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[> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- BTayor, 03:49:18 01/26/03 Sun

Are the designers working for free? Is the engineer working for free? And is ect ect working for free? If not, you can well figure someone is expecting to profit, get richer by this plan?

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[> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- Harvey, 04:06:22 01/26/03 Sun

This project is already hosed but if the giant lava lamp did get built I suspect they would need to use the city fire truck to daily hose off the million bugs that are smashed all over the lava globe. Takes City money to pull a fire truck.

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[> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- jerryxx23, 04:27:33 01/28/03 Tue

The Lava Crew will have to hire the City Crew. They will need a sanitary engineer wagon to pick up all the dead birds in the street after they crash into the towering glass lava lamp.

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[> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- Toby, 04:18:15 01/26/03 Sun

re seeking free money. Who ever said grant money is free money, comes from taxes. Why would the rich philanthropists want to give money to build a lava lamp in the middle of nowhere, they have better things to do.

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[> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- Peter, 07:01:12 01/26/03 Sun

money has no value. value is only in what is done with money. sam never thought of himself as rich. sam gave no money away. paul and bill are not philanthropists. they, like others, use money only for their own causes.

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[> [> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- Coulee City, 08:59:50 01/26/03 Sun

Money is the root of all evil, especially when you don't have it. There are those who still condemning a millionaire, putting the blame on the rich for holding soap lake back. A jealous and idiotic excuse! Have no condemnation, let the rich live as they please. You can't intimidate the rich! Those who don't have any money or a real life of their own sit around dreaming up ways to get rich quick; try to drag the City into their schemes and want a free ride on money other than their own cause they don't have money.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- QUINCY, 09:54:02 01/26/03 Sun

THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IS NOT MONEY. THERE ARE MANY KIND PEOPLE WITH MEANS IN SOAP LAKE. MEANS COME TO THOSE WITH WAYS. WAYS AND MEANS ARE SACRED. MONEY CANNOT HELP OR HURT ANYONE. NO DIFFERENT THEN GUNS. GUNS DONT KILL. PEOPLE DO. A TOWN CANNOT BE HELD BACK OR HELPED FORWARD - PEOPLE DO THAT. PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY, HAVE IT FOR GOOD REASONS. PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE IT, ARE PENNYLESS BY THEIR OWN DOING. DREAMERS WITH SCHEMES TO GET OTHERS TO GIVE THEM MEANS NEVER SUCCEED. LIKE WILLIE NELSON'S TUNE SAYS, "IF YOU GOT THE MONEY, HONEY, I GOT THE TIME."

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- BFC Inc., 11:16:03 01/27/03 Mon

Been said, "beggers can't be choosy." The lava lamp is not a good choice. A project that is based on begging for money is can be a substanial risk. I believe those that have know-how secure their on fiancial future before they try to be thee small town leading entrepenuers. Best idea is to look at financial track records before you sock any faith or money into impromptu proposals that lack fiancial backing. Just for starters, when projects start off with begging, watch out. Clue # 1: meager funds, no security.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- J. Paul, 11:46:46 01/27/03 Mon

Beggars believe they can be choosy. $25 million to build a giant lava lamp is a ridiculous idea. Cost of capital on $25 is over $1 million a year. Who is going to put up $25 million for the opportunity to lose $1 million a year in interest alone? A mad man.

Paul Allen is not a mad man. The lavalamp team now wants to talk about helping the needy in town, the hungry, the homeless, the unemployed. What have Glassco and Blake done in the past 5 years to help these populations? NOTHING. ZILCH. They did not talk about these until the lavalamp idea ran into opposition. So, they got publicity. This publicity has made the towm the laughing stock in the world.

Do an intenet search on keywords: GIANT LAVA LAMP, to find out the ridicule being heaped at the town.

And the City Council says they can use all the publicity they can get. LAUGHABLE.

Those with the means, have their way. Those with no means, get NOTHING. That's the way in works when you have the means.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: WA. STATE BUDGET GRIM. GRIMMER HOPE FOR STATE FUNDING LAVA LAMP -- internet search, 05:32:58 01/28/03 Tue

Did an internet search. Here is one: Ideas-Soap Lake
Soap Lake News Updated October 5, 2002 Hi John, The lava lamp is beautiful. I can hardly wait to see it in person! The only part that concerns me is the searchlight, visible for 50 miles, shining vertically. Is this 50 miles up, down, or sideways?
http://www.eco-nomic.com/Ideas.htm

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NEWSPAPER HEADLINES IN YEAR 2035 -- PRESS RELEASE, 05:03:32 01/28/03 Tue

New Federal Law regulating hazards. People will be required to register all objects of hazard in their possession by January 2036. This includes nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters, rolled up newspapers and giant lava lamps. exception: allows giant 60ft lava lamp to remain standing in Soap Lake.
A follow up story revealed that after the law was passed, it was discovered Soap Lake City never did have a 60ft lava lamp in their possesion in spite of all the publicity that caused lawmakers to believe otherwise. The exception clause has yet to be repealed.

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SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- No name, 09:17:13 01/19/03 Sun

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[> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- dandydog, 10:15:20 01/19/03 Sun

If they are waiting for free money to pour in for that giant lava lamp, they better expect to get hit by lightning first.

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[> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- joanne, 12:24:44 01/19/03 Sun

{HeraldNet/Verhovek/ portion of report} But the city doesn't have the money to build it. Cost estimates for a lava tower range from $1 million to as much as $25 million. There is widespread hope that a private developer or a philanthropist might like the idea enough to pay for it, but that hasn't happened yet.
And although county and state tourism-development officials say they are willing to offer guidance on Soap Lake's tourism strategy, state or federal funds for a lava lamp "would be pretty difficult to come by, especially in this budget climate," said George Sharp, the tourism development manager in the state's Department of Community, Trade and Economic Development.
The article made referance to a private foundation called SoLaLaLa (for Soap Lake Lava Lamp) that had been formed to solicit funds and maintain the lamp -- if it's built.

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[> [> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- tilly, 12:54:40 01/19/03 Sun

The Boston Globe ran a story on the giant lava lamp titled, "Busted city has groovy idea" Eli Sanders,Correspondent refered to Soap Lake as an economically depressed city on the arid plains of eastern Washington. Later adding that the 1970's lava lamp was an icon usually was associated with smoke filled dorms ad far-out fantasies.

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[> [> [> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- Joplin Fan, 16:04:01 01/19/03 Sun

Sounds like the lyrics of song by Janis Joplin. "BUSTED FLAT IN SOAP LAKE WAITING FOR THE TRAIN."

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[> [> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- RDF, 15:35:57 01/19/03 Sun

SoLa La La Foundation might want to carefully read the PGA mission statement before they ask Paul G. Allen to donate money for the giant lava lamp. The last line says it all......."The foundation invests in effective organizations that address significant community needs, reflect best practices, leverage public and private resources, and contribute to lasting social change."

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[> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- onychom709, 13:31:30 01/20/03 Mon

That idea is one taco short of a combination plate or one fruitloop shy of a full bowl.

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[> [> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- dc, 03:29:13 01/21/03 Tue

The idea of erecting a 60 footer is not even food for thought, it is one feather short of a bird.

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[> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- cbell, 20:54:28 01/20/03 Mon

sounds to me like the most responses this site is getting are from a grumpy old man from soap lake that likes to bash others ideas to sound like he knows what hes talking about, oh and what a wonderfull idea to hide by posting your name as a buch of different animals awwh! how cute sounds like they could use you at the local pre-school! ;)

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[> [> Re: SHOPPING THE GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA TO BIG GLASS MAKERS & PHILANTHROPISTS. -- Susie, 12:30:22 01/27/03 Mon

I beg to differ with cebell. cebell, do you need to be reminded that humans can use a mind of their own? Could it be that you do not want to acknowledge that? If they do exercise that right they are a "grumpy" person? Because of a differance of opinion you call someone "grumpy?" Is "grumpy" one of the Seven Dwarfs? cebell, people don't have to be grumpy to to speak forth. When someone exercises their own personal right to freedom of speech, how do YOU determine passing judgement? "Grumpy" is not a bad word, everyone can get grumpy. But how do you KNOW if someone is sad, mad or "grumpy". Did their pet or parent just die and you read it in the news? Face it cebell, you really have no way of knowing. Maybe they are happy, they could have just inherited a huge sum of money. Can you see faces far away and away far? Do Coasties have xray vision? No and neither do you. Remember the kindergarten children chanting on the playground? Bless them, they helped to implant the courage needed to be strong, courage to be who you are; walk your talk. The weak succumbed. The chant encouraged all to speak their own truth in the face of ignorant slurs. The chant went like this, "sticks and stones can break my bones but names can never hurt me." God BLess those American children who taught us in primary years..how to be free!

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SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- No name, 04:41:16 01/25/03 Sat

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[> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- No name, 05:30:40 01/25/03 Sat

As many as 80 million songbirds are killed each year by collisions with plate glass windows. Most die of skull fractures and internal injuries. Birds see reflections of trees, and fly directly into the window, often at high speeds.
SOLUTION: This problem can be minimized by placing silhouettes of falcons on the outside of the plate glass windows (See left side of this photo). Falcons are natural predators on wild birds, and will usually cause a bird to veer away from the window, thus avoiding a collision.
NOTE: GIANT LAVA LAMP RESEMBLES A GLASS TOWER.

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[> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- No name, 05:33:58 01/25/03 Sat

Nearly a million songbirds are killed each year by collisions with lighted tall buildings. Once again, birds that migrate at night suffer the most. Southern exposures present the greatest risk to birds coming north during the spring migration. Northern faces of buildings are the greatest risk during fall migrations.
SOLUTION: Darken high rise buildings during the spring and fall migratory period.

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[> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- katherine, 05:38:50 01/25/03 Sat

Conservative estimates are that more than a BILLION birds are killed annually in the USA as a result of human activities.

I BEG YOU! DON'T BUILD A 60 FT GLASS TOWER. IF YOU BUILD IT THE BIRDS WILL COME.

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[> [> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- dan, 05:53:21 01/25/03 Sat

Every year many birds come into bird rescue centres after having hit glass.� If you look from the outside of your house into the window, you may see the reflections of the trees and bushes, this is also what the birds view.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- billjoe_tucker2, 06:23:15 01/25/03 Sat

The Conservation-Minded care about bird life! They work hard to increase the public's awareness of the wonder of birds�these loving, warm, caring, intelligent little beings with wings.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- birdlover, 06:49:09 01/25/03 Sat

SUPPORT THE BIRD MOTTO. "HELP DON'T HURT." Rather than seeking to build a giant lava lamp made of glass that will kill birds, why not become an advocate for birds. Volunteer to save wildlife by joining others who are helping save birds. Those who want to make the world a better place to live and safer for birds are making a giant differance in the world. Birds are fine feathered friends that eat bugs and they will be attracted to the millions of bugs they find swarming around the heated lava lamp.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- New Yorker, 16:32:42 01/25/03 Sat

Latter part of 2000 the New York Port Authority developed several measures to help the Audabon Society try to protect the lives of migrating birds. Tenents in towers were asked to turn off non-essential lights or pull the blinds. Netting was placed around vulnerable areas that attract birds to glass and light. The proactive New Yokers followed the safety measures. Their awareness resulted in keeping many birds from crashing. Many were saved from injury and death.

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[> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- einar, 12:36:07 01/25/03 Sat

what funding sources will pay for this giant 60 foot lava lamp? the lamp can either be built, or not. it has to be bullet-proof, which may not be possible. if not possible, what is there to study? now that 1 billion people have read about it: will they ever read when it doesn't happen? this near ghost town will forever have people visit, looking for the giant lava lamp. they'll tell visiting tourists they had to tear it down because it was killing too many birds.

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[> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- Max M., 14:14:05 01/25/03 Sat

Press releases are generating by the persons seeking publicity for themselves and their idea. Doubtfull those same persons will be as eager about sending press releases to notify the world that the giant lava lamp has fallen flat on it's tutti-fruitti tush as most reasonable persons expected. As for funding sources, isn't everyone looking for a hand out? I'd build a billion dollar mansion if money came easy. Ideas come easy. If anyone funds the lava lamp I will eat my hat in front of Bill Clinton.

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[> [> [> Re: SOAP LAKE MAY BECOME FAMOUS. BECOME KNOW AS THE LARGEST FOSTER HOME FOR WEIRD IDEAS -- PG, 03:24:47 01/26/03 Sun

Trust me, millions won't be rolling in for this weird lava lamp plan. The electric guzzler won't work. Won't bring in revenue. Won't bring in people. Will be lucky to pay it's own way and the revenue coming into the city coffers is unlikly to change. The Lava's PUD bill will be enormous.

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$25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- No name, 16:26:01 01/21/03 Tue

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[> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- No name, 05:50:53 01/22/03 Wed

September 2002, roadsideamerica.com. featured the world's largest lava planned for Soap Lake. This web features attractions on the drawing board. Like those .......seeking sponsors, praying for a miracle. The article began by saying that "Development entrepreneurs Brent Blake and John Glassco have this one all figured out." A press release filled in the lengthy details. The story can still be perused at the web.

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- shannon401, 08:22:37 01/22/03 Wed

Most proposals on roadsideamerica are really nothing more than shady ideas. Here are a few of the strangest ones. In Louisville, Kentucky a foundation wants to build the world's largest Jesus, a 150-feet tall statue standing on a globe. This project stalled. In Buffalo, New York a Magician and Maharishi want to build a park, a Veda Land with a levitating building, flying chariots and other wonders that will attract the New Age groupies. The only thing that happened with that idea in 10 years was that the Magician passed on. In Frostburg, Maryland a Pastor was told by Jesus to build a 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high ark. This got about as far as halfway, it was a build as God provides kind of deal.

{Sept. 1, 2002} Brent Blake assures the public. re: "project is real and in funding and feasibilty studies." Will this idea also enter the stalled stage.

Things seem to have stalled out for these entreprenuers, whom have taken up money for their causes.

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[> [> [> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- No name, 12:41:15 01/22/03 Wed

People need to be very careful when someone approaches them for donations. (a) ask to see their pro-spectus (b) ask if they are registered with the state you live in. (c) ask to see paperwork. (d) many cities prohibit door-to-door solicitaions and are protected by the green river ordinance. (e) be prepared to lose your money in case you have been defrauded. (f) If you don't know the laws call the Secretary of State. Most states offer a toll-free Hotline. In Washington State the number is 1-800-332-GIVE. This will you get you further information about organizations that can accept donations from the public. You can obtain valuable information regarding their financial status and activities prior to donating.

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[> [> [> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- mommasan, 16:47:15 01/25/03 Sat

If God didn't provide for that guys Ark, ain't never gonna provide for a lava lamp.

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[> [> [> [> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- bosshog, 02:55:51 01/26/03 Sun

Speaking of unfinished projects I heard that to achieve inner peace you have to finish things you started. So today I finished off 3 bags of Natchos, 2 german chocolate cakes, a pan of jello, a small bag of candy and strangled the living heck out of someone I didn't like. I tell you it really works, I feel better already.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP -- philip, 05:34:32 01/24/03 Fri

An initial step to fund the lava giant failed. The project suffered a fatal blow when it was found to have a dark underside. The project sought public funding, state money to study the feasibility of building a giant lava lamp. Funding application ran into hot water, the $850,000.00 requested for the project's phase 2, "complete enginering and feasability studies" was stalled.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP TO BE THE DRAWING CARD -- cher41, 06:59:31 01/24/03 Fri

i never found psychedelic debris to be cool

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP TO BE THE DRAWING CARD -- terry, 07:18:21 01/24/03 Fri

Me neither, I never thought chemicals to be cool. Chemicals are in Lava Lamps. Benzyl alcohol, cinnamyl alcohol, diethyl phthalate and ethyl salicylate are some of the chemcials used. It is REALLY unhealthy to come into contact with benzyl alcohol by ingestion, skin, or inhalation. The giant 60 footer may not be such a good theme for a health resort.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP TO BE THE DRAWING CARD -- Sadielady, 08:03:11 01/24/03 Fri

Get the puke buckets out. This is as pygmalion'-ized as Joe Million show.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP TO BE THE DRAWING CARD -- stalvik, 07:49:03 01/25/03 Sat

When I touched a real lava lamp I thought, this is really cool. I found it was not cool. The blistering hot glass burned my finger. This is a true story.

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UNDATED ARTIST'S CONCEPT IMAGE SHOWS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. -- No name, 05:59:49 01/24/03 Fri

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[> Re: UNDATED ARTIST'S CONCEPT IMAGE SHOWS WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. -- carbo666, 05:08:58 01/25/03 Sat

that is a mock up pic. it is future-tense, a rendition meant to look like the real mccoy. the entire city must know a hazardous high-rise would not be allowed in a traffic zone and also must know the superimposed giant creature is not real. The world knows there is not a 60 ft giant lava lamp in the world today.

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THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 04:03:29 01/20/03 Mon

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[> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 04:29:08 01/20/03 Mon

The whole world is talking about the giant lava lamp. {Quote from ABC} Brent says. "That's what makes this totally unique, and it's getting people talking all over the world."

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[> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- katherine, 04:39:56 01/21/03 Tue

For centuries and centuries world over people have talked about the comical. Mother Nature outwits us all. She is the true lasting attraction in the world. Naturalists see the world thru different eyes. They do not favor cluttering up the landscape and sky with a towering man-made glass bottle that costs $25 Million or any other plastic idea that is obtrusive to the envirement. People with inner beauty can see beauty everywhere in nature. They also rely less on money to fill them.

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[> [> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- birdwatcher, 05:36:54 01/21/03 Tue

The first great Christian naturalist was St. Frances. Frances looked upon nature and said, paradise must be just like this. Do not seek anything more, that is enough for the soul of man, enough and more than enough. Hear the words of Christ. "Look at the birds in the sky. They do not sow or reap or gather in into barns, yet your heavenly father feeds them.... Think of the flowers growing in the fields, they never have to work or spin, yet I assure you that not even Solomon in all his regalia was robed like one of these."
- Matthew, Ch. 6. St.Francis is known as the Saint of Birds, his statue can be seen in many beautiful gardens. He is the bird's protector. Think how many thousands of birds will be KILLED if you build that towering glass lava lamp. Beautiful birds will die. Each and every day their blood will be on your hands.

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[> [> [> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- glenn, 06:06:19 01/21/03 Tue

Birds are God's creation. Meister Eckhart said, God loves all creatures equally and fills them with His being, and we should lovingly meet all creatures the same way. Apprehend God in all things, for God is in all things. Every single creature is full of God and is a book about God.� Every creature is a word of God. If I spent enough time with the tiniest of creatures, even a caterpillar, I would never have to prepare a sermon, so full of God is every creature.
Hildegard of Bingen said, There is no creature that does not have a radiance. Holy persons draw to themselves all that is earthly. I welcome every creature of the world with grace. Julian of Norwich said, God's goodness fills all his creatures. All creatures of God's creation that can suffer pain suffered with him. The sky and the earth failed at the time of Christ's dying because he, too, was a part of nature. Those who have universal love for all their fellow Christians in God have love towards everything that exists. Mechtild of Magdelburg said.The truly wise person kneels at the feet of creatures, And is not afraid to endure the mockery of others.

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[> [> [> [> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- molly, 06:19:05 01/21/03 Tue

The mission of Audubon California is to conserve and restore California's natural ecosystems, focusing on birds, other wildlife, and their habitats for the benefit of humanity and the earth's biological diversity.
By connecting people with nature, Audubon California will be the leader in creating a powerful California voice for the environment, deeply rooted in and broadly drawn from all parts of our population.
By informing and involving people with nature where they live, Audubon California will equip the people of California to actively and effectively conserve their ecological heritage.

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[> [> [> [> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 07:00:14 01/21/03 Tue

SAVE THE BIRDS. The birds are worth remembering. Flight is a wonder and one wing-tip a space marvel. When will man know what birds know. SAVE THE BIRDS.

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[> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- Cal, 16:22:43 01/21/03 Tue

Publicity is like lightning---one brillant flash and it's gone---and soon out of sight out of mind.

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[> [> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- BlkDiaMOND, 17:42:26 01/23/03 Thu

Seeking publicity is a shallow way to spend one's time. What is more lasting than publicity or money is having Soul. The rich and famous are not going to be moved by a giant lava lamp and as far as packing their bags and traveling across country to see one....forget it. Those that are zoned out or locked in the 60s may be able to hitch or thumb a ride to see it once. You gotta to have Soul and Heart man. This is the magic ingredient that makes everything happen in a community. A lava lamp doesn't have Soul. Real good flesh and blood people with Soul draw others. Few will come for a lava lamp.

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[> Re: THE WHOLE WORLD IS TALKING ABOUT THE GIANT LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 05:23:22 01/22/03 Wed

Don't let the publicity go to your head.

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BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- --can you imagine that, 07:32:07 01/19/03 Sun

Source: ABC NEWS. The Grooviest Lamp on Earth: Paris has the Eiffel Tower, New York has the Empire State Building � and Soap Lake, Wash., may soon have the world's largest lava lamp � a 60-foot, psychedelic blast.
Tourists once flocked to local mineral baths. If only Soap Lake could capture some of the business from nearby Grand Coulee Dam, which draws 1.5 million visitors a year.
Now, civic leaders foresee the proposed giant lamp with an observation deck, where tourists can lunch and meditate over the lamp's oozing red goo.
"We're going to ask Paul Allen for help," says Brent Blake, a local architect who proposed the project, inspired by the molten rock that flowed through Soap Lake 14 million years ago.
Allen, a co-founder of Microsoft Corp., is involved in many charitable efforts in Washington state, but has yet to comment on the lava lamp initiative, which won't come cheap.
"To do this, we have to build a giant glass vessel and nobody knows exactly how much that'll cost. It's never been attempted," Brent says. "That's what makes this totally unique, and it's getting people talking all over the world."

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[> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- No name, 07:34:55 01/19/03 Sun

More whacky than Waco.

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[> [> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- No name, 08:47:40 01/19/03 Sun

Paul G. Allen has six PGA Foundations. The Charitable Foundation's Mission is.....To promote the healthy development of vulnerable populations and strengthen families and communities in the Pacific Northwest. The foundation invests in effective organizations that address significant community needs, reflect best practices, leverage public and private resources, and contribute to lasting social change.

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[> [> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- No name, 09:06:24 01/19/03 Sun

Cyberland has a lot comments going on this lava lamp idea. This one was especially interesting.

Soap Lake, Washington is planning on installing a giant Lava Lamp at the center of their town to attract tourists. It will be an estimated 60 ft high with a max diameter of 18 ft. It will hold approximately 60,000 gallons of liquid including the wax-petroleum-jelly hybrid gloopy stuff. One has to wonder though if some drunkard at 3 AM isn't going to yank out a firearm, whoop it up, and cause the downtown core to be bathed with piping-hot chemical-enriched liquid. Now *that* I would have to see. ;)
Jan 16 2003 | 05:50 PM
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Lava lamps always seem to go stale after a few years. As if the liquid gets dusty and tired, the lamp gets hazy, friends stop looking. I fear the same for this town's giant lamp - fun for a while, but I bet it's going to be a sad little albatross in three years time.

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[> [> [> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- tony, 11:53:30 01/19/03 Sun

(Jan. 14, 03) Another cyber opinion re the giant lava lamp. "What kind of drugs would go with this light?".....See, I've always told you all that lava lamps were a state of mind. It comes naturally to people of Eastern Washington. We are ahead of our time.
Of course, that release of radioactive gases into the atmosphere from Hanford nuclear plant in Eastern Washington might also have something to do with it.

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[> [> [> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- kim schell, 18:32:13 01/19/03 Sun

YOU GOT THE IDEA! A GIANT ALBATROSS WOULD MAKE A GREAT SOAP LAKE ICON. COOL MAN!

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[> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- soopie, 08:32:02 01/19/03 Sun

Last year CBH announced that Brent Blake said, he hopes to seek the co-founder of Microsoft's fiancial support. The article went on to say that Brent Blake and John Glassco's propose lamp will be a structure that will tower over downtown Soap Lake with a maximum height of 68 feet and diameter of 24 feet. Course it was implied that could vary. Kinda like The way they vary the price everytime their asked. The 60ft was 68 ft. The cost was $25 million in October, 2001 and then they begin to fudge. The press has been given a 2 or 3 million figure. I don't know is another phase or rather phrase of the lava lamp mumbo-jumbo.

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[> [> Re: BLAKE WANTS PAUL ALLEN TO HELP PAY FOR THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP -- No name, 05:55:46 01/23/03 Thu

re posting. This one is right on target. Subject: RISING POWER COSTS AND HIGH OBJECTS.
"The cost of the proposed lava lamp is sky-high. To keep the getting high theme going, the spendy object should be higher than 60 some feet. Consider how high it would look on top of a higher platform. That proposed to be high building that is now showing up to be under construction on main boulevard soap lake would be a great location. With a little ingenuity & engineering going into the giant lava lamp theme it could even eventually begin to look higher than a kiddie kite with no strings attached and.... The Lord of the Rings will be on hand to preside at the ground breaking ceremony."

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IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. RISING POWER COSTS AND WASTING POWER! -- ~former energy consultant, 07:09:33 12/22/02 Sun

Wanting to pump valuable costly energy into a $25 million dollar lava lamp around the clock, is not a blissful idea! It is sheer ignorance to create such a monster, fatally ignoring energy conservation.

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[> Re: IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. RISING POWER COSTS AND WASTING POWER! -- Jim, 23:53:59 12/28/02 Sat

Why $25 million? How many times can the entire town of Soap Lake be re-built for? Geeeez. Can anyone construct a budget which gets to $25 million? Sounds like a cool project, but the cost sounds exorbitant. What gives? Where are the proponents hiding that they are answering no questions?

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[> [> Re: IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. RISING POWER COSTS AND WASTING POWER! -- Johnson, 17:34:43 12/30/02 Mon

Having been in the construction business for years, I know about cost overruns. Early on these dudes declared that this dappie lamp project will level out as a 25 million dollar figure. You can add in another million by the time it is up. If it even runs at a 60ft scale will be the question. Making a small scale model will not prove a giant scale model will run. Being it is being constructed for outdoors, another stickler arises. And what if it won't run after pouring all those million into the lamp? Is there even a suitable property site available. Not yet! The simple truth is that these creators of this giant idea never really thought it through before they sought national coverage. They can not answer questions that they have no answers to. When in doubt punt. I suspect they will punt. If they haven't already, their foolish. They are way out of the ballpark. When it comes around to attempting to get awarded any state funding, the flimsy will not rate well. The 25 million dollar figure is the killer of the project.

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[> [> [> Re: IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. RISING POWER COSTS AND WASTING POWER! -- ---apple-pie-in-the-sky, 05:33:46 01/23/03 Thu

The cost of the proposed lava lamp is sky-high. To keep the getting high theme going, the spendy object should be higher than 60 some feet. Consider how high it would look on top of a higher platform. That proposed to be high building that is now showing up to be under construction on main boulevard soap lake would be a great location. With a little ingenuity & engineering going into the giant lava lamp theme it could even eventually begin to look higher than a kiddie kite with no strings attached and.... The Lord of the Rings will be on hand to preside at the ground breaking ceremony.

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[> [> Re: IGNORANCE IS NOT BLISS. RISING POWER COSTS AND WASTING POWER! -- B.G. Wilks, 11:55:55 01/17/03 Fri

You really want to know why Blake wants to raise $25 MILLION DOLLARS to build his dream lamp? Do you really think anyone can get Blake to explain to the public just how he arrived at his profuse project figure? If you ask, you can bet your bottom dollar you will get nothing more than a quick promenade in a circle or a slow walk around the clock. A feasiblty study has not been done. All this media hype is over a proposed lava lamp, based on a mere figment of imagination. Think about how much $25 MILLION DOLLARS is and what it can buy! Spending that kind of money on a glass fixture is highly irrational thinking. Irresponsible spending shuld come out of their own wallet. If they have such a great idea, they can put their own money where their mouth is.

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[> Re: DON"T BE FOOLED. CITY OF SOAP LAKE IS NOT THE BACKER OF THE LAVA LAMP SCHEME. -- PK, 06:30:49 01/19/03 Sun

BayArea.com listed the Soap Lake Lava Lamp story under WEIRD NEWS. They got that right!

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[> Re: DON"T BE FOOLED. CITY OF SOAP LAKE IS NOT THE BACKER OF THE LAVA LAMP SCHEME. -- Bill, 04:44:58 01/22/03 Wed

RE: City Council, Soap Lake Washington. The City ONLY gave the two designers a courtesy vote, one so worded to clearly acknowledge that the city supports development and will support their CONCEPT as well based on a limited preview of the idea; ie the artist's rendition of the giant lava lamp and practically no information at all. The City DID NOT vote to take on the giant lava lamp development nor was it to become a city public works project. Presently, the $25 million dollar proposal and study is under the guidance of Brent Blake, Manager of the Team's project.

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THE GIANT BUBBLING MIRAGE. EASTERN WASHINGTON DESERT.. -- No name, 07:59:36 01/21/03 Tue

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[> Re: THE GIANT BUBBLING MIRAGE. EASTERN WASHINGTON DESERT.. -- No name, 08:28:23 01/21/03 Tue

A mirage is a startling optical atmospheric effect. Though we associate mirages with the illusion of distant water in a desert, the phantom oasis is actually just the simplest example of this bizarre effect.
A mirage is generated by two layers of air at different temperatures. Because cold air is more dense than hot air, the boundary between the layers can refract (bend) light, especially if the light hits the boundary at an extreme angle. The oasis mirage occurs when the air just above the ground gets hot because the ground heats it.
This effect can even cause people to think they see whole cities, houses and skyscrapers. Many of these type of mirages have been documented. Regardless of all the publicity the giant lava lamp recieves, it's state of being is much like a mirage; non-existant.

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LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- No name, 08:57:34 01/15/03 Wed

SOURCE: January 14, 2003, REUTER, CNN. It was reported that a huge lava lamp is seen as Soap Lake's "SALVATION." Lava Lamp Promotor, Brent Blake is quoted as saying, " There's nothing difficult about building this thing, except for the glass vessel, which is basically a giant pop bottle." Article refers to the lava lamp idea as a "glistening hippy throwback' and indicates that the "civic leaders are seriously considering trying to revive the tourist trade with a psychedelic blast from the past." The reporting goes on to address the reality of it all by saying, "there is also no guarantee that drivers will stop for lunch or shopping in nearly deserted downtown Soap Lake.

While the media and mass continue to eye the giant costly lava lamp idea as an offbeat hoax, Blake just keeps saying how COOL it is. Wishfully thinking that PAUL ALLEN, MICROSOFT CORP, co-founder and billionaire, could make an ideal benefactor is pretty farout. In October of 2002, The Lava Lamp Team, John Glassgo and Brent Blake, made public the PROJECTED COST of their 60 ft. giant lava lamp. A WHOPPING $25 MILLION DOLLARS!

MUCH HOOPLA OVER NOTHING. FOR SMALL PEANUTS THEY COULD BUILD A GIANT HOOLA HOOP THAT WOULD GET THE SAME MEDIA COVERAGE, STOPPERS AND LOOKERS, BUT NEITHER IDEA WOULD BE THE SALAVATION OF THE DESERTED DOWNTOWN.

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- Mr. B, 13:41:45 01/15/03 Wed

RE: ..."civic leaders are seriously considering trying to revive the tourist trade with a psychedelic blast from the past; a towering 60-ft-high lava lamp." Who are these unmentionable civic leaders that want this blast from the past? Come on, we all know that Soap Lake's population is made up of 60% retired and elderly. That vague line, civic leaders, reminds me of the old wornout advertising phrase, the catch-all that says, recommended by leading doctors. Most people's hunch is right. Many say this whole lava lamp issue and advertising campaign is as phoney as can be. The lava teams claims that they had to shut their internet message forum down due to a sudden spike in traffic which zoomed to 20,000 hits in one day after CNN released the lava lamp news. On the actual downside of things, the promotors seem to be unable to tell the differance between bad publicity and good publicity. Maybe the real civic leaders should consider renaming the City of Soap Lake to protect the innocent commoners who have no interest in supporting a psychedelic blast from the past or better yet propose that those prone to seek fantasy move on to Fantasy Island so the City can get on with real prudent business.

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- cbell, 02:06:57 01/16/03 Thu

maybee if you had some kind of tourist attraction you would have more "prudent business" than you could ever imagine, i think it takes a no brainer odd ball idea these days to spark the attention of everyone, this idea is along the right track and maybee it will generate enough new jobs, population increase, and income, that it will at the very least pay for itself, and every single person in the world would definatly have to stand and gaze for a good half an hour or so, or maybe a half a day, and still not even begin to have seen what this thing can do, you could return every year and sit for a half a day, this idea is a very good no brainer, such a good no brainer that it is going to shock the hell out of some folks when people from all over move to this town to live just because of what they can do on a fri. sat. night and never get bored, i think you opposers should be more concerned for the population of the out of soap lake small towns when everyone wants to move to soap lake, and start stocking up on home builders and thinking about makeing some real cash for a change, people should take advantage instead of standing by and gripeing while the filthy rich get filthy richer, all in all this idea should pay for itself many times over i think this thing will pay for itself a few times over in the first year, quit complaning and just go with the flow, like its really gonna hurt your eyes, should be very beautifull!

i can vouch for me and hundreds of my friends and associates to say if you build it we will definatly come!!!!
many times!!!!!!!!

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[> [> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- LA Lover, 07:12:01 01/16/03 Thu

You just might be right pal. The no-brainer bird-brain idea may fit. Birds of a feather do flock together. If you or anyone else thinks that a giant bottle of glob is the ticket to tourism, you better get your hip-boots out cause you see the flood coming. A cheaper and more brainy scheme would be to move all the town's people to LA where the real live action is. The lava lamp is a joke.

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[> [> [> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- cbell, 20:35:57 01/20/03 Mon

sit and watch as people get rich beyond their wildest dreams, if and when this thing goes up the narrow minded rants that oppose this happening will hush up and and most will act as if they knew it all along, even though they know they opposed in the first place, this is the little action that draws the invisible line between rich and poor sitting on your duff and complaining will do nothing, did your mom tell you not to say anything at all if it wasnt nice, that is not only to protect the feelings of the people you are refering to, also to protect your pride and to not make you look like a blithering idiot when the person(s) you are refering to turn out successfull no thanks to you, this action is what makes people famous and gives them drive to do what they know they can if only to merley prove you wrong! if you think the only reason this town will flourish is because of a "big gloop in glass" you are displaying a narrow mind, the reason why this will give soap lake the little bit of an edge it needs to drive millions here, is the millions are already set to go they just need a reason to stop, this place is right in the middle of all kinds of people going back and forth to and from seattle and spokane, the two most populated cities in wa. and just barley miss soap lake because of 20 miles, i dont know about you but 20 miles is not too far for me to drive to see somthing i will never again anywhere in the world!, very odd also that millions of people just pass on through soap lake in the summer to see the awsome grand coulee dam, and to camp along one of the most beautifull and nature filled areas in the northwest, oh by the way the fishing at rufus was the best i have seen in my life thanks for asking bob, and yes i have no problem driving six and a half hours just to fish it again, like i did yesterday stayed at center lodge motel and recomend it, but if their was a giant lava lamp in soap lake i would stay their at least three times a year and drive an hour more in the morning just because of what i could do while i was relaxing for the night, and i know i would be joined by millions of others just passing through, enough said, just the travelers would make this town a close second to seattle or spokane!

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[> [> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- BARD, 13:15:07 01/16/03 Thu

Have to hand it to you cbellsells@hotmail.com, you exhibit a great sense of humor and a wonderful vivid imagination. Bet you could put your thinking cap on and even come up with an idea that far surpasses the giant lava lamp. Best of luck to you cbel and your "hundreds of friends and associates" who plan on coming to Soap Lake to see the Lava Lite in full bloom.

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[> [> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- Fisherman Bob, 13:48:01 01/16/03 Thu

Welcome aboard cbell. I heard the trout were biting good at Rufus Woods last fall. Quite a trek from Vancouver huh?

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP LISTED UNDER "OFFBEAT NEWS" @ CNN.COM -- JHC, 05:15:30 01/17/03 Fri

HELLO! HELLO! MR. BLAKE ARE YOU FOR REAL? YOU SAY ...."THERE IS NOTHING DIFFICULT ABOUT BUILDING THIS THING." IF THAT BE SO, WHY DID YOUR OWN WRITTEN APPLICATION FOR FINDING FUNDING SOURCES, WHICH YOU MADE OUT AND SENT TO THE WASHINGTON STATE SCOPER AGENT, LIST THE LAVA LAMP "THING" AS YOU NOW CALL IT AS A $25 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT. WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO BLUFF BLAKE? EVER READ THE STORY ABOUT PINOCCHIO?

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$25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA FIZZLING! -- --no moola., 16:00:05 01/19/03 Sun

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA FIZZLING! -- knightsky, 18:23:39 01/19/03 Sun

When these neophite lava entrepreneurs find their goo formula fizzling out instead of the goo oozing and bobbing they will wake from the dream. They haven't a clue about lava history. Many scientist's worked on lava lamp formulas way prior to Walkers and partnership after partnership that had formed to produce a functioning lava lamp continued to dissolved due to the problems with their lava lamp formula going flat.

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA FIZZLING! -- chiaro, 12:37:17 01/20/03 Mon

One of the comments on the internet took issue with the artist's rendition. The person believed the giant lava lamp in the picture to be simply a pasted picture of a regular lava lamp. Also it was mentioned that the fluid dynamics of lava bubble flow in a lava lamp can not be easily scaled up. The rendition was faulted because the person is of the opinion you won't see giant lava bubbles in a scaled up lava lamp like shown in the picture.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP IDEA FIZZLING! -- No name, 03:48:10 01/20/03 Mon

It is a MONEY ISSUE. PUBLIC FUNDING is tight. The tourism development manager in the state's Department of Community, Trade and Economic Development addressed that issue. "would be pretty difficult to come by, especially in this budget climate."

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LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- uno@juno, 05:11:38 01/19/03 Sun

Your message has been posted to: $25 million Giant Soap Lake Lava Lamp
Here's what your message looks like:

Blake wants everyone to exhibit his new lava lamp poster. Too funny! The two figures (people) are posed on the circular stand next to the hot hot hot hot glass of the lava lamp, center of Main St. in Soap Lake. Whoever dreamt that up must have been breathing too much ozone for lack of oxygen. When can people stop laughing?

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- shirley, 05:25:34 01/19/03 Sun

RIDDLE: The biggest giant lava lamp on the market today takes a 100 watt flood bulb that will heat the lava lamp for 3000 hours. The lava lamp is 17 inches tall. How big a bulb will a 60ft giant lava lamp take and how many hours will it give off heat? The cost breakout might well be in Brent Blake's $25 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECTION.

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[> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- donTek21, 05:30:24 01/19/03 Sun

These guys need to come up for air.

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[> [> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- johnson, 06:58:34 01/19/03 Sun

We read about it on Grouse Today. I said that the citizens of Soap Lake, Washington State, have decided they need a Big Thing to liven up their town, and are planning to build a giant lava lamp. It might work. When they build it, it might just about be worth it to take a deviation to look at it.

Pardon us but I don't think the citizens of Soap Lake, Washington, have decided they need a Big Lava Lamp. In fact, I am sure. Since coming of the Internet Age anyone can send out news releases to hell and back... then turn aound and boast about all the publicity they have gotten for Soap Lake. This whole stunt is shameful and pretty pathetic. It's nothing more than concept and a scheme to grap headline news.

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[> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- go_chicago, 05:40:52 01/19/03 Sun

The Lava Tower has superceded the old giants. Instead of having small lava bubbles that travel inches through liquid, the Lava Tower produces huge globs of lava that travel several feet upwards through a� 6" diameter glass chamber. Like the Lava� Lamp you just plug it into the wall. Not sure about the size of the bulb for a 60ft giant tower. Why am I laughing?

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[> [> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- bobcat77, 05:54:09 01/19/03 Sun

The largest commercial giant lava lamp on the market is five feet tall. Bigger is not always better. They will find out that there is a reason a 60ft lava tower has not been built. The dealers will race to see it when and if you can build it. smirk smirk

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[> [> [> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- chicagobear, 06:08:44 01/19/03 Sun

The lava lamp called HUMONGO MOTION sold for $5,500 and was made by LAVA(r). It was 4 feet tall and has been taken off the market. Want to know why? Good luck.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- putter, 06:18:03 01/19/03 Sun

Guess they haven't figured out why yet. A theme park model is very sensitive to hot and cold. Gets pretty cold and drafty here in Chicago.

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP POSTER RELEASED AT SOAP LAKE. ($3.00) -- robin_de, 18:02:51 01/19/03 Sun

I saw the lava lamp posters on the Blake's homepage. They want people to sell those? Their doozy oozy idea is not even a reality yet and they are advertising the lava lamp AS IF it IS at Soap Lake. Use that old art of make believe and people will believe. SOUPY SALES! These Lava Emperors wear no clothes!

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GIANT LAVA LAMP PLAN, A DESPERATE EFFORT. -- No name, 13:56:52 01/19/03 Sun

Source WWW: lead to giant lava lamp story lamp describes it as.... a desperate effort. For sure. It is not the time or place.

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Lava Lamp Plan To Save Ailing Town: XtraMSN Travel... Americas. -- haLG, 13:37:28 01/19/03 Sun

Brent Blake and John Glassgo think the lava lamp plan will save ailing Soap Lake and are seeking support, money and all the media coverage they can drum up. One thing they have raised is a lot of eyebrows and drawn a lot of attention. Most are skeptical the fantasy. Soap Lake has been long touted for it's healing waters and miracle cures.

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PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. LAVA LAMP GIVES OFF WRONG IMPRESSION. -- No name, 06:48:10 01/18/03 Sat

A guy from New Zealand posted here following the Lava Press Release on CNN. He said that he could see the Soap Lake bumper stickers stating, THE BURG WITH THE HERB. He must think everyone smokes pot here. He calls the lava lamp a beacon that will summon all hippie-dom and hopes the locals will embrace the freedom loving stoners. Goes to show that the lava lamp icon does attract those with a desire to indulge in an altered or tilted view of reality. Remember the old saying, cats smell their own. That is proof enough that the giant lava lamp is not a good icon for Soap Lake. Proof is in the pudding. The many many many messages posted on the world web related to dope. Those dope comments rolled in after the lava lamp idea was aired on January 14th, that spokes for itself.

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[> Re: PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. LAVA LAMP GIVES OFF WRONG IMPRESSION. -- seahawk56, 08:30:21 01/18/03 Sat

Not only does the lava lamp attract dopers, it attracts a flood of bugs. This big of a lamp will give off a tremendous amount of radiating heat. This is a TERRIBLE HAZARD. Hope they got plenty of risk insurance. The artist's rendition of Blake's lava design shows a couple of people basking high on the platform that surrounds the 60 ft tower which is encased by a protective railing. How about protecting from THIRD DEGREE BURNS? THIS LAVA LAMP IS A DOPIE IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess if your high enough you don't feel any pain! Don't think clearly either.

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[> [> Re: PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. LAVA LAMP GIVES OFF WRONG IMPRESSION. -- Uno@juno, 04:59:27 01/19/03 Sun

Blake wants all the shops to exhibit his lava lamp poster. Too funny! The two figures (people) are posed right on the circular stand next to the hot glass of the lamp. Whoever dreamt that up must have been breathing too much ozone for lack of oxygen. When can people stop laughing?

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GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- No name, 22:01:04 01/16/03 Thu

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- Robert, 23:02:29 01/16/03 Thu

The last person out of Soap lake can turn out the lights including the Lava Lamp. (:-!)

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[> [> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- Peter B., 04:50:08 01/17/03 Fri

No need to worry about anyone having to turn out the lava light, there is massive doubt that it will ever be build. If it could happen, sure as anything some non-comformist nemesis will quickly shoot out this attractive nuisance. One of the message boards online had a comment about the lava lamp attracting all the potheads to Soap Lake. Because of the lava lamp idea they got a very false impression, thinking that the Soap Lake PD would be willing to ignore illegal substance users. The psychedelic relic is not a good choice for a Soap Lake theme or attraction.

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[> [> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- HAWK52, 06:22:02 01/17/03 Fri

ATTENTION Lava Lovers. The Eclectics are said to be holding their Lava Lamp Love-In at Soap Lake, Washington TODAY! The Lava gathering had been scheduled for SATURDAY, JANUARY 18, 2003. Might call for reservations, we all know how utterly jam-packed it will be. Jump into your tie-dyed T-shirt, put up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, pull on those poly bell bottoms and hurry right on down. PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL AND GOD BLESS AMERICA. I would believe the gathering to be blessed by God if they can find one smart person at that meeting that can came up with a more decent theme for Soap Lake. WANTING TO BUILD A SUB-CULTURE ICON IS NUTTIER THAN A FRUITCAKE. SCHEEZ.

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[> [> [> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- Ed, 06:42:10 01/17/03 Fri

I think it is still on for Saturday the 18th. You know how the rumor mill goes on and on at Soap Lake. Let us hope that more start getting involved than the same handfull that always claims to have the hip answers to Soap Lake's woes, they are poorly representing the community's and it's desires.

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[> [> [> [> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- 1/18/2003--poor showing, 04:29:03 01/19/03 Sun

One news reporter showed and about thirty other people from around the area. Soap Lake has 1,700 residents. The lack of attendance, reflected the attitude of the people to be one of dis-interest, few wanting to waste time on the lava scheme and unless your into starting a collection of lava lamp posters of your own, you wouldn't shell out the three bucks they expected. One of the avid supporters of the lava lamp was overheard complaining about how long the sales meeting drug on. "I was waiting for them to quit pitching and get to passing out the free radios made in China." You could hear a few snickers surface here and there.

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[> [> [> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- Herb, 06:04:00 01/18/03 Sat

There was a public announcement in the Grant County Journal about Saturday's meeting. By the looks of things, they must have decided it best to call it a "tourist" meeting. It appears they have decided to play down their main issue, the team's humongous lava lamp that they wanted to hunker in the center of Main street. That was the real drive that started this whole meeting thing rolling. How offbeat is that? Could this be a masquerade party? Bet me! I think I will show up as a Lava Guru if I can find the time to set my dreadlocks and iron my hemp robe.

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP PROMOTION BACKFIRES, BRINGS ON SOUR PUBLICITY. -- cheetah_75, 07:13:39 01/17/03 Fri

The irony and gall of it all should sour any normal person's stomach. What an insult to a town that is already struggling to survive. Anybody stupid enough to buy into this whole warped lava lamp brain-less notion is really in a delusionary time warp.

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LAVA LAMP TEAM SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE -- City Manager, 09:08:09 01/17/03 Fri

The Lava Lamp Team should be held accountable for squelching tourism by contriving, conjuring and clamoring for the vast media publicity that has ended up making the City of Soap Lake look beyond foolish. The Lava Lamp Team can not deny or erase from the minds of people mass amount of critical, detrimental and mocking remarks that came forth as a result of the heated endeavors to get the word out about building what can be rightly classed as a leftover drug culture symbol and that when they do... people will come. False. The symbol was destined to be the downfall. The cost is also a paramount issue in today's economy. Gov. Locke as spoken out about how tight state money is right now. The world-wide feedback that has followed this course of events behind this lava lamp issue is a pathetic result of a flash in the pan, a sudden idea that just two fellows came up with. Two trees never have made a forest. The world feedback speaks little for the brain-child that they wish to erect. This kind of bad news is not good news for a very small desert city that has high hopes of trying to survive on tourism. The drug culture symbol should be dropped at once in the best interest of the general populace who are not at all into the psychedelic scene or so oriented. Our City would never have supported this type of idea. It is reasonable to think that the Soap Lake Council could get buffaloed into this jig-saw by a couple of soft-shoe artists. Better for the City Council to recant as fast as they santioned rather than repent in leisure.

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[> Re: LAVA LAMP TEAM SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE -- redfox1008, 12:02:29 01/18/03 Sat

Your right. However, the lava lamp is the downfall but not the only downfall. The other biggie is an even bigger downfall. $25 MILLION DOLLARS is nothing to sneeze at. $25 MILLION for something that stands in the center of town and gurgles. If those boys are wanting to relive their youth, why don't they build a giant bubble pipe. With all the hot air being passed around the town over this lavaworks, I'd say they could run it day and night for free.

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[> Re: BREWER SAYS, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH SOME CAPITAL, WHO'S WILLING TO SPEND IT. -- No name, 12:28:52 01/17/03 Fri

Giant Lava Lamp Application --CITY WAS NOT APPLICANT/ CITY DID NOT FILL OUT THIS APPLICATION OR AUTHORIZE IT BE DONE BY BRENT BLAKE, MGR. GIANT LAVA LAMP TEAM.

Source:
http://www.oted.wa.gov/ed/wacert/using_the_system/View_Project.asp?CERTID=WA23006&RevisionNum=0
Project Title: Giant Lava Lamp
WA-CERT ID: WA23006
Application Date: 10/1/2002
Project Type: 9 - Tourism Development
Months to Complete: 24
Project Description: The project is a unique theme structure or tourist attraction to draw people to Soap Lake and assist in the revitalization and redevelopment of the community. The design is the World's largest Lava Lamp "like" structure fully functional as existing lava lamps only at a scale of between 40-60 feet in height and 18-24 feet in diameter. Brent Blake has acted as project manager and John glassco as consultant and co-developer. The project was started in May of 2002 and has received support of civic leaders of the City and County. The Scope of the project: 1.Gain acceptance of the project within the community, County and State. 2. Complete engineering and feasability studies. 3. Determine costs and budgets. 4. Prepare architectural and engineering documentation. 5. Bid and build structure. Project is seeking phase 2 of this description.
GMA Compliant?: Yes
Quik Site Candidate?: No
Small Communities
Pilot Candidate?: No
Certified Communities
Candidate?: No
Current Need: Feasibility Study/Engineering Report
Pre Permitted?: No
Capital Facilities
Plan?: No
Comp Plan?: No
Business Plan?: No
Benefit Population: 6,000
Phased Project?: Yes
Phase Number: 2
Phase Count: 5
Phase Years: 3
County/Tribe: Grant County
County Contact: Terry Brewer
County Priority: 0
Applicant: City of Soap Lake
Applicant Contact: Jean Waller
Applicant Phone: (509)246-1211
Applicant Email: jhein@grantedc.com
Contact:
Notes:
Total Project Cost: $25,000,000.00
Raised to Date: $50,000.00
Requested: $850,000.00
Dollars: $0
Program:
Source:
Department:
Agency:
State District:
Federal District:
Jobs Created in
1-3 Years: 10
Jobs Created in
3-5 Years: 50
Jobs Retained: 100
Outcomes: Traffic accessments, accounting of City revenue, real estate sales, consumption of utilities and other resources, Business and Occupation taxes, permits and fees, etc.
Economic Diversification Strategy: The project satisfies, in a singlular structure, the extreme need to create economic re-development and re-vitalization of Soap Lake, through the attraction of tourists. It is a project which will be the catalyst for other business investment and redevelopment efforts by others who will benefit from the influx of tourist dollars.
Planning Efforts: Project complies with regional planning components of the eco-tourism issues outlined in the Ephrata-Soap Lake Economic Plan, the Grant County Comprehensive Plan, and the Cultural Corridor Planning in progress.
Engineering Reports and Feasibility Studies: No engineering or feasibility studies have been prepared. This is the next step necessary for development of the project.
Secured Funds: No
Other Efforts: We prepared design documentation including photo/illustrations of the project, developed a web site at www.giantlavalamp.com and gained local, national and international publicity for the project, through all media sources including radio,television, newspapers and the internet.
Local Infrastructure Improvements: The project will draw tourist dollars, and other business investment into the community. The added revenue from tourism and B&O taxes and other fees will provide the resources for improvement of local infrastructure and it capacity to meet the needs of the anticipated growth and revitalization of the community.
Compliance with EPA/DOE: N/A
Other Factors: No
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[> [> Re: BREWER SAYS, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH SOME CAPITAL, WHO'S WILLING TO SPEND IT. -- 23skidoo, 11:48:46 01/18/03 Sat

The lava lamp team's application is black and white proof that there is a spoof going on. IT SAYS, $25 MILLION DOLLARS. In the days of honesty, a man's word was a good handshake. I'd be mighty leery of this project. If I was an investor and they approached me about donating money to this cause----I am afraid I would have laughed my socks off. There must have a bunch of ding-bats seated on the town council that don't know why they are there.

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[> Re: BREWER SAYS, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH SOME CAPITAL, WHO'S WILLING TO SPEND IT. -- regina, 14:57:51 01/17/03 Fri

"A fool and his money are soon parted." I can not fathom anybody being foolish enough to give away hard cash towards building a giant outdoor lava lamp at Soap Lake, Wa. People keep asking why this glitzy global glaring garish gizmo got so much attention? That is a simple deduction. Time was devoted to the game plan; make a big splash and impression. The fan-fare will soon be over and the giant will die on the drawing board. This thing has over-exceeded it's running room and brought little (if any) fame to Soap Lake. There is a fool born everyday!

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[> Re: BREWER SAYS, WE NEED SOMEONE WITH SOME CAPITAL, WHO'S WILLING TO SPEND IT. -- whoozit, 15:08:53 01/17/03 Fri

$25 MILLION DOLLARS? SOMEONE IS TRYING TO MAKE SOME MONEY OFF THIS IDEA. WHO IS IT?

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PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- --outrageous horrendous waste of money., 07:25:56 01/16/03 Thu

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[> Re: PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- Chris, 08:03:37 01/16/03 Thu

(Quote) "Small town considers giant lava lamp.�Leaders hope goofy structure would bring visitors." (Unquote)�

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[> Re: PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- Chris, 08:04:44 01/16/03 Thu

(Quote) "Small town considers giant lava lamp.�Leaders hope goofy structure would bring visitors." (Unquote)�

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[> [> Re: PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- Monty, 08:34:53 01/16/03 Thu

The "leaders", whatever that means, must be banking on the bygone theory that lays some claim to the idea that "any port in the storm will do." Taking a wild long shot based on desperation is sheer folly. A giant lava lamp is not the key to revitalizing the once popular attraction that has faded. Time changed Soap Lake, Soap Lake remained stagnant; refused to change. Consequently, they were left in the dust, the lure for healing waters slipped away when penicillin and Las Vegas arrived on the scene. Small towns are known for their small-mindedness. With no term limits on leaders, a strangle hold prevails. Those who desire to control what is to their benefit instead of what could be a benefit to all is what holds small towns back in the woods till they become a deserted pinpoint on the map. Think on this historical factoid.

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[> [> Re: PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- Steve Beasley, 17:22:33 01/16/03 Thu

I am from Tampa, Florida and currently residing in Auckland, New Zealand.
The Giant Lava Lamp proposed for Soap Lake, Washington is a great idea. That will now be that beacon that summons all things in hippie-dom. I can see Grateful Dead-heads coming by the thousands. Peace & harmony will reign in Soap Lake like never before....and hopefully locals will jump on the bandwagon and embrace the freedom loving stoners. The local infrastructure will benefit greatly from this. There'll be a Woodstock ambience. Can you smell the patchouli?
I see bumper snickers stating, "The Burg with the Herb! A Maharaji Yoga-ish type will re-locate there to seek followers. Too bad George Harrison isn't around to enjoy it. I say get the Wizard of Christchurch, NZ to move there, too. You could always get Terry Zimmer of Tampa, Florida to contact Pink Floyd and ask them to come. Also invite freedom-loving Member of Paliament, Nandor Tzandos from Wellington, NZ. Soap Lake would absolutely rock! Bob Denver (from 1960's TV Hit, Gilligan's Island) could be the Mayor. Groovy, Man!
Peace, Love, Dove,
Steve

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[> [> [> Re: PRESS CALLS THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP A GOOFY IDEA! -- Paul, 20:52:21 01/16/03 Thu

I bet if Timothy, the King of LSD, was still alive he would have to agree with you. To really create that feeling and real essance of community wholeness and unity, everyone could get into that altered state of conciousness called Alpha, Zen or High on a pencil lid. Everyone could just drop out, burn out, groove on the lava lamp and forget about working. Now that is a real unprogressive thought! To hell with the economy, back to the 60s, act like flower children who lived for peace, love, sex and drugs and create a colony of Mary Janes at Soap Lake. Have you considered a brain transplant?

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[> Re: WORLD WIDE WEB YIELDS BIZARRE COMMENTS ABOUT GIANT LAVA LAMP -- Darla, 18:50:31 01/16/03 Thu

Out of two hundred some comments on the Yahoo Message Board, many treated the lava lamp idea as a joke or hoax. One person suggested a Giant Bong be erected instead. Another said, don't believe what the Mayor tells you, that's not a field of experiment corn next to the giant lava lamp. Another said, first things first, legalize marijuana. Make Soap Lake the new party place for America with a Hard Rock Cafe and Harley shop. The money made from selling pot could go to running and maintaining the lava lamp. Another wanted a giant go go bar built with legal pot sold over the counter. They called it a surefire hit for tourists.
Looks like Soap Lake is getting more of a bum rush than they bargained for when they opened the barn door and let the team of horses run wild. All in all it paints a pretty sad picture of Soap Lake and for Soap Lake. Nothing like cutting off the head to save the dog.

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[> [> Re: WORLD WIDE WEB YIELDS BIZARRE COMMENTS ABOUT GIANT LAVA LAMP -- No name, 19:57:51 01/16/03 Thu

How about the guy that talked down the lava lamp. To him it was a crappy thing and suggested a restroom be built at the base of the giant floating turd. Too weird to imagine. One person took one look at the team's lava lamp picture and delivered a brillant comment. The poster asked everyone to pay close attention to the picture of the lava lamp in the street at Soap Lake and see that people are depicted on the suggested viewing platform around the lamp. Poster suggested it might be a tanning stand, a cooking stand and even could be a huge outdoor lighted bar-b-que.The person hoped they would build it cause they want to see how long the viewers stand once the lamp reaches operating temprature needed to float all that wax in the 60 ft.lava lamp. The guy is right on track. I have seen retail stores encase their lava lamps in a protective viewing box made from clear plastic as a safety factor so that customers do not get burnt when they run into the hot glass. It does get RED HOT. It just goes to show that not much thought or planning went into this headlong rush for publicity and people see thru the holes.

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GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP UNDER CONSTRUCTION? -- Diana, 23:14:24 11/30/02 Sat

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Current events from the web with metaphysical comments by MindRec editors.

October 19, 2002

Brent Blake's Giant $25 million Soap Lake Lava lamp

Soap Lake sees a shining future in giant Lava lamp

As proposed, the lamp would be 60 feet tall, with a diameter of 18 feet. The top cap would have a searchlight that would shine vertically and be visible for 50 miles.

I was thinking glamour, but this seems more like development of an icon. How do you bring trade to a small town... a giant ball of twine? We had a sailing ship. It seems to have sailed in search of bluer oceans. It would have been better to create an icon that couldn't leave.

Posted by Diana at October 19, 2002 02:12 PM

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[> Re: GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP UNDER CONSTRUCTION? -- Ken, 01:09:46 12/01/02 Sun

Soap Lake sees a shining future in giant lava lamp with A SEARCH LIGHT THAT SHINES FOR A 50 MILE RADIUS? That is not "AWE" that is AWFUL. Everyone young and old is awed by the natural beauty of the stars overhead, and it is a view that is rapidly disappearing around the globe solely because of obtrusive outdoor lighting. The solutions are elementary Watson -- If illumination is truly needed to improve safety or security be sure to use only as much light as needed for the task.

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[> Re: GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP UNDER CONSTRUCTION? -- Steve Beasley, 16:41:28 01/16/03 Thu

I am from Tampa, Florida and currently residing in Auckland, New Zealand.
The Giant Lava Lamp proposed for Soap Lake, Washington is a great idea. That will now be that beacon that summons all things in hippie-dom. I can see Grateful Dead-heads coming by the thousands. Peace & harmony will reign in Soap Lake like never before....and hopefully locals will jump on the bandwagon and embrace the freedom loving stoners. The local infrastructure will benefit greatly from this. There'll be a Woodstock ambience. Can you smell the patchouli?
I see bumper snickers stating, "The Burg with the Herb! A Maharaji Yoga-ish type will re-locate there to seek followers. Too bad George Harrison isn't around to enjoy it. I say get the Wizard of Christchurch, NZ to move there, too. You could always get Terry Zimmer of Tampa, Florida to contact Pink Floyd and ask them to come. Also invite freedom-loving Member of Paliament, Nandor Tzandos from Wellington, NZ. Soap Lake would absolutely rock! Groovy, Man!
Peace, Love, Dove,
Steve

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SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- VIVA., 05:46:57 01/07/03 Tue

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[> Re: SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- Cummings, 06:21:04 01/07/03 Tue

Why in the world would any reasonable person in the middle of a war be considering building a $25 million dollar glass lava lamp in the center of a "ghost town"? Hope the glass is shatterproof. Lest we forget that even in America there are people without food on their plate. Maturity allows you to know that a Lava Lamp is but a trinket. Toss out the trivia and come to the party. You lava dreamers want to watch globs shift around while people are dying here or abroad? You are ignoring the signs of the times we are living. Very foolish.

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[> Re: SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- Sandy, 04:57:19 01/08/03 Wed

With publicity flowing all over the place, the end result has brought a fatal backlash. The City is now being portrayed as a "ghost town." This quirk of fate came about due to a fatally flawed proposal that became a mass publicity scheme. The idiotic nonsense grew by leaps and bounds until it fatally portrayed Soap Lake as a ghost town, a plunge that will further sink and kill tourism, discourage new settlers and cause home owners to scurry to sell Soap Lake properties. All in all it will cause Soap Lake to quickly and quietly sink deeper into a quagmire of it's own making. Many homes are already up for sale. the sellers are discouraged, Soap Lake real estate is getting harder and harder to move. City of Soap Lake can no longer afford to endorse every ripple that froths from the blithering stream. Soap Lake Chamber of Commerce should not become the foster home for orphan projects. It is not wise to become a useful catch-all; an advocate, avenue and fuel for promoting and advertising every disaster in the making. Time and again, City and Chamber have been used selfishly and advantageously for unsensible reasons.

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[> Re: SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- cbell, 02:23:00 01/16/03 Thu

again you are going about this the wrong way, you are looking at this all wrong, as piece of junk that sits around in your home, this is billions of dollars of all kinds of revenue we are talking about, again you to will sit around and watch everyone else get filthy rich?, what is wrong with this little comunity, not much if you dont like to make money that feeds the poor, gives jobs to the jobless, homes to the homeless, and stimulates the economy, you cannot build an empire that has already been built, if you were to stick this in the middle of seattle, sure people would sit and gaze at this thing, but seattle is already booming, to make it short you cannot grow if you dont have room to grow, if you ask me just by the close minded response that isobviously from this town it sounds like it has more room to grow than ever predicted. i say go for it what have you got to lose????, a few narrow minded opinions!!!

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[> [> Re: SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- Mike, 09:03:22 01/16/03 Thu

QUESTION: The question posed here was "what have you got to lose." ANSWER: The answer is $25 MILLION DOLLARS, that is what you have to lose if you go for it. There is no proof that a 60 ft giant lava lamp can be built to function properly, especially outdoors, nor is there a way to prove that it will attract tourists like flies drawn to cow-pies. SEEKING A CASINO TO LOCATE AT SOAP LAKE would be a better GAMBLE and be more fitting to the history of Soap lake. In it's heyday, Soap Lake was wide-open; known for it's gambling, drinking and ladies-in-waiting. Tighter LAWS changed those most popular attractive pasttimes that brought in the cashflow from the city slickers that kept local business afloat. Soap Lake had it's high-rollers, the season closed.

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[> [> Re: SOAP LAKE RECEIVES WORLD-WIDE RECOGNITION AS A GHOST TOWN. -- Russell, 12:43:55 01/16/03 Thu

Definition of narrow-minded is not liberal or broad-minded. This perfectly describes small town thinking and why the intolerant, illiberal, hidebound and bigoted miss the forest for the trees. Holding onto tunnel vision turns people into sheep that can not see beyond their own nose. Sheep follow so close that if one stops suddenly, the one behind gets a broken nose. Followers are not leaders. There is a class called the mediocrity. They tend to meander along like sheep, going along with the megalomania of self-appointed leaders. Those who like to play follow the leader would love Montana, they got a lot of sheep there. The nicest thing about opinions is that everyone can have one of their very own.

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SOAP LAKE'S FOOD BANK IS BUSIEST PLACE -- Scott Parker, 06:24:21 01/16/03 Thu

SOURCE: VERHOVEK, LOS ANGELES TIMES, JANUARY 14, 2003. RE: SOAP LAKE & THE LAVA LAMP. In accord with the story released, the City of Soap Lake is practically broke, two-thirds of the people in the community are classed as low-income and the busiest spot in the center of the commercial district is the Soap Lake Food Bank. When one retired party, who was in the lineup for food, was asked about the lava lamp, he stated,"it's just so stupid." That statement was darn close to what another news story broke. They called it, " A GOOFY IDEA."
Why is the Lava Lamp Team seeking all this goofy publicity? Why Is the Giant Lava Lamp Team so nebulous when reporters ask them about the cost? Why do they behave so cagey and keep back-peddling, dropping the cost back to several million? They know very well that they went public long ago with a set cost factor of $25 MILLION DOLLARS. I think the whole story is a GIANT fluke. There has been a lot of contradiction and misinformation putforth. Even conflicting information about the City's role appears on their giant lava lamp website. "Oh what a wicked web we weave when others to decieve."

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"IF YOU DON'T LIKE LAVA LAMPS, YOUR AFRAID OF SEX."..Craven Walker (lava lamp inventor) -- Mike, 05:56:59 01/08/03 Wed

Craven Walker (lava lamp inventer), was also a nudist who wanted to ban obese persons from nudist colonies. Maybe the giant lava lamp is more significant to Soap Lake than Blake and Glassco realized at the time they had the flash. Soap Lake's wild history goes back to the nudist beach on it's shores. Maybe Walker did find lava lamps, sex and nudity had a connection. (at least for him) Hypnotic pop-art compared to disliking sex is a weird correlation. Not liking a lava lamp at Soap Lake has nothing to do with sex, it has to do with having common sense. The idea of building a 60ft $25 million dollar pop-art icon has gained the City of Soap Lake nothing but a bad name. "GHOST TOWN PLANS RETURN TO LIFE." Maybe they should start advertising in Ghost Towns in America.

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BRITISH BROADCASTING~~JANUARY 2003 BBC NEWS. -- (ELABORATE HOAX), 05:35:15 01/07/03 Tue

On January 5th, BBC ran an article entitled "GHOST TOWN PLANS RETURN TO LIFE." It was about Soap Lake and Brent Blake'proposed Lava Lamp. On January 6th, BBC ran another article which was about CLONING, copyng humans to make babies. American journalist, Micheal Guillen, was quoted as saying, "It's still entirely possible Clonaid's announcement is part of an elaborate hoax intended to bring publicity to the Raelian movement." It seems fitting to think that Guillen's quote could be applied to the BBC article about Soap Lake and the "Lava Experiance". "If the shoe fits wear it." For example, it is still entirely possible Blake's announcement is part of an elaborate hoax intended to bring publicity to Soap Lake. The lava lamp supporters keep on raving about all the publicity they got. Would this indicate that publicity was the reason for seeking to be in the news? When speaking of the elaborate news spreads, they all consistantly and redundantly break with the following pat answer. If the lava lamp never comes about, the publicity was good for Soap Lake. Was it? It is now being advertised world over as a dingy tourist stop called a dying ghost town. Not cool!

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THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- ~saying take me to Soap Lake, 05:08:28 12/04/02 Wed

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[> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- No name, 07:56:06 12/04/02 Wed

"WHEN WE BUILD IT THEY WILL COME" Just that simple..eh? The history of Lava is not that simple. Manufacturing those 60s icons is actually an exacting process. The water and the wax are composed of 11 secret ingredients mixed in near giant size vats. Then there are those worker bees, those highly skilled and dedicated technicians who careully measure the specific gravity of the various components to the enth degree, ten-thousandth. Course the specific gravities of each batch of water and wax has to be individually matched, or you see the wax will break up into tiny bubbles. I suppose you want yours to crawl up the side of the globe, or just float about an inch above the bottom of the lamp. You see it is custom mix-and-match involved in each batch. That will explain to you why you can't just go out and buy some replacement goo if the fluid in your Giant Soap Lake Lava Lamp poops out, like gets low or if the lava gets sick. You will need to call Dr. Lava. The Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp Team must of had a sparse idea of lava history. The sudden brain flash may have been real. Yup..they say it will cost $25 MILLION DOLLARS . Gee wonder if Dr. Lava will be here for the unveiling? In-house humor is always a nice touch.

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Fred, 00:50:19 12/14/02 Sat

What voice spoke to them when the Giant Lava Team's WA-Cert application was filled out in the name of the City of Soap Lake without authorization by City or right to use the City's name as their private umbrella to pursue funding sources for the lava lamp?

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[> [> [> Re: THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM -- Pat, 23:56:43 12/28/02 Sat

What are you talking about when you say that "the Giant Lava Team's WA-Cert application was filled out in the name of the City of Soap Lake" without authorization by City or right to use the City's name as their private umbrella to pursue funding sources for the lava lamp?

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[> [> [> [> Re: THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM -- Chas., 07:33:55 12/31/02 Tue

What part of MISREPRESENTATION don't you understand pal? (a) Applicant to WA-CERT was Brent Blake, lava lamp project manager of the Lava Lamp Team. Members of Lava Team, Brent Blake or John Glassgo would be required to first obtain a non-profit status in order to be eligible to apply to WA-CERT. (b) City of Soap Lake was not the Applicant, City did not write an application for funding giant lava lamp nor did City apply to WA-CERT. (c) By a long shot, only talk of the team forming some type of lava lamp foundation would not have been enough to float a state application.

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[> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- FUNUKAH, 04:48:43 12/05/02 Thu

Pray Soap Lake does not have an earthquake during chanukah. You've donned your yarmulke having some funukah when...out of the blue the shaking causes total or partial emulsification of the GLOBOLE. HOLY MOLY!

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- STAR2, 07:31:41 12/05/02 Thu

>Pray Soap Lake does not have an EXPLOSION. RE: EXPLOSION & COMPLEX DYNAMICS. Robert Britt, senior scientist, has done some research on stars and compares his study to lava lamps. Massive stars are short lived and collapse in one second. The exploding star behaves something like the lava lamp when casting bubbles of super hot material into space. The Giant Lava Lamp is proposed to go in thecenter of downtown Soap Lake. How will this tourist object's thermal heat be able to be well-regulated? What insures public safety? The heated outdoor object will be subjected to atmospheric changes that will greatly affect it. Freezing weather, blazing suns and shock waves. Without a proper installed regulator and or if heat regulator malfunctions should anticipate history coming home to roost? A LAVA flow repeat on a minor scale? The complex dynamics of the large aged star that explodes claims to mimic the lava lamp as Britt's research shows. History repeats! Can we expect to see Hot Lava flowing down the gutters on Main St in Soap Lake?

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[> [> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Bard, 08:06:57 12/05/02 Thu

From what the manager of the Giant Lava Lamp Team has said last week or so it appears they are cooling their jets, feet are getting cold and realty in the form of performance has set in after that brain flash. I think so. Whether it ever gets built..."is a huge question,"concedes Blake. DAH! Agreed. "There's a lot of hurdles to overcome," he said. DAH! Agreed. Then there is always that last defensive worn-out punch line thrown in. Still, the lava lamp has provided tremendous publicity.....which has helped put Soap Lake on the map. Get real. HOW POSH! Sure, the Omak stampede will be overshadowed by those rushing Lava Lovers. Bar the City gates Katie, up the police force and wait for that huge train to pull in. What's new! Soap Lake has waited for that since it's decline. The freaking out laughing flock that read about the Giant Lava Lamp has stopped laughing by now and the Giant is off their lips.

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- No name, 14:27:05 12/05/02 Thu

>Pray Washington State is smarter than to dish out $850,000.00 for a start towards a $25 MILLION DOLLAR Giant Lava Lamp. Source: Time magazine & British Broadcasting Corp. December issue of the Times stated, "States are in crisis. They will have to cut services, raise taxes and try a few tricks." Janet Williams, BBC correspondent, said-- Soap Lake is like many small rural communities struggling to find an identity and stimulate their economics during these tough financial times. DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A TIME TO PURCHASE A 60FT GIANT LAVA LAMP? No, it is not the time to waste money on frills, trimmings, facades or a Soap Lake GIANT LAVA LAMP.

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[> [> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Flapper Daze, 21:38:19 12/10/02 Tue

The Grant WA-CERT list is ANNUALLY PRIORITIZED by a committee appointed by county commissioners. I rather doubt they will see the Giant Lava Lamp as a high priority even if it had the blessing of the Pope. Just because Soap Lake City Council gave it's blessings to the pig-in-a-poke without delving into the matter, does not mean the committee who prioritizes will be so simply stroked into blissfull thinking and stilled observation by the art of double speak. One of the Commissioners was on hand to observe at the first project meeting called by Giant Lava Team. We can trust that the dingy doo-dad idea created from a sudden momentary not so brillant burst of light will not dilate the committee's eyes nor will they dilly-dally over where to place it on the Grant list. The Giant Lava Lamp idea is still flapping around. A chicken with it's head cut off still flaps for a while.

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- No name, 04:38:30 12/06/02 Fri

Popular Science revealed that the performance of the lava lamp will depend on the quality of the water used and a few experiments need to be conducted to determine just how much sodium chloride is necessary to increase the water's specific gravity. I had a Brain Flash. Why not use our high quality Soap Lake Healing Mineral Water that is high in salts and if the Lava blobs get droopy they will be instantanously healed. Even those dead bugs stuck all over the lamp who are drawn like moths to the flame will be healed of any ails, dead or alive. Imagine, when we work out the bugs we will build it and the bugs will come. Glory to the highest LAVA on the planet!

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[> [> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Hazel, 07:30:45 12/06/02 Fri

Glory be to my idea. Soap Lake is made up of 60% elderly. The only outing I get is when my back goes out. We elderly would like to have better representation from our Council, yuppy planners and the wet behind the ears. I do propose we have a more fitting town theme being we are the honorable largest percent. We could even hold a contest at the Senior Center. Maybe that is unfair for us to ask to be included instead of excluded. We are the voices of experiance, do not pass us by. I have a splendid theme. A GIANT BOWLING BALL, un-drilled without finger holes. Soap Lake will be the first. Being most of us can no longer bowl, it represents us better than a Giant Lava Lamp. Not being of the 60s flower children or their children, the only controlled substance we can relate to is the latest kick. We got notice the State no longer wanted to provide enough support for our meds and some pharmacys balked at serving us.

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[> [> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Glen K., 18:09:36 12/19/02 Thu

RE: 1992 Edition of Popular Science. RE: Formula for lava lamp. Some comments from cyber regarding the materials and substances that make up the liquid inside lava lamp globe. (ONE) "Use of material and subtances that may be hazardous to you health." (TWO) "I did a Web search, and you might want to try that too -- specifically, to look for safer plans. For now, visit the following sites for plans on lava lamps, but PLEASE, PLEASE, BEWARE! You should SPEAK WITH YOUR TEACHER first and be CERTAIN that you thoroughly understand the DANGERS inherent in building these lamps -- and what you need to do to stay safe and whole. Do not take these comments lightly. The ingredients in some of the "recipes" are carcinogens. Some are quite flammable. If you decide to proceed, do so in a lab and under the direct supervision of your teacher. SAFETY FIRST!!!" (THREE) My comment: Soap Lake is lauded as a Health Resort. Sounds as if a hazardous, dangerous & carcinogenic recipe put into a 60 ft Giant would not be exactly in keeping with the Health Resort Theme at Soap LAke, Washington. (FOUR) Comment was: " My Lava Lamp broke and the contents spilled on my rug. How do I get rid of the toxic fumes?" Maybe a 60 ft Giant Red Plastic Bean Bag in the Center of Soap Lake would be safer!

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- No name, 05:39:36 12/06/02 Fri

>Pray that some enterprising inventive grant seeking cliff hanger drops off one of one of our magnificant palisades, landing plop right in Soap Lake wanting to dream with us. I want the City Theme to be a Mammoth Aspirin Bottle. I will call a town meeting. I shall inform the people that is a perfect theme for Soap Lake who seems to always have one blistering headache going or another coming on. If necssary I shall be prepared to twist their arm one on one and also lobby the City Council. Then I also hold private sessions in my pad, late night that is. Like walking on eggshells, don't want to crack it yet. Who cares if the City Council ends up egg on their face, they represent ME. If they don't like the egg-- hid it or take an aspirin if they feel they have a pang or two of remorse. Not my headache!
My plan and theme is the ONLY one Council should consider and why not? Don't question it. Won't need to worry over using a Brand name, we can call the 100ft tall bottle Aspirin or Ass-pirin or Bayer Bottle. Lots of tricks to get around things. Maybe there could be an elevator to the bottle's cap and we could have a colorful swirling aspirin dispenser complete with audio that tells ALL the history of Soap Lake; good fund raiser. Our first release of the date of the Bottle Meeting will be written here in invisibe ink, we do not want to scare anyone off before we start. Isn't that a catchy phrase!

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Wilbur, 05:55:07 12/19/02 Thu

Turlock school evacuated after lava lamp experiment starts fire
The fire destroyed the science room and caused damage to another school room.
Source: KOUR 13 NEWS.�
An elementary-middle school in Turlock was evacuated when a classroom lava lamp experiment started a fire.
Fire officials say a power strip ignited the fire at Chatom Union School. Officials say lava lamps that the students were working on for a science experiment were conected to the power strip.
The students were at recess when the fire ignited. The principal says he is glad no one was injured.
Tom Freeman / Principal: "Fortunate [there was] no loss other than material things."
The fire destroyed the science room and caused damage to another school room. Some students were able to return to their classrooms but many were sent home.

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[> [> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- Schief, 00:00:54 12/29/02 Sun

You may have hit on the project for economic renewal of Soap Lake: a giant 120-foot Soap Lake HOLY MOLY.

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[> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- MELLOW YELLOW, 13:53:50 12/07/02 Sat

Source: CBH Front Page, Dec. 2, 02. First thought after reading the wording re the "proponents"... "have a hidden adgenda"...was to agree. Second thought, after viewing photograph, was... four trees and a background sign reading "Central Washington Budweiser" surely don't make a forest. Brewer's comment furthered the staged cause. Brewer noted Blake had submitted a completed WA-CERT appliction for a review process. Brewer, EDC, chose his words carefully, avoiding what he knows. Brewer OMITS that the WA-CERT application was false, applied for under NAME of CITY of Soap Lake. Brewer knew about this long before the meeting. "Lava Lamp has the blessing of Soap Lake officials." Seven more trees don't make a forest. The story of the great annointed giant gleaned from an unknown few in a bar setting. Isolated trees, a sagging limb of government and you got it. The Giant Prognathous Prima Facia. All these tactics are subversive, give a one-sided slant in an attempt to influence; staged to favor the promotors. Yellow journalism is not new!

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[> [> Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- Slim, 22:06:52 12/07/02 Sat

Just stumbled on to this message board. What is this all about? Are the people in this small town all dead? $25 million dollars to build a giant lava lamp? What's wrong with this picture?

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[> [> [> Re: Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- pro.rogue, 03:53:30 12/08/02 Sun

"Where apathy prevails,corruption reigns." The understated is what the naked eye is meant to miss. The overstated is what the naked eye is meant to see. Power corrupts. The awesome power and technology it will take to create a Giant Lava Lamp is no longer the issue that overshadows the promotion. Big error is in thinking all people can be fooled and lack the ability to see thru the privy. The picture is a ripstop. Prorogation! Promotional Minesweeper. Not all people were born deprived children that lack education. The lava team manager and their community meeting moderator says,..."hold hands." Must have been refering to the Machine. THE PRESS.

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[> [> [> Re: Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- Salesman, 05:13:09 12/08/02 Sun

The lava love story feasts on promo. It is a staged filibustering fireball, no filet mignon when you get to the meat of the matter. Fooling the public? This lopping sanction infers the general public is not considered to be smart enough to connect the dots. NERO fiddled while Rome burned. The orchestra aboard the TITANIC played on while the ship sank. Goes to prove that what is hidden by the controlers, those running the ship or government heads..... can be harmful. It is a sick joke to think a $25 MILLION DOLLAR
PLUNDER will inoculate Soap Lake economy. CBH talks of Lava Proponents having a hidden adgenda.... Economic Development? Whose kidding who? How about that BBC interview and where it took place? The front page picture in CBH reminds us why the legislators put into effect the right to recission law, 72 hours to change your mind. Too many salesman were useing their influence on clients by the wine and dine.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- BUD-FAN, 05:45:02 12/08/02 Sun

A picture says a thousand words. Bet the beer sales for "Central Washington Budweiser" go up even if the giant lava lamp does not. Getting their Bud sign hanging on the front page of CBH has great potenial. It may be picked up by the Associated Press and sent all over the World. Good promo for the Budweiser Marketing Giants!

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[> [> [> Re: Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- Woman Power, 07:33:08 12/08/02 Sun

Leave it to a woman to tell it like it is. Columbia Basin Herald's coverage of the so-called first-of-its-kind lamp and interview done by Janet Williams contained a view from a woman's standpoint. When asked by Williams if she thought the giant lava lamp idea was bizarre, she said, " WE'VE GOT THE BIZARRE PEOPLE. WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE A BIZARRE LAVA LAMP." Sandy summed it up in fourteen words. That a girl Sandy, one for Smart Woman Power.

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[> [> [> Re: Giant Prognathous Prima Facia -- Sophie, 18:37:07 12/15/02 Sun

You ask what is wrong with this picture? When someone trys to sell you a blind horse would they be showing you it's feet? It is not a matter of the couch potatoes being dead. The problem is that wearing blinders has become the standard. People have become complacent, prefer the boob-tube and butterhorns over grassroots participation or the political Soap Lake Circus.

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[> Re: THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION... AND THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM. -- MS. BLUE, 07:00:06 12/19/02 Thu

BRENT BLAKE, Giant Lava Lamp Project Manager, says, "WHEN WE BUILD IT THEY WILL COME." WILL ROGERS said something more like this.....get there first and wait for them to come. Be prepared for a mighty long wait before this copious exuding extravehicular will rise to any corkscrew occasion in the near future. Don't hold your breath for the christening.

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DON'T GET STOKED OR STROKED FOLKS. THE GIANT STUBBED IT'S OWN TOE, THE REMAINS ARE STUBBLE. -- ~$25 MILLION DOLLAR GRASSROOTS STORY, 07:27:42 12/22/02 Sun

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[> Re: DON'T GET STOKED OR STROKED FOLKS. THE GIANT STUBBED IT'S OWN TOE, THE REMAINS ARE STUBBLE. -- Orin747, 09:35:40 12/30/02 Mon

"There is still no lava light at the end of the tunnel for Soap Lake, where a couple of entrepreneurs have proposed a giant lava lamp be built as a tourist attraction." ..source, Rick Steigmeyer, World Staff, 12/29/02.

Pipe dreams are a dime a dozen! The big "If" is whether John Glassgo and Blake, creators of the idea, can find money for their project. According to Jean Wallar, Soap Lake City Clerk, a lot of people say, "WHAT A WILD IDEA." They sure are right on. The idea is wilder than a March Hare, more crazed than a beaver who got trapped in it's own dam or a frantic spider that spun itself into it's own web that was meant as a catch-all.

The "when we build it they will come" spoof has fell apart at the seams since the City of Soap Lake was not willing to serve as a front or foot the bill. I agree with the City. Let them gamble on their money.

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GIANT LAVA LAMP TOUTED:EARTHENWARE & UNIVERSAL(NOT-SO)TRUTHS CAN REVIVE SL ECONOMY? -- No name, 03:52:58 12/02/02 Mon

It has been said that,"There are certain characteristics that really do make Soap Lake unique on Earth, but perhaps not unique in the universe." Must be the chemistry and I do not mean of the lake. Behind the scenes, the word used is "WHACKY IDEAS".

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP TOUTED:EARTHENWARE & UNIVERSAL(NOT-SO)TRUTHS CAN REVIVE SL ECONOMY? -- No name, 20:48:55 12/02/02 Mon

Speaking of whacky ideas, the tri-city herald mentioned a whacky theme idea to top a lava lamp. Tongue in cheek, the writer went on to say they had looked at concepts that went along with their rich agriculture. The idea of a dance troupe dressed like wine grapes and asparagus spears was scratched, there was Trademark problems with Fruit Of The Loom. Good healthy humor. In relation to Trademarks, I recall Doug Clark's article in the Spokesman Review. Doug wrote, "Nor does he (Brent Blake) know if he needs some kind of licensing agreement from the company that makes lava lamps. Good reporting Doug. Never ask a question that you do not have the answer to. :-o)

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP TOUTED:EARTHENWARE & UNIVERSAL(NOT-SO)TRUTHS CAN REVIVE SL ECONOMY? -- Freckles, 05:43:32 12/19/02 Thu

There are certain characteristics of Europa that mimic the lava lamp; freckles found on Europa. Dr. Robert Pappalardo, a planetary scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder says that.. "Europa acts like a planetary lava lamp, carrying material from near the surface down to the ocean, and, if they exist, potentially transporting organisms up toward the surface." Could the proposed Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp idea, described by Sl promotors as a flash they got, came by way of Europa? Sounded pretty spacey!

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP TOUTED:EARTHENWARE & UNIVERSAL(NOT-SO)TRUTHS CAN REVIVE SL ECONOMY? -- J. Lewis, 06:35:43 12/22/02 Sun

City of Soap Lake anticipated recieving much needed street funding, this project's application was not granted and was in the $500,000 bracket. The lava lamp promotors are OUT to lunch if they think a $25 million dollar giant lava lamp, which they so stupidly portrayed as being in the center of MAIN street's business drag, will make the grade for funding.

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THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP -- Lava Turner, 03:08:48 12/04/02 Wed

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[> Re: THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP -- No name, 04:32:57 12/04/02 Wed

IN the beginning there was no word! Since then, much spread, all butter and little bread.

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[> Re: THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP -- No name, 03:34:28 12/06/02 Fri

THE WA-CERT APPLICATION APPLIED FOR BY GIANT LAVA TEAM IS A BIG HUSH-PUPPY. No-hitter! How about those facts? Application proves how it was filed, when it was filed, why it was a hush-hush and that it turned out to be not legal. All of those aspects of the filing and results of filing are to remain hidden from the public. The American Way? RED WALL? Read on.

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[> [> Re: THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP -- No name, 03:41:49 12/06/02 Fri

>THE WA-CERT APPLICATION.
> Application speaks for itself. Like the old saying goes, "It is not over till the fat lady sings."

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[> [> [> Re: THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP -- Zeigler, 06:30:54 12/19/02 Thu

How would your SOAP LAKE TAXPAYERS like to PAY the GIANT PUD Bill that will stoke that lava into glowing flowing contortions; twenty-four seven three hundred sixty five days a YEAR? EEKS! Where does CONSERVATION of ENERGY play into this Giant Bubble Machine? Wattage! Wattage! Wattage! The Giant Lava Teams's project is WAY-OUT of line. TOO FAR-OUT AS A WAYSIDE ATTRACTION TO BE COST EFFECTIVE; NOT FEASIBLE!

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GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- No name, 01:50:53 11/21/02 Thu

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[> Re: GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- Lena, 05:57:57 12/10/02 Tue

SL LAVA FLUKE, a project that was passed of as SL Public Works Project and is not, attracted much nationwide coverage not because it so popular or publically correct, but because SL Giant Lava Team sought it. Smart folks are more leery. In better news...the prime talk is that economic development begins with taking care of health issues. City of Spokane is leading the way in that health concept, believing that healthy people is the number one issue in economic development. AGREED!

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[> [> Re: GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- No name, 22:52:35 12/16/02 Mon

Outlandish ideas attract outlandish people. It will be quite a surprise to the millions who will visit Soap Lake to find no Lava Lamp. Soap Lake will go down in history as the town which does not have a 60 foot Giant Lava Lamp, as announced to the world.

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[> [> [> Re: GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- TONTO, 07:03:15 12/17/02 Tue

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to come up with an idea. When your called upon to justify your idea, ways and means, push has come to shove. The giant lava lamp team's one-sided heavy media push met shove. After the project was forced to separate itself from the City, it became slag in the lap of whence it came. To reenter the picture & redeem the project it will take a redaction, more than idle talk. As it now sits, it is a lone ranger without a horse to ride up on after City of Soap Lake discovered and counteracted what the project's application turned out to be all about; wrongfull use of the name of City as a foothold for finding ways and means to fund their pricey giant. The whimsical unfeasable flash will have to be reduced to reality before the sizzle will sell again..... if ever.

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[> Re: GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- Dave, 10:24:37 12/14/02 Sat

WILL A $25 MILLION DOLLAR LAVA LAMP INSPIRIT THE LOWERY ECONOMY OF SOAP LAKE, WA. DESERT COMMUNITY? MANY I HAVE SPOKEN WITH DO NOT COURT THE LAVA LAMP PROGENITOR'S ABSURD PHILOSOPHY!

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[> Re: GOBBLEDY-GOOK GOOFBALL STORY HITS THE PRESS -- ~~Please Note: Everyone is entitled to our opinions., 06:12:53 12/16/02 Mon

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Landmark Lava Lamp Bubbly Idea -- No name, 23:01:03 11/16/02 Sat

Source: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/

Landmark lava lamp bubbly idea
September 29, 2002
by Doug Clark - Staff writer
dougc@spokesman.com

Forgive me for believing that those Big Scale days of the Inland Northwest were long gone. But I thought we'd never again see the kind of bold and brawny construction projects that gave us such gargantuan wonders as Grand Coulee Dam, Hanford or the Silver Valley Hazardous Waste Superfund Clean-Up Site. Then along came Brent Blake with a King Kong-sized dream.

Blake, 60, wants to build the world's largest lava lamp and stick it smack in the middle of downtown Soap Lake, Wash. He's talking about a 60-foot version of one of those glowing, bubbling blob bottles that became a trademark of the Psychedelic Sixties. Then, like hippies to incense, gawkers will be drawn by the busload to this Grant County burg, 120 miles west of Spokane.

This is basically the same kind of tourist enhancement plan Leavenworth embraced when all the residents there one day decided to turn into Bavarians. "Doug, it is an important moment for this project and the future of Soap Lake," Blake wrote to me in a recent letter. "We need to gain ownership of the concept by spreading the word of what we are going to do here to help revitalize this depressed community, and you sound like the right person to assist us in this effort."

Oh, yes, Brent, consider me your personal lava lamp liaison to the masses. This idea is so exquisitely frivolous, so delightfully dubious, so monumentally preposterous, so ...

How can I say no?

After receiving Blake's initial e-mail, I dialed the number he listed to see if this was some kind of Internet prank. Blake answered his cell phone. He told me he was in a car heading to a Seattle baseball game. Ah, a Mariners fan. No stranger to lost causes. Blake told me that his background is in architecture and design. His connection to Soap Lake, he says, is a downtown two story building (the old police station) that he bought not long ago.

According to Blake, this lava lamp scheme popped out of his brain during a late-night discussion with a buddy about civic improvement. Soap Lake has the potential of being a funky, artsy community, he says. "That's why this lamp seems like an appropriate idea." (Check out his cool Web site at www.giantlavalamp.com )

Soap Lake could use a jump-start.

It was once a booming spa town because the high mineral content of its lake water was considered curative. These days, Soap Lake is trying to hang on. But now that Seattle's Space Needle has been sold to that lottery winner named Steve and moved to Moses Lake, a giant lava lamp in Soap Lake would be Grant County's second-biggest tourist attraction. This could spark a flurry of copycat boondock innovation. Reardan, for example, might want to counter Soap Lake by erecting the world's largest peace sign. Coeur d'Alene could tie-dye the trees on Tubbs Hill. For all his enthusiasm, Blake is a bit sketchy on details. He's not really sure how long his venture will take. ("I'd like to have it done before I die.") He's likewise vague about the cost. (Less than $10 million, but more than $3 million.)

Nor does he know if he needs some kind of a licensing agreement from the company that makes lava lamps. And who knows if a leviathan lava lamp will even work outdoors? The heat given off by such a behemoth contraption just might melt any tourist who strayed too close.

Then there's the whole issue of selling this thing to the 1,000-plus Soap Lakians. "Lava lamps didn't appeal to me in the '60s," says Soap Lake Mayor Ken Lee, who adds that he's more concerned about removing junked cars and getting the broken streets fixed. I don't know, Brent. By the sound of this guy, you may do better moving your lava down the road a few miles to Ephrata and letting Soap Lake lump it.

Doug Clark can be reached at 509-459-5432 or by e-mail at dougc@spokesman.com

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[> Re: Landmark Lava Lamp Bubbly Idea -- Neanderthal, 14:59:53 11/17/02 Sun

>Source: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/
>
>Landmark lava lamp bubbly idea
>September 29, 2002
>by Doug Clark - Staff writer
>dougc@spokesman.com
>
>Forgive me for believing that those Big Scale days of
>the Inland Northwest were long gone. But I thought
>we'd never again see the kind of bold and brawny
>construction projects that gave us such gargantuan
>wonders as Grand Coulee Dam, Hanford or the Silver
>Valley Hazardous Waste Superfund Clean-Up Site. Then
>along came Brent Blake with a King Kong-sized dream.
>
>Blake, 60, wants to build the world's largest lava
>lamp and stick it smack in the middle of downtown Soap
>Lake, Wash. He's talking about a 60-foot version of
>one of those glowing, bubbling blob bottles that
>became a trademark of the Psychedelic Sixties. Then,
>like hippies to incense, gawkers will be drawn by the
>busload to this Grant County burg, 120 miles west of
>Spokane.
>
>This is basically the same kind of tourist enhancement
>plan Leavenworth embraced when all the residents there
>one day decided to turn into Bavarians. "Doug, it is
>an important moment for this project and the future of
>Soap Lake," Blake wrote to me in a recent letter. "We
>need to gain ownership of the concept by spreading the
>word of what we are going to do here to help
>revitalize this depressed community, and you sound
>like the right person to assist us in this effort."
>
>Oh, yes, Brent, consider me your personal lava lamp
>liaison to the masses. This idea is so exquisitely
>frivolous, so delightfully dubious, so monumentally
>preposterous, so ...
>
>How can I say no?
>
>After receiving Blake's initial e-mail, I dialed the
>number he listed to see if this was some kind of
>Internet prank. Blake answered his cell phone. He told
>me he was in a car heading to a Seattle baseball game.
>Ah, a Mariners fan. No stranger to lost causes. Blake
>told me that his background is in architecture and
>design. His connection to Soap Lake, he says, is a
>downtown two story building (the old police station)
>that he bought not long ago.
>
>According to Blake, this lava lamp scheme popped out
>of his brain during a late-night discussion with a
>buddy about civic improvement. Soap Lake has the
>potential of being a funky, artsy community, he says.
>"That's why this lamp seems like an appropriate idea."
>(Check out his cool Web site at www.giantlavalamp.com )
>
>Soap Lake could use a jump-start.
>
>It was once a booming spa town because the high
>mineral content of its lake water was considered
>curative. These days, Soap Lake is trying to hang on.
>But now that Seattle's Space Needle has been sold to
>that lottery winner named Steve and moved to Moses
>Lake, a giant lava lamp in Soap Lake would be Grant
>County's second-biggest tourist attraction. This could
>spark a flurry of copycat boondock innovation.
>Reardan, for example, might want to counter Soap Lake
>by erecting the world's largest peace sign. Coeur
>d'Alene could tie-dye the trees on Tubbs Hill. For all
>his enthusiasm, Blake is a bit sketchy on details.
>He's not really sure how long his venture will take.
>("I'd like to have it done before I die.") He's
>likewise vague about the cost. (Less than $10 million,
>but more than $3 million.)
>
>Nor does he know if he needs some kind of a licensing
>agreement from the company that makes lava lamps. And
>who knows if a leviathan lava lamp will even work
>outdoors? The heat given off by such a behemoth
>contraption just might melt any tourist who strayed
>too close.
>
>Then there's the whole issue of selling this thing to
>the 1,000-plus Soap Lakians. "Lava lamps didn't appeal
>to me in the '60s," says Soap Lake Mayor Ken Lee, who
>adds that he's more concerned about removing junked
>cars and getting the broken streets fixed. I don't
>know, Brent. By the sound of this guy, you may do
>better moving your lava down the road a few miles to
>Ephrata and letting Soap Lake lump it.
>
>Doug Clark can be reached at 509-459-5432 or by e-mail
>at dougc@spokesman.com

Right on Clark! You hit the nail on the head! Preposterous? YAH! Sounds like the croutons who came up with bubble machine credenza are not out of the Lawrence Welk era and more like leftovers from the 60s. They must have be munching on a Mars candy bar and humming to a fractured dulcimer rather than playing with a full deck.

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[> [> Re: Landmark Lava Lamp Bubbly Idea -- OMEGA, 04:58:37 12/04/02 Wed

WHAT ABOUT THAT LATE NIGHT HEAD TRIP A COUPLE OF GUYS TOOK TO THE LAND OF THE BEHEMOTH CONTRAPTION WHERE THE GIANT LAVA LAMP SPOKE TO THEM, SAYING, "TAKE ME BACK WITH YOU TO SOAP LAKE?"

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[> [> [> Re: Landmark Lava Lamp Bubbly Idea -- tart lover, 06:34:28 12/16/02 Mon

A big flash or a sudden head rush is not good enough reason to turn it all into a paramount city project. Could have been just the result of eating a bad batch of tarts.

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GIANT LAVA TEAM SEEKS GAWKIERS TO CURE HEALING WATER'S DECLINE! -- smokia, 00:16:26 11/28/02 Thu

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA TEAM SEEKS GAWKIERS TO CURE HEALING WATER'S DECLINE! -- Red Riter, 06:35:45 11/28/02 Thu

On September 04, 02, Brent Blake, Giant Lava Lamp project manager posts this in cyber-world: "---Soap Lake is a mineral (healing waters)
lake and was once filled with people and spa's.
check out our web site.
WWW.eco-nomic.com/ideas.htm
You won't believe what you see!
Comments welcome. Brent Blake.
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HERE'S RED RITER'S REPLY TO YOUR MISSION: Your right on there buddy. Seeing is believing. This is one for Mission Impossible.

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA TEAM SEEKS GAWKIERS TO CURE HEALING WATER'S DECLINE! -- Marge, 07:38:32 12/14/02 Sat

Trying to raise money by hawking is not new. Calling out in the streets is the old way to advertise. Getting healed by dunking is not new either. Sheer belief is what heals. Nothing is rarely new, merely stolen combinations of the same old same old old. I would waste about five minutes to gawk at the giant lamp while passing thru Soap Lake on my battery operated treadmill.

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THANK YOU FOR DROPPING BY TO READ THE LAVA NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS. -- Godspeed, 07:05:23 12/14/02 Sat

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GIANT LAVA LAMP SOLILOQUY -- No name, 15:52:13 11/20/02 Wed

THE SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP WAS BESMIRCHED AND HAS BEEN SQUELCHED (FOR NOW...AND HOPEFULLY FOREVER) AT THE STATE LEVEL. SL CITY COUNCIL HAD VOTED ON OCTOBER 01,02 TO SUPPORT THE "CONCEPT." A WA-CERT APPLICATION DATED OCTOBER 01, 02 WAS SUBMITTED USEING THE NAME OF APPLICANT AS CITY OF SOAP LAKE. THIS WAS THE BETAKING! A MUCH LESS THAN BESEEM ACTION ON PART OF ACTUAL SUBMITTOR, AN ACTION THAT REMAINED SUB-SURFACE AND SUBMERGED SINCE OCTOBER 1, 02.A CITIZEN'S AWARENESS GROUP BROUGHT IT TO LIGHT RECENTLY. ONE COULD ONLY IMAGINE THE CITY'S CHAGRIN AND DISMAY AT DISCOVERING THE UNBEKNOWNS. THE GIANT LAVA LAMP PROPOSAL WAS VOLUNTARILY TAINTED; PLAINLY NOT ELIGIBLE.

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[> THANK YOU FOR DROPPING BY TO READ THE LAVA NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS -- Godspeed, 07:01:24 12/14/02 Sat

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WELCOME TO MACRO LAVA LAMP BASE. Kick of your shoes SHOES, shed your MACKINTOSH & ENJOY!! -- No name, 08:42:42 12/07/02 Sat

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[> Re: WELCOME TO MACRO LAVA LAMP BASE. Kick of your shoes SHOES, shed your MACKINTOSH & ENJOY!! -- Osa Mayor, 08:59:43 12/09/02 Mon

The GIANT LAVA LAMP entr'acte continues. The taxpayers are waiting to see this play itself out. Not all are seeking to sup from this cup. All those seeking to drink from this giant mirage, seem to have their own hidden agendas going and maybe those should move to the big cities instead of trying to turn a mole hill into a mountain. Even less than a budding genius, can "bloom where your planted." This phrase does not mean to become a blooming idiot. Be here now.

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[> Re: WELCOME TO MACRO LAVA LAMP BASE. Kick of your shoes SHOES, shed your MACKINTOSH & ENJOY!! -- No name, 17:27:16 12/13/02 Fri

Shrouded in ambiguity and cloaked in deep secrecy, grant seekers come and go, continue to suddenly, and sometimes unexpectedly, drop their decisions upon the public and City, and expect obedient approval, without question, without debate, without opposition. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and woman, when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help.--Judge Learned Hand, speech delivered on I Am An American Day--New York City--May 21, 1944." The right to oppose and question is the American Way.

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IS GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP ANOTHER FLASH IN THE PAN? -- [soap opera or fairy tale?], 19:16:21 12/02/02 Mon

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[> Re: IS GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP ANOTHER FLASH IN THE PAN? -- Pukka, 23:46:48 12/12/02 Thu

The captious, fallacious, illogical and unreasonable idea was never more than a flash in the pan. To call it a fairy tale would be an insult to the wonderous world created for children by Hans Christian Anderson, fairy tales end, leaving you with the moral to the story. With fanfare and fain, the giant lava team entered the Soap Lake picture. The giant project is becoming faint-hearted. Sure as my name is Pukka it will fade into the ozone from which it came. Ask me again and i'll tell you the same.

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BCC INTERVIEW ABOUT GIANT LAVA LAMP -- No name, 14:06:03 12/07/02 Sat

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[> Re: BCC INTERVIEW ABOUT GIANT LAVA LAMP -- in extremis, 19:38:48 12/09/02 Mon

British Broadcasting Reporter & Producer JANET WILLIAMS, co-opt the mike at Soap Lake with the intent to give some free airtime to what she calls "Soap Lake's lava experiance." Could that be a transendental state like Maharishi Fever. Why the convuluted lava concoction is to be aired to 140 million listeners worldwide according to Willians, beats me all to hell. Is their some unspoken of connection here? Williams states, "once it airs, even more people on the planet will have heard via BBC of Soap Lake's lava experiance." Lava experiance? Naw..she wouldn't tell 140 million listeners about the Soap Lake lava experiance, the Lava Team's WA-CERT lava application that was EXTREMELY flawed & resinded, the lava experiance that everyone wants to brush off. Maybe Williams is talking about THAT lava experiance that noone talks about. Like the wonderful and powerful hundreth monkey story about combined energy, the 141 radio listener just arrived.

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WACKY $25 MILLION SAGA -- Gloria, 14:31:07 12/06/02 Fri

Though the proponents "claim" the project was started in May of 2002, the first any Soap Lake taxpayers, residents and people heard anything about it was in the Ephrata newspaper in late September, early October.

As far as receiving support of civic leaders of the City of Soap Lake, the City Council provided no information whatever to its citizens, held no public hearing and the whole process was a private lobbying effort behind closed doors between the proponents and selected members of the city council.

The economic, social and political problems in the Soap Lake area are self-generated and those applying for this funding have not done their homework. Were they to do the homework, they would soon discover that the structure they are proposing would require numerous permits, environment studies, and face major roadblocks, which they conveniently fail to address for obvious reasons.

The Lava Lamp involves high heat, high energy, and safety hazards to life and property. They are talking about disruption to wildlife, airwave disruptions due to electromagnetic frequencies that may be emitted and great potential hazards to aviation. The proposed Giant Lava Lamp requires compliance with EPA / DOE, FAA, and other state and federal agencies regulations concerned for the environment, wildlife, property, and public safety.

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$25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- --foolish, 20:22:33 12/02/02 Mon

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- fatkidontheblock, 07:00:36 12/03/02 Tue

CUT THE FAT! Right about now the headlines are about parents who are suing the Golden Arches for selling fast food to their obese kids. It has vastly overshadowed the humerous publicity the Giant Lava Lamp took in the shorts. The towering giant lava lamp, doomed to become a FAT HOG, a glutton that will feed off the public trough and consume wattage every time it waves, has a slim chance to live. Fat cat. Ronnie McDonald seems to be able to stay trim and I wonder how trim the kid's parents are. If the kid is eating on a beer budget and the parent retains little control over their kid's eating habits, what's to be expected. If the kids had a champagne budget and their parents had instilled early a natural healthy eating style, they might not have to load up at McDonalds. Besides, the fast food industry never tied their kids up and stuffed the junk food down their throat. Moral to the story is.. if you can't rule those small one year olds that love Happy Meals..don't get Sue-Happy. Course the days of lashing kid's and washing their mouth out with soap has cooled off since the child protecton advocates surfaced. Kids call for help. Do you know what parents of deaf children do when their kids say bad words? They wash their hands.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- No name, 07:13:47 12/03/02 Tue

I like the quote by Lynn Lavner: "There are a number of mechanical devices which
increase sexual arousal, particularly in women. Among these is the Mercedes-Benz
500SL."

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- DoubtingThomas, 14:00:25 12/03/02 Tue

Skeptics and lava lamp savants say a 60ft giant lava lamp will not function. The basic parts to a functionable lava lamp are made of of three, the base that holds a 40 watt frosted appliance light bulb that is inside a reflection cone, a glass container that contains 2 different fluids that do not mix and a cap at the top that hides the water line and an inner cap. The bulb heats the fluid and starts the motion, the sinking, swimming, bubbling and churning action of elements that do not mix. Imitation or knockoff lava lamps won't do it on a 60 ft. scale. Haggerty Enterprises hold the rights to Lava, Giant and other names as well as the copyrights and uses a secret formula in their globe. Instead of looking to bubbles, enterprisers should look at the backdrop you have at Soap Lake. Get on the MAIN ST. program first introduced into the Soap Lake Comp. Plan years back. Why not do that job first and dress up the store fronts ect ect ect ect etc etc etc etc etc....then go for the show created by Blakes's flash or storm...whatever. It is not a good brain-child to start with. Act one comes before act two. Putting a satin ribbon on a wornout sow does not make it more than a wornout sow with a satin ribbon. First step is to spruce up things that count and cleanup what you got, even paint is a swell start for those on a beer budget. Grant County is a depressed area but get those volunteers busy. The City did down at the information Center; looking good. Forget the $25 MIllION DOLLAR GLOB, it's champagne taste. Get on the affordables and wait till after the basic backdrop is spiffed up and more work is done downtown to attract the needed buyers who will bring revenue into the coffer of the City. Most of Soap Lake residents and City are not living on a champagne budget. Realistically, foolish and expensive ideas should be nixed unless a feasibility study will guarantee the Lava Lamp will absolutly fix the the Soap Lake economy. Never see that happen or the Giant Lava Lamp up and running.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- ~a foggy one, 14:15:56 12/03/02 Tue

My question is, who is the guarantor? Who guarentees this work? Where does replacement parts come from? What is in the secret formula besides wax, water and coloring? Without these bases the project is guano and a $25 Million Dollar bad investment offering no insured return. It will not take $850,000.00 to get that answered. I expect most of the $850,000.00 requested goes toward salaries. Whose may I ask? Making a job out of it or what? So many whats equal no assurance.

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS!! CHAMPAGNE TASTE ON A BEER BUDGET. -- Banyon, 02:57:37 12/04/02 Wed

This whole project has been secret. I recall a Soap Lake business person that was told about this Lava Goo way back in May. Dr Goo showed the party his website and added "maybe I shouldn't be telling you this." Secret? Only for a hand-picked select few to know about? Well kids the biggest secret yet to come is what the Haggerty Enterprises SECRET LAVA LAMP FORMULA. Don't tell anyone!

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~ALL EYES HAVE NOT SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP.~ -- No name, 04:04:19 12/02/02 Mon

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[> Re: ~ALL EYES HAVE NOT SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP.~ -- Gorden, 04:57:38 12/02/02 Mon

John Glassco,(Canadian,1909-1981) poet, translator, pornagrapher and fictive Avatar who donned the mantle to create stylish essays either anonymously or psuedonymously wrote "Gentlemans Farm." John's concluding stanza of the aforesaid works speaks of "grandiose design." John was a much criticized man, a Montreal boy who grew up hating his wealthy domineering father. John vehemently had to vent that steam into his manly creative works. Re the Grandiose Giant Lava Lamp, my thinking has always adhered to the line--"If it looks too good to be true, it probably is."

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[> Re: ~ALL EYES HAVE NOT SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP.~ -- No name, 05:21:44 12/02/02 Mon

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS 1952 - Index
1952-06-01; Soap Lake, WA
REPORTED on June l, 1952; Soap Lake, Washington. 3+ p.m. Witness: Ray Lottman. Three glimmering objects flew straight and level for 10 minutes." Maybe those space ships were operating on another time zone, like in the FUTURE, coming to Soap Lake to see the GRANDIOSE GIANT LAVA'S MOTION and maybe even wanting to steal the secret formula with their xray vision to get ownership of the concept. Like, MARS has ownership of those wonderful candy bars.

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[> [> Re: ~ALL EYES HAVE NOT SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP.~ -- Bradley, 05:52:02 12/02/02 Mon

You mean to tell me that on June 1. 1952 Soap Lake was invaded by outer space tourists. If those space ships were flying "straight and level" they could create a 911. Imagine the 60ft giant lava lamp's skywalk getting hit while tourists are up there, a direct hit would send flying glass, hot ooze and ow everywhere. Perish the thought.

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[> [> Re: ~ALL EYES HAVE NOT SEEN THE GLORY OF THE COMING OF THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP.~ -- Owen33, 06:23:06 12/02/02 Mon

They saw simliar space crafts in Moses Lake in 1952.
May 1, 1952; Moses Lake, Washington. 5:32 a.m. Witnesses: Two Atomic Energy Commission employees, Eggan and Shipley. One silver object without wings flew straight and level for 1.5 minutes. HEH MAN, Moses Lake just got its lottery scheme going, groundbreaking ceremony for the potential site of the SPACE NEEDLE. The area may need to adjust their building codes to avoid disasters, alienating tall tourists attractions.

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~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 15:56:24 11/30/02 Sat

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 18:05:11 11/30/02 Sat

Another unsung saga. The 1972 Watergate break-in unseated the President of the United States. Deep Throat,the informant, remains anonymous and an unsung American Hero.. to this very day, known only as the informant who helped unseat the U.S President.

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 18:48:29 11/30/02 Sat

The Giant Lava Lamp Team's application to the State requesting funding for their $25 Million Dollar project was unseated. The application process was found not to be legit. City was not the applicant as application stated. The Lava Lamp Saga is just another of the many good reasons for citizens to monitor your local government to protect the public trust. Buyer beware!

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[> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 19:22:43 11/30/02 Sat

re: giantlavalamp.com. where it is implied that the "maintenance of the (LAVA) structure will be provided by a joint collaboration of the City of Soap Lake and a private foundation called SoLa LaLa,".. appears to be an outright falsehood. No such agreement existed or exists between City and the private project.

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- Chicago2, 22:40:25 11/30/02 Sat

Seattle Times business reporter's saga makes referance to Brent Blake who is the "giant lava lamp" team manager of the motion lamp project, stating Brent has suggested Soap Lake be the future home of the world's largest lava lamp. Article showed a rendering by Braden Blake of the proposed $3 million, 60-foot attraction. Why persist in calling it a LAVA Lamp, which it is not. A saga noone seems to get.

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[> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 22:58:29 11/30/02 Sat

Grant County Journal ran a spread on this too showing a conceptualized rendition of what a 60-foot lava lamp could look like in downtown Soap Lake. Photo illustration by Braden Blake.

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[> [> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 07:27:58 12/01/02 Sun

>On October 14, 02, Grant County Journal ran a spread on this too Lava saga showing Blake's conceptualized configuration of what a 60-foot lava lamp looks like. That article revealed Brent avoids telling how much the thing will cost. "Were pursueing a (dollar) number. We don't want to scare people off before we get going," Blake said in a recent interview. $25 Million Dollars is not hard to forget.

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[> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 23:02:33 11/30/02 Sat

WHERE DID THE 3 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT FIGURE COME FROM? TRY--$25 MILLION!!!!

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[> [> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 07:37:38 12/01/02 Sun

>WHERE DID THE 3 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT FIGURE COME
>FROM? TRY--$25 MILLION!!!! Re: 3 Million vs 25 Million. I would imagine that minor reduction (not to scare people off) came from the same place,lava lamp project talk. In other such extrinsic project talk, as if it was rated a plus, they boldly brag about all the publicity IT brought to Soap Lake. On a scale of one to ten, how is that? Even Gary Condit would agree to take a minus ten for his share. More fantasy vs reality.

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[> [> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 17:26:28 12/01/02 Sun

WHERE DID THE 3 MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT FIGURE COME FROM? Spokesman Review reported on Brent Blake being vague about the cost. (Less than $10 million, but more than $3 million.) Better run that one by us again. $25 MILLION is what your applications reads. News reporters get a mixed version. The general public stands by with mouth gaping. The play-let goes on changing it's colors.

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[> [> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- Lava4now, 03:22:36 12/02/02 Mon

News media still useing 3 million cost factor as late as Monday, November 18, 2002? Blake's Wa-Cert application was dated Oct.01,02, cost says $25 Million. (re Washington Notebook. re Coumbian staff writer, Margaret Ellis. re ..LAVA LAMP TOUTED AS TOURIST DRAW), Monday, November 18, 2002. Article mentions the $3 million, 60-foot lava lamp that is expected to fill the empty storefronts in town.. according to "authorities". Gheez...what AUTHORITIES? And then came the shop-talk by George Sharp, CTED, whose byline is no less disturbing. Sharp indicated, No one else has one of these LAVA icons. George Sharp is tourism-development manager for the state of washington. Sharp spells out his own feelings. .... "one of the keys in marketing is to be there first". HELLO GEORGE! GIANT LAVA? CHICAGO? TRADEMARK? REGISTERED? Whose on first George?
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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 23:22:17 11/30/02 Sat

On October 19, 2002, Linda Ashton of the Associated Press writes, "Blake said he has no cost estimate, but he'd like to have it built in three years." Informs us also of the fact that
Blake is working with the state Office of Community, Trade and Economic Development and that George Sharp from the state office is helping Blake explore the feasibility of and financing options for the project. HOW VERY ODD. NO PROJECT COST ESTIMATE? THE CTED application dated OCTOBER 1, 02 says COST of project is $25 MILLION DOLLARS. Must be a time warp somewhere.

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- No name, 01:13:03 12/01/02 Sun

"The pen is mightier than the sword."--Benjamin Franklin.

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- Donald, 09:37:40 12/01/02 Sun

A Good Read.

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[> [> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- Hank, 13:56:47 12/01/02 Sun

RE: A Good Read. Don, this lava project does not gell. I see the correlation between lava and our planet earth. Under the earth's surface lies two layers that do not mix. Oil and water do not mix either. Is that any big reason to make the whole planet's history your tiny town's theme. What the H... has the natural formation of the earth got to do with spending or wanting to spend $25 million for a prehistoric bit of psuedo symbolism that won't drawing tourists anymore than chicken feed. Like traveling to Soap Lake to see a chicken play the piano by ear.

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[> Re: ~UNSUNG SAGA OF THE $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT LAVA LAMP~ -- Dwight, 10:36:18 12/01/02 Sun

Eli Sanders, Boston Globe correspondent, had some spicy remarks in his article dated 12/1/02. He relayed that Brent Blake has some worries. For starters...like finding someone who can make a 60-foot-tall glass lava lamp and even if he does it won't be bullet proof. Vandelism is another worry along with whether the lava lamp's formula would bubble on such a grand scale? (note: Haggerty who owns the exclusive rights to LAVA LAMP holds the "secret formula.") Blake himself is in question as to if the heating elements will accompodate the 60ft proposed to be the BIGGEST LAVA ever? Where I got the best chuckle was in the remark Blake made about his own project. He claimed the idea was kind of like the yo-yo. You can find the Boston Globe's 12/1/2002 lava lamp article and website on the internet.

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FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 07:56:54 11/30/02 Sat

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 08:13:23 11/30/02 Sat

Few other world-wide web comments: Sep-12-02.
"If your doing an observitory deck at the base of the globe I'm gona smell my skin burnig my lamp is only 10 inches, and it burnes me when I touch it it would realy burn on a big lamp!"
RE: 60 foot lava lamp

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 08:20:11 11/30/02 Sat

MORE world-wide comments: Sep-13-02.
"I'm a man of many thoughts and little words. I think that this is the wrong stunt for the right reason! Why ...... due to rising power cost the use to power up a 60 ft. lava lamp with no history to the location would exceed the influx of visitors & make this a failure! Secondly without cost support from Haggerty for the material you will find that you will have a cost excessive replacement of the materials as they degrade over the years (3 years?), all because you don't have a local area history of where "lava marketing was conceived"! The poplicity will be great for a year or two but when you have to spend the funds to replace the lava & once the poplicity has faded, the pros will out weigh the cons!! I truly believe the loss of income will exceed the gain in revenue!
Regards."

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 08:32:12 11/30/02 Sat

Other world-wide tidbit concern over SL's hot desert Sun,posted on Sep-19-02:
"Don't forget to figure in damage from direct sunlight."

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 08:37:16 11/30/02 Sat

WWW Post of Sep-09-02.
Sorry Brent & John
I like the idea of a humongous Lava Lamp glowing in the night sky BUT I don''t see how this could ever be possible and be functional like the way we know lava lamps work..
I will be the first one to apologize "when and if" you ever make it and have it functioning; as for now... I feel this is a "humongo" publicity stunt and just trying pull a fast one on us..
Nope not me....." No-Way

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 09:01:09 11/30/02 Sat

Source of info: http://www.archibot.com/dcforum_oozinggoo/DCForumID1/438.html
RE:"60 foot lava lamp"--Brent Blake,the project's team manager @ brentblake@hotmail.com on Sept.04 speaks out seeking WWW coverage for his "Giant Lava Lamp" ..which is (possibly unrightly) a model of "Lava" vs "Motion Lamp" Blake said, "We are building a 60 foot lava lamp as a tourist attraction for our small town of Soap Lake, WA.USA We believe that it will attract thousands of people young and old and help to revitalize our community. Soap Lake is a mineral (healing waters) lake and was once filled with people and spa's. check out our web site. WWW.eco-nomic.com/ideas.htm You won't believe what you see! Comments welcome. Brent Blake." "RE: 60 foot lava lamp"

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 10:15:14 11/30/02 Sat

Sept,02, Roadside America features "Great attractions on the drawing board, seeking sponsors, praying for a miracle..." Comment there brought up another issue.. "delightful thermal effect of normal-size Lava Lamps may be difficult too achieve on this scale." (re: 60ft Giant Lava Lamp)

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- No name, 10:33:09 11/30/02 Sat

Source:eco-nomic.com. Reply: Yes..indeed, Haggerty Enterprises makes the ONLY and the most beautiful LAVA Lamps. The lava lamp is beautiful as you said Becky and I can see why you can hardly wait to see it in person!� The same part part that you said concerns you Becky, concerns us all,the 60ft mounted searchlight, visible for 50 miles, shining vertically. I can not answer your question re if this is 50 miles up, down, or sideways?�Further you said... "Do I think it might attract alien space ships,"� Is Soap Lake ready for an invasion by alien space ship creatures?� Oh, it is so exciting! Good luck!
I think the idea of using the name LAVA LAMP and wanting to engineer such came from outer space so.....what more could Soap Lake ask for than another invasion of rights.

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[> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- Pat, 19:02:36 11/30/02 Sat

Coumbia Basin Herald is to be commended for their hilarious portrayal of the Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp project. The wonderful satire in the article written on October 25, 02 can be read at the CBH website; in cache. Hats off to those who are not easily swayed or absorbed by sheer folly and absurd promo.

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[> [> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- forum, 22:10:08 11/30/02 Sat

CORRECTION re Columbia Basin Herald . Please refer to Tri-City Herald Article at: www.tri-cityherald.com/opinion/2002/1025-2.html -
Tri-City Herald is to be commended for their
>hilarious portrayal of the Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp
>project. The wonderful satire in the article written
>on October 25, 02 can be read at their website listed above; in
>cache. Hats off to those who are not easily swayed or
>absorbed by sheer folly and absurd promo.

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[> [> Re: FAT OF THE LAVA LAMP, HOT OFF THE GRIDDLE! -- Kathy, 09:35:39 12/01/02 Sun

re-hilarious portrayal of the Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp. I see the correction here. Your right it was Tri-City Herald and not CBH that ran the story that had the stuff about the bugs swarming the Soap Lake Giant Lava Lamp. I liked the way the reporter tied together the puns and made the connection. Lava lamp, tie-dye and Nehru.

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THIS YEAR'S "MOTION" PIXEL AWARD GOES TO SL LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 07:55:20 11/30/02 Sat

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[> Re: THIS YEAR'S "MOTION" PIXEL AWARD GOES TO SL LAVA LAMP. -- CyberScout, 08:01:12 11/30/02 Sat

"RE: 60 foot lava lamp"
RE: WWW Cyber Talk re project. Poster,Lava4ever on Oct-09-02, 10:31 PM (PST) suggested:
"Don't make a giant 60ft midnight series lamp! Who says you have to use a Haggerty's design any how!? I think that you should come up with your own design if Haggerty doesn't chip in! After all if it's 60ft tall & has goo flowing in it, it's a lava lamp!
The cheapest design would be to make it a three sided pyramid as all you need is flat pieces. Bullet proof or Waterworld (Shamu) glass would do!? There's no way your community could pay to have a globe made that is 35 to 40ft. Hope you get this of the ground!"�

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[> Re: THIS YEAR'S "MOTION" PIXEL AWARD GOES TO SL LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 08:24:44 11/30/02 Sat

OR DOES IT? Does the LAVA(r) configuration appear to belong to Haggerty Enterprises?

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[> [> Re: THIS YEAR'S "MOTION" PIXEL AWARD GOES TO SL LAVA LAMP. -- No name, 15:19:43 11/30/02 Sat

Maybe the LAVA LAMP IMAGE superimposed it's self, just got plucked up by a Chicago whirl-wind and landed conveniently smack in the center of Main St. in downtown Soap Lake. Anyhow and anyway,it is no stranger to the World-Wide Web!!!!

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[> [> Re: THIS YEAR'S "MOTION" PIXEL AWARD GOES TO SL LAVA LAMP. -- Chicago2, 15:28:22 11/30/02 Sat

Maybe the LAVA LAMP IMAGE superimposed it's self, just got plucked up by a Chicago whirl-wind and landed conveniently smack in the center of Main St. in downtown Soap Lake. Anyhow and anyway,it is no stranger to the Lava World or World-Wide Web!!!!

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A STORY THAT DOES NOT WANT TO BE TOLD. -- OldJohnsonRag-"don't let your left foot drag.".", 14:00:45 11/30/02 Sat

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WITH TONGUE-IN-CHEEK COMMENTS ON GIANT LAVA LAMP. MIDDLE OF STREET? -- No name, 15:29:42 11/27/02 Wed

Source: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/
>
>Landmark lava lamp bubbly idea
>September 29, 2002
>by Doug Clark - Staff writer
>dougc@spokesman.com
>
>"Forgive me for believing that those Big Scale days of
>the Inland Northwest were long gone. But I thought
>we'd never again see the kind of bold and brawny
>construction projects that gave us such gargantuan
>wonders as Grand Coulee Dam, Hanford or the Silver
>Valley Hazardous Waste Superfund Clean-Up Site. Then
>along came Brent Blake with a King Kong-sized dream.
>
>Blake, 60, wants to build the world's largest lava
>lamp and stick it smack in the middle of downtown Soap
>Lake, Wash. He's talking about a 60-foot version of
>one of those glowing, bubbling blob bottles that
>became a trademark of the Psychedelic Sixties......"

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[> Re: Smack in Middle -- Nick, 23:47:37 11/27/02 Wed

YEH saw the picture of the lamp on the Lava Leader's Web. They stuck it smack in the middle of downtown Soap Lake as you said, right in the intersection of Canna and Main St. That just shows to go you about poor planning. What a big giant traffic hazard that would be.

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[> [> Re: Smack in Middle -- RogerOverAndOut, 23:57:44 11/27/02 Wed

You got my vote Nick, the 60ft icon looks like a missle or space capsule waiting to be launched by a Mac truck.

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[> [> [> Re: Smack in Middle -- Barry, 13:54:25 11/30/02 Sat

One website I saw on the Internet saw the Saoap Lake Giant Lava Lamp in another different light. (excuse that double-headed pun) The term they used went something like this.. want to "squat" the LAVA lamp in middle of the street. Squat or Smack it reeks of incomparable incompatiblity.

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ACCORDING TO ROADSIDE AMERICA, SEPTEMBER 01, 02. -- No name, 11:04:39 11/30/02 Sat

Brent assures Roadside America.. that the "project is real and in funding and feasability studies." [Sept. 1, 2002]

REPLY: "IN" FUNDING AND FEASABILITY STUDIES, SEPTEMBER 1, 2002. FUNDING AND FEASABILITY STUDY APPLICATION PHASE 2, Wa-Cert Application is dated OCTOBER 1, 02.

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[> Re: ACCORDING TO ROADSIDE AMERICA, SEPTEMBER 01, 02. -- No name, 13:10:05 11/30/02 Sat

[OCT.01 2002] Soap Lake Giant Lava Team assures under Project Type 9-Tourism Development application they filed with CTED under name of SL CITY,that they have "raised to date $50,000.00." City of Soap Lake had no public information available regarding their specified "unsecured" monies being recieved. For all practical purposes and to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest, the Lava Team has an obligation to the public. NOW. Provide the public with who "recieved" the $50,000.00 "recieved to date." That will point to who these backers are ie the bankroller's and pledges. WE, the people, have a RIGHT to KNOW!

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Aim to patent? World's largest LAVA(r) "like" lamp? -- No name, 08:52:59 11/29/02 Fri

Could this private roadside attraction outshine Haggerty Enterprises who holds the reg. rights to LAVA and the world's record? Could this LAVA look-a-like, as the project manager's WA. State CTED funding application calls it, add another patent credit to John Glassco's many others @ patent office? John Glassco,Ephrata, Washington should not be confused with the most famous Canadian writer, John Glassco. Ephrata's John Glassco did hail from Canada and holds roots there. Could this be the aim? Maybe obtain a patent under name of City of Soap Lake (unlikely so) or Giant Lava Team, Brent Blake,MGR, (or and) John Glassco, CONSULTANT & DESIGNER. (more likely so)

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[> Re: Aim to patent? World's largest LAVA(r) "like" lamp? -- No name, 17:18:58 11/29/02 Fri

I am not a glob lover but by the looks of things the $850,000.00 requested for the project's phase 2, "complete enginering and feasability studies", would give the Giant Lava Lamp Team a free ride to the Patent Pending process.

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[> [> Re: Aim to patent? World's largest LAVA(r) "like" lamp? -- Patty, 17:29:45 11/29/02 Fri

I recall reading about that concept in the Spokesman Review. The giant lava lamp project manager was quoted as saying,"WE NEED TO GAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE CONCEPT." Sounds like a patent statement to me.

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AMERICANS, FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS! -- America, 09:39:01 11/28/02 Thu

Had enough of your right to speech and choice being supressed by those seekers of State/Federal Grants; the freeloaders? We are in our first battle. Although we are very new with supporters just beginning to help, we've fired the first shot in the battle to reclaim our freedom and the abuse of our money, and this first shot is no pop-gun.
THE GREAT NEWS is, We are here to declare our constitutional RIGHTS shall not be violated by those who oppose free speech!

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LUDICROUS BELCHER GETS WAXED, RUNS INTO BURR. -- No name, 05:18:59 11/27/02 Wed

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[> Re: LUDICROUS BELCHER GETS WAXED, RUNS INTO BURR. -- RALPH, 07:40:59 11/28/02 Thu

BRENT BLAKE'S ridiculous reply to all those cyber lovers who doubt his project and dared to as much as question it was this, "after all a very large lava Lamp not a warp speed devise for the space program." RE: The Teams 60 foot lava lamp In a rebuking letter written by team to the editor of the Journal and signed by John Glassco,it sounded
like questioning is one of their taboos. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS GRANTED...only if you are a YAH-YAH. Those that are not YAH-HOOS enough to go along with the publicity stunt are to be shot down.

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GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP FACES ABORTION ISSUES -- No name, 15:54:15 11/21/02 Thu

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[> 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- John, 17:14:12 11/21/02 Thu

How is that possible? What kind of power source does this thing use?

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[> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- paula, 23:58:17 11/21/02 Thu

COSTS $850,000.00 to get that baffle answered, according to the Giant Lava Team and their WA-CERT application. The speil of that splurge was to come after the hairbrain idea. $850,000.00 they requested is phase 2,feasibility study of the $25 million dollar project and a sheer waste. Hear say..that the axing of their application was not a light blow.

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[> [> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- No name, 15:41:34 11/26/02 Tue

Goes to show, $850,000.00 doesn't buy you anything any more.

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[> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- NIGHTSKY, 12:13:56 11/22/02 Fri

>How is that possible? What kind of power source does
>this thing use? THIS MONKEY-SHINE MIGHT BE RUN BY ALPHA WAVES AND HOT AIR. MUSE THIS MORASS. The chi-chi creators of this pesky polluting plot might be compared to those who too willing sacrifice the endangered; eating SPOTTED OWL HAMBURGER HELPER while out to lunch.

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[> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- Nightingale (not Florence), 14:56:23 11/22/02 Fri

>How is that possible? What kind of power source does
>this thing use? No answer to that.THE SOURCE of light power is not the concern as much as misdirected light which is a major energy and money waster, according to the International Dark Sky Association's Web site. "The group estimates that nationwide, it costs as much as $100 million a year."
"Street lights often have such a harsh glare that they cause a safety hazard, especially with elderly drivers who have cataracts or poor vision," Jacobson said.
"People are becoming more aware of the issue these days," Jacobson said. "There's a bill before the Massachusetts legislature that would require that any street lights paid for with public funds to be full cut-off. It's definitely an issue that a lot of people would like to see addressed."
Those seeking more information may visit the Web site www.darksky.org

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[> [> [> $100 MILLION TO OPERATE -- Doug, 22:06:05 11/22/02 Fri

Just what Soap Lake needs. They don't have any money to operate the street lights but they will have a $100 million to operate the 50 mile beacon. How sweet. Soap Lake really should tackle this project. Blake and Glassco promised the good Mayor to save Soap Lake from becoming a Ghost town. Sounds like this project will help Soap Lake in becoming a Ghost town faster then without the 50 mile beacon. How much will the admission be? $100 bucks? That is sure to attract millions of tourists to fork over $100 to go up the Lamp for a little love.

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[> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- No name, 15:08:33 11/22/02 Fri

>How is that possible? What kind of power source does
>this thing use? Not got a clue what has been designed to assist flooding the night sky with light pollution. {Source of info: @ LiteLynx} "It is a little known phenomenon to most of the general public. � Light Pollution occurs when an over abundance of light is spilled into the sky and beyond property lines.
Results of Light Pollution effect everyone in many negative ways. � Generation of electricity that could otherwise be conserved introduces more harmful greenhouse gases and other noxious chemicals into the atmosphere from the powerplants that consume fossil fuels. � These particles scatter ground based light emitted from fixtures and reflected upward from the ground and illuminate the night sky, thus diminishing our clear view of the Universe. Good lighting is shielded, low wattage, and points downward where the illumination is needed."

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[> [> Re: 50 MILE RADIUS BEACON -- Bob, 20:44:25 11/22/02 Fri

>How is that possible? What kind of power source does
>this thing use? Information from the project booster's web pages, www.giantlavalamp.com, indicate power source is electrical. KPFF engineering in Seattle, WA. are the consulting engineers,looming lava patent issues are no problem, the 60 ft. high searchlight feature sheds a horrendous 50 mile radius vertical beam, Haggerty Enterprises wants to work with project mgr Brent Blake who can be reached west side at 206-972-8587. From a Missourian's point of view, after reading the flawed WA-Cert giant lava lamp application, "show me" fits this backstaged backwater project that has backfired.

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[> Re: GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP FACES ABORTION ISSUES -- No name, 00:19:32 11/22/02 Fri

Another Team, Haggerty Enterprises, created the largest motion lamp on the face of the planet to commemorate their own 35 year anniversary. It stands over four feet tall and holds 10 gallons of secret formula.
�LAVA�, LAVA LITE�, the motion lamp configuration and the base and globe of the motion lamp are registered trademarks of Haggerty Enterprises, Inc., Chicago, Illinois, in the U.S.A. and in other countries, and all images and the LAVA� brand philosophy are not to be used without its express permission. All rights reserved. �2000 Haggerty Enterprises.

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[> [> Re: GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP FACES ABORTION ISSUES -- RED RITER, 07:02:31 11/28/02 Thu

RE: SL LAVA BOYS GET NEW WEB SITE
www.giantlavalamp.com
This post there was of interest.RE: 60 foot lava lamp. Oct-09-02. "Don't make a giant 60ft midnight series lamp! Who says you have to use a Haggerty's design any how!? I think that you should come up with your own design if Haggerty doesn't chip in! After all if it's 60ft tall & has goo flowing in it, it's a lava lamp!
The cheapest design would be to make it a three sided pyramid as all you need is flat pieces. Bullet proof or Waterworld (Shamu) glass would do!? There's no way your community could pay to have a globe made that is 35 to 40ft. Hope you get this of the ground!"
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RED RITER SEZ: TOO BIG TO FLY! TOO COSTLY TO MAINTAIN! TO BILLOWY TO FUND. THE LAVA LAVA-DO PROJECT MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE FOR THE FINTSTONES, NOT FOR SOAP LAKE, IT COMES ACROSS LIKE A BIN-AURAL BILLET-DOUX!

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[> Re: GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP FACES ABORTION ISSUES -- Wade Hillis, 15:30:33 11/22/02 Fri

Abortion? That project was STILL-BORN. Even Dr. Kovorkian wouldn't have touched it.

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[> Re: SL GIANT LAVA LAMP LOVE FEAST CANCELLED BY SHARP, CTED SCOPER. -- No name, 15:39:51 11/26/02 Tue

Due to circumstances beyond their control? Anything held at the Masquers Theather is out of control.

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[> [> Re: SL GIANT LAVA LAMP LOVE FEAST CANCELLED BY SHARP, CTED SCOPER. -- Prima Facie, 05:58:15 11/27/02 Wed

>Due to circumstances beyond their control? Anything
>held at the Masquers Theather is out of control.
From my high observation tower here at Blue Sky Apple Pie, ANYWHERE, USA, I lend a postscipt. With radar, I scope it from a slightly different angle of the dangle. I agree that birds of the same feather flock together and at times loose formation but whether that is beyond their control I do not know. Under their control seems appropriate. John Glassco, one of the giant lava lamp stage-hands is the past presdent of the theatre group you mentioned. Another drama under the roof! Where does the SL Conservancy fit in? I am sure the same Glassco was in on the funded project that is to study Mar's organisms in Soap Lake. Money, Money, Money.

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[> Re: SL GIANT LAVA LAMP LOVE FEAST CANCELLED BY SHARP, CTED SCOPER. -- Grey, 06:12:03 11/27/02 Wed

>NOTICE: The Soap Lake Giant Lava Love meeting to be
>held at the MASQUERS, scheduled for SATURDAY, NOVEMBER
>23, 02, has been called off due to circumstances
>beyond their control. :-)
Least at the State level there was no attendance. They were the agency that suggested it be called off. Who knows, maybe a executive meeting convened. The Giant Lava Lamp is over-budgeted for and the brute bulges with holes.

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR--CTED SCOPER STOPS THE CLOCK ON SL PROJECT. -- JANIS, 07:41:00 11/22/02 Fri

>This really takes the cake! The GOO-BALLS had a lot of
>GALL.

De Nada! Brings tears to my eyes. You mean us peace loving counter creatures have to bow to those anti-abortionists. The giant lava lamp brings back wonderful memories. The memorable layed-back nights sitting in those funky 60s drive-ins eating one carmel sundae after another while downing a couple of chocolate skakes with four big straws topped of by a brick-load of those yummy dark brown Oreo Cookies that we downed with a large Green River on top of six Cherry Cokes gotta be preserved. You mean it is like...busted flat. That's a fine howdy.

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR--CTED SCOPER STOPS THE CLOCK ON SL PROJECT. -- Arizona, 17:28:09 11/23/02 Sat

>This really takes the cake! The GOO-BALLS had a lot of
>GALL. I surmise that usurping a City's power could take gall but I rather think of it as mindlessness. A municipality hung up in a clouded hazy project has no other legal option but to extricate in the best interest of the Soap Lake community.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP IS A LAVISH EXPENDITURE!!!! -- Barbra, 15:17:00 11/22/02 Fri

Source: A growing Cancer by Doug Patton. "It is not axiomatic that government must grow, but it will continue to do so - at all levels - unless and until the electorate awakens to the reality that every new program costs us money, and every new law deprives us of a little more freedom."

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[> [> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP IS A LAVISH EXPENDITURE!!!! -- Neil, 14:50:18 11/23/02 Sat

Lavish? Yes. A Science fiction writer might call it extraneous,extravagant,extraterritorial, extrapolated, hypothetical and based on a mirage erupting from some kind of hysteria. I agree taxpayers need to awaken to the reality that every new program does cost them money.

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLAR GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP IS A LAVISH EXPENDITURE!!!! -- Dana, 06:59:19 11/26/02 Tue

Barbra....what about cutting costs and creative fiance, would that change your mind? I propose they cut the vertical beacon and replace it with a giant musical box or 50s nickelodeun. This will save the cost of a beacon, reduce the light bill and when the tourists climb to the top they can put $50 bucks in a slot and dance to looney tunes. Is that far out Barbra or what? I just got that magnificent brain flash after eating soured yogurt and some home-canned dill pickles I put up in the 50s. To be perfectly honest Barbra, the jar's lid looked rather bulgy.

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GIANT LAVA LAMP TEAM GETS THE GONG! WA-CERT APPLICATION TURNED BACK. -- No name, 14:52:54 11/25/02 Mon

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[> Re: GIANT LAVA LAMP TEAM GETS THE GONG! WA-CERT APPLICATION TURNED BACK. -- Jahara, 04:12:47 11/26/02 Tue

I appreciate this site for making available more information. I came here to learn more about what has been so vague and supressed. The public needs to weigh matters. Everyone thought this was a City public works project and I see now that it is not. There was not enough information given out. Enjoyed!!!!!

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[> Re: CTED reveals "THERE IS NOT CURRENTLY A ROLE FOR THE STATE TO PLAY IN THIS GIANT." -- Omega, 05:50:40 11/23/02 Sat

>source cited: Deputy Director, Community Trade and
>Economic Development Group.
THANKS TO WENDY HOLDEN! At least OLYMPIA saw the light. No tunnel vision there. Wearing blinders is not for a stable team of lead horses.

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$25 MILLION DOLLARS IS A LOT OF GREEN-BACKS TO FLOUNDER!!! -- Forum Commentator, 16:16:39 11/22/02 Fri

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[> Re: $25 MILLION DOLLARS IS A LOT OF GREEN-BACKS TO FLOUNDER!!! -- B. Barker, 05:41:39 11/23/02 Sat

At Soap Lake and abroad the Giant Lava Lamp project mgr. has lauded this bygone LAVA Lamp Project by calling it "ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT." All over cyber space their are comments being printed that make light of that call. Read this Folly, just one of the many floating out there waiting to be plucked. "ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? I NEVER HEARD PHIL CONDIT LIST GIANT LAVA LAMPS, SNOW GLOBES OR DISCO BALLS AS CONSIDERATIONS FOR WHERE TO RELOCATE THE BOEING COMPANY HEADQUARTERS. MAYBE THE LOCAL CONVENIENCE STORE WILL DO A BRISK BUSINESS SELLING TO ALL THE TOURISTS WITH THE MUNCHIES."

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SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP TEAM MGR. ASKS FOR $25 MILLION DOLLARS FROM BIG BROTHER. -- No name, 17:08:16 11/22/02 Fri

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[> $25 MILLION DOLLARS FROM BIG BROTHER? -- No name, 20:43:12 11/22/02 Fri

How does one get $25 million fronm big brother. Surely, you are not serious. There is no big brother. Isn't big brother "us"? How does the $850,000 get into the $25 million picture. There are a growing number of sites with talk about what sounds like a real scandal. What papers have published the skinny on this scandal?

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HEAR YE----HEAR YE--READ ALL ABOUT IT FIRST. -- Forum Scribe, 07:02:11 11/21/02 Thu

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[> Re: HEAR YE----HEAR YE--READ ALL ABOUT IT FIRST. -- No name, 04:55:45 11/22/02 Fri

SOURCE: 10/04/02-COLUMBIA BASIN HERALD. "Brent Blake, an architect and design consultant who grew up in Moses Lake, though he now primarily works on the west side of the state, conceived the idea nearly half a year ago with the help of Soap Lake resident John Glassco. "We just kind of explored that idea and went with it," Blake said." ($25 Million Dollar Comment)..Been in the woodwork for nearly a year and a half...EH? JUMPING JIMMNY CHRISTMAS, 2003 IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER!!�APRIL 2000 EH? GEE DIDN'T HAGGERTY WHO HOLDS MANY MANY RIGHTS TO LAVA BUILT THEIR GIANT THAT YEAR? IT GOT A LOT OF PUBLICITY. YA KNOW?

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[> Re: HEAR YE----HEAR YE--READ ALL ABOUT IT FIRST. -- Dire-Straits, 16:02:13 11/22/02 Fri

The sentimental Lava Lamp tripe that the grant seeking parasites spread through our befuddled populace and newspapers with such revolting bathos painted a very one-sided picture. If we as taxpayers and citizens are to understood the actual truth of matters we must know the real truth from fiction and not allow publicity seeking hounds to mightily try to keep it from us. It is dire that the public has correct information. Not this old everybody loves the giant lava lamp stuff! Learning to not "hate" people that differ is a sign of real maturity and a blessed virtue. Come now let us reason together and EVEN differ.

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Lawrence Welk said it best--" STOP THE BUBBLE MACHINE". -- forum with the mostest, 14:59:05 11/21/02 Thu

Let their be no light pollution over the starry skies in Grant County. For it is written in the Book of Conservation, use only what you need. The Giant Lava Lamp Team proposed a Beacon on top of the Lamp that would have a 50 mile radius that is known to pollute the hemispheric planet Earth.

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OUR FORUM CREDITS.. GIANT LAVA LAMP TEAM. -- No name, 11:37:16 11/21/02 Thu

OUR MOST HUMBLE CREDITS MUST GO TO BRENT BLAKE, PROJECT MANAGER OF THE GIANT SOAP LAKE LAVA LAMP AND RE WA-CERT APPLICATION. MANY MANY THANKS FOR THE FOLLOWING SUGGESTION YOU SO GRACIOUSLY SHARED AND POSTED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ON YOUR GIANT LAVA WEBSITE.

(OUOTE) If you would like your own soapbox (website and forum) to stand on and shout your dissent then contact the webmaster of this website or any other webhost/design firm and put your own website........(UNQUOTE)

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[> Re: WELCOME CYBER TRAVELERS! THERE AIN'T NO PLACE LIKE THIS PLACE SO THIS MUST BE THE PLACE! -- Hola, 06:52:14 11/21/02 Thu

>YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ WHAT $ 25 MILLION DOLLARS CAN
>GET YOU INTO.....ENJOY!

Cojinete.

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REDUCE WASTE: RECYCLABLE TAX DOLLARS -- No name, 02:57:06 11/21/02 Thu

Get involved in the recycling spirit right at home and in your community Each year millions and Millions of dollars are being sought for foolish studies and projects to be funded by OUR grant monies. Ignoramous schemes that should be creamated day one. A problem which could easily be solved by people who will stand up and demand the recyling of OUR TAX MONIES cease to fund the unappropriate.
Go one step further and adopt it as your COMMUNITY'S POLICY.

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[> Re: What is a Giant Lava Lamp? -- No name, 02:11:42 11/21/02 Thu

>What is it it all about? Does anybody know?
FOR YOUR QUESTION, FIND ANSWER HERE: Make Your Own Lava Lamp!
Make Your Own Lava Lamp! Art meets science, or vice versa by Holly Hartman Send this Page to a Friend! Did you ever hear that "oil and water don't mix"? Here's groovy proof. You will need: vegetable oil or baby oil water food coloring glitter....

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BRENT BLAKE -- No name, 18:09:56 11/20/02 Wed

Who is Brent Blake? Is he the Mayor?

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[> Re: BRENT BLAKE -- Wayne, 18:32:50 11/20/02 Wed

>Who is Brent Blake? Is he the Mayor?
According to the recent Seattle Times article, Mr Blake is said to be a ponytailed Harley rider who hails from Gig Harbor. A place of residence there would not make him Acting Mayor of Soap Lake. Besides, the real Mayor Of Soap Lake does not have a ponytail or a Harley. NEITHER does he groove out on lava lamps. Soap Lake Mayor is Kenneth Lee, a long-time resident not a transient.

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[> SOAP LAKE MAYOR BRENT BLAKE? -- No name, 19:37:10 11/20/02 Wed

If Brent Blake can get international front page news coverage and has the City of Soap Lake behind his idea, perhaps he is laying the foundation for becoming the next Mayor of Soap Lake and attract 25 million vistors from around the world. http://www.ohwy.com/wa/s/soaplake.htm

You say this Blake is from Gig Harbor. Where is Gig Harbor that he is compelled to seek fame and fortune in Soap Lake?
http://www.gigharbor.com/

Is he registered to vote in Gig Harbor, or Soap Lake?

If not Soap Lake, what qualifies him to be telling the people of Soap Lake that Soap Lake needs savings?

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CORRECTION POLICY -- No name, 17:56:58 11/20/02 Wed

BE ADVISED OF THIS CORRECTION REGARDING THE SOAP LAKE GIANT LAVA LAMP. THE SOAP LAKE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO SUPPORT THE "CONCEPT" AT THEIR REGULAR SESSION ON WEDNESDAY OCTOBER 02, NOT ON OCTOBER 01, 02 AS WAS REPORTED BELOW; TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR. HOWEVER, BRENT BLAKE'S WA-CERT APPLICATION TO THE BUSINESS AND TOURISM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE IS DATED TUESDAY OCTOBER 01,02. ALSO IN THE SUM OF $ 25 MILLION DOLLARS NOT $3 MILLION AS NEW'S MEDIA REPORTS re SEATTLE TIMES. A MYRIAD FIGURE ENCAPSULED BY CONFLICTING DATES; APPLICATION IS DATED A DAY BEFORE COUNCIL VOTE. IMAGINE THAT!

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Giant Lava Lamp Application -- No name, 22:24:47 11/16/02 Sat

Source:
http://www.oted.wa.gov/ed/wacert/using_the_system/View_Project.asp?CERTID=WA23006&RevisionNum=0

Project Title: Giant Lava Lamp
WA-CERT ID: WA23006
Application Date: 10/1/2002
Project Type: 9 - Tourism Development
Months to Complete: 24

Project Description: The project is a unique theme structure or tourist attraction to draw people to Soap Lake and assist in the revitalization and redevelopment of the community. The design is the World's largest Lava Lamp "like" structure fully functional as existing lava lamps only at a scale of between 40-60 feet in height and 18-24 feet in diameter. Brent Blake has acted as project manager and John glassco as consultant and co-developer. The project was started in May of 2002 and has received support of civic leaders of the City and County. The Scope of the project: 1.Gain acceptance of the project within the community, County and State. 2. Complete engineering and feasability studies. 3. Determine costs and budgets. 4. Prepare architectural and engineering documentation. 5. Bid and build structure. Project is seeking phase 2 of this description.

GMA Compliant?: Yes
Quik Site Candidate?: No
Small Communities
Pilot Candidate?: No
Certified Communities
Candidate?: No
Current Need: Feasibility Study/Engineering Report
Pre Permitted?: No
Capital Facilities
Plan?: No
Comp Plan?: No
Business Plan?: No
Benefit Population: 6,000
Phased Project?: Yes
Phase Number: 2
Phase Count: 5
Phase Years: 3
County/Tribe: Grant County
County Contact: Terry Brewer
County Priority: 0
Applicant: City of Soap Lake
Applicant Contact: Jean Waller
Applicant Phone: (509)246-1211
Applicant Email: jhein@grantedc.com
Contact:
Notes:
Total Project Cost: $25,000,000.00
Raised to Date: $50,000.00
Requested: $850,000.00
Dollars: $0
Program:
Source:
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State District:
Federal District:
Jobs Created in
1-3 Years: 10
Jobs Created in
3-5 Years: 50
Jobs Retained: 100

Outcomes: Traffic accessments, accounting of City revenue, real estate sales, consumption of utilities and other resources, Business and Occupation taxes, permits and fees, etc.

Economic Diversification Strategy: The project satisfies, in a singlular structure, the extreme need to create economic re-development and re-vitalization of Soap Lake, through the attraction of tourists. It is a project which will be the catalyst for other business investment and redevelopment efforts by others who will benefit from the influx of tourist dollars.

Planning Efforts: Project complies with regional planning components of the eco-tourism issues outlined in the Ephrata-Soap Lake Economic Plan, the Grant County Comprehensive Plan, and the Cultural Corridor Planning in progress.

Engineering Reports and Feasibility Studies: No engineering or feasibility studies have been prepared. This is the next step necessary for development of the project.

Secured Funds: No

Other Efforts: We prepared design documentation including photo/illustrations of the project, developed a web site at www.giantlavalamp.com and gained local, national and international publicity for the project, through all media sources including radio,television, newspapers and the internet.

Local Infrastructure Improvements: The project will draw tourist dollars, and other business investment into the community. The added revenue from tourism and B&O taxes and other fees will provide the resources for improvement of local infrastructure and it capacity to meet the needs of the anticipated growth and revitalization of the community.

Compliance with EPA/DOE: N/A

Other Factors: No