/four feet but twelve/fifteen feet and the RMP's had done the Holay! bit. We laughed our b****cks off all the way back to BallyK. Payback!!!!!
Subject: BallyK


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 19:14:31 03/23/05 Wed

I remember the BallyKinler episode. I remember being a bit miffed because 49 Bty had been tasked to be 'reception', where the other Bty's where going to have all the fun doing the actual 'dawn snatches'. We arrived at this remote patch of NI quite late in the afternoon and by the early hours of the next morning, this 'Gaulag' had been erected complete with goon towers and a double perimeter fence. Very impressive!

Around seven that morning, the first of the detainees started to arrive and were placed in these wooden huts, totally devoid of any furniture at all. They were spaced out around the walls, sat on the floor with their hands (fingers interlocked) on top of their heads. They weren't allowed to talk or move. I remember having a little fun by copying the WWII movie "The long, the short and the tall" (that I had seen a few weeks before) where the Japanese prison guards went round shouting at the Brit prisoners "Flingers on blonce, flingers on blonce". Christ knows what they thought? but it broke up the monotony for me. They sat there for most of the day and I remember one older guy in particular. I admit, I felt a bit sorry for him at first (he reminded me a bit of my Dad). Because he had sat there so long with his hands on his head, his fingers had swollen to the size of Walls sausages and they looked really painful. The poor sod couldn't get them apart when it came time for him to go for interrogation and he didn't come back to our hut, so I assume he was taken for medical aid somewhere. Didn't feel sorry for the twat for long though as he was reported to be one of the quartermasters for the IRA.

To be cont:...................................
Subject: 'A Hard Nut to Crack'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 00:03:34 03/23/05 Wed

Continuing on in regards Bally Kinnler tour. I remember that they had this Paddy who they believed held vital information and so they put him through the wringer so to speak,basically they tried everything to make him crack and divulge what they wanted to know. This Paddy was a real nasty piece of work,a real hard case. They tried all methods to break him down. Sleep deprivation, disorientation, good guy,bad guy treatment. Left him for long periods of time in the stress position just to weaken his resolve to no effect! Contrary to popular belief by the gutter press and media we never resulted to physical torture in any shape or form. The interrogators were running out of ideas so they brought in some officer from Lurgan who would employ a different strategy to crack this hard nut!...He came in and saw this Paddy in the stress position and asked him whether he was tired! The Paddy replied in the affirmative that he was! So this guy details us to go to the stores and get a bed and mattress etc...and bring them back to where Paddy was located. We thought that this guy had lost the plot! But orders being orders we did what we were told! Anyway he lets this bastard get his head down and even switches off the light and orders us out of the room! Whereupon he gets out the fags and offers them around to us. I noticed that he kept on looking at his watch!...We must have been out of there for about twenty minutes Then all hell breaks loose as he returns back into the room and promptly disposes Paddy out of bed and back into the stress position against the wall. Paddy going to sleep had switched off and his guard had been lowered and diminished completely. His vulnability had finally proved his downfall! He told them everything they wanted to know after that! One of the lads said to me afterwards that he could not have taken all that physcological pressure that we had inflicted on this Paddy. I had to remind him that we were fighting a rather unconventional war. And that the means justified the ends!........If these methods saved lives then what the hell!....
Subject: bugger the deckchair just collapsed


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 14:37:43 03/22/05 Tue

Remember ballyk well just come back from my honeymoon to be told we are going to NI to do interment what fun. We only cooked stew for the prisoners and if to thin told to thicken it with sand.Taff Williams was my shift NCO and on one shift he put me on pastry and I had to make 24 steamed duffs,made them,put in steamer then noticed my watch missing we could not find it anywhere,comes dinner servive cutting up duffs found watch in the middle of one still ticking good old timex. got to mend deckchair so bye for now.
Subject: 'Flag Waving for beginners'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:35:52 03/21/05 Mon

Whilst watching one of these re-runs of 'It ain't half hot Mum'on the telly took me back to times gone by putting the Union-Jack flag up numourous poles or masts as the Senior Service would put it! I remember the amount of times that our guys got this simple task wrong! The toggle always went to the top thus ensuring that all was well. If it went the other way round it signified a sign of distress was evident as has always been the case through history with British forces. The amount of bollockings that have ensued because some idiot had done this and had not realised the implications involved in his actions! Some Senior Rank going ballistic jumping up and down fit to burst throwing verbal abuse at his subordinates has always made me smile in a funny sort of way!....I remember in N.Ireland some Rupert wanted this Tri-colour flag removed off this pole from this hard line area. So us guys gathered around and tried to get this flag down without much luck as the bloody thing was stuck at the top! Some bright spark had the idea of shimmying up the pole,unfortunatly the pole had been greased. Paddy was enjoying this spectacle watching us struggling with this bloody pole. In the end we demolished this mast by chinese saluting it and decking this Tri-colour in the mud below which made Paddy very angry and revert back into Riot mode!....Our officer wanted to keep the flag as a souvenir but due to the aggravation we had received in completing this task we decided to burn it!...After all it wasn't our flag that had caused so much turmoil in the first place!......What say you?
Subject: DaveMelia


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Jimmy Cartwright
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Date Posted: 08:03:42 03/21/05 Mon

morning just checking through the Inkermann side, seen some old faces , Has dave melia got an email , as i would like to send email to him ,keep up the good work nice to go down memory lane ,all the best to the Battery in the future
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Subject: Gunner Magazines


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Roy Edwards
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Date Posted: 15:03:10 03/20/05 Sun

Hello OCA I am haveing a spring clean out, I have load of Gunner Magazine for the year 1993 and 1995 to 2004 full set of 12 months for each year. ALL FREE, If any one is intrested please call, (you would have to arrange collection)

Ex 49er Roy.
Subject: 'Butlins Bally-Kinnler Style'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:43:47 03/20/05 Sun

Several things remind me of that location. The main one being awoken in the very early hours of the morning to be told that we were going into the 'Internment'business! Whereupon we were detailed to strip out everything from these messun huts and around six o'clock the Engineers turned up and started to erect 'Goon' towers and run dannet wire around this compound also hessian screening to stop the media and press from taking photographs or filming anything that was happening in this restricted area. The RMP's and various other units turned up and by ten o'clock the first batch of these detainee's turned up. Everything went like clockwork. Only Army organisation could have achieved that in so short a space of time!...These Paddy's were being lifted and transported in from all over the Province. On reflection these many years later on the subject of Internment I think the theory was correct but the results were not what the Authorities expected.Yes they had taken these key-players off the streets,but it didn't have the lasting effect in curtailing the activities of both factions of terrorists from continuing the War,such as it was in them days!....What do you think?
Another incident that also occurred about that time concerned a character from the Bty named Willy Morgan who unintentionally drank Jeyes fluid in a cold cup of coffee while under the influence of alcohol!...How this happened I still do not know to this day,but this man nearly lost his life through this prank if that was what it was!..Willy thankfully survived and I remember meeting him one last time many years later in Woolwich while serving with the Garrison and him being on the MT staff of the Depot. I remember joking with him that he must have the cleanest guts in the British Army!...We are still trying to locate him today!....We do know that he was originally from the Chester area. Any information would be greatfully received by all who knew him and wishing to contact him wherever he maybe!..........
Subject: That Belfast Bunker!


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 11:47:56 03/18/05 Fri

I remember that there was some kind of a fall-out shelter located behind the Grand Central Hotel,believe it was something to do with the Post Office?....We used to have to search it on a fairly regular basis. I remember that it had two parallel corridors both running down the full length of this place intersected by horizontial seating spaces in between. It also had its own generator for power etc..The size of this place was very deceiving to say the least!Seemed massive inside though very clostraphobic and most of the lads couldn't wait to get out of there. Anyway moving on to another subject entirely. Heard the one about the Paddy who asked "Why did we wear those crimson cravats/scarfs around our necks?"...Well you have heard of the fanny brigade who bleed from the mouth every twenty-eight days! Well we are not them! We are the fally brigade,the heavy duty long range snipers! Paddy replies "Is that anything like the Para's?"...Well yes and no,you see Para's use parachutes and we do not!...."Ah yes" says Paddy with that far away look in his bloodshot eyes. Obviously his light is on but there is definately nobody in!!!....What say you?
Subject: Terry what do you think!!


Author:
Ron T
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Date Posted: 00:31:07 03/18/05 Fri


copyed and pasted from the web,
Victoria Cross awarded for first time in 20 years
LONDON (Reuters) - An armoured vehicle driver who twice drove out of ambushes under fire in Iraq will become the first recipient of Britain's top military honour in more than 20 years, the Ministry of Defence says.

Private Johnson Beharry of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment will be the first person to receive the Victoria Cross since 1982 and the first living recipient since 1965.

He was cited for "valour of the highest order" after he drove out of an ambush of rocket-propelled grenades and extracted his wounded colleagues from the vehicle while under fire in May 2004.

Six weeks later his vehicle was again attacked by rockets. His commander and other troops were incapacitated and he was seriously wounded in the head, but he kept driving to safety until he lost consciousness, the ministry said in a statement.

what say we invite him to the next bash, we don't know him he might be a total arse (we have worked with them before)but I will stand his room and I bet he won't have to buy a drink all night, any thoughts lads??

Ron
Subject: The Belfast' No Surrender' March.


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:20:46 03/17/05 Thu

The only thing that we achieved over there was an uneasy peace between both waring factions. The hate and mistrust between these communities was and is insurmountable to the extent that I think that will never be a lasting solution to the troubles!..The bloody Politicians on both sides will make sure of that! Anyway the Protestants wanted to March through the centre of Belfast and they were going to do it regardless whether the Authorities liked it or not,as a show of strength!..We were told to say well back in the background and not to intervene. So there they were all these para'militaries pranching about in combat gear with balaclava's on carrying enough fire-power on show to give the Authorities bloody nightmares!...Talk about a mexican stand-off!..The situation was surreal when we realised that these joker's could have given us a serious run for our money any time they wanted too!...I remember Billy Hamilton being told to cover up a tattoo on his arm because he had Celtic writen on it!...as some Prot might take offence to displaying such a provocative word of a Catholic Scottish football team...Crazy or what?
I remember Andy Five winding this Protestant up about this parade that he was bragging about to us,and Andy saying something along the lines of "If your that good you might as well take over from us!"...Whereupon he chambered a round up the spout and threw his rifle over to this guy,who began to panic when he saw our weapons coming up towards him! For the next few minutes this rifle was being shuntered between this Paddy and Andy. The realization that he was in deep-shit was evident on his face,anyway Andy had switched magazines before this little party piece was set in motion and the bullet chambered was a cigarette lighter in the shape of a 7.62 round unbeknown to this Paddy!...Who was begining to freak out!..Never again would he brag to British Soldiers about bloody para'militaries ever!.....I'm certain this guy walked away a wise but weaker man on reflection wouldn't you say?
Subject: Woe is me!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 23:37:16 03/16/05 Wed

Not been on the board for a few days, not been well, but had a great time catching up. Keep those stories coming lads, brilliant!

With all the sadness and trauma going on in the world at the moment, it is worth reflecting on the death of a very important person, which almost went unnoticed last week.

Larry LaPrise, the man who wrote "The Hokey Cokey," died peacefully at age 93. The most traumatic part for his family was getting him into the coffin.
They put his left leg in. And then the trouble started.
Subject: more thoughts from the beach


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 11:39:10 03/15/05 Tue

As I sit here with the barmy north sea gently wash over my feet I remember a day out we had on one of are visits to NI a group of us went for few drinks in newcastle and got on very well with a local fisherman who said did we fancy a trip around the harbour being sober four of us said yes and of we went, got into to fishing in boat and one of us proceed to fall in[no names]it took some explaining to duty officer on return[am open to bribery to reveal name]Jim I remember achnaclouy well i spent a lot of the second tour there as cook with alan wakeman because i spent a lot of time ther I lead some patrols from there we always went out of the rear of the building and went to a point on the boarder so we could observe any goings on,and if Iremember correctly our rations where brought in by chopper which was not aloud to land because of a chance of a rocket attack.
Subject: 'The Border Excursion'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 10:53:04 03/15/05 Tue

Believe that it was on the second tour of N.Ireland that we ended up in a place called Aughnacloy which was smack on the border. A sleepy little hamlet in the middle of nowhere!...Or so we thought! We spent alot of time motoring around the countryside,stopping and searching vehicles. I can remember one incident in particular when we stopped this Paddy and asked him to open his boot of his car which he seemed reluctant to do so!...Regardless we opened it and to our amazement found nothing literally! The flooring had rotted away so you could look straight down onto the tarmac so to speak! Only Paddy could travel around in a car like that! I remember that we did go over the border on at least two occassions unintentionally and the only reason that we clicked on was because all the bloody signs were in gaelic. Thankfully the 'Garda' wasn't about so we does a rapid 'U'turn and bollocks back to where we came from at high speed! In this hamlet of Aughnacloy one of the lads found a watering hole at the back of this funeral parlour where you went through a curtain to the bar!...Must have been great for 'Wakes!'....Wee Tommy couldn't understand where his crew kept on disappearing too! I remember a certain chicken farm a real disgusting shithole of a place,searching the outbuildings and surrounding area's for Arms etc....Heard that they had found some weeks after that we had been there, a 'cache of weapons' hidden in plastic bags in a pit full of chicken shit!...Just goes to prove nothing was what it seemed in that place!...Don't you agree?
Subject: Lennie the tramp


Author:
Wes
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Date Posted: 20:55:16 03/13/05 Sun

Who remembers the tramp who use to spend all his time in the doorway of the building society next door to the GCH, think his name was Lennie.
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Subject: Belfast


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Wes
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Date Posted: 23:46:01 03/11/05 Fri

Remember the time when in the centre of Belfast (GCH), when the Battery search team had to assist in searching a bakery in the markets, Sammy Houghton fell in to a great large flour container, when suddenly to a appear his first words were, so this is what it is like to be white, we all fell about laughing. for those who did not know Sammy, well he was from Jamaica.
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Subject: penpals


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jools
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Date Posted: 17:50:13 03/12/05 Sat

Hi Guys, Hope you dont mind me using your message board, i belong to 23 Bty, where i saw your link.But i could make someone really happy here.
This is a message for the guys who are either single, divorced or widowed and are in their late 30's upwards. I have some very nice women on my site www.forcespenpals.co.uk, (really i do!)and some that have just written to me asking to start up a friendship etc with guys in the forces or are ex forces, via letter writing. So if there is any of you out there, which i'm sure there is, drop me a line with your address, age and interests and what your ideal penpal should be like and i'll find you that special person. By the way, i've got my 1st marriage from my website in July, which i'm really chuffed about, and i'm invited to the wedding, so i must be doing something right.
Take care of yourselves and your families.
Joolsxxx
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Subject: 'The Belfast Sky Pilot'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 15:12:09 03/12/05 Sat

We meet some truly remarkable Characters on what I remember of that tour of the City centre of Belfast. One in particular stands out,and for the life of me I cannot remember his Name? If there is a God he will know! He wore a dog collar,and he had something to do with the College in that fair city.He was not the usual type associated with the Bible bashing clergy! He used to go round all the Segment gates that were manned of a night bringing a 'brew' round for the lads and he would have a word to say to everybody on duty. Apparently he would do all this off his own back without expecting any help from anybody! And very much appreciated it was by all the lads. Come rain or shine he would turn up regardless of the weather,night after night,always a smile and a few words of encouragement for those of us in the twilight zone! I even saw sceptic's like 'Andy Five'deep in conversation with this gentleman on a number of occasions. Truly remarkable as I said! If you visited his 'Chapel' you would find Regimental plaques all around the walls of every Unit that ever saw duty in that fair city given to him as a Thankyou for a service that nobody could repay for this man's diligent and time, that meant so much to those that were there in those troubled times !.......Amen.
Subject: Reflections of Belfast


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 11:25:37 03/12/05 Sat

Belfast city centre was a great place to be, apart from the 'Troubles'. You could never take anything at face value over there! The 'Bomb-scares'used to be the worst! I remember going into a big store like Woolworths with this Rupert and walking as calm as you like into the middle of the shopping area and him removing his sun glasses and saying those two magic words "Bomb-scare". Whereupon everybody picked up their possessions and left the store as calm and collected as you like,they being so used to going through these terrors every day over there in some form or other! We didn't need to be told when you were entering a hard line area,you would instinctively know by the change in atmosphere and acted accordingly by chambering a round up the breech just as a precaution you understand!....We were searching a train that had just come in from the south from Dublin and nobody had told us that this train usually changed platforms and was shunted out and brought back on a different line!...We were flapping big time because we thought we were on our way to Dublin(as the song goes) in the green, and feeling green so to speak! It was only afterwards that we could laugh about it!...Our faces must have been a picture thinking of the worst possible scenario' Strange how after all this time that these things come to mind!.....Don't you think?
Subject: ' Is that yourself there Paddy?'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:41:58 03/10/05 Thu

There was this tale going around about this certain 'Tea-stop'. Which was I believe was situated in a Crematorium. This Paddy loved pukka pies and he would put these into the oven with the stiffs! Apparently because he was convinced that it used to enhance the flavour of the pies in question!...I cannot say whether this was true or just one of many Myths that were popular in them days! I do remember standing on Segment gates for hours upon end searching people coming into Belfast city centre to do their shopping. Sometimes with one of the girls with us if we were lucky!..The amount of strange items found in womens handbags never ceased to amaze me! Viabrators,Dildo's,strap-on's and the like,the list is endless.Vaseline and butt-plugs also included. I never looked at women's handbags in the same way afterwards!
We used to have postcards of the top ten 'most wanted' in our poccession. One of the top guys used to dress up in no end of disguises to be able to freely move about Belfast. He was known to dress up as a priest and as a woman and sometimes as a nun!....So we had our share of cross-dresser's and the like, to contend with! Our pet hate used to be these senior Ranks that would constantly try our patience by testing us coming into the segment area armed and in civi's without being identified!...Bastards,so they could go back and report us to the 'Powers that Be' We used to take great pleasure in collaring these bastards!...May have kept us on our toes,but honnestly we didn't need this aggro' with everything else that we had to contend with in them days!......Don't you think?
Subject: NI


Author:
Mike (fred) Tippett
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Date Posted: 08:51:25 03/09/05 Wed

Hi Dave, when I look back to NI I don't remember alot, then again I always did have a lousy memory. I do remember having a good time out there between bouts of lack of sleep and being waste deep in Irish bogs. Coste Del Sol it isn't but when you got a great bunch of lads around you and have a good laugh all the crap stuff fades into the background.All I know is with guys like the Charlie Hills,Taff Bakers,Billy Dainty's,George Creeks and the Tabs brothers (Dave and Mark Wardle)NI didn't know what hit them. There was so many characters in the battery and that I believe is what made our Battery stand out ahead of all the rest. Right back to work now CYA. Mike
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Subject: WRAC Memoirs


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:03:11 03/09/05 Wed

I have two, very striking, memories of the fair members of the WRAC. The first one as a boy soldier, a mere 15 years old, and still at the stage of worshipping all women and placing them on pedestals. We where on our annual practice camp and, due to bad weather and a cock-up in food supply (nothing new there then!) we had gone into a regular Regt to take advantage of the offer of a hot meal. To our great delight (and lascivious, lecherous thoughts) the meal was being served up by members of the WRAC, our first encounter with these wondrous creatures.
When my turn came to be served with the sausages, I had the temerity to ask, in true Oliver Twist fashion, for an extra one. To my absolute shock, horror, I was answered, in the strident tones of an 'Essex girl', "Where do you fackin fink you are? On yer fackin daddies yacht?" Needless to say, the deafening noise of women crashing to the ground from the highest of pedestals, together with my face radiating near sun surface temperatures, added a few years, instant experience, to my life.

The other 'close encounter' with WRAC was when I did a CAPE tour in the North West of the country. We where billeted in Saighton (spelling?) Barracks in Chesterfield and the only permanent staff, at that time, was a Company of WRAC. We, 9 men, where housed in a block not a condoms throw from their 'club', the Snake-pit. There are many, many stories to come from this adventure but, the one I'm about to relate best sums up the typical squaddie image of the WRAC. The main prop that we used to entice gullible young men into accepting the Queens shilling, was a 175mm Pack Howitzer, towed by a three quarter ton Land-Rover. One, fateful evening, returning from a hard days graft (fnar, fnar) in Liverpool, we lost an argument with a petrol tanker on the Chester By-pass and rolled the landi and gun, resulting in the gun breaking down into quite a few pieces more than was designed. A recovery was requested from the girls at Saighton Barracks and, after a couple of hours of chasing off scallies who where trying to nick bits of the gun that was scattered over the traffic island that we had neglected to manoeuvre around, a mini bus arrived, driven by the biggest 'girl' I have ever seen in my life. Not fat, BIG! She must have been 6' 5" and built like the proverbial shitehouse. While we three, shook-up (but otherwise uninjured), accident victims ponced around collecting the smaller bits of the gun and throwing them into the back of the mini bus, SHE collected the barrel and every other heavy bit completely unassisted by us. Incidentally, we never did recover the brass breech block!

Completely off topic, Jim, another version of your drill instructors patter whilst inspecting a WRAC:

"Next time you come on parade girl, wear some knickers!"

"How do you know I'm not wearing any Sarge?"

"You've got dandruff on your f***ing toecaps!"
Subject: 'Those Girls of theWRAC's'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 15:32:43 03/09/05 Wed

I have fond memories of the places where these girls use to serve. Apart from Woolwich, C.O.D.Donnington comes to mind!...I remember once having one of our Drill-pigs take a squad of WRAC's for a spot of square bashing. He put them through their paces but he made it fun,for them as much as us! He had them in the open order right dress and proceeded to inspect them. Going along the line checking that they were all spick and span so to speak! Comes up to one girl and gives her an admiring look and checks the toe-caps of her shoes and says "Either you got a crack in your toecap or you arn't wearing any knickers!".....The whole squad burst out laughing. Next he said "When I say Shun, I want to hear the slap of them fannies come together..Attention!"...And so the banter went on. The girls loved it and a good time was had by all! Don't think that you could get away with that nowadays! Some of these girls could out drink most men that I've drank with. They really were good fun to be around. Their favourite tipple at that time was a drink called 'Snake-bite'a lethal concoction made up of rough-cut Cider and Vodka with a splash of blackcurrant! These girls used to drink this by the bucket load. We may have been segregated in them days but I bet you that we had more fun that way!...What do you think?........
Subject: NI black-out


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:29:26 03/08/05 Tue

Tony, I don't know what it is about NI but, despite doing six tours (I think?) I don't seem to have many memories. Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that I didn't like the place? I do remember the first time we went though. It was Easter and we where getting ready for a long weekend. We where on Strategic-Reserve so it didn't come as that big a surprise to get a bug out just before the weekend started. Off we all trundled to Brize Norton and loaded aboard a Hercy-bird, still thinking it was a practice, one circuit and land, then home for tea and a long weekend. One landing later, at Aldergrove, and Welcome to NI.

6 weeks, I think, that first tour and a bit of a lark. Drinking tea at the front doors of the Proddies in the New Barnsely Estate, opposite the Ballymurphy, and living on the streets most of the time till we got billeted in the school, by the Springfield Road, whilst they were on Easter break. Organising bingo in the church hall was our biggest headache. What a change when we went back for the second tour though! I can't, for the life of me, remember how we came home from that tour or, for that matter, how we got over there and back for the next 5? Seem to vaguely remember a drive up to Liverpool for the ferry for one tour but the rest are a blank. Some dim, spark was ignited when 'chinky' crew was mentioned though, might have been the Gallahad!
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Subject: Cynics Unite


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 20:36:18 03/08/05 Tue

Some people look back on their military service and, for whatever reason, they had a terrible experience and wished that they had never joined. Some people look back and, though they didn't have a hugely successful career, think that they got something out of the experience at least but wouldn't do it again. Some people look back on a distinguished and successful career and think that it was the best thing that ever happened in their whole life. We are all individuals and have many differing philosophies in our lives. What we ALL have in common though are the friendships and the camaraderie that developed from sharing such close living, daily toils and, on occasion, dangerous and frightful times.

Because we are all so very different, not everyone will have retained the same memories of that time in their lives (as is so obvious from the disparate and spotty nature of the threads in this forum) and will not have the same abilities to share those memories (again, as is so obvious from the, relatively, small number of contributors on this forum). For this reason, the reunions are unique. They allow us the chance to rekindle the fires of those friendships and acquaintances that the passage of time and distances have forced us to let slip. Those of us that wish to, that is. There are a lot of our fellow travellers who do not share the same sentiments and therefore, whatever their reasons are, we have to respect them.

Also, because of the very nature of the longevity of the Army and this Bty in particular, we must acknowledge the overlapping and rolling nature of friendships and acquaintances. It's not like WWII, for instance, where most people shared the experience for a, relatively short defined, period of time. Some of the members of our Association have enjoyed careers spanning three decades or more and others maybe only a few years. But, whatever the length of service, we are all brothers (and now, sisters) in arms by the fact that we have all served in 49 Inkerman Bty, in WHATEVER Regt and capacity that Bty has served in over the years and is still serving! For this reason it would be difficult, I think, to try set down any definitive book of memories. It would be of great interest to those of us who where around at that time and could relate to the people and incidents quoted but, maybe, not so much of interest to those of us who where not and couldn't! This is where the Reunions and this board come into their own. We can all relate to a bunch of squaddies sitting around with a pint or two under their belts and swapping war stories, after all, it's what we do best and, I hope, will continue to do for a few more years yet. The point I am trying to make though, is that, although the Association is at present, mainly, populated and geared to those of us from the sixties and seventies, we must make every effort to encourage those from the intervening years, and the present, to help support the Association. Who knows, there just might be a 49 Bty OCA holding reunions well into the middle part of this century and beyond? This board is a virtual reunion, available 24/7/365 (I hate that phrase! but so effective) for those of us privileged to be on the net and must be encouraged as much as the attendance of the reunions.

I have to put my cynics hat on though and state that the fly in the ointment in all this, as we have seen so much evidence of in this country of late, is the dreaded Apathy. I am sorry if I seem to be raining on everyones parade at this point but I hate to say that, as has been stated by others on this board, there is something seriously lacking in the youth of today! It seems to be bereft of the pride and self respect that so motivates people to strive for a better world. Selfish, arrogant, greedy and idle are words I should never be associating with Englishmen. Did our parents think that of us? Am I just being an old fart? Is it time we started to take a hard look at ourselves? Discuss!
Subject: Reflections of Reunions


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 16:45:53 03/08/05 Tue

This is the most difficult piece that I believe I have written concerning a contenious issue covering Reunions. None of us are getting any younger and time marches on ...so to speak. We all have memories of our past that if left will fade away and be forgotten for ever! There are those that will not attend Reunions simply because they state that what happened is the past and not relevant, to the future!..Those who believe this I consider are running away from what they are, or trying to forget who they are! The past is always with you to an extent in everything that we do!...It is not just curiousity that makes people attend these functions but a bond not specifically to relive the past but to ensure that those who carry on will remember and understand what it was like to live and survive in our time! We need to put down our thoughts and recollections on print to establish not just who we are, but what we did and why! simply not just because of nostalgia, but as a record that future generations can analyse and learn by. This message board is a way of producing those thoughts through this medium. Don't you agree?.....So come on say what you mean and mean what you say!.....Lets have some feedback from those who served this country in them days.....What say you?....
Subject: more tales from the beach


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 12:58:27 03/08/05 Tue

One memory I do have from londonderry was being stationed in the old prison, it had the best views over the creggan with a observation point on the roof,we could look into the blocks of flats just the other side of the city wall where Dana[eurovision winner] lived. Ialso remember maning a road block at the cros road just outside the prison which divided the catholics from the others and them trying to ram the the roadblock I remember the officer shout gas masks on I did this but removed tin hat at the same time they started to hurl broken paving slabs at us and i was hit on head and I remember big marty collins dragging me away[what a headache] Well time to put the deckchair away.
Subject: 'The Londonderry Air'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:55:46 03/06/05 Sun

Operation Motorman was the name I believe that the Ruperts called it!..Early hours of the morning laying on some patch of wet ground in full Riot gear,awaiting the order to advance into this estate called Creggan. Paddy as always knew we were there!...Going in,listening to the dustbin lids and dogs barking alerting all and sundry as to our presence. Paddy had been as usual a naughty boyo'and had been ripping up paving slabs and had put mini-barricades across most of the roads leading into the area. We were to support the Royal Engineers who were to remove them! Paddy as usual was in Riot mode and decided to cause us as many problems as possible. On Creggan Hill we got hammered from both ends! They were throwing everything at us except the kitchen sink!...We responded with CS gas and rubber bullets. The air was filled with CS gas smoke! Paddy had a andidote against this!...a hankerchief dipped in vinegar that appeared to work better than the bloody gas masks that we were wearing!...Eventually we dispearsed down towards this place called 'the green' where we had some respite from the Rioting!...I remember when we pulled out going back down into L'Derry itself being somewhat bemused by the amount of squaddies pouring out from the area in question from all these different units!...What a sight to behold they were!....It's truly remarkable how these things stick in your mind,even after all these years! Don't you think?.........
Subject: sea cruise


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 20:34:41 03/05/05 Sat

Today[sat] as I sit in my deck chair on felixstowe beach watching the ships plough the waves it reminds me of a cruise we had from belfast to marchwood returning from our first tour of NI Ithink it was on the sir galahad I remember being very unwell as we circeled the isle of man looking for a missing fishing boat man was i sick.
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Subject: 'The Jolly Green Giant is Coming!'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:57:00 03/04/05 Fri

Something that Roy Scott said about the fear that used to send soldiers diving for cover when the RSM was sighted!...Made me once again reflect back to our days in Fallingbostel. The RSM was to a Regiment, like Heindrich Himmler was to the Third Reich!...Bad example maybe, but because his influence and power was considered absolute.You wouldn't dare walk on 'God's parade square without his permission unless of course,you were contemplating suicide!...Even the 'Monkey's' the Military Police would have to report to the RSM for permission to enter the Camp even if they were only going to the families Naafi!..and woe betide those that didn't! I swear that our RSM had built in Radar and eyes in his backside when these people were about on his Camp!...The RSM knew all the scam's and excuses as he had been a 'Ranker'and as they say "You can never bullshit a bullshitter"...A suggestion by him to a junior Officer was not mean't as an idea but as a command. He may have had to say "Sir"or"Mister" to these Ruperts,but they knew that he could make or break them just the same as any other squaddie! Such was the pecking order and respect in the Regiment in them days.....
Subject: Today's Army Attitudes!


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:46:33 03/03/05 Thu

You only have to look at today's society in general to realize that the Armed Forces have radical problems concerning Discipline and Morale,this could be due to the lack of Respect and the youth culture. The deterioriation of fundimental values and Traditions leading to a lack of pride and self-esteem are evident. Another valid point concerns mixed gender intergration. Call me sexist if you will,but I consider putting men and women on the front line together is a recipe for disaster. The Isralis tried it and found it created more problems then it resolved. I have not got a problem with having women in the Army. They are more adaptable in a lot of respects,than their male counterparts,they also have the capacity to do more than one task at a time unlike us men!...It's the sexual chemistry that produces the overtones and the rivalry that these attachments that usually developes, that causes fiction and a breakdown of discipline. In our day you had WRAC Company's that worked in conjunction with their male counterparts though, were segregated for precisely the reasons I have stated!..Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus!...Can't say that this would affect the contentious issue concerning'Equal Opportunities' because they could still continue in their respective roles within the Army as before! Though you might still have a problem with the 'Sexual Discimination'lobby!...All this down to those bloody Politican's some might say?.....
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Subject: Today's Army


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 08:20:01 03/03/05 Thu

Roy, that's a pretty damming and sorry indictment of our present day soldiers. I'm not doubting your observations for a minute, I've heard similar remarks from other sources too. I gues it says a lot about our society as a whole really. The increasing "I'm all right Jack, Fcuk you!" attitude from all levels of political as well as spiritual leadership in this country combined with the ever incroaching 'Big Brother' and 'Nanny State' policies so beloved of this septic, self gratifying, government seems to be the culmination of the slippery road that we started on in the seventies. I said then, that the writing was on the wall for this country. The gradual bluring of the definition of right and wrong, the acceptance of homosexuality as the 'norm' and the emergence of the apologists who make us ashamed of being what we are, are responsible for the emasculation of this once great nation. The loss of National Pride and Identity the Pro-Euro lobby have allowed Brussels to so weakened us with, has led to our loss of our sense of position in the world order but, the greatest sickness this country is suffering from, is Apathy. Sorry! Rant over. Just got carried away there for a minute. I guess what I am trying to say is that I am so sad to see the slow disintigration of a great Institution such as the British Army, to which I was SO PROUD to have belonged.
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Subject: Today's Army


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Roy Scott
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Date Posted: 08:17:23 03/03/05 Thu

Dave,i work close with soldiers on daily basis over here in northern ireland. most of the of the newer ones dont hold the same pride for there regiments or companys(bty) the unwritten codes of never leaving a mate behind and looking out for each other seem to have gone,i think it has alot to do with the way they go through basic training now it seems to be alot easier and certain eliments get through the system where as before they would have been sifted out,drugs is a big problem in the army now.the way sncos and jncos are spoken to by privates would never have been heard of when i was in respect seems to be lacking. and the fear that use to send soldiers diving for cover when the RSM was sighted walking round the camp does,nt happen any more.I agree the army of today is at times at a greater risk but it is a shame to see pride in the unit your serving in fading away.
Subject: One for the serving boys and girls!


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 22:56:39 03/01/05 Tue

Here's one for the boys and girls presently serving in the Bty. During a debate amongst various old farts (regarding the pro's and con's of Bty v Regt reunions) a comment was made about there not being the same level of comradeship in the Army of today.

I, personally, can't subscribe to that idea. Not being a Soldier in todays Army, I couldn't possibly make such a comment. I suspect that the level of comradeship in todays Army is possibly greater even than when we where serving, for the main reason that, most of, you have been in harms way and shared the dangers. OK! we did our fair share of NI tours but, at the risk of starting a further debate ( bring it on!) I don't think the dangers we faced, though very real at times, where anything like the dangers you guys where placed in. Observations would be welcome.
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Subject: 'Swings and Round-a-bouts'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:53:39 03/02/05 Wed

Following on from what Dave Parker has said. I have only admiration for those serving in todays modern Army!...Their professionalism and tolerance of todays System I can only applaud.The impossible situation concerning Accountibility and Political Correctness,Sexual Discrimination and various other contentious issues make me wonder whether they have to be soldiers or barrack-room lawyers to survive the rigours of modern day soldiering! In our day life was far simpler....the issues were far less complicated than they are today! We relied more on instinct then on Technology. People said what they mean't and not what the System would have you say!....NCO's could shout and bawl to their hearts content without causing offence,certainly not having complaints lodged against them for intimidation and bullying!...The culture now-a-days of taking things to the extremes does not inspire me at all! I feel regret and sorrow for our modern day soldiers simply because which ever way they turn their hands are tied by Bureaucracy!.....What say you?
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Subject: never forgotten


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 20:34:09 03/01/05 Tue

When we where in fally and on excercise i have strong recall that we had a gun position ver close to Belsen and i remember Roy Diskett taking me and geoff bloom into the grounds and there was not a sound.
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Subject: Those 'Married Pads Wives'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 10:47:42 03/01/05 Tue

We had touched on most subjects concerning Army life of those days,and I suppose that it wouldn't be fair not to mention those ladies who were in the background,but very much in the minds of their menfolk. I refer of course to the 'Ball and Chains.! It's amazing how many of these men who were scared of nothing suddenly became gibbering idiots when confronted with the wrath of 'She' that must be obeyed! A wife could make or break you in the Army!....True! Many a good soldier can testify who saw a promising career go sour because of his wife! Some of these women had more power than their husbands! There was a kind of Rank structure within the'Wives Club'. We used to call them 'The Naafia'. The Power behind the Throne,so to speak! You ever noticed how a proverbial sex goddess changes overnight into this ranting and foul mouthed fat repulsive ugly bastard,FRUB for short!...There was one S'NCO's wife who made her husband wear his rank on his pyjamas and have sewn in creases in his bottom attire! What a bitch!...One good thing was that the Officers faired no better than we did!...Some consulation there I think!....Another pads wife used to bring her husband his Sunday dinner in the Battery Club. Usually the dinner was cremated and she used to stand over him while the poor sod had to eat it!....The rest of us cringing in a corner not wishing to further upset this concrete shithouse of a woman!....Its no wonder that I married late in life! They say if you can't take a joke,then you should'nt have joined!....Bloody true in this case I should think?.....What say you?
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Subject: What happened next?


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 22:36:33 02/28/05 Mon

This one is not really a tale from my army days but more a "What happened next". I left the Army in 1974 and for the next six years did a number of jobs. In 1980 I was asked if I fancied a job as a chauffeur? The thought behind the offer was that with my disciplined background and the fact that I knew how to look smart, I would find the job easy. The guy I was going to drive for was the MD of an outfit called British Steel Service Centres and was the stockholding arm of British Steel. The company had a nationwide coverage, with something like 100+ depots spread throughout the UK. As the MD liked to get around as many as possible each month, the job entailed a lot of driving. I, subsequently, got used to driving 100,000 miles, plus, per year but, I digress! When I went for the interview for the job, I had an initial chat with the Personnel Director who informed me that the boss was ex-military too and, in fact, had been awarded the MM at Dieppe as a young lieutenant. When it came time for the interview, it must have been on my mind that this was a bit like a CO's interview and I marched in and slammed to attention in front of his desk and was half way to saluting him, before realising where I was. "F****ing hell, young Parker" he said, pissing himself laughing. "I haven't had anyone do that to me in years. "Sit down, for Christ sake!" That was the start of a fantastic working relationship with a brilliant man who came to treat me like the son he never had. Sadly, he passed away a few years ago, not long after retiring!! That also was the last occasion that I ever bullshitted my way into a job. After chatting for a while and reminiscing about our relative Army experiences, he told me I had the job, subject to a driving test with his Financial Director and he threw me the keys to, his pride and joy, a 4.2 Jaguar, with the admonishment "Don't friggin bend it!". Now, I had never driven an automatic before but when asked if I had, I of course replied "Yeah, no problems" and spent the next twenty minutes sweating goolies while I got used to it, with the bosses last words echoing in my ear! Needless to say, I passed and, later, went on to pass my advanced drivers test and clock up over a million miles with the company over the next 14, or so, years.
Subject: Revenge is a bitter pill


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:49:48 02/28/05 Mon

Jim, I don't really remember any phantom sh*tter but I do remember a couple of incidents of, let's say, revenge? One particularly nasty one was when someone poisoned the fish tank in the Bty Office. It was rumoured that they pissed in it but wouldn't put too much stock in that. Another time, someone took the hump with the BSM and cut his favourite swagger stick into neat little lengths and left them piled up on his desk. There was hell to pay for that. The trouble with these acts of defiance though, was that it was the rest of us who paid for them in the end, by bearing the brunt of the wrath of the BSM!
Subject: Farewell


Author:
Wes Harding
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Date Posted: 15:30:01 02/03/05 Thu

Just to inform you all, now that Terry is back in the driving seat of the 49 Battery OCA fit and well, he will once again be taking over the running of the OCA. Terry will also be taking over the running of the OCA web site as soon as we can do a hand over.
The reason for this is that I'm moving out to live in Bulgaria within the next 6 Months, setting up a 8 to 10 room Bed & Breakfast just outside Varna on the Black Sea Coast.
Once settled and ready any former members of 49 Battery, even any Ex Gunners will be most welcome. (Special Rates)
So I would just like to thank all who supported me while I was covering for Terry with the duties of the OCA. " THANK YOU "
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Subject: Toilet Humour 'Myths?'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:30:02 02/27/05 Sun

This piece is dedicated to the 'Phantom Shit'ter'. Whoever he may have been! I think every unit in the Army must have had one of these Characters at sometime or another! "They seek him here,they seek him there!"Like Zorro,always left his mark! So did 'The Phantom Shit'ter'. I suppose it was done to either get back at a certain individual or the system that would make up work,even if there was nothing to be done! Mindless fatiques for example!...Bullshit parades that usually entailed cleaning and polishing everything in sight above and beyond the call of duty so to speak! In other words "If you are going to give us this Shit,then you can have this in return!..A gesture of defiance you could say! I can't say off hand, whether any of these guys ever got caught in the act of doing the business of producing a walnut whip and signing off with a flourish!The fact being that nobody was above suspicion. We all had some idea of who it was,but could never prove it!...The senior ranks used to go ballistic at these desecrations and threaten any amount of punnishment for the offender! But alas,to no avail! Some bright spark even started to run a 'book'on who the likely candidate was?...in the Battery Club! Regardless the 'Powers that Be'sooner or later usually realised the error of their ways and stopped the mindless fatiques and bullshit parades etc....at least for the time being!....And the 'Phantom' went back into the Toilet closet,until the next time! As the senior Rank said "Don't Shit on my Parade!".....Who is he trying to Fool?.......What say you?
Subject: Photos


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Derek Melia
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Date Posted: 21:25:56 02/19/05 Sat

Hi every one,
Im making a request again for 49 Bty Photos Im sure most of
yu had a camera at the reunion if so please send me any photos you have spare or even send them as a email attatchment because im now up to over 1500 photos on the latest cd so if you want them published please send them.
Derek Melia.
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Subject: Yankee's Go Home!


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 15:22:38 02/25/05 Fri

To continue on regarding our 'Friendly Fire' Allies cock-ups! I remember being in a Convoy Guard basically to protect Nuke or Dummy Rounds,no one knew at our level what! Removing said items from a secure facility to a field Storage Facility somewhere in the middle of nowhere in conjunction with the Yanks! The training was a pain in the arse,bullshit all the way!..Two Yanks and two Brits in the back of a four-tonner protecting these said items that were chained down to the floors of vehicles. The rest of us in the back of another vehicle travelling behind. Rupert in front in his 'Pinky'leading the way! You get the picture!...Convoy stops for whatever reason out we get and throw a cordon around the Convoy with out-of-date rifles and bayonets fixed! Come's the day of Inspection when the Brass Hats come out of the woodwork to test us on all procedures learn't. So they mock up this Gas Attack...We get into our noddy-suits,the Yanks into their womble gear, all with gas masks on. I was put on guard at the only entry point to the convoy at large. Down comes this American brass hat with all his entourage in tow in the same gear that we had on! Went through all the layed down procedures "Advance and be recognised" and all that crap! This guy lays down his I.D card on the deck and steps back! I pick it up and look at it! No way could I Identify who was behind the gas mask in question! So I puts it back and says "If you want to come through take your gas mask off so I can Identify you!" That got him by the old short and curlies!..The Rupert behind me was going ballistic, thinking his career prospects were going down the tube very rapidly because of me!...If this senior Officer wanted to play silly bugger's then so could I! I wasn't having any of it ! To cut a long story short we passed with flying colours,but no thanks to that Rupert nick-named Capt Chaos so called leader of men! What a joke!....Don't you think?........
Subject: Yanks


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 19:36:28 02/24/05 Thu

Talking, as we where, about our colonial cousins I remember the time we went to Vilsec(spelling?) in the American zone when we had the M109. There are a of of memorable events relating to that visit, to mention a couple. Again, in keeping with the toilet theme, I remember the first time I visited their toilets and was confronted with an open-plan room, some 60ft long and lined with urinals. Down the centre of the room was a double row of thunder boxes, back to back and about 10" of space between 'sitters'. Not exactly conducive to a good 'strain' when everybody and his neighbour was watching you. Came in handy though if you had forgotten to bring reading material. No wonder there was a rush for the woods at the first gun position on every exercise.

Another eye-opener, for me, was the size of the portions of food they ate. On one visit to their PX, I ordered a 'T' bone steak and when asked if I wanted the 'works' and replied "yes please", couldn't figure out why I got the funny looks from everybody. I soon saw the reason why when my order was served. A 15" plate covered by a 32oz steak and mounded with chips, onion rings and salad. Enough to feed half the Bty! Needless to say, I didn't finish it and the next shock came with the price, $4.50 (about the equivalent then of DM15 or £1.25. In those days the yanks where paid in dollars, we where paid in DM (roughly 11 to the pound)) which made for some nifty little scams but that's another story.................
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Subject: hypnotist


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 15:24:49 02/23/05 Wed

When we where at the grand central hotel in belfast Iam sure that we had a show put on and it one of the acts was a hypnotist but not sure what he got us all to do but still have a problem when lin clicks her fingers i go into a trance and give her money. While at grand central Ido remember being interviewed by Gloria Hunniford for BFBS.
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Subject: Mistaken Identity or What Paddy?...


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 21:08:34 02/24/05 Thu

Belfast city centre tour comes to mind once again. Certain incidents that happened all those years ago suddenly reappear and you start to reflect what if!....There had been a bombing concerning some squaddies patrolling along a balcony of a block of flats,could have been the Divis flats where a bomb had been planted behind a mattress on the walk-way and was set off by remote deternation when the patrol were along-side,regardless fatalities were taken. Word had been passed down from intelligence that they wanted to interrogate two suspects that were seen legging it from the scene. Discriptions were circulated to all units in Belfast. I remember one of the suspects by discription given would have stood out like a sore thumb in a crowd. Tallish,long blood haired youth which had a stooped shoulder and walked with a limp. I thought at the time could'nt be many fitting that discription knocking about!....We were on mobile patrol just leaving the GCH going down Royal Avenue by the lights on the inter-section by Castle Street.I was in the back of the landrover and noted two youths coming out from Castle Street into Royal Avenue. The discription fitted one of the youths to perfection I could'nt believe it! They clocked me watching them and stopped,hesitated, and started to back track back up Castle Street.The vehicles could not turn right as we were committed to carry straight on up Royal Avenue.Consequently I dived out the back and gave pursuit. When they saw me coming after them they high-tailed it at speed. I remember chasing after them reciting the bullshit off the yellow and blue cards that was engrained in my head. I stopped about half way up and chambered a round up the spout,dropping to the kneeling position ready to fire. I had the bastard in my sights in that split second the crowd closed in by the Taxi-rank and shielded the bastards! I'm convinced to this day that the paddy I targeted was the one they were after. I was extremely pissed off that I had missed the opportunity of shooting this bastard. The way these two run was justification enough for me to believe that these paddy's were guilty as sin. All this happened in a matter of seconds but when you are in that position seems a hell of a lot longer. The adrenalin flowing through you makes your senses sharper somehow. On reflection,this many years after I'm glad that I did'nt pull the trigger for obvious reasons to do with the ramifications that could have occurred. I believe that I did another three tours of N.Ireland after this,but fortunately never came that close again to actually pulling that trigger!.....Such as life!....Wouldn't you say?...
Subject: David Perry


Author:
Terry Walton
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Date Posted: 19:37:14 02/24/05 Thu

Sorry to break up the humour, but I received a letter off the wife of a former member of the battery.His name is David Perry,the letter was informing me that David passed away in October after a long illness.David attended the very first reunion, and the third.He served with the battery from 1949-1951. He also was a member of 210 Battery 104 Regt(V) at one time, I believe that he was BC,
so he never forgot his roots. I do realize that it is a little late, but I have sent condolences to the lady on behalf of all our members, and have stated that if we are lucky enough to get our next grant she will be most welcome to attend that event. Obviously it has taken this lady a lot of time and strength to write.If there are any members out there who served with David, and would like to contact his wife, please contact me via my e-mail address I thankyou for your time. Terry
Subject: Toilet humour


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 20:58:42 02/23/05 Wed

Haaaaaaa compo! Lovely stuff. One of my all time favourite meals, even today, is stew. Any type of meat, without meat, whatever but I can't eat it without adding a bit of the old curry powder, much to my wifes disgust. When we were first married, she would experiment with all sorts of spices and herbs, in an attempt to impress me with her culinary skills and I would come along and dump a couple of spoonfuls of curry powder in it, so now she just throws the veg and meat in a pot and I do the honours with the magic powder and I'm as happy as a pig in s**t (which I sometimes am, literally, if I overdo the powder!).

The only ingredient of compo I never got a taste for was the mashed potato powder (pom?). I hated the stuff. Always seemed to have the same consistency and taste of wallpaper paste! I bet I could take you to areas of the various ranges where we buried whole cartons of the stuff. The only people I ever knew who liked the stuff was my landlord and his family in Badd Westernkotten. They couldn't get enough of it and many a time I paid my rent in a case of pom and a jar of Nescafe!

Dispite the legendary properties of compo as a binding agent and, I remember not going for a pony for two weeks was the norm, then creating a bio hazard of epic proportions, it never seemed to stop us from having to "pick up thy shovel and go yonder". I remember also one of the pranks we would pull on such poor unfortunates, like sneaking up behind them and sliding a shovel under their bum so they shat on the shovel and then 'disappearing' the evidence. Naturally, as one did, after wiping and in the process of pulling up ones kecks, you look, with no uncertain pride, to witness the end result of the 2 hours of hard labour you had just gone through to birth your 9lb log, to be confronted with a blank space, nothing, nada! How can that be possible? Then, just as you are starting to think you are a section 8, you see them, over on the guns, pissing themselves with laughter. Now that's toilet humour!
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Subject: The WRAC (God Bless them)


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Wes
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Date Posted: 14:32:33 02/24/05 Thu

A time when the girls use to hang around the wog shop area, the RSM band them, the 2i/c went mad, and invited them back, as he was seeing one of them, the RSM came down blow his top, but could not do alot as the 2i/c was cuddled up to his bit.
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Subject: GCH Belfast


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Wes
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Date Posted: 14:26:45 02/24/05 Thu

Who remembers when the CO lost his pistol in Belfast, The RE search team was called in, A member of the Regiment who had not long been on CO's orders nicked it and taped under his desk chair.
Subject: "If you go down to the woods today"


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 10:54:06 02/24/05 Thu

"Your in for a big Surprise!"....or so,the song goes!. This happened when we were first posted to Fallingbostel in around 1971. Being that we were new to the 'Big Guns'the 'Powers that Be'decided to send the Gun-subs out to the Range area for a spot of 'Familiarization Training'for about three days. So there we were going through the motions bumming around on these steel Monster's. During the day going through all the drills doing 'Dry-firing etc..And also having a 'Cabbie'driving these long barrelled beast's. At night after the senior ranks buggered off back to camp we were left up to our own device's!...Well that only mean't one thing!....Party Time. We used to stash the booze in the well of the Gun.We had come prepared to enjoy ourselves. The Krauts had kindly left stacks of logs to the side of the tracks,so we helped ourselves as you would do!..Time rolled on...Party was going great guns,everybody getting merrily 'pissed' around a blazing log fire!....We noticed some movement about two hundred metres up the track. There was this bunch of Dutch MP's reversing this 'Honnest John' into a tactical 'Hide'in the same bloody wood that we were in!.....Strange we thought! These guys playing soldiers and us lot getting pissed around a roaring log fire. The cheeky bastards even came over and asked us "What were we doing there?".....Didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out!....Another sereal situation,one of many you might say!........
Subject: Belfast


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Derek Melia
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Date Posted: 17:30:12 02/23/05 Wed

Tony,
I remember the show you where on about and the name of the
hypnotist was Edwin Heath, Taff Gillette from 49 Bty sang he had a great voice but most Welshmen do,I was also on the
show with Gloria Honeyforde and Ihad a record played for
Jeanette (Love Hurts) by Jim Capaldi,Funny how these things come back to you.
derek.
Subject: Cordite and Compo'and 'Egg Banjo's'.


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:10:47 02/23/05 Wed

Well we have drank it,shagged it,now I suppose its time to talk about eating it!....Delia Smith wouldn't cook the same way that we used to do in the field. Hygiene was never top of the list when cooking for a Gun-sub!...Take one large 'Dixie'and throw every conceivable item of 'Compo'rations that you could lay your hands on into it and heat!..till it looked like lumpy concrete. One of the lads didn't like what he called 'Commanche food',so he always had first dig into the pot!...Then the magic ingrediant was added 'Madras Curry Powder'....Guarantee'd to put a smile on your arse! The Compo used to bung you up! The Cordite,when you had been 'Live-firing'used to turn your 'turds'into black beasties.Teeth marks in the shit-house door on your return off exercise! Congratulations Gunner!....you have just given birth to a nine pound turd!...No pain,no gain you could say!.....Another recollection I have concerns 'Egg Banjo's'. I only have to smell eggs cooking to imagine either being on scheme or in N.Ireland. Strange but true!...In the field the QM's or REME lads used to have a scam flogging 'Egg Banjo's to the lads. In N.Ireland the 'Choogies'used to do the same! I suppose the connection between 'Egg Banjo's'and the smell of Cordite,and rotten eggs have some significance in this I think! What say you?........
Subject: Trips of nostalgia


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:16:26 02/22/05 Tue

Tony, I am sorry to say that Fally was not a very memorable posting for me, as it was not long after we got there that I left the Bty. Now, Lippstadt, that's a different kettle of fish. Seriously though, due to health problems and the, subsequent, serious, shortage of readies, I don't think I could even stretch to a long weekend (much as I would love to). A few years ago might have been another story but I think I've left it a bit too late now. That's not to say that I bet you get a good response from others and, in that respect, I hope you manage to organise a great trip. Take lots of 'piccies' and get them onto this site or to Derek for his CDs, for those of us not able to go.

I know I have been a bit quiet on the board of late, I have been enjoying, enormously, Jims tales of his exploits, together with others. Most of his adventures were just a bit after my own time and I don't recognise a lot of the characters he describes but there are a few I do remember, if only vaguely. A lot of the situations he describes are very familiar though and, it should be a sad indictment that, we squaddies are so base, in that, our appetites can be satisfied so easily by drinking it, shagging it or eating it (not necessarily in that order) but, when the time comes to shove, there isn't a better bunch of lads I would rather have with me. Speak to you all again soon.
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Subject: Fally and beyond


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 10:37:19 02/22/05 Tue

Does anyone fancy a trip to fally for old time sake.
Subject: 42 Regt PHOTOS and OTHER MEMORABILIA


Author:
jimmcdougall
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Date Posted: 19:13:32 02/20/05 Sun

PHOTOS & OTHER MEMORABILIA

As the official Photo Custodian of the 42 Regt RA Old Comrades Association, I am always on the lookout for new material, not only photographs, but other relevant printed matter such as documents, papers, forms, certificates, programmes, menus, whatever.

The quality doesn’t matter as I can usually enhance things no matter what state they’re in. Material from the period is particularly desirable, but more recent stuff is also welcome.

I’d prefer sight of the originals, but email attachments are perfectly acceptable. If sending originals I would recommend Recorded Delivery. I promise to take great care of everything, and scan and return without delay – usually next day.

Whatever is sent, please provide as much information as possible – who? where? when? occasion? whatever, either written on the back or on a separate sheet of paper.

I maintain a running album of 42 Regt photos on Webshots, where 24 different photos are featured each week. To view, just send me your email address and I’ll arrange for Webshots to send an invitation.

A CD-R of nearly 3,000 photos is available, price £5.00 incl P&P, also the following VCDs (playable on most DVD players) each with 100 photos and backing music, £2.50 incl P&P: BAOR 1940s-50s; BAOR 1960s; Cyprus 1960-62; Libya 1960-62; Lippstadt 1960s; N. Ireland 1970s; Crewe Reunion 2003; Malton Reunion 2004.

Jim McDougall
Tel: 01505-683169
jimmcdougall@members.v21.co.uk
(Address on request or from Mick Mortimer)
Subject: folk club part 2


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 12:08:28 02/18/05 Fri

Today my darling wife Lin[who I met at david bowie concert in the cornbin in devizes 35yrs ago] thrust into my hand a forces folk mag from fally with the autograph of Hamish Imlack on it. The folk club was held monthly at Gasthans Altenpost which I belive was on the range road.Who use to run the battery bar in fally? In my drinks cabinet I have one or two bottles of asbach and dujardin brandy still have the taste for them after all these years. I remember after on good session on the brandy I had server stomach pains went to m.o he asked what i drank isaid brandy and coke he replied stop drinking the coke.
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Subject: WHERE DID YOU GET TO


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DAVE MATTHEWS
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Date Posted: 11:38:58 02/15/05 Tue

HEY TONY I WENT BACK DOWN THE BEAR THE NEXT NIGHT TO SEE YOU WHERE WERE YOU
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Subject: ' The Dance of the Flaming Arse-holes'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 15:12:05 02/17/05 Thu

Something that Terry said to me regarding Fieldy and pile-cream!...Reminded me of another way to relieve 'piles'. This way definately not reccommended!...Take a bunch of inebriated squaddies for example, at a Rugby club bash or a Battery 'piss up'.Those willing to participate in proforming 'Zulu Warriors'in front of possibly a mixed audience. Its bloody amazing what guys will do for the sake of entertainment!..stripping right down to stark bollock naked status. Then give these volunteer's more beer because the situation is going to heat up somewhat!...Insert rolled up newspaper between the cheeks of their arse's then light the offending items and stand back and watch the fun! The first guy to drink his beer and balance the empty bottle or glass on his head is the winner and pleads with the on looker's to extinguish the proverbial flames that are licking around his arse-hole burning pubic hairs and the little brown men on swings. They douse the flames with more beer. Spirits are not advisable to be used,unless of course you don't like the bugger in question! Only kidding!....The ladies used to really get a kick out of this particular exhibition. Though, I don't think it would go down well on a Military Tattoo somehow!....I first saw this proformed in Canada whilst drinking with some boy's from the Para's. I've even participated myself in this ritual on a number of occassions in the past. Days later still feeling sore,and walking like I had just got off a horse! John Wayne syndrome some might say!....
Subject: Those 'Brummie' Gun-bunnies


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 15:07:25 02/16/05 Wed

The Battery of that time had many Characters from the Walsall and black country area,which we refered too as 'Brummies'. Some I have already mentioned, others such as 'Monkey'Owen,Harry Hinton,Pete Waite,and of course the one and only Richie Fieldhouse. Keith Passant said to me that I've mentioned 'Andy Five'...but nothing about Richie! Well,I would like to think that those who knew this extraordinary character would be able to explain better than I ever could what made this guy stand out from the rest of us! Memmories of this unique,and somewhat disgusting individual that could make you throw-up one minute and the next, have you rolling about on the floor in hysterical laughter. Richie,loved to shock people! His wit and charm was exeptional! Everybody who knew Richie has a story or a memory that is rememberance enough. I could not put into words just how much we that knew him,miss this bugger that enriched our lives at that specific time.Where is he now?....Last heard of, in or around the Colchester area. Would be greatful for any information as to this guy that anybody can obtain as would like to get him to the next Reunion if at all possible. So far we have drawn a blank! But are still looking for him and other's that have apparently disappeared without trace...Any help will be greatfully received.....Contact Terry Walton via this site.
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Subject: Local Bars


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Wes
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Date Posted: 20:31:39 02/14/05 Mon

Who remembers the X bar and the Club 4 in Walsroder.
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Subject: Old Comrade


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Norman Harris
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Date Posted: 20:29:28 02/14/05 Mon

Sorry I could not make make it to the reunion in 2004. Trust me I will be there in 2006, Terry and Wes thanks for keeping us friends united, would love to here from anyone of my vintage, Cooney, Cotton, Brownson, etc, etc. Plus any of my MT posse, CP crew, in Lippi and the fab E crew from Fally and Gutersloh.

Cheers
Norman (Nis) Harris
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Subject: fally folk club


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 17:51:25 02/14/05 Mon

anyone out there willing to admit going to the folk club to see The McCalmans,The Wurzels,Ralph Mctell come on and be honest.
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Subject: 'The Customs & Excise Airport Bash'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:10:51 02/14/05 Mon

I remember this one time that we came back from a tour of N.Ireland,back to Fallingbostel. We were all due to go on leave sometime just before the Christmas holiday period. We were due to fly into Luton Airport. The plane couldn't land due to the area being fog bound,so we were diverted to Birmingham,due to all other London Airports being overloaded once again due to the weather conditions. We landed and proceeded through to Customs with our luggage.
The Customs officers knew where we had come from and decided to check everybodies baggage knowing that we would be over and above the duty-free limit for booze and cigarette's. The situation began to get well out of order when they started to confiscate the excess booty from us as we refused point blank to cough up the cash. The Rupert in charge on the flight stepped in and tried to reason with these bastards,but they were not willing to compromise!....The Police were called and we were held in the Customs area.The Police arrived in force but did not enter. They basically stated unless a 'Riot'ensued they could not get involved due to the fact as we had not cleared Customs we were technically not offically in the UK!...The Rupert, the clever bugger suggested that we stay put in the Customs area till the coaches arrived from Luton to take us back down the motorway to London. He knew that we had a long wait due to the weather conditions.
We clicked on being in this area allowed us to reclaim the goods that the bloody Customs had confiscated from us, and as long as we drank the contents in this specified area then Customs couldn't do a dam thing about it!.....which really 'pissed'them off!...We passed the bottles around and proceded to have a bit of a party. A surreal situation that I have never come across since. By the time the coaches arrived we had consummed majority of the spirits,the remainder was poured down one of the sinks. We were escorted onto the coaches by the Police,most of us staggering but satisfied that we had got one over on those bloody bastards of Customs & Excise. Those of us who were there can substanciate the above happening....with content! I don't think the same situation could happen today?.....Do you?
Subject: Disillusionment?


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:36:11 02/12/05 Sat

Jim, I recon that everybody who served/serves a decade, or more, in the Army or, for that matter, in any job gets to a point where they say to themselves "This isn't the same mob I joined!" Nothing stays the same. We get comfortable with routine and feel safe with the "tried and trusted methods". At various times of our lives, we have to make 'life changing' decisions and I think we sometimes justify these decisions by using that revelation. One of the drawbacks of getting older, and there are a few! is the increase in resistance to change. We recognise, in this basic human failing, the inexorable march of time and our heightened awareness of our own mortality. Friggin hell, this is getting a bit deep!

You say that, for you, the change was in the early eighties but I recon it was in the early seventies. My moment of revelation came to me in 1972, in N.I. I don't mean to speak ill of the dead but a young Dave Quinn was my nemesis. In one incident where I ordered him to a task and he told me to F**K OFF, in front of the section, a sharp exchange of colourful words lead me to sticking him on a charge, in the process of which, he got off and I got fined a months wages for swearing at him. "The writing was on the wall". OK! I didn't immediately stick in my notice but this incident combined with others, later and not in my control, all contributed to my decision to call it a day, which I did in 1974.

It must be the same for each generation. I would imagine the old 'sweats' of the early sixties said exactly the same when they where discouraged from taking us nigs round the back and giving us a pasting to make us toe the line, though some of them still hadn't been persuaded by the time I joined! but you see what I'm getting at? Also, as technology came to play a bigger and bigger part in the more sophisticated equipment we where operating, I suppose the tolerance for the influence of alcohol got less and less, especially on op's. Having said that, the impression that I get of todays young soldiers makes me think they could see any of us under the table, so I don't think much has changed in that respect.
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Subject: 'The Camp Twins'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 10:40:23 02/09/05 Wed

Another couple of names that come to mind concerning our time in Fally are Ray Lamb and Johnny West from 'D'Troop.
Ray was the Battery Clerk at the time before or maybe after, I believe Glen Pickering. Both were 'rather camp' as to what I can remember also strange in a funny sort of way. Eccentric like Jimmy Worwood and his 'Star-Gazing'antic's. Both could be extremely funny at times especially when they had been on the'Piss'....Which was frequent! Character's they most certainly were. Johnny Gutteridge was another 'Piss-head' along with a man who unfortunatly is no longer with us....a great Character and friend who is sadly missed by those who knew him....I refer to Gnr 'Daddy Mac'McDonald.
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Subject: 'The Parting Glass'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:37:50 02/12/05 Sat

I remember that everything done in the Army was always done over a drink.Whether you were on exercise or back in barracks.'Happy Hour'was the time when if you had a problem then you could confront the person over a drink and get it sorted.Rank was left outside the door.You could learn more about somebody over a drink than proberbly someone who had known them all there lives! The comradeship in those days was never surpassed. I think the Army began to change around the begining of the eight'ies...The 'drinking culture'was starting to be outlawed by 'The Power's that Be'.Just like Smoking is frowned upon in today's society! I can remember my last tour of BAOR in Lippstadt. Going on exercise with the 'scallies'lined up on a parade square in front of the 432's with all our kit,ready to go.This Rupert checking through our kit,finds a four pack of beer in one of the lads packs and doubles the guy down to the 'Nick'.There was your's truely standing there with two water bottles on his webbing with neat spirits in them. Bloody-Hell, I thought!....This is'ent the Army that I joined! Fortunately the Rupert had made his point!From that day on I knew that my day's in the Army were numbered. The good old days were finished!.........What say you?....
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Subject: Names from the past


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Wes
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Date Posted: 22:38:35 02/09/05 Wed

Now then, "C" Troop had many a great Troop Commander, who remembers LT Piper RA. I think he must hold the record for extra duties. And who remembers LT Cook, "D" Troop, well the last info we had on him he was a Lt Col??
I remember the times Mr Piper use to come around the blocks at night, to see if he could tag along with the single lads on the nights out.
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Subject: room mate


Author:
tony grant
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Date Posted: 14:05:28 02/13/05 Sun

I keep seeing mick stinson name I know we shared the same room and many drinks,also mick witnessed geoff vickers drinking the contents of the glass thah had my bubble in it,bubblehead was one of many nick names i had aggro was a another.back to the beginning it would be great to be able to contact mick anyone help. PS james brown bar in fally does anyone remember maggie bent she was married to a sgt in 3rtr she worked in our dining room in fally i think a certain mr martin knew her?.
Subject: 'Drinking' and Tours of Duty.


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 20:27:48 02/12/05 Sat

Following on from what Terry has said in reply. N.Ireland tours of duty,due to the fact they were'Active Service'or 'Policing Actions'incidenterly so was Vietnam! Where we got fifty-pence extra a day and any amount of 'Comfy-bum'bog paper.Better than the Army crap-paper. The Army boxed clever in them days in giving the lads a bit of luxury,or was it for when the shit hit the fan?....
Booze allowance was two cans of beer per day what I can remember. I can't say that I ever saw any of our lads pissed on the streets. They would'nt dare! We all had too much to loose if our reactions were impaired by alcohol.
The serious drinking was done off duty only. I can remember one tour in particular,in a place called Bally-Kinnler. About the time 'Internment' kicked off in N.Ireland. Had some bloody marvallous nights sitting around tables with the pyramid's of empty beer cans singing like our lives depended on it!...in direct competition with the 'Tick-Tock' Battery or Chayter's seventh Cavalry. Those were the days!....What say you?,,,,,
Subject: Blind guy!


Author:
dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:51:59 02/11/05 Fri

An almost blind guy walked into a sexy lingerie shop to purchase their most see-through item for his wife. After receiving some help from the store clerk, he bought a lace teddy for $600 and brought it home for his wife to try on. She took it upstairs and realized that it didn't quite fit. But, she figured, since it's supposed to be see-through and since he's almost blind, she might as well wear nothing at all. So she came downstairs completely naked.

"Huh," said the old man, hugging her. "For the amount I paid, they could've at least ironed the damn thing."
Subject: whats his name


Author:
tony grant
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Date Posted: 08:00:44 02/11/05 Fri

When I returned to fally after my holiday in m.c.t.c there was a young lad in my room I think his name was Gnr Francis I know he played rugby does anyone remember him or am I going la la.Did paddy Phillips get sent home from a canoe because he could not fit in the canoe true or myth.
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Subject: Stu Lillie


Author:
Ray Edge
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Date Posted: 22:20:44 02/08/05 Tue

I remember Stu Lillie from Devizes he was an ACC. cook.
I was a regimental cook, and Cpl Alan Wakeman was also a cook as was Cpl Parker. There was also a S.SGT BUT HIS NAME ESCAPES ME AT THE MOMENT.
Does anyone remeber me.
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Subject: 'The Medicine Hat Blues'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 11:43:17 02/10/05 Thu

I remember in Fally that I got the opportunity to go to Canada on attachment to a Battle-Group with 49 Regt from Hohnne as a AIG's driver. Must admitt that travel does broaden the mind. To all the lads from the Battery who have been over there,do any of you remember a certain Night-club in Medicine Hat called 'The Ming Tree'?.I've frequented many watering-holes and bars over the years,but none like this particular establishment!...Firstly,it had the longest Bar that I ever saw!...Secondly covering the lenght of the wall behind the bar was every conceivable bottle of spirits you could name from malt whiskies to moon-shine.I mean every brand imaginable!....It was like putting a small boy in a sweety-shop.They said that if they had'nt got it...then you could drink that night for free! For the time that I spent there,I did try but was unsucessful in my quest.What a bloody marvallous place,an Alcoholic's paradise! Anyway one particular night when I was there I staggered out about two o'clock in the morning and decided to cross the road. Nothing was about,so I went about my way. All of a sudden this police car comes hurling round the corner and stops in front of me! This Mountie gets out, and tell's me to freeze and spread them! I was gob-smacked!...Next thing I was spread over the bonnet in the Jesus and mary stress position and frisked. He found my I.D.card and says to this RMP with him.."O,he is one of yours"....Bastards done me for'Jay-walking'...And fines me on the spot!So I cough's up the cash and they decide to give me a lift back to Camp which is about 38Kms away. Brilliant, I thought!....The fine was less than the Cab fare!...When I told the lads they all decided to play the same ploy. What a cushy number Canada was. You could live comfortable on the LOA and bank your wages!...What a place!Anybody else got any stories about their time spent over there?......
Subject: N.Ireland Tour -Belfast City Centre


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:47:50 02/09/05 Wed

I remember meeting Johnny Adams at the Reunion at Walsall and reminded him of the specific incident that occurred while we were together on the specific tour so many years ago of Belfast. Based at the 'Grand Central Hotel' on Royal Avenue. We were on a 'snap'VCP in College street North. Pulling in Cars at random. We pulled up this Austin 1800 and proceeded to go through the motions of the 'Search procedures'Checking Documention,Registration etc...Bonnet,boot,and internal search of said Vehicle. Noted apart from the driver there was two passengers on board. Both youths about 16-17 years of age. I was talking to the driver and noted Johnny asking youth in front to step out of vehicle. He hesitated, seemed reluctant to get out of the car! Johnny had to drag him out. I then told youth sitting in back to join his buddy against the wall!
I then walked around the back of the car,noted that this youth had got out of the car,but was leaning into the back seat suspiciously I grabbed youth and threw him against the wall. On looking on back seat could see a Sten-Gun with working parts pulled back and a magazine of 9mm ready to clip on to weapon in question! Bloody Hell!...I thought!
Apparently the butt of the weapon had dropped when Johnny had dragged the youth from the front seat out!Back-up was summoned to arrest these youths. To this day I am still convinced that these youths were not as they stated on the Court case some months later that they were Courier's!Reason because ,as I told the RUC, Since when do Courier's travel with the working parts back on a weapon! A valid point as far as I was concerned! I still consider the possible consequences that could have occurred if I had been slower in not throwing that youth against that wall.Neither of us was carrying pistols at that time.....Make's you think !....Does'nt it just!....

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Apparently when John had dragged the youth in front
Subject: VCD Slide Shows


Author:
Jim McDougall
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Date Posted: 20:23:11 02/08/05 Tue

I've produced a series of VCDs (Video Compact Discs) featuring photo slide shows of people and events from 42 Regt's past. Each disc has 100 or so photos with background music; they can be viewed on PCs and most DVD players. Titles are (*) BAOR 1940s-50s (*) BAOR 1960s (*) Lippstadt 1960s (*) Cyprus 1960-62 (*) Libya 1960-62 (*) N. Ireland 1970s (*) 18/68 Crewe Reunion 2003 (*) 42 Malton Reunion 2004. They're £2.50 each incl P&P, payment on receipt of discs, please.
Subject: Name from the past


Author:
Jim Murray
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Date Posted: 15:34:50 02/08/05 Tue

Hiya Wes , I remember Sgt Derek Neighbour , you are right
I used to drive him our job on excercise was Battery guide.
He was a decent chap we got on well together. Somebody else
I drove for was Capt Pete Rose he was a great character.I
was his driver in Canada it turned out to be six weeks holiday , happy days. Anyway mate lets change the subject I
remember Buster that little bugger still owes us both a
mess tin . Do you know what became of him ????.All the best
in Bulgaria I hope it all goes well.
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Subject: Becoming 'Mutt & Jeff'


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:03:35 02/08/05 Tue

Leading on from the 25 Pdr 'Last Shoot in BAOR'.Unbeknown to me at the time. I started to develop what you could commonly call 'Gunner-ear'...No not Gonorrhoea! .....that anti -social disease so to speak!....I only found out some years later the extent of the Deafness in the one ear. The Gunner's Disease is what the quack called it!...So,basically my career on the Guns had finished as far as the Army was concerned!...I had to be content that the only 'banging' I was allowed to participate in would be on one female or another. Dry-Firing depending on your point of view! Only consulation being that a fair-few of us Gun-bunnies did develope this sympton over the years. You only have to put a number of old Gun-bunnies in a room together to understand this. They only shout for more bloody beer.They have a tendancy to go a bit 'Mutt& Jeff' when asked "Who's round is it?"......So there is a positive side to having 'The Gunners Disease' .....after all! Don't you think?........
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Subject: Memorable moments


Author:
David Parker
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Date Posted: 21:28:18 02/07/05 Mon

Jim, there where many 'memorable' times that I have had the honour of being witness to, a lot of them whilst serving in this Bty. For the better part of my 9 years with the Bty I was a Signaler and my main position was in the CP but, for a time, I did a stint at the 'sharp-end' with the OP. The most memorable event I can recall was, whilst with the OP, I saw a Divisional Shoot. I don't remember how many guns that involved but it was a LOT! Nothing spectacular during the ranging but when they 'fired for effect', Oh! MY GIDDY AUNT! The noise of all those shells going in was absolutely mind numbing and the sight and sound of the impacts was just unbelievable. A whole grid square totally obliterated. You had to wonder just HOW in all hell, some people, during the wars, managed to survive these barrages at all? Some time later, we where allowed nearer to the impact area and it was like a ploughed field, not an inch of earth left untouched. Un-bloody-believable.
Subject: Driving test


Author:
Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 20:25:36 02/07/05 Mon

As I mentioned earlier, my driving test, taken whilst we where in Devizes, was a rare experience. I had learned to drive whilst a boy soldier and too young to actually own a driving license. We used to drive Austin 1 tonners, endlessly, around the camp (Bramcote being an old Fleet Air Arm Airfield and private property) hence, no need for a provisional, until we turned 17 and where let out onto the roads, having obtained the said provisional. One quick aside here, before I get on with the main story. Our instructors where civvies and one day I was instructed to "pull over, where that policeman is standing, up ahead!". Being very conscious of the fact that a 'Bobby' was watching my every move, I checked my mirrors, signaled, checked my mirrors and pulled up at the exact spot where the policeman stood, in, what I thought, was a textbook manoeuvre. Because we where so high up in the cab of the 1 tonner, I could only see the top of the helmet of the bobby but I heard him thump the door of the instructor and, when he wound down his window, I heard "Good bit of driving son! now move this wagon off my bloody foot!". I had driven too close to the verge of the road, which had no kerbstones and, lucky for me and the policeman was just grass, and parked on his foot, which had sunk into the, rain softened, ground.

Back to Devizes. Our BSM or maybe a TSM at that time was a WOII, who's name escapes me at this time but I think was Sheldon?, was the Regimental Testing Officer. He drove one of those big Citroen cars with the hydrolastic suspension! I had been pestering him to take me on a test for ages, with the idea that he would give me a date and I could scrounge some driving time from Ken Meffan to brush up on my driving skills. On this particular day, he was going off to Salisbury to collect his new car, and decided to kill two birds with one stone, shut me up and solve his transport problems in one. Telling me to report back to him with one Landrover (LWB, for the use of) and another, qualified driver to accompany me back from Salisbury, in fifteen minutes and off we'd go! Well, I was totally unprepared and in one hell of a flap. I did just about everything wrong, including stalling three times before we had even got to the camp gates and I was convinced I had failed. He pulled me over to the side of the road and told me to "settle down, the test doesn't start until we leave the camp" and he knows I can do it. To cut a long story short, I drove him all the way to Salisbury without incident and when we got there he told me I had passed! I was to drive back to camp and await his return when he would test my three point turn before passing over my 'pink slip'. Now this is the funny bit. Can you remember the Bty Office and the road outside it? Standing on the veranda of the Bty Office, the road was quite narrow but at the end of it, to our right, where the road joined another road that passed in front of, I think the gun sheds, it opened up a bit. With the instruction to "drive along the road for a bit, then execute a three point turn so that you are facing the opposite direction" the WOII went inside the Bty Office!! So I drove to the end of the road, executed a neat 'U' turn where the road was wide enough and drove back to the Bty Office just as he came back out! Whether this was his intention or not, he congratulated me again and handed over my 'pink slip', much to my great delight.
Subject: The 25 Pdr 'Ten Minute Farewell to BAOR'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 20:10:12 02/07/05 Mon

I remember very vividly the last time I saw the 25 Pounder Gun in action,so to speak. We had the Honnor to be the last Regiment to Fire this marvellous piece of equipment in the British Army. It has stayed with me for all these years. I thorought it about time to put it to rest,so to speak. The 'Power's that Be' wanted us to use up the surplus Ammunition designated for these Guns. As they were going to flog these Guns to the Indian Army.
We were on the Ranges for only one complete Day to acchieve this Aim!
We spent most of the day sitting on our arses's doing only
one or two Fire Missions,or so it seemed!...The Ranges were due to close at 1600hrs, The time was clocking on...
And there we were,bloody loads of Ammo' stockpiled !...The time was running out. At 1550hrs we got the Order to 'Expend Ammunition'.....Pandemonium ensured on the position. Gun-bunnies took their positions, and all CP and all available bod's were sent forward to assist in 'Bombing -up'....Really was something to see! You could immagine the atmosphere,as the time was against us.Everybody working as one. The number 'Ones' ordering Load..Lay..Fire!...One up the Breech,One in the Air,and One impacting on the Target Area! Gun -bunnies doing the 'Business'...excellent! "Like Sex to those Artillery guys"....I myself have never felt anything like this feeling since....Gave us an inkling what it must have been like at El Alamein for those long forgotten Gunner's. This is what Gunnery was all about! I just wish that I could express my feeling's better. Guy's, it was Magic,to be sure! The lads at the OP end said it was something else ....Gunnery after that was never the same for me!.....
Those who were there would proberbly understand what I mean't!........Don't think anybody else could?....DO YOU?
Subject: Charecters


Author:
Derek Melia
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Date Posted: 20:00:11 02/06/05 Sun

Jim,
Re your message about Sid he was called Sid (TAFF) Davies,
He married a German girl and SETTLED in Fally we heard he did well for himself and as far as we know is still there
but we could check with Clink Rowlands or Gle Pickering,
Who remembers Sammy HOUGHTON, he spent most of his service stood in front of the radiators in the block because he said it was too cold.Who remembers hiring cars in devizes to get home at weekends and who can say they honestly paid for petrol? whats the statute if limitations could we still be charged?.
Derek Melia.
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Subject: 'Dinkies and Pinkies'


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Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 14:46:24 02/07/05 Mon

Following on from what DP has said about landrovers. I can remember a time in Fally when for some apparent reason I was let loose behind the wheel of the 110. I must admitt that I did drive like a crazy-bastard. I would'nt so much as drive it,as aim the bloody thing in the general direction and put my foot down on the gas-peddle. Anyway the'Powers that Be' decided I needed pulling back into line before I became a 'Kamakazi pilot'...So,yours truely had to go on a Re-test to kerb my irratic and so called dangerous driving. They put me behind the wheel with 'Big Ron Havenhand' as a stablizing influence. Him sitting there with a starting handle in his huge paw of his hand ready to inflict a good sound tap across my kneecaps for any infringement that I was guilty of. Regardless that seemed to do the trick. I would'nt say that it cured me of all my bad habits,but it certainly slowed me down somewhat....Which brings me onto another point concerning the 'Double Standards' that were so evident in them days!
Especially to do with the Rank structure for example ...
If an Officer got totally blitz'ed and proformed. It would be judged as 'High Spirits'. Whereas if a Gun-bunny did the same he was classed as being an Animal!....The punishment was always more servere for the ordinary Rank than the Rupert. I was always convinced that the Officer's should lead by example! Never mind the Bullshit that Rank has it's privileges. In my opinion the Officer should have received more punishment than the lower Rank to emphassis the need for example....as was'nt he supposed to be the leader of men?....What do you think?...........
Subject: Car hire


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Dave Parker
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Date Posted: 21:45:43 02/06/05 Sun

Derek, I remember hiring a car in Devizes. I had not long passed my driving test, that's a story in itself, and I hired a Mk3 Cortina Estate from a garage not far from the camp. On the Friday afternoon I went to collect the car, in working dress, as it was about three o'clock and I wanted to get away as early as possible for the week-end. Did the business in the office and the guy went to fetch the car and put it on the pumps, ready for me to drive away. OK so far! The problem was that I had only ever driven Land Rovers and the odd 'cabby' in a Saracen or Ferret, and was totally unprepared for the instant response of a new, civvy car. To make matters worse, I was wearing boots DMS and couldn't feel the accelerator pedal at all, it was that light! So, in I jumps, starts up and am sitting there revving the bullocks out of this lovely, shiny, red, NEW car. Out of the corner of my eye, I see this rental manager go white as a sheet and start to have second thought about this particular rental and, before he can come out and change his mind, I'm gone. From the garage to the traffic lights, where I had to turn left for the camp, was approx a hundred and fifty yards and, I swear, by the time I hit the lights I was doing fifty mph in first gear after laying down a trail of rubber for the best part of that distance. I absolutely crapped myself. Because of the boots and the softness of the operation of the pedals, I could hardly feel the accelerator, brake or clutch and I was stomping on them as you would do with a Landy! It took a couple of miles and a good few minutes for me to get the feel right, which I did, but not before giving the poor car a bit of stick! When I took it back on the Monday morning they went over it with a fine tooth comb and where astounded that there wasn't a scratch on it! So was I.
Subject: chinese resturant


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tony grant
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Date Posted: 16:00:58 02/06/05 Sun

Jim I think the chinese we left rather quickly was the one opposite the cinema and i think Dick called into question the chefs abillity to cook and i don't think we payed.another myth i seem to remember is that the barrack blocks in fally had large coal bunkers and for one vip visit the coal was painted white, does anyone remember a cook from lippy and devizes called stu lillie well he is in contact.
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Subject: A name from the past


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Wes
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Date Posted: 00:11:07 02/06/05 Sun

Who remembers Sgt Derek Neighbour, Jimmy Murray use to be his driver. Can not remember what job he did, was it Tara Sgt??.
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Subject: Another Blast from the Past.


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 13:49:58 02/06/05 Sun

Another Name mentioned via Tony Grant was Dick Moore commonly known as 'Pinky' in Devizes. A big man and a Rugby player to boot! I vaguely remember a certain pub-crawl around the local watering holes in the town in question. Somehow majority of the lads ended up in a Chinese Restaurant. I remember 'Pinky'being there! Close by, being two Chinese waiters jabbering away in their sing-song language to each other. Did'nt have a clue what they
were chuntering on about. I could see Dick's ears pick up and I could see him listening intently to their conversation. When eventually one of the waiters approached our table Dick suddenly spouted something to this Chink in fluent Cantonese. The Chink became very aggrieved as to what Dick had said to him and started to jabber on getting very wound up indeed! The kitchen door swung open and a massive Chinese chef stood in the doorway with the biggest meat-cleaver in his hand I had ever seen!
I thorought, O'fuck we'll in for the Chop!....Suddenly we were bundled out of the place with not so much as a by your leave...Bloody charming way to end up! To this day have never found out what indeed, did Dick say to this Chink to warrant such a reaction!.... Happy Days indeed..Can anybody remember what 'The Chinese Salute' was? For those who worked on the Guns,an easy-peasy question!.....Give you a clue,something to do with the dangerous end of the barrel......I remember some bit of 'Totty' telling me that Guns were like Sex to you Artillery Guys......Don't know what she mean't.....Do you?
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Subject: Another Name from the Past.


Author:
Jim Martin
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Date Posted: 12:05:12 02/06/05 Sun

Can anybody remember 'Servicing-bay Sid?'....Another character from our days in Fallingbostel! Can't remember his Surname..Will have to consult with the'Oracle' Derek Melia as to the identity of this individual! Believe he married a local Frauleine from the area?....Just trying to fill in some blanks regarding certain times and places,and of course faces that were around during those memorable days of our youth! Time for another cylindrical tube of Joy!......Here's to killing off more brain-cells....
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